Re: [Partial Resolution] Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On Wednesday 28 December 2016 02:40:33 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/27/2016 4:42 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 December 2016 22:34:35 Richard Owlett wrote: > >> On 12/27/2016 12:55 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>> On 12/27/2016 8:40 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > [snip] > I can't give any info from the particular box in use at the start > of this thread. It has developed some strange, apparently hardware > related, that prevents me from doing a clean Debian install using > my normal preseed.cfg . It no longer has a functional Debian. > > However I have another box displaying the same symptoms. But I do > not know from how many DVDs of Debian 8.6.0 packages were > installed. > > When running aptitude it reports: > > aptitude 0.6.11 > --- Installed Packages (869) > --- Not Installed Packages (41553) > --- Virtual Packages (5124) > --- Tasks (216) > > > Synaptic shows >> 200 packages with the star in box icon. > > [snip] > >> > >> At least some of my problems were related to not quite failed > >> hardware. > >> My test bed laptop has been replaced by a new (to me ;) laptop. > >> An install using DVD #1 only and my custom preseed went smoothly. > >> There no "star in box icons" showing in Synaptic at this time. > > > > Try adding another of the DVDs into the repository list and see whether > > the stars appear - and let us know! > > The more DVDs scanned -> the more "star in box icons". > > After having scanned the first 6 DVDs, aptitude reports: > > --- New Packages (11291) > --- Installed Packages (870) > --- Not Installed Packages (6892) > --- Virtual Packages (2382) > --- Tasks (214) > > CONCLUSION - "star in box icons" meaningless. False conclusion. Your case is far too special and corner for the software to be designed for it - and in your case it means: not in the original DVD, which could in fact feasibly be useful information. ;-) When one uses the internet, aptitude reports on how many new packages. Lisi
Re: [Partial Resolution] Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On 12/27/2016 4:42 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 27 December 2016 22:34:35 Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/27/2016 12:55 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/27/2016 8:40 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: [snip] I can't give any info from the particular box in use at the start of this thread. It has developed some strange, apparently hardware related, that prevents me from doing a clean Debian install using my normal preseed.cfg . It no longer has a functional Debian. However I have another box displaying the same symptoms. But I do not know from how many DVDs of Debian 8.6.0 packages were installed. When running aptitude it reports: aptitude 0.6.11 --- Installed Packages (869) --- Not Installed Packages (41553) --- Virtual Packages (5124) --- Tasks (216) Synaptic shows >> 200 packages with the star in box icon. [snip] At least some of my problems were related to not quite failed hardware. My test bed laptop has been replaced by a new (to me ;) laptop. An install using DVD #1 only and my custom preseed went smoothly. There no "star in box icons" showing in Synaptic at this time. Try adding another of the DVDs into the repository list and see whether the stars appear - and let us know! The more DVDs scanned -> the more "star in box icons". After having scanned the first 6 DVDs, aptitude reports: --- New Packages (11291) --- Installed Packages (870) --- Not Installed Packages (6892) --- Virtual Packages (2382) --- Tasks (214) CONCLUSION - "star in box icons" meaningless.
