Re: Squeeze and mobile broadband

2010-05-31 Thread papul 

On 05/30/2010 11:28 PM, emigrant wrote:

hi,
this is my first question here,
i want to know whether, mobile broad band works out of the box in
squeeze?
i use huawei ce0862 dongle to connect.

it didn't work for me in lenny (in fact i didn't find a way to initiate
a mobile broadband connection at the first place).

have things changed from then??

would i be able to connect easily to the internet?

thank you very much.




I guess thats very easy on gnome because it has an app that manages 
mobile broadband. Also i have seen one of my friends doing that on KDE 
thru an app called Kppp.



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Re: Squeeze and mobile broadband...

2010-05-30 Thread lrhorer 
> thank you very much Irhorer,

That's lrhorer, if you please, not irhorer.

> i appreciate you reply.
> can you please tell me whether is it possible for me to apt-get before
> an internet connection is established? or is it enough i have the cd1
> only?

Yes, and probably not.  If all the files you need are on CDs (or DVDs)
you have in hand, then the files can be retrieved from them, butt he
odds any particular file are on CD #1 are pretty low.  Note CDs and
DVDs offer no means of updates, including critical security updates, so
an internet connection is definitely preferred, but they will do in a
pinch, in particular as a means to obtain an internet connection in the
first place.

> if not please, how can i download that in another machine which have
> internet connection already.

You can download the tarball from the source, or you can download
the .deb file from the Debian repositories, or you can download the
entire .iso set from the Debian installation repositories and burn them
to disk.  Honestly, it's probably a lot easier just to go somewhere
where you can get a wired or WiFi internet connection for the target PC
and use apt-get to obtain the necessary files.


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Re: Squeeze and mobile broadband...

2010-05-30 Thread emigrant 
On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 21:01 -0500, lrhorer wrote:

> 
> Yep, it's a Huawei E220.  If you will look on the link I sent you, you
> will see it there.  It's a "flip-flop" device, also called "Zero-CD". 
> When first inserted into a USB port, it is a drive device, similar to a
> USB "thumbdrive".  It contains the software windows needs to load in
> order to access the device.  Note the description:
> 
> Interface Descriptor:
>   bLength 9
>   bDescriptorType 4
>   bInterfaceNumber3
>   bAlternateSetting   0
>   bNumEndpoints   2
>   bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage
>   bInterfaceSubClass  6 SCSI
>   bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk (Zip)
> 
> The dongle looks like a SCSI device to the OS.  It needs to have its
> mode switched so it looks and acts like a modem (or in general whatever
> the secondary device might be), rather than a USB drive.  That's the
> purpose of usb_modeswitch.  After the switch takes place, it will look
> and act like a usb dial-up modem as far as Linux is concerned. (Some
> dongles also have drive devices built in to read and write memory
> sticks as well as their modem function.) Usb-modeswitch and
> usb-modeswitch-data are both part of the Debian "Squeeze" distro,
> although it doesn't look as if they are loaded automatically.  You will
> need to use apt-get (or aptitude, or synaptic, ...) to install them. 
> Once usb_modeswitch is run, the output of lsusb will show something
> like:
> 
> Bus 006 Device 002: ID 1f28:0020 Cal-Comp
> Device Descriptor:
>   bLength18
>   bDescriptorType 1
>   bcdUSB   1.10
>   bDeviceClass2 Communications
>   bDeviceSubClass 0
>   bDeviceProtocol 0
>   bMaxPacketSize064
>   idVendor   0x1f28 Cal-Comp
>   idProduct  0x0020
>   bcdDevice0.00
>   iManufacturer   1 Cal-comp E&CC Limited
>   iProduct2 Cal-comp CDMA USB Modem A600
>   iSerial 0
>   bNumConfigurations  1
>   Configuration Descriptor:
> bLength 9
> bDescriptorType 2
> wTotalLength  189
> bNumInterfaces  7
> bConfigurationValue 1
> iConfiguration  0
> bmAttributes 0xa0
>   (Bus Powered)
>   Remote Wakeup
> MaxPower  500mA
> Interface Descriptor:
>   bLength 9
>   bDescriptorType 4
>   bInterfaceNumber0
>   bAlternateSetting   0
>   bNumEndpoints   1
>   bInterfaceClass 2 Communications
>   bInterfaceSubClass  2 Abstract (modem)
>   bInterfaceProtocol  1 AT-commands (v.25ter)
>   iInterface  3 Data Interface
> 
> How automated the use of the dongle can be under "Squeeze" right out 
> of 
> the box, I couldn't tell you.  I'm running a Cricket A600 modem
> under "Squeeze", but I'm using the box as a broadband router, so
> everything from the dialing scripts on up are custom.
> 
> 

thank you very much Irhorer,
i appreciate you reply.
can you please tell me whether is it possible for me to apt-get before
an internet connection is established? or is it enough i have the cd1
only?

if not please, how can i download that in another machine which have
internet connection already.


thank you very much for your time.


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Re: Squeeze and mobile broadband...

2010-05-30 Thread lrhorer 
emigrant wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 19:57 -0500, lrhorer wrote:
>> emigrant wrote:
>> 
>> > On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 19:04 -0500, lrhorer wrote:
>> >> Peter Beck wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 23:27 +0530, arshad wrote:
>> >> >> i want to know whether, mobile broad band works out of the box
>> >> >> in squeeze? have things changed from then??
>> >> > 
>> >> > I am using a Qualcomm MSM6275 UMTS PCMCIA card, in Lenny i had
>> >> > to use the tools from betavine, now in squeeze it's working out
>> >> > of the box with networkmanager 0.8
>> >> > 
>> >> >> would i be able to connect easily to the internet?
>> >> > 
>> >> > absolutely easy. for me at least.
>> >> 
>> >> The question is, "Does he have a PCMCIA card or a
>> >> dedicated USB modem,
>> >> or is it one of the multi-function USB dongles?"  If the latter,
>> >> he's going to need usb_modeswitch.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> > 
>> > hi,
>> > thanks all for your replies.
>> > what i can say of my modem is,
>> > its like a pen drive in shape and is only used as a modem.
>> > and it work out of the box in ubuntu and pclos (those are the two
>> > distros iv checked so far)
>> 
>> That doesn't really say anything.  With the modem plugged in, what is
>> the result of
>> 
>> `lsusb -v`
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> lsusb -v
> 
> Bus 003 Device 004: ID 12d1:1003 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E220
> HSDPA Modem / E270 HSDPA/HSUPA Modem
> Device Descriptor:
>   bLength18
>   bDescriptorType 1
>   bcdUSB   2.00
>   bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level)
>   bDeviceSubClass 0
>   bDeviceProtocol 0
>   bMaxPacketSize064
>   idVendor   0x12d1 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
>   idProduct  0x1003 E220 HSDPA Modem / E270 HSDPA/HSUPA Modem
>   bcdDevice0.00
>   iManufacturer   3
>   iProduct2
>   iSerial 0
>   bNumConfigurations  1



> Interface Descriptor:
>   bLength 9
>   bDescriptorType 4
>   bInterfaceNumber2
>   bAlternateSetting   0
>   bNumEndpoints   2
>   bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage
>   bInterfaceSubClass  6 SCSI
>   bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk (Zip)



Yep, it's a Huawei E220.  If you will look on the link I sent you, you
will see it there.  It's a "flip-flop" device, also called "Zero-CD". 
When first inserted into a USB port, it is a drive device, similar to a
USB "thumbdrive".  It contains the software windows needs to load in
order to access the device.  Note the description:

Interface Descriptor:
  bLength 9
  bDescriptorType 4
  bInterfaceNumber3
  bAlternateSetting   0
  bNumEndpoints   2
  bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage
  bInterfaceSubClass  6 SCSI
  bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk (Zip)

The dongle looks like a SCSI device to the OS.  It needs to have its
mode switched so it looks and acts like a modem (or in general whatever
the secondary device might be), rather than a USB drive.  That's the
purpose of usb_modeswitch.  After the switch takes place, it will look
and act like a usb dial-up modem as far as Linux is concerned. (Some
dongles also have drive devices built in to read and write memory
sticks as well as their modem function.) Usb-modeswitch and
usb-modeswitch-data are both part of the Debian "Squeeze" distro,
although it doesn't look as if they are loaded automatically.  You will
need to use apt-get (or aptitude, or synaptic, ...) to install them. 
Once usb_modeswitch is run, the output of lsusb will show something
like:

Bus 006 Device 002: ID 1f28:0020 Cal-Comp
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   1.10
  bDeviceClass2 Communications
  bDeviceSubClass 0
  bDeviceProtocol 0
  bMaxPacketSize064
  idVendor   0x1f28 Cal-Comp
  idProduct  0x0020
  bcdDevice0.00
  iManufacturer   1 Cal-comp E&CC Limited
  iProduct2 Cal-comp CDMA USB Modem A600
  iSerial 0
  bNumConfigurations  1
  Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength  189
bNumInterfaces  7
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration  0
bmAttributes 0xa0
  (Bus Powered)
  Remote Wakeup
MaxPower  500mA
Interface Descriptor:
  bLength 9
  bDescriptorType 4
  bInterfaceNumber0
  bAlternateSetting   0
  bNumEndpoints   1
  bInterfaceClass 2 Communications
  bInterfaceSubClass  2 Abstract (modem)
  bInterfaceProtocol  1 AT-commands (v.25ter)
  iInterface  3 Data Interface

How automated the use of the dongle can be under "Squeeze"

Re: Squeeze and mobile broadband...

2010-05-30 Thread emigrant 
On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 19:57 -0500, lrhorer wrote:
> emigrant wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 19:04 -0500, lrhorer wrote:
> >> Peter Beck wrote:
> >> 
> >> > On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 23:27 +0530, arshad wrote:
> >> >> i want to know whether, mobile broad band works out of the box in
> >> >> squeeze? have things changed from then??
> >> > 
> >> > I am using a Qualcomm MSM6275 UMTS PCMCIA card, in Lenny i had to
> >> > use the tools from betavine, now in squeeze it's working out of the
> >> > box with networkmanager 0.8
> >> > 
> >> >> would i be able to connect easily to the internet?
> >> > 
> >> > absolutely easy. for me at least.
> >> 
> >> The question is, "Does he have a PCMCIA card or a dedicated
> >> USB modem,
> >> or is it one of the multi-function USB dongles?"  If the latter, he's
> >> going to need usb_modeswitch.
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > hi,
> > thanks all for your replies.
> > what i can say of my modem is,
> > its like a pen drive in shape and is only used as a modem.
> > and it work out of the box in ubuntu and pclos (those are the two
> > distros iv checked so far)
> 
> That doesn't really say anything.  With the modem plugged in, what is
> the result of
> 
> `lsusb -v`
> 
> 



lsusb -v

Bus 003 Device 004: ID 12d1:1003 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E220
HSDPA Modem / E270 HSDPA/HSUPA Modem
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   2.00
  bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level)
  bDeviceSubClass 0 
  bDeviceProtocol 0 
  bMaxPacketSize064
  idVendor   0x12d1 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
  idProduct  0x1003 E220 HSDPA Modem / E270 HSDPA/HSUPA Modem
  bcdDevice0.00
  iManufacturer   3 
  iProduct2 
  iSerial 0 
  bNumConfigurations  1
  Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength  108
bNumInterfaces  4
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration  1 
bmAttributes 0xe0
  Self Powered
  Remote Wakeup
MaxPower  500mA
Interface Descriptor:
  bLength 9
  bDescriptorType 4
  bInterfaceNumber0
  bAlternateSetting   0
  bNumEndpoints   3
  bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class
  bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass
  bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol
  iInterface  0 
  Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81  EP 1 IN
bmAttributes3
  Transfer TypeInterrupt
  Synch Type   None
  Usage Type   Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
bInterval   5
  Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x82  EP 2 IN
bmAttributes2
  Transfer TypeBulk
  Synch Type   None
  Usage Type   Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
bInterval  32
  Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x01  EP 1 OUT
bmAttributes2
  Transfer TypeBulk
  Synch Type   None
  Usage Type   Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
bInterval  32
Interface Descriptor:
  bLength 9
  bDescriptorType 4
  bInterfaceNumber1
  bAlternateSetting   0
  bNumEndpoints   2
  bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class
  bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass
  bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol
  iInterface  0 
  Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x83  EP 3 IN
bmAttributes2
  Transfer TypeBulk
  Synch Type   None
  Usage Type   Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
bInterval  32
  Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x02  EP 2 OUT
bmAttributes2
  Transfer TypeBulk
  Synch Type   None
  Usage Type   Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
bInterval  32
Interface Descriptor:
  bLength 9
  bDescriptorType 4
  bInterfaceNumber2
  bAlternateSetting   0
  bNumEndpoints   2

Re: Squeeze and mobile broadband...

2010-05-30 Thread lrhorer 
emigrant wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 19:04 -0500, lrhorer wrote:
>> Peter Beck wrote:
>> 
>> > On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 23:27 +0530, arshad wrote:
>> >> i want to know whether, mobile broad band works out of the box in
>> >> squeeze? have things changed from then??
>> > 
>> > I am using a Qualcomm MSM6275 UMTS PCMCIA card, in Lenny i had to
>> > use the tools from betavine, now in squeeze it's working out of the
>> > box with networkmanager 0.8
>> > 
>> >> would i be able to connect easily to the internet?
>> > 
>> > absolutely easy. for me at least.
>> 
>> The question is, "Does he have a PCMCIA card or a dedicated
>> USB modem,
>> or is it one of the multi-function USB dongles?"  If the latter, he's
>> going to need usb_modeswitch.
>> 
>> 
> 
> hi,
> thanks all for your replies.
> what i can say of my modem is,
> its like a pen drive in shape and is only used as a modem.
> and it work out of the box in ubuntu and pclos (those are the two
> distros iv checked so far)

That doesn't really say anything.  With the modem plugged in, what is
the result of

`lsusb -v`


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Re: Squeeze and mobile broadband...

2010-05-30 Thread emigrant 
On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 19:04 -0500, lrhorer wrote:
> Peter Beck wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 23:27 +0530, arshad wrote:
> >> i want to know whether, mobile broad band works out of the box in
> >> squeeze? have things changed from then??
> > 
> > I am using a Qualcomm MSM6275 UMTS PCMCIA card, in Lenny i had to use
> > the tools from betavine, now in squeeze it's working out of the box
> > with networkmanager 0.8
> > 
> >> would i be able to connect easily to the internet?
> > 
> > absolutely easy. for me at least.
> 
> The question is, "Does he have a PCMCIA card or a dedicated USB modem,
> or is it one of the multi-function USB dongles?"  If the latter, he's
> going to need usb_modeswitch.
> 
> 

hi,
thanks all for your replies.
what i can say of my modem is,
its like a pen drive in shape and is only used as a modem. 
and it work out of the box in ubuntu and pclos (those are the two
distros iv checked so far)


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Re: Squeeze and mobile broadband...

2010-05-30 Thread lrhorer 
Peter Beck wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 23:27 +0530, arshad wrote:
>> i want to know whether, mobile broad band works out of the box in
>> squeeze? have things changed from then??
> 
> I am using a Qualcomm MSM6275 UMTS PCMCIA card, in Lenny i had to use
> the tools from betavine, now in squeeze it's working out of the box
> with networkmanager 0.8
> 
>> would i be able to connect easily to the internet?
> 
> absolutely easy. for me at least.

The question is, "Does he have a PCMCIA card or a dedicated USB modem,
or is it one of the multi-function USB dongles?"  If the latter, he's
going to need usb_modeswitch.


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Re: Squeeze and mobile broadband...

2010-05-30 Thread Peter Beck 
On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 23:27 +0530, arshad wrote:
> i want to know whether, mobile broad band works out of the box in
> squeeze? have things changed from then??

I am using a Qualcomm MSM6275 UMTS PCMCIA card, in Lenny i had to use
the tools from betavine, now in squeeze it's working out of the box with
networkmanager 0.8

> would i be able to connect easily to the internet?

absolutely easy. for me at least.

Regards
Peter


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