Re: Starting Over

1998-08-12 Thread tko
Marcus Johnson writes:
[snip]
  On this,( my first ever installation of Linux) I installed stable
 Hamm using LSL's version of the official 2.0 release. Everything went
 swimmingly until I got to right before dselect/dpkg where it asks you
 to pick which installation type you want.  I picked complete
 developer.  Cool.  Then some instructions to the effect that since I
 was using a preselected set I didn't need to individually dselect
 items to install.  Unfortunately I didn't write those instructions
 down -- big mistake.  I hit return.  Oops. I looked for a go back
 one screen type button and there was none.  For basic user interface
 being able to escape back to the previous screen is really
 important. It automatically lauches dselect and I'm lost.  I pick
 one of the choices off the main menu that sounds like it would
 complete the installation.  It asked where I was going to install
 from.  I picked CD-ROM off of a list and then it asked me something
 about which block device it was.  Of course I had no idea.  It said
 I could hit ^c to interrupt.  I tried that.  It didn't work.  I'd
 call that a serious flaw.  I think it was because dselect was started
 from a script Being cornered and not knowing what else to do I
 rebooted (my m$ dos background showing). 

Sounds like you need a basic Linux howto. Block devices are hdL# for IDE
drives (where L is a letter and # is the partition on that drive) Primary IDE
master drive is hda, slave would be hdb. If a device is a CDROM drive, no
partition number is used. Serial devices would be ttyS#. 

Let's assume that you have 1 IDE hard drive with 2 partitions and a CDROM
drive.

So in DOS terms, you get

C: = /dev/hda1 (since windows sits in the first partition)
D: = /dev/hda5 (/dev/hda2 is the extended DOS partition, and logical drives
start at hda5.)
E: = /dev/hdb  (CDROM drives do not use partition tables)

COM1: = /dev/ttyS0
COM2: = /dev/ttyS1
COM3: = /dev/ttyS2

LPT1: = /dev/lp1
LPT2: = /dev/lp2

PS2 port = /dev/psaux

 Okay, I reboot off the floppy and it comes up okay and I login in and
 its okay, except all that cool stuff is not installed and the only
 file I can see in the root directory is something like rev_[can't
 recall rest of name.  I looked at that file in vi, and it looked
 like a configuration/installation type of file, but it has columns
 that give the program/package name and then it says deinstall after
 each one.  Hmm.. go figure.  Well, I'm wondering how do I get back
 into that automatic installation script that was working so well
 until I lost my way.  I wanted to go back to where you select which
 type of installation you want and go from there.  I couldn't figure
 out how to do that.  I started dselect.  I poked around, but I ended
 up back at that same screen where it asked for the block device name.
 I still didn't know the answer.  At least this time the ^c let me
 out.  Yeah!
 
 Well I really wanted to start over at this point.  I just wanted to
 wipe the partition clean and start over. So I rebooted and tried to
 reinitialize my Linux root partition.  That worked.  I mounted it as
 root.  Then I tried to reinstall the kernel and base OS.  Instead of
 starting from a clean state I think there is still remnants on the
 partition because it tries to use a recovery floppy image from off
 of the CD-ROM, but it fails.  It not only fails it takes ages to
 decide to fail very user unfriendly in this respect. So now I'm
 really stuck. I have no idea where to go from here.  The doesn't
 seem to provide any help at this point Help!  Ack!
 
 And oh, was the answer to the block device question /dev/hdc ?
 
 Thank you for patiently helping a newbie,
 
 Marcus

At this point, use MSDOS/WIn95 fdisk to delete the Linux partition. Then start
over with Linux. I'd recommend that you pick up a book on Linux. While it most
likely won't be Debian specific, it will have the basic information on how
Linux does things. Also, make sure that you have a swap partition. A swap
partition is like the virtual memory in Win95/3.1 only Linux allows up to 16
swaps and win95/3.1 only allow 1 swap.


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Re: Starting Over

1998-08-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
Marcus Johnson wrote:

[snip]
 
 Well I really wanted to start over at this point.  I just wanted to
 wipe the partition clean and start over. So I rebooted and tried to
 reinitialize my Linux root partition.  That worked.  I mounted it as
 root.  Then I tried to reinstall the kernel and base OS.  Instead of
 starting from a clean state I think there is still remnants on the
 partition because it tries to use a recovery floppy image from off
 of the CD-ROM, but it fails.  It not only fails it takes ages to
 decide to fail very user unfriendly in this respect. So now I'm
 really stuck. I have no idea where to go from here.  The doesn't
 seem to provide any help at this point Help!  Ack!
 
 And oh, was the answer to the block device question /dev/hdc ?
 
 Thank you for patiently helping a newbie,
 
 Marcus
 


On a more common computer, one with one IDE (EIDE) hard drive and one
ATAPI cdrom drive, the block devices would be hd=/dev/hda,
cdrom=/dev/hdb.
Basically, the 'master' hard drive would be /dev/hda, the secondary
hard drive (if present) would be /dev/hdb, and the cdrom would be last,
i.e. hdb or hdc depending on how many hard drives are on the system.  If
you have a system with multiple IDE controllers then things get even
more complicated.  :-)
As for starting over, try deleting the Linux partitions with DOS fdisk,
then rerunning the install process.  If the install program doesn't see
any Linux partitions when it starts up, then it should start from the
beginning.
I can't help much more, I haven't had the need to install Debian in a
long while.


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