Re: Startup scripts of Debian Lenny don't perform file system check while on battery power

2009-01-15 Thread Richard Hector
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 22:18 -0500, Celejar wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:30:45 +1300
> Richard Hector  wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> > I'd quite like to have an option to opt-out of a fsck anyway; it's
> > really annoying when I'm just turning it on for a few minutes to check
> > my mail before I rush out the door.
> > 
> > Richard
> 
> There was a thread about this several months ago; I don't remember much
> about it, but the initial posts seem to contain a fair amount of useful
> information:
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/06/msg00833.html

Thanks - looks like no 'proper' solutions, but possibly some useful
hacks there.

Richard



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Re: Startup scripts of Debian Lenny don't perform file system check while on battery power

2009-01-15 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:30:45 +1300
Richard Hector  wrote:

...

> I'd quite like to have an option to opt-out of a fsck anyway; it's
> really annoying when I'm just turning it on for a few minutes to check
> my mail before I rush out the door.
> 
> Richard

There was a thread about this several months ago; I don't remember much
about it, but the initial posts seem to contain a fair amount of useful
information:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/06/msg00833.html

Celejar
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Re: Startup scripts of Debian Lenny don't perform file system check while on battery power

2009-01-15 Thread Richard Hector
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 20:58 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 05:20:53AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 01/13/09 04:40, elektra wrote:
> > [snip]
> 
> > >The startup scripts issue a warning of the kind "Warning! Skipping file 
> > >system check because the system is running on battery power" - I don't 
> > >know the exact wording - so the sysadmin has to perform the check manually 
> > >after boot-up to avoid data loss...
> > >
> > 
> > It's been like that for ages, since a full fsck takes a long time, 
> > which would drain the batteries.
> 
> Ouch.  Shouldn't it give a prompt asking what it should do?  i.e. ask to
> skip the fsck and force the mount; or run the fsck anyway (and suggest
> plugging in the computer for the duration).

I'd quite like to have an option to opt-out of a fsck anyway; it's
really annoying when I'm just turning it on for a few minutes to check
my mail before I rush out the door.

Richard



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Re: Startup scripts of Debian Lenny don't perform file system check while on battery power

2009-01-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 05:20:53AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 01/13/09 04:40, elektra wrote:
> [snip]

> >The startup scripts issue a warning of the kind "Warning! Skipping file 
> >system check because the system is running on battery power" - I don't 
> >know the exact wording - so the sysadmin has to perform the check manually 
> >after boot-up to avoid data loss...
> >
> 
> It's been like that for ages, since a full fsck takes a long time, 
> which would drain the batteries.

Ouch.  Shouldn't it give a prompt asking what it should do?  i.e. ask to
skip the fsck and force the mount; or run the fsck anyway (and suggest
plugging in the computer for the duration).

Doug.


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Re: Startup scripts of Debian Lenny don't perform file system check while on battery power

2009-01-13 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/13/09 04:40, elektra wrote:
[snip]


I think the reason is that the startup scripts of the Lenny version I was 
running (installed with the netinstall cd in June or July on a Asus EEE PC 
901 and frequently updated until it broke on Dezember 23rd 2008) omits the 
file system check if it detects a mobile system running on battery.


The startup scripts issue a warning of the kind "Warning! Skipping file system 
check because the system is running on battery power" - I don't know the 
exact wording - so the sysadmin has to perform the check manually after 
boot-up to avoid data loss...




It's been like that for ages, since a full fsck takes a long time, 
which would drain the batteries.


over again without a file system check! Checking a interrupted ext3 mount is 
a matter of seconds so where is the point in skipping the check?  


That's just a load of garbage.  e2fsck can take a *long* time.

[snip]


I like Debian and I'm surely going to use it again somewhere some day. And I'm 
sorry that I didn't write this email earlier - but I was busy and I was 
pissed. I'm running Slackware 12.2 now on the 901. It is not comfortable but 
it doesn't break because of an update and I can trust the people writing the 
startup scripts.


Blah blah blah.

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Re: Startup scripts of Debian Lenny don't perform file system check while on battery power

2009-01-13 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
elektra wrote:
> Hi -
> 
> sorry I can't use reportbug because I am not using Debian anymore. Using the 
> bug-report search engine I couldn't find a report related to my experience. I 
> don't know the name of the Debian package which contains the feature that I 
> assume has messed up the data in my ext3 file system. 
> 
> Here is the story: After an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade my system 
> crashed three times while on battery power (supend to RAM which perfectly 
> worked before wasn't properly waking up anymore) Subsequently my ext3 file 
> system was corrupted in such a way that fsck.ext3 couldn't repair it 
> anymore - system gone, some work lost that I couldn't recover from the disc. 
[snip]
I think posting this to debian-user in quite pointless. Please forward all 
above to the
people that really can judge: Debian sysvinit maintainers
.

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