Re: [Partial Resolution] Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On Tuesday 27 December 2016 22:34:35 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/27/2016 12:55 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 12/27/2016 8:40 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>[snip] > >> I can't give any info from the particular box in use at the start > >> of this thread. It has developed some strange, apparently hardware > >> related, that prevents me from doing a clean Debian install using > >> my normal preseed.cfg . It no longer has a functional Debian. > >> > >> However I have another box displaying the same symptoms. But I do > >> not know from how many DVDs of Debian 8.6.0 packages were > >> installed. > >> > >> When running aptitude it reports: > >> > >> aptitude 0.6.11 > >> --- Installed Packages (869) > >> --- Not Installed Packages (41553) > >> --- Virtual Packages (5124) > >> --- Tasks (216) > >> > >> > >> Synaptic shows >> 200 packages with the star in box icon. > >> > >> There is one more data-point. Before the first box went into > >> meltdown I had run a install using the first entry on the > >> installer's menu. I showed none of the "star in box" icons. I'm > >> beginning to suspect these aberrant "star in box" icons revolve > >> around my choice of which packages to load with my preseed.cfg > >> file. I've got a full morning's work ahead of me. More later. > > > > I have done an install on the *SECOND* using preseeding and ONLY > > DVD #1. > > It has no apparent problems, particularly no "star in box" icons. > > > > I have done TWO installs on the *FIRST* machine. It *HAS > > developed* a machine related problem. > > > > First Install: > > Use preseeding and DVD #1. > > Install appeared typical. Boot appears to proceed normally until > > when I expect GUI to appear. I always get a blank screen. > > _Sometimes_ booting with "recovery mode" and entering Cntrl-D > > gives me the GUI. > > > > Second Install: > > Use no preseeding with first menu choice. > > When asked for choice of desktop etc. I clear all except > > "standard utilities". > > I get a functional CLI environment. > > I do apt-get install with the same set of packages specified in > > the preseed file. > > At completion typing startx brings up the GUI. > > However booting from the grub menu has the same set of problems > > as the first install. > > > > That laptop's fan had failed. I now suspect component failure had > > occurred before the fan was replaced. I'll keep it for education > > experiments in trouble shooting. Off to get another machine to be > > my test bed for Debian. > > > > Thanks you all. > > At least some of my problems were related to not quite failed > hardware. > My test bed laptop has been replaced by a new (to me ;) laptop. > An install using DVD #1 only and my custom preseed went smoothly. > There no "star in box icons" showing in Synaptic at this time. Try adding another of the DVDs into the repository list and see whether the stars appear - and let us know! Lisi
[Partial Resolution] Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On 12/27/2016 12:55 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/27/2016 8:40 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: [snip] I can't give any info from the particular box in use at the start of this thread. It has developed some strange, apparently hardware related, that prevents me from doing a clean Debian install using my normal preseed.cfg . It no longer has a functional Debian. However I have another box displaying the same symptoms. But I do not know from how many DVDs of Debian 8.6.0 packages were installed. When running aptitude it reports: aptitude 0.6.11 --- Installed Packages (869) --- Not Installed Packages (41553) --- Virtual Packages (5124) --- Tasks (216) Synaptic shows >> 200 packages with the star in box icon. There is one more data-point. Before the first box went into meltdown I had run a install using the first entry on the installer's menu. I showed none of the "star in box" icons. I'm beginning to suspect these aberrant "star in box" icons revolve around my choice of which packages to load with my preseed.cfg file. I've got a full morning's work ahead of me. More later. I have done an install on the *SECOND* using preseeding and ONLY DVD #1. It has no apparent problems, particularly no "star in box" icons. I have done TWO installs on the *FIRST* machine. It *HAS developed* a machine related problem. First Install: Use preseeding and DVD #1. Install appeared typical. Boot appears to proceed normally until when I expect GUI to appear. I always get a blank screen. _Sometimes_ booting with "recovery mode" and entering Cntrl-D gives me the GUI. Second Install: Use no preseeding with first menu choice. When asked for choice of desktop etc. I clear all except "standard utilities". I get a functional CLI environment. I do apt-get install with the same set of packages specified in the preseed file. At completion typing startx brings up the GUI. However booting from the grub menu has the same set of problems as the first install. That laptop's fan had failed. I now suspect component failure had occurred before the fan was replaced. I'll keep it for education experiments in trouble shooting. Off to get another machine to be my test bed for Debian. Thanks you all. At least some of my problems were related to not quite failed hardware. My test bed laptop has been replaced by a new (to me ;) laptop. An install using DVD #1 only and my custom preseed went smoothly. There no "star in box icons" showing in Synaptic at this time.
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On 12/27/2016 8:40 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/26/2016 9:56 PM, David Wright wrote: On Mon 26 Dec 2016 at 14:10:16 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/26/2016 2:02 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 13:46:15 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, The only repository it has ever seen is DVD 1 of 13 of Debian 8.6.0 ;! An idea occurs to me; Check where those "new" packages came from. I suspect they're from the last DVD you added to your repo database. The universe of discourse is a specific set of Debian 8.6.0 dvds. So when you run aptitude, is the first entry --- Upgradable Packages ( ) and, if so, what number is in parentheses? Also if so, what do you see when you select this item? (ie press return on this item, then ↓ and return, repeating until you reach actual package names.) If you do reach a list of package names, with an appearance like so: --\ Upgradable Packages (1) --\ video - Utilities to record, view, edit, and stream video files (1) --\ main - The main Debian archive (1) i get-iplayer 2.94-1 2.97-1 what packages does it want to upgrade, and from which version to which? (It would be nice to have some concrete examples of what's being discussed.) Cheers, David. I can't give any info from the particular box in use at the start of this thread. It has developed some strange, apparently hardware related, that prevents me from doing a clean Debian install using my normal preseed.cfg . It no longer has a functional Debian. However I have another box displaying the same symptoms. But I do not know from how many DVDs of Debian 8.6.0 packages were installed. When running aptitude it reports: aptitude 0.6.11 --- Installed Packages (869) --- Not Installed Packages (41553) --- Virtual Packages (5124) --- Tasks (216) Synaptic shows >> 200 packages with the star in box icon. There is one more data-point. Before the first box went into meltdown I had run a install using the first entry on the installer's menu. I showed none of the "star in box" icons. I'm beginning to suspect these aberrant "star in box" icons revolve around my choice of which packages to load with my preseed.cfg file. I've got a full morning's work ahead of me. More later. I have done an install on the *SECOND* using preseeding and ONLY DVD #1. It has no apparent problems, particularly no "star in box" icons. I have done TWO installs on the *FIRST* machine. It *HAS developed* a machine related problem. First Install: Use preseeding and DVD #1. Install appeared typical. Boot appears to proceed normally until when I expect GUI to appear. I always get a blank screen. _Sometimes_ booting with "recovery mode" and entering Cntrl-D gives me the GUI. Second Install: Use no preseeding with first menu choice. When asked for choice of desktop etc. I clear all except "standard utilities". I get a functional CLI environment. I do apt-get install with the same set of packages specified in the preseed file. At completion typing startx brings up the GUI. However booting from the grub menu has the same set of problems as the first install. That laptop's fan had failed. I now suspect component failure had occurred before the fan was replaced. I'll keep it for education experiments in trouble shooting. Off to get another machine to be my test bed for Debian. Thanks you all.
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On 12/26/2016 9:56 PM, David Wright wrote: On Mon 26 Dec 2016 at 14:10:16 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/26/2016 2:02 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 13:46:15 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, The only repository it has ever seen is DVD 1 of 13 of Debian 8.6.0 ;! An idea occurs to me; Check where those "new" packages came from. I suspect they're from the last DVD you added to your repo database. The universe of discourse is a specific set of Debian 8.6.0 dvds. So when you run aptitude, is the first entry --- Upgradable Packages ( ) and, if so, what number is in parentheses? Also if so, what do you see when you select this item? (ie press return on this item, then ↓ and return, repeating until you reach actual package names.) If you do reach a list of package names, with an appearance like so: --\ Upgradable Packages (1) --\ video - Utilities to record, view, edit, and stream video files (1) --\ main - The main Debian archive (1) i get-iplayer 2.94-1 2.97-1 what packages does it want to upgrade, and from which version to which? (It would be nice to have some concrete examples of what's being discussed.) Cheers, David. I can't give any info from the particular box in use at the start of this thread. I has developed some strange, apparently hardware related, that prevents me from doing a clean Debian install using my normal preseed.cfg . It no longer has a functional Debian. However I have another box displaying the same symptoms. But I do not know from how many DVDs of Debian 8.6.0 packages were installed. When running aptitude it reports: aptitude 0.6.11 --- Installed Packages (869) --- Not Installed Packages (41553) --- Virtual Packages (5124) --- Tasks (216) Synaptic shows >> 200 packages with the star in box icon. There is one more data-point. Before the first box went into meltdown I had run a install using the first entry on the installer's menu. I showed none of the "star in box" icons. I'm beginning to suspect these aberrant "star in box" icons revolve around my choice of which packages to load with my preseed.cfg file. I've got a full morning's work ahead of me. More later.
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
David Wright writes: > So when you run aptitude […] > > Also if so, what do you see when you select this item? > (ie press return on this item, then ↓ and return, > repeating until you reach actual package names.) For reference, the “expand all items within this one” command is ‘[’. The corresponding “collapse all items within this one” command is ‘]’. -- \ “How many people here have telekenetic powers? Raise my hand.” | `\ —Emo Philips | _o__) | Ben Finney
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On Mon 26 Dec 2016 at 14:10:16 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/26/2016 2:02 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: > >On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 13:46:15 -0600 > >Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >Hello Richard, > > > >>The only repository it has ever seen is DVD 1 of 13 of Debian > >>8.6.0 ;! > > > >An idea occurs to me; > > > >Check where those "new" packages came from. I suspect they're from the > >last DVD you added to your repo database. > > > > The universe of discourse is a specific set of Debian 8.6.0 dvds. So when you run aptitude, is the first entry --- Upgradable Packages ( ) and, if so, what number is in parentheses? Also if so, what do you see when you select this item? (ie press return on this item, then ↓ and return, repeating until you reach actual package names.) If you do reach a list of package names, with an appearance like so: --\ Upgradable Packages (1) --\ video - Utilities to record, view, edit, and stream video files (1) --\ main - The main Debian archive (1) i get-iplayer 2.94-1 2.97-1 what packages does it want to upgrade, and from which version to which? (It would be nice to have some concrete examples of what's being discussed.) Cheers, David.
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On Monday 26 December 2016 20:10:16 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/26/2016 2:02 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 13:46:15 -0600 > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > Hello Richard, > > > >> The only repository it has ever seen is DVD 1 of 13 of Debian > >> 8.6.0 ;! > > > > An idea occurs to me; > > > > Check where those "new" packages came from. I suspect they're from the > > last DVD you added to your repo database. > > The universe of discourse is a specific set of Debian 8.6.0 dvds. Yes, but if there is more than one DVD, one of them must have been added last. Lisi
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On 12/26/2016 2:02 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 13:46:15 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, The only repository it has ever seen is DVD 1 of 13 of Debian 8.6.0 ;! An idea occurs to me; Check where those "new" packages came from. I suspect they're from the last DVD you added to your repo database. The universe of discourse is a specific set of Debian 8.6.0 dvds.
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 13:46:15 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, >The only repository it has ever seen is DVD 1 of 13 of Debian >8.6.0 ;! An idea occurs to me; Check where those "new" packages came from. I suspect they're from the last DVD you added to your repo database. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" The stakes were high but the danger low Charade - Skids pgpE77XNwF8oP.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On Mon 26 Dec 2016 at 06:21:15 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 12/26/2016 4:12 AM, Brad Rogers wrote:
> >On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 01:47:25 -0600
> >Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> >Hello Richard,
> >
> >{hopefully with a clearer head and a more stable connection...}
> >
> >>I wonder if it had specific implications "once upon a time" and
> >>now means nothing more than the empty box i.e "Not installed".
> >
> >It means /exactly/ what the help display says. It's a *new* package in
> >the repo. Even though you installed from DVD, the standard install
> >process goes online to fetch updated packages. When the install
> >finishes, you will already have that online repo added to your
> >sources.list file. If you don't want to use that repo, simply disable
> >it in Synaptic.
> >
>
> Yes, BUT
This joke tires, you know. People would waste less time if you always
admitted that detail about your configuration earlier rather than later.
> The reason I do my installs from DVDs is that I have limited
> bandwidth.
> The machine in question physically has NO internet connectivity at
> all.
> If it is significant, the DVD set is 8.6.0 .
Cheers,
David.
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On 12/26/2016 1:37 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 26 December 2016 12:21:15 Richard Owlett wrote:
On 12/26/2016 4:12 AM, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 01:47:25 -0600
Richard Owlett wrote:
Hello Richard,
{hopefully with a clearer head and a more stable connection...}
I wonder if it had specific implications "once upon a time" and
now means nothing more than the empty box i.e "Not installed".
It means /exactly/ what the help display says. It's a *new* package in
the repo. Even though you installed from DVD, the standard install
process goes online to fetch updated packages. When the install
finishes, you will already have that online repo added to your
sources.list file. If you don't want to use that repo, simply disable
it in Synaptic.
Yes, BUT
The reason I do my installs from DVDs is that I have limited
bandwidth.
The machine in question physically has NO internet connectivity
at all.
If it is significant, the DVD set is 8.6.0 .
If it has NO internet connectivity at all, how does it know whether there are
any updates?
*THAT* is my question.
The imfamous test machine has NEVER been connected to the internet.
The only repository it has ever seen is DVD 1 of 13 of Debian
8.6.0 ;!
Or are you using a new DVD set, and it is saying that there are
new packages on this DVD set from the DVD set you used to do the
installation?
Same old DVD.
Whatever repositories you use, they now have in at least one uninstalled
package that was not there before. Even allowing for the pond, I can't see
why "new uninstalled" is difficult to understand. :-/
Lisi
Lisi
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On Monday 26 December 2016 12:21:15 Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 12/26/2016 4:12 AM, Brad Rogers wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 01:47:25 -0600
> > Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> > Hello Richard,
> >
> > {hopefully with a clearer head and a more stable connection...}
> >
> >> I wonder if it had specific implications "once upon a time" and
> >> now means nothing more than the empty box i.e "Not installed".
> >
> > It means /exactly/ what the help display says. It's a *new* package in
> > the repo. Even though you installed from DVD, the standard install
> > process goes online to fetch updated packages. When the install
> > finishes, you will already have that online repo added to your
> > sources.list file. If you don't want to use that repo, simply disable
> > it in Synaptic.
>
> Yes, BUT
> The reason I do my installs from DVDs is that I have limited
> bandwidth.
> The machine in question physically has NO internet connectivity
> at all.
> If it is significant, the DVD set is 8.6.0 .
If it has NO internet connectivity at all, how does it know whether there are
any updates? Or are you using a new DVD set, and it is saying that there are
new packages on this DVD set from the DVD set you used to do the
installation?
Whatever repositories you use, they now have in at least one uninstalled
package that was not there before. Even allowing for the pond, I can't see
why "new uninstalled" is difficult to understand. :-/
Lisi
Lisi
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 10:19:35 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, >Nope ;/ Well, I'm out of ideas. >Installing from DVDs started out as a physical constraint - I was >on dial-up. Been there. :-( Not that long ago, either. >Retirees do need hobbies, don't we ;) If it keeps you off the street corners.. ;-D -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" If we're working class, why ain't we got jobs? Insane Society - Menace pgpxwa1Yo96JF.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On 12/26/2016 9:58 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 06:21:15 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, The machine in question physically has NO internet connectivity at all. Ah, that wasn't clear (to me at least) from your first post. I wonder, has that machine ever been connected to the internet? However briefly. Nope ;/ Installing from DVDs started out as a physical constraint - I was on dial-up. That combined with some volunteer work blended with an atypical mindset has led to a fascination with a sub-set of installing Debian on resource poor machines. Retirees do need hobbies, don't we ;)
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 06:21:15 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, >The machine in question physically has NO internet connectivity >at all. Ah, that wasn't clear (to me at least) from your first post. I wonder, has that machine ever been connected to the internet? However briefly. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Where will you be when the bodies burn? The Gasman Cometh - Crass pgpuUxWHoTQeC.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On 12/26/2016 4:12 AM, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 01:47:25 -0600
Richard Owlett wrote:
Hello Richard,
{hopefully with a clearer head and a more stable connection...}
I wonder if it had specific implications "once upon a time" and
now means nothing more than the empty box i.e "Not installed".
It means /exactly/ what the help display says. It's a *new* package in
the repo. Even though you installed from DVD, the standard install
process goes online to fetch updated packages. When the install
finishes, you will already have that online repo added to your
sources.list file. If you don't want to use that repo, simply disable
it in Synaptic.
Yes, BUT
The reason I do my installs from DVDs is that I have limited
bandwidth.
The machine in question physically has NO internet connectivity
at all.
If it is significant, the DVD set is 8.6.0 .
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 01:47:25 -0600
Richard Owlett wrote:
Hello Richard,
{hopefully with a clearer head and a more stable connection...}
>I wonder if it had specific implications "once upon a time" and
>now means nothing more than the empty box i.e "Not installed".
It means /exactly/ what the help display says. It's a *new* package in
the repo. Even though you installed from DVD, the standard install
process goes online to fetch updated packages. When the install
finishes, you will already have that online repo added to your
sources.list file. If you don't want to use that repo, simply disable
it in Synaptic.
--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)radnever immediately apparent"
It's your life so go your own way
Questions And Answers - Sham 69
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Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On 12/25/2016 5:44 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 25 December 2016 20:21:20 Richard Owlett wrote: Where is the icon [a yellow star in otherwise blank box] defined? Not in https://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=synaptic&apropos=0&sektio n=0&manpath=Debian+8+jessie&format=html&locale=en A graphic accessed from Help->Icon Legend says only "Not installed(new in repository)" What does "new in repository" actually mean? I've installed from a purchased set of DVDs, so it cannot mean "new since DVD created" ;/ http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/action.html HTH! Lisi Had already seen it. It is just an image of display from Help->Icon ;< I wonder if it had specific implications "once upon a time" and now means nothing more than the empty box i.e "Not installed".
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On Sunday 25 December 2016 20:21:20 Richard Owlett wrote: > Where is the icon [a yellow star in otherwise blank box] defined? > Not in > https://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=synaptic&apropos=0&sektio >n=0&manpath=Debian+8+jessie&format=html&locale=en > > A graphic accessed from Help->Icon Legend says only "Not > installed(new in repository)" > > What does "new in repository" actually mean? I've installed from > a purchased set of DVDs, so it cannot mean "new since DVD created" ;/ http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/action.html HTH! Lisi
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 22:00:23 + Brad Rogers wrote: Hello Brad, >A yellow star means there's an update available for that package No it doesn't, -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Your life is like a schedule, you run to meet the bills Life Kills - Human League pgpUZiWinfhDR.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 14:21:20 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, >Where is the icon [a yellow star in otherwise blank box] defined? >Not in A yellow star means there's an update available for that package. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" I'm not here for your entertainment U & Ur Hand - P!nk pgpMPniVuPRi9.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 14:21:20 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, >Where is the icon [a yellow star in otherwise blank box] defined? Not sure where it's described/defined, but if I understand you correctly, it means there's an update available for an uninstalled package. >What does "new in repository" actually mean? I've installed from >a purchased set of DVDs, so it cannot mean "new since DVD created" ;/ Yes, it does; The installation of Debian almost inevitably creates a non-DVD repo which can have new packages delivered to it. So, you're using a repo (or repos) other than the install DVDs and new packages have arrived in that repo. This can happen as a natural consequence of migration from sid to testing, for example. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" We're going to hell anyway, let's travel first class Saturday Night - Kaiser Chiefs pgp2wcu7SVxs0.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?
On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Where is the icon [a yellow star in otherwise blank box] defined? > Not in > https://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=synaptic&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=Debian+8+jessie&format=html&locale=en > > A graphic accessed from Help->Icon Legend says only "Not installed(new in > repository)" > > What does "new in repository" actually mean? I've installed from a purchased > set of DVDs, so it cannot mean "new since DVD created" ;/ It is referring to the online repository maintained by Debian and mirrored across all over the world. The repository locations are specified in /etc/apt/sources.list file. For example, I have the following lines in my /etc/apt/sources.list % cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free If you just look at the first line deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free it is pointing to the repository located at http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/. You can track multiple repositories (in the above example that would be http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/, http://security.debian.org/). The repository location can be something remote (as is the case in my example) or something local (ex:- DVD, CD, USB). You can even set up your own repository (on your hard drive) and point /etc/apt/sources.list there. But in general, unless otherwise specified, a repository usually means the official one maintained by Debian. hope that helps raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog
