Re: Threading list subjects?
Jason Costomiris wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 01:48:48PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: : Hi, : Jason == Jason Costomiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : : Jason Indeed. However, you don't need to learn the finger-breaking : Jason keystrokes emacs requires (sorry guys, what was that, : Jason meta+alt+left shift_F9 for that function? g )... : : You are just showing how dated your knowledge of Emacs is. Sure, beat up on the vi guy who makes a joke about emacs. Would you recognize a joke if it jumped off of your screen and kicked you? Daddy? Why are we hiding from the police? Because we use vi son. They use emacs. Besides, are there no more wacko keybindings in emacs? I think they are still there. Oh sure, they're there. Here's one you apparently might like :) (global-set-key [(meta alt shift f9)] 'viper-mode) (Sorry, this will only work in XEmacs, which I don't believe distinguishes between left and right shift keys - either does GNU emacs for that matter.) Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Threading list subjects?
Hi, Jason == Jason Costomiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jason Indeed. However, you don't need to learn the finger-breaking Jason keystