Re: Thanks to all -- Re: Does Debian have a "nag" tool?

2020-08-15 Thread Paul M Foster
On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 08:46:18AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> "remind" is the appropriate tool.
> It does NOT rely on anything other than computer being turned on.
> With appropriate script it can "nag" me  ;}
> q.v.
> https://manpages.debian.org/buster/remind/remind.1.en.html
> https://dianne.skoll.ca/projects/remind/

FWIW, I run remind as a personal cron job every day, and have it email
me the results of today's reminders. Incredibly useful. I also wrote a
web front end for it which looks a lot nicer than tkremind. It can't
update the reminders, but it does show them in a nice calendar format on
a web page.

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Re: Thanks for all your suggestions regarding Xfce!

2015-03-06 Thread Wilko Fokken
I'll give it a try.


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Re: Thanks to All

2013-05-01 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 01 May 2013, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 06:14:00PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
  On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:19:36 -0500 Hugo Vanwoerkom
  hvw59...@care2.com wrote:
  
  Hello Hugo,
  
  mine neither
  
  Are you saying that you don't take into consideration a company's or
  developer's morality (insofar as it's possible to know their moral
  stance) when choosing a product/app/whatever?
 
 I think the point is that it has nothing to do with age.
 
Probably not. As I shall be 80 this month, I thought it was time to
start experimenting with FreeBSD. Clearly a technical challenge; as for
morality, I think FreeBSD, like Debian, scores pretty well for that.

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Re: Thanks to All

2013-05-01 Thread staticsafe
On 5/1/2013 3:27, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 On 01 May 2013, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 06:14:00PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:19:36 -0500 Hugo Vanwoerkom
 hvw59...@care2.com wrote:

 Hello Hugo,

 mine neither

 Are you saying that you don't take into consideration a company's or
 developer's morality (insofar as it's possible to know their moral
 stance) when choosing a product/app/whatever?

 I think the point is that it has nothing to do with age.

 Probably not. As I shall be 80 this month, I thought it was time to
 start experimenting with FreeBSD. Clearly a technical challenge; as for
 morality, I think FreeBSD, like Debian, scores pretty well for that.
 
 AC`kkk
 

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Re: Thanks to All

2013-05-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 1 May 2013 09:40:28 +1200
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:

Hello Chris,

I think the point is that it has nothing to do with age.

Ah, I see.

Obviously, I'm not as wise as I am old.   :-)

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Re: Thanks to All

2013-05-01 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 01 May 2013, staticsafe wrote:
 On 5/1/2013 3:27, Anthony Campbell wrote:
  
 
 If you need any help, feel free to subscribe to freebsd-questions[0].
 
 [0] - http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
 

Yes, thanks - already done that. I'm enjoying my exploration of FreeBSD.

AC

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 23:36:53 +0200
Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl wrote:

Hello Siard,

AFAIK, in general, the older one gets, the less important technical
aspects become w.r.t. the choices one makes, and the more important
the extent gets to which one can identify himself with the makers/
manufacturers/developers.

Whilst I agree that the manufacturer's/developer's (etc.) philosophy
starts to get more important as one gets older (I'm 52 myself), if the
technical aspects don't fit my requirements the project would still be a
non starter.  For me.

Like I said;  Each to their own.

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:47:01 -0700
Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hello Patrick,

I installed Claws-Mail and only the Fancy plugin.  It works, sort
of:  Format HTML correctly, but doesn't show images.  Config problem?
Don't know.  Yet.

Yes.  Even if the Load images option is set to yes, there are times
when they still won't get displayed unless you also set enable remote
content.  If you don't want to do that on a permanent basis (via the
Fancy plugin configuration menu item), it can be done on a per mail
basis by clicking on the tools icon at the bottom of the display area
and selecting enable remote content there.

Sylpheed only has one plugin.  And it wasn't what I needed.  CM plugin
don't show up in Sylpheed, but I haven't really tried finding out why
or even if they are compatible.

Since the divergence (some years ago now), I have no idea whether the
plugin i/f's are compatible.

Gotta finish reading the f'ing manuals first. ;-)

Manuals?  We don't need no stinkin' manuals!   :-)

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Re: Thanks to All

2013-04-30 Thread Siard
John Hasler writes:
 Siard writes:
  AFAIK, in general, the older one gets, the less important technical
  aspects become w.r.t. the choices one makes, and the more important
  the extent gets to which one can identify himself with the makers/
  manufacturers/developers.
 
 That has not been my experience.

Some people mature very slowly... :-))  Perhaps it's yet to come ;-)

I used SuSE for a long time. But when its owner, Novell, went to
collaborate with a company that is not known for its noble intentions,
I could not live with that and switched to Debian.  That is a clear
example of a non-technical criterion.


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Re: Thanks to All

2013-04-30 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

John Hasler wrote:

Siard writes:

AFAIK, in general, the older one gets, the less important technical
aspects become w.r.t. the choices one makes, and the more important
the extent gets to which one can identify himself with the makers/
manufacturers/developers.


That has not been my experience.


mine neither

hugo


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Re: Thanks to All

2013-04-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:19:36 -0500
Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote:

Hello Hugo,

mine neither

Are you saying that you don't take into consideration a company's or
developer's morality (insofar as it's possible to know their moral
stance) when choosing a product/app/whatever?

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Re: Thanks to All

2013-04-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 06:14:00PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:19:36 -0500
 Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote:
 
 Hello Hugo,
 
 mine neither
 
 Are you saying that you don't take into consideration a company's or
 developer's morality (insofar as it's possible to know their moral
 stance) when choosing a product/app/whatever?

I think the point is that it has nothing to do with age.

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Siard
Patrick Bartek wrote:
 google-chrome '%s' works.  Don't forget the hyphen.
 
 I just wish it could open in Sylpheed's reader window itself, instead
 of me having to switch to a different workspace where google-chrome is
 running all the time.

Instead of google-chrome, you could try midori, and close it after viewing.
It's a fast, light-weight browser that I find well suited for this purpose.


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Siard
Lisi Reisz:
 Siard:
  Check whether you can open chrome + url from the command line like
  this: $ chrome www.google.com
  If this works, then  chrome '%s'  should work with the 'Open' menu
  option mentioned above.
 
 I type google-chrome (without the  and ) in the launcher to get
 Crome opened.

Yes, as you can see, I don't have Chrome installed myself...  ;-)


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 06:41:31PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
 On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:36:06 +0200, Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
 wrote:
 
[cut]
 
 google-chrome '%s' works.  Don't forget the hyphen.
 
 I just wish it could open in Sylpheed's reader window itself, instead
 of me having to switch to a different workspace where google-chrome is
 running all the time.  Would Thunderbird or similar do that?  I've
 never used it, so I don't know.

You might try switching to Claws-Mail, then. It's a fork of Sylpheed
which offers extra features, one of which is the Fancy plugin. Enable
that and you can view HTML messages directly in the viewer pane.



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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:45:46 +0100
Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 06:41:31PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
  On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:36:06 +0200, Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
  wrote:
  
 [cut]
  
  google-chrome '%s' works.  Don't forget the hyphen.
  
  I just wish it could open in Sylpheed's reader window itself,
  instead of me having to switch to a different workspace where
  google-chrome is running all the time.  Would Thunderbird or
  similar do that?  I've never used it, so I don't know.
 
 You might try switching to Claws-Mail, then. It's a fork of Sylpheed
 which offers extra features, one of which is the Fancy plugin.
 Enable that and you can view HTML messages directly in the viewer
 pane.

Sylpheed accepts plugins, too.  To what extent I don't know.
Haven't gotten that far in the manual.  Since Claws is a fork, maybe,
they are similar.

B


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 23:41:50 -0400
Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote:

 On 04/28/2013 09:41 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

  [snip]
  I just wish it could open in Sylpheed's reader window itself,
  instead of me having to switch to a different workspace where
  google-chrome is running all the time.  Would Thunderbird or
  similar do that?  I've never used it, so I don't know.
 
 
That's one of the main reasons I switched from Sylpheed to 
 Thunderbird. It's handling of html is built-in. A second reason was I 
 found Sylpheed's IMAP-handling a little flakey. YMMV.

Flakey in what way?  So far, I haven't noted anything unusual with
Sylpheed.

B


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 07:07:01 -0700
Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hello Patrick,

Sylpheed accepts plugins, too.  To what extent I don't know.
Haven't gotten that far in the manual.  Since Claws is a fork, maybe,
they are similar.

Look 'n' feel is similar, but one of the reasons for the split was the
ever increasing difficulty of merging Claws code into a new release of
the Sylpheed original.  It shouldn't be difficult to migrate.

From what I see at their respective web sites, CM has more plugins
available for it that Sylpheed has.

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Frank McCormick

On 04/29/2013 10:10 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 23:41:50 -0400
Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote:


On 04/28/2013 09:41 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:



[snip]
I just wish it could open in Sylpheed's reader window itself,
instead of me having to switch to a different workspace where
google-chrome is running all the time.  Would Thunderbird or
similar do that?  I've never used it, so I don't know.



That's one of the main reasons I switched from Sylpheed to
Thunderbird. It's handling of html is built-in. A second reason was I
found Sylpheed's IMAP-handling a little flakey. YMMV.


Flakey in what way?  So far, I haven't noted anything unusual with
Sylpheed.


   As I recall (it's been a year or two since I switched) Sylpheed was 
timing out on one or two IMAP connections...waiting for the 60 sec 
timeout, then rebuilding the IMAP connection, at which point everything 
would be fine...until the next time when it would timeout again..etc 
etc. I spent a lot of time configuring and reconfiguring, Googline the 
problem etc. Thundebird never seems to have the problem.


  As far as plugins, CLAWS is the definite winner. Sylpheed has very 
few (if any).


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Siard
Brad Rogers:
 Patrick Bartek:
  Sylpheed accepts plugins, too.  To what extent I don't know.
  Haven't gotten that far in the manual.  Since Claws is a fork,
  maybe, they are similar.
 
 Look 'n' feel is similar, but one of the reasons for the split was the
 ever increasing difficulty of merging Claws code into a new release of
 the Sylpheed original.  It shouldn't be difficult to migrate.
 
 From what I see at their respective web sites, CM has more plugins
 available for it that Sylpheed has.

Using Sylpheed, I once tried Claws.  For messages marked with a color
in Sylpheed, the colors got lost.  It had a couple of extra bells and
whistles I didn't need and that I found just irritating.  But that
horrible logo just about put the lid on it.  It was a picture of a
bird's claw.  Then I realized: I'm not of their kind.  Back to Sylpheed!


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 19:41:17 +0200
Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl wrote:

Hello Siard,

Using Sylpheed, I once tried Claws.  For messages marked with a color
in Sylpheed, the colors got lost.  It had a couple of extra bells and

IDK why that happened.  I never used colouring in Sylpheed, so can't
even hazard guess for the reason.

whistles I didn't need and that I found just irritating.  But that
horrible logo just about put the lid on it.  It was a picture of a
bird's claw.  Then I realized: I'm not of their kind.  Back to Sylpheed!

Each to their own, of course.  I don't care about logos, etc.  If the
program does what I want, then it's fine by me.

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Siard
Brad Rogers:
 Siard:
  But that horrible logo just about put the lid on it.  It was a
  picture of a bird's claw.  Then I realized: I'm not of their kind.
  Back to Sylpheed!
 
 Each to their own, of course.  I don't care about logos, etc.  If the
 program does what I want, then it's fine by me.

AFAIK, in general, the older one gets, the less important technical
aspects become w.r.t. the choices one makes, and the more important
the extent gets to which one can identify himself with the makers/
manufacturers/developers.

- Siard (male, 62)


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Re: Thanks to All

2013-04-29 Thread John Hasler
Siard writes:
 AFAIK, in general, the older one gets, the less important technical
 aspects become w.r.t. the choices one makes, and the more important
 the extent gets to which one can identify himself with the makers/
 manufacturers/developers.

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:21:54 +0100
Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote:

 On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 07:07:01 -0700
 Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Hello Patrick,
 
 Sylpheed accepts plugins, too.  To what extent I don't know.
 Haven't gotten that far in the manual.  Since Claws is a fork, maybe,
 they are similar.
 
 Look 'n' feel is similar, but one of the reasons for the split was the
 ever increasing difficulty of merging Claws code into a new release of
 the Sylpheed original.  It shouldn't be difficult to migrate.

I installed Claws-Mail and only the Fancy plugin.  It works, sort
of:  Format HTML correctly, but doesn't show images.  Config problem?
Don't know.  Yet.

 From what I see at their respective web sites, CM has more plugins
 available for it that Sylpheed has.

Sylpheed only has one plugin.  And it wasn't what I needed.  CM plugin
don't show up in Sylpheed, but I haven't really tried finding out why
or even if they are compatible.

Gotta finish reading the f'ing manuals first. ;-)

B


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:08:16 -0400
Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote:

 On 04/29/2013 10:10 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
  On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 23:41:50 -0400
  Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote:
 
  On 04/28/2013 09:41 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
 
  [snip]
  I just wish it could open in Sylpheed's reader window itself,
  instead of me having to switch to a different workspace where
  google-chrome is running all the time.  Would Thunderbird or
  similar do that?  I've never used it, so I don't know.
 
 
  That's one of the main reasons I switched from Sylpheed to
  Thunderbird. It's handling of html is built-in. A second reason
  was I found Sylpheed's IMAP-handling a little flakey. YMMV.
 
  Flakey in what way?  So far, I haven't noted anything unusual with
  Sylpheed.
 
 As I recall (it's been a year or two since I switched) Sylpheed
 was timing out on one or two IMAP connections...waiting for the 60
 sec timeout, then rebuilding the IMAP connection, at which point
 everything would be fine...until the next time when it would timeout
 again..etc etc. I spent a lot of time configuring and reconfiguring,
 Googline the problem etc. Thundebird never seems to have the problem.

Haven't noted any time outs here.  Maybe, it was bug that's been
fixed since last used it or the time out has been turned off by
default.  Don't know.  But I'll keep an eye out.

As far as plugins, CLAWS is the definite winner. Sylpheed has very 
 few (if any).

Sylpheed only has one, as far as I can find.

B


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Alan Ianson
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:47:01 -0700
Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote:

 On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:21:54 +0100
 Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote:
 
  On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 07:07:01 -0700
  Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
  Hello Patrick,
  
  Sylpheed accepts plugins, too.  To what extent I don't know.
  Haven't gotten that far in the manual.  Since Claws is a fork,
  maybe, they are similar.
  
  Look 'n' feel is similar, but one of the reasons for the split was
  the ever increasing difficulty of merging Claws code into a new
  release of the Sylpheed original.  It shouldn't be difficult to
  migrate.
 
 I installed Claws-Mail and only the Fancy plugin.  It works, sort
 of:  Format HTML correctly, but doesn't show images.  Config problem?
 Don't know.  Yet.

I think so. I also use claws mail with the fancy plugin and it displays
images fine here. As I recall I spent quite a while in the config till
I got happy with everything though.. :)

I also use the tray icon plugin so I can minimize claws to the system
tray and see when new mail arrives.


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:36:25 -0700,Alan Ianson agian...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:47:01 -0700
 Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:21:54 +0100
  Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote:
  
   On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 07:07:01 -0700
   Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote:
   
   Hello Patrick,
   
   Sylpheed accepts plugins, too.  To what extent I don't know.
   Haven't gotten that far in the manual.  Since Claws is a fork,
   maybe, they are similar.
   
   Look 'n' feel is similar, but one of the reasons for the split was
   the ever increasing difficulty of merging Claws code into a new
   release of the Sylpheed original.  It shouldn't be difficult to
   migrate.
  
  I installed Claws-Mail and only the Fancy plugin.  It works, sort
  of:  Format HTML correctly, but doesn't show images.  Config
  problem? Don't know.  Yet.
 
 I think so. I also use claws mail with the fancy plugin and it
 displays images fine here. As I recall I spent quite a while in the
 config till I got happy with everything though.. :)

It was a config setting.  Images were set NOT to show.  Changed it.
Also, ticks for turning on javascript, java, etc.  Not touching those
until I read the manual.  Don't know exactly how they will work in the
reader.

 I also use the tray icon plugin so I can minimize claws to the system
 tray and see when new mail arrives.

I don't have either Claws or Slypheed set to check for mail
automatically. I do it manually 2 or 3 times a day.  Prefer it that way.

Thanks for the info.

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-28 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:06:33 -0400
Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote:

 On 04/27/2013 07:10 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
  On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:48:55 -0400, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net
  wrote:
 
  On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:15:09PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
 
  [snip
 
  All that's left to do other than some final tweaking is deciding
  how to handle those HTML e-mails with all their pretty graphics
  and pictures I get from friends, clients and suppliers who use
  Windows. ;-)
 
  I'm not sure about Sylpheed, but here's how it works on Mutt.  If I
  get an HTML email, I hit 'v' to view attachments.  There will be an
  html attachment which represents the body of the email.  If I
  select it, the email will open in a web browser.
 
  I don't know how Sylpheed handles HTML either.  I'm still reading
  the manual.  Since it accepts plugins, I'm hoping it will be handle
  there, automagically.
 
  B
 
 
 
 Sylpheed simply strips all the extraneous codes out and displays 
 HTML as text. As far as I know there are no plugins which would help
 it to display HTML as they are supposed to be rendered. CLAWS which
 is a Sylpheed spinoff does have ways to display HTML and is a drop-in 
 replacement for Sylpheed. I tried it recently but found the 
 documentation lacking in clarity. I ended up switching to Thunderbird.

Yes, it strips the code, shows the plain text, plus, all the image
links. All of it in no particular order.  There's got to be a better
option.  I'll let the list know, if I find one.

B


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-28 Thread Siard
Patrick Bartek:
 Frank McCormick:
  Sylpheed simply strips all the extraneous codes out and
  displays HTML as text. As far as I know there are no plugins which
  would help it to display HTML as they are supposed to be rendered.
  CLAWS which is a Sylpheed spinoff does have ways to display HTML
  and is a drop-in replacement for Sylpheed. I tried it recently but
  found the documentation lacking in clarity. I ended up switching to
  Thunderbird.
 
 Yes, it strips the code, shows the plain text, plus, all the image
 links. All of it in no particular order.  There's got to be a better
 option.  I'll let the list know, if I find one.

Wait a minute. In Sylpheed, html messages can be viewed with an external
browser. (Right click  Open...)
This works so well that there has never been a need for an internal
html viewer.
The browser you prefer can be set in Configuration  Common preferences 
Details  tab External commands.
I have 'Web browser' set to   opera '%s' .


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-28 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:17:11 +0200
Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl wrote:

 Patrick Bartek:
  Frank McCormick:
   Sylpheed simply strips all the extraneous codes out and
   displays HTML as text. As far as I know there are no plugins which
   would help it to display HTML as they are supposed to be rendered.
   CLAWS which is a Sylpheed spinoff does have ways to display HTML
   and is a drop-in replacement for Sylpheed. I tried it recently but
   found the documentation lacking in clarity. I ended up switching
   to Thunderbird.
  
  Yes, it strips the code, shows the plain text, plus, all the image
  links. All of it in no particular order.  There's got to be a better
  option.  I'll let the list know, if I find one.
 
 Wait a minute. In Sylpheed, html messages can be viewed with an
 external browser. (Right click  Open...)

An Open option is not available.  And I can't find any such option in
any of the menus either.

 This works so well that there has never been a need for an internal
 html viewer.
 The browser you prefer can be set in Configuration  Common
 preferences  Details  tab External commands.
 I have 'Web browser' set to   opera '%s' .

I have mine set to google chrome '%s'.  I also tried chrome '%s'.  No
joy.Of course, I'm configuring as I learn how to use Sylpheed.  So,
that could be part of the problem.

B


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-28 Thread Siard
Patrick Bartek:
 Siard:
  Patrick Bartek:
   Frank McCormick:
Sylpheed simply strips all the extraneous codes out and
displays HTML as text. As far as I know there are no plugins which
would help it to display HTML as they are supposed to be rendered.
CLAWS which is a Sylpheed spinoff does have ways to display HTML
and is a drop-in replacement for Sylpheed. I tried it recently but
found the documentation lacking in clarity. I ended up switching
to Thunderbird.
   
   Yes, it strips the code, shows the plain text, plus, all the image
   links. All of it in no particular order.  There's got to be a better
   option.  I'll let the list know, if I find one.
  
  Wait a minute. In Sylpheed, html messages can be viewed with an
  external browser. (Right click  Open...)
 
 An Open option is not available.  And I can't find any such option in
 any of the menus either.

Click the 'attachment list view' button that appears in every message
containing html.  I'll show it here, it's at the right red arrow:
http://home.kpn.nl/shiems/stuff/sylpheed.png
Then right-click the html part (left red arrow) to 'Open' or 'Open with...'

  This works so well that there has never been a need for an internal
  html viewer.
  The browser you prefer can be set in Configuration  Common
  preferences  Details  tab External commands.
  I have 'Web browser' set to   opera '%s' .
 
 I have mine set to google chrome '%s'.  I also tried chrome '%s'.  No
 joy.Of course, I'm configuring as I learn how to use Sylpheed.  So,
 that could be part of the problem.

Check whether you can open chrome + url from the command line like this:
$ chrome www.google.com
If this works, then  chrome '%s'  should work with the 'Open' menu option
mentioned above.


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 28 April 2013 18:36:06 Siard wrote:
 Check whether you can open chrome + url from the command line like this:
 $ chrome www.google.com
 If this works, then  chrome '%s'  should work with the 'Open' menu option
 mentioned above.

I type google-chrome (without the  and ) in the launcher to get Crome 
opened.

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-28 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:36:06 +0200, Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
wrote:

 Patrick Bartek:
  Siard:
 [snip]
   
   Wait a minute. In Sylpheed, html messages can be viewed with an
   external browser. (Right click  Open...)
  
  An Open option is not available.  And I can't find any such
  option in any of the menus either.
 
 Click the 'attachment list view' button that appears in every message
 containing html.  I'll show it here, it's at the right red arrow:
 http://home.kpn.nl/shiems/stuff/sylpheed.png
 Then right-click the html part (left red arrow) to 'Open' or 'Open
 with...'

Okay, found it.

  [snip]
  I have mine set to google chrome '%s'.  I also tried chrome '%s'.
  No joy.Of course, I'm configuring as I learn how to use
  Sylpheed.  So, that could be part of the problem.
 
 Check whether you can open chrome + url from the command line like
 this: $ chrome www.google.com
 If this works, then  chrome '%s'  should work with the 'Open' menu
 option mentioned above.

google-chrome '%s' works.  Don't forget the hyphen.

I just wish it could open in Sylpheed's reader window itself, instead
of me having to switch to a different workspace where google-chrome is
running all the time.  Would Thunderbird or similar do that?  I've
never used it, so I don't know.

B


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-28 Thread Frank McCormick

On 04/28/2013 09:41 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:36:06 +0200, Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
wrote:


Patrick Bartek:

Siard:
[snip]


Wait a minute. In Sylpheed, html messages can be viewed with an
external browser. (Right click  Open...)


An Open option is not available.  And I can't find any such
option in any of the menus either.


Click the 'attachment list view' button that appears in every message
containing html.  I'll show it here, it's at the right red arrow:
http://home.kpn.nl/shiems/stuff/sylpheed.png
Then right-click the html part (left red arrow) to 'Open' or 'Open
with...'


Okay, found it.


[snip]
I have mine set to google chrome '%s'.  I also tried chrome '%s'.
No joy.Of course, I'm configuring as I learn how to use
Sylpheed.  So, that could be part of the problem.


Check whether you can open chrome + url from the command line like
this: $ chrome www.google.com
If this works, then  chrome '%s'  should work with the 'Open' menu
option mentioned above.


google-chrome '%s' works.  Don't forget the hyphen.

I just wish it could open in Sylpheed's reader window itself, instead
of me having to switch to a different workspace where google-chrome is
running all the time.  Would Thunderbird or similar do that?  I've
never used it, so I don't know.



  That's one of the main reasons I switched from Sylpheed to 
Thunderbird. It's handling of html is built-in. A second reason was I 
found Sylpheed's IMAP-handling a little flakey. YMMV.





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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-27 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:15:09PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
 Thanks to all who helped getting my Yahoo Mail account switched over to a 
 standard e-mail client, currently Sylpheed 3.2.0.  I've always hated using 
 the web interface.
 
 All that's left to do other than some final tweaking is deciding how to 
 handle those HTML e-mails with all their pretty graphics and pictures I get 
 from friends, clients and suppliers who use Windows. ;-)
 
I'm not sure about Sylpheed, but here's how it works on Mutt.  If I get
an HTML email, I hit 'v' to view attachments.  There will be an html
attachment which represents the body of the email.  If I select it, the
email will open in a web browser.

-Rob


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:15:09PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
 Thanks to all who helped getting my Yahoo Mail account switched over to a 
 standard e-mail client, currently Sylpheed 3.2.0.  I've always hated using 
 the web interface.
 
 All that's left to do other than some final tweaking is deciding how to 
 handle those HTML e-mails with all their pretty graphics and pictures I get 
 from friends, clients and suppliers who use Windows. ;-)

You'll also want to tweak the line wrap option (I hope) :)

http://sylpheeddoc.sourceforge.net/en/faq/faq-1.html
http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/doc/manual/en/sylpheed-8.html

According to research 72 is a good limit for comprehension, whereas some
people said they could read faster if the lines were set at about 100
characters but then they didn't comprehend it as well as if it was set
at 72 characters. 

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-27 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 08:34:28 +1200, Chris Bannister
cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:

 On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:15:09PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
 
  [snip
  
  All that's left to do other than some final tweaking is deciding
  how to handle those HTML e-mails with all their pretty graphics and
  pictures I get from friends, clients and suppliers who use
  Windows. ;-)
 
 You'll also want to tweak the line wrap option (I hope) :)
 
 [snip]
 
 According to research 72 is a good limit for comprehension, whereas
 [snip]

Oops!  I had line length set at 72, but hadn't enabled word wrap.
Silly me.

B


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-27 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:48:55 -0400, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote:

 On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:15:09PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
 
  [snip
  
  All that's left to do other than some final tweaking is deciding
  how to handle those HTML e-mails with all their pretty graphics and
  pictures I get from friends, clients and suppliers who use
  Windows. ;-)
  
 I'm not sure about Sylpheed, but here's how it works on Mutt.  If I
 get an HTML email, I hit 'v' to view attachments.  There will be an
 html attachment which represents the body of the email.  If I select
 it, the email will open in a web browser.

I don't know how Sylpheed handles HTML either.  I'm still reading the
manual.  Since it accepts plugins, I'm hoping it will be handle there,
automagically.

B


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA Yahoo)

2013-04-27 Thread Frank McCormick

On 04/27/2013 07:10 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:48:55 -0400, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote:


On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:15:09PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:


[snip

All that's left to do other than some final tweaking is deciding
how to handle those HTML e-mails with all their pretty graphics and
pictures I get from friends, clients and suppliers who use
Windows. ;-)


I'm not sure about Sylpheed, but here's how it works on Mutt.  If I
get an HTML email, I hit 'v' to view attachments.  There will be an
html attachment which represents the body of the email.  If I select
it, the email will open in a web browser.


I don't know how Sylpheed handles HTML either.  I'm still reading the
manual.  Since it accepts plugins, I'm hoping it will be handle there,
automagically.

B




   Sylpheed simply strips all the extraneous codes out and displays 
HTML as text. As far as I know there are no plugins which would help
it to display HTML as they are supposed to be rendered. CLAWS which is a 
Sylpheed spinoff does have ways to display HTML and is a drop-in 
replacement for Sylpheed. I tried it recently but found the 
documentation lacking in clarity. I ended up switching to Thunderbird.




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Re: Thanks to all the devs and maintainers of Debian

2008-06-30 Thread Gerard Robin

+1
user staunch of Debian.  
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Re: Thanks to all the devs and maintainers of Debian

2008-06-29 Thread Ezra Taylor
Much respect for you cats.  Keep up the great work.

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Joey Hess and all the rest,

 Just wanted to say thanks.  You all have been very helpfull and I for one
 appreciate your work.  Sadly, the only one I know for sure is Joey who has in
 the past helped me out personally on the mailing lists.  Debian is rock solid
 and very usable thanks to you all.  Just wanted to say that.

 Sincerely,
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Re: Thanks to all the devs and maintainers of Debian

2008-06-29 Thread j t
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Ezra Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Much respect for you cats.  Keep up the great work.

And another huge thank you from me too. I've no idea what I'd do
without my fave distro.

Jaime :-)


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Re: Thanks to all the devs and maintainers of Debian

2008-06-29 Thread Sam Kuper
Wholehearted agreement here. Hmm, maybe we should copy in an Ubuntu mailing
list (ditto all other Debian-derived distros) so more folks can join in the
love-in? :)

Sincere thanks for all that you (the developers and maintainers) have done,
and to Damon Chesser for starting such a feel-good thread.

Sam


Re: Thanks to all the devs and maintainers of Debian

2008-06-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 01:01 +0100, Sam Kuper wrote:
 Wholehearted agreement here. Hmm, maybe we should copy in an Ubuntu
 mailing list (ditto all other Debian-derived distros) so more
 folks can join in the love-in? :)

I think that would only be appropriate if Ubuntu were congruent to the
debian-desktop project instead of being gratuitously different, in
particularly when it comes to package naming and compatibility.  Until
then, they're reinventing the wheel, and it's not entirely round.

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Re: Thanks to all the devs and maintainers of Debian

2008-06-29 Thread rusi_pathan
 Debian is rock solid and very usable thanks to you all.  Just wanted to say 
 that.

+1

Cant imagine myself using anything but Debian.


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Re: Thanks to all the devs and maintainers of Debian

2008-06-24 Thread Star Liu
yes, cannot thank debian too much :)
I hope debian will always be free, stable and powerful :)

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:58 AM, H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

 Damon L. Chesser wrote:

 Joey Hess and all the rest,

 Just wanted to say thanks.  You all have been very helpfull and I for one
 appreciate your work.  Sadly, the only one I know for sure is Joey who has
 in the past helped me out personally on the mailing lists.  Debian is rock
 solid and very usable thanks to you all.  Just wanted to say that.


 Second that. Super team.

 Hugo



 I agree wholeheartedly.

 Also, the Debian policy of making it clear which packages are open source
 and which are non-free helps me trust Debian more than any other
 distribution. Many times I have checked if a package was included in Debian
 to make my first impressions ... if it is not in Debian then it requires
 more thorough care before installing it.

 Great work!!
 -HS



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Re: Thanks to all the devs and maintainers of Debian

2008-06-22 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Damon L. Chesser wrote:

Joey Hess and all the rest,

Just wanted to say thanks.  You all have been very helpfull and I for one 
appreciate your work.  Sadly, the only one I know for sure is Joey who has in 
the past helped me out personally on the mailing lists.  Debian is rock solid 
and very usable thanks to you all.  Just wanted to say that.




Second that. Super team.

Hugo


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Re: Thanks to all the devs and maintainers of Debian

2008-06-22 Thread H.S.

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Damon L. Chesser wrote:

Joey Hess and all the rest,

Just wanted to say thanks.  You all have been very helpfull and I for 
one appreciate your work.  Sadly, the only one I know for sure is Joey 
who has in the past helped me out personally on the mailing lists.  
Debian is rock solid and very usable thanks to you all.  Just wanted 
to say that.




Second that. Super team.

Hugo




I agree wholeheartedly.

Also, the Debian policy of making it clear which packages are open 
source and which are non-free helps me trust Debian more than any other 
distribution. Many times I have checked if a package was included in 
Debian to make my first impressions ... if it is not in Debian then it 
requires more thorough care before installing it.


Great work!!
-HS


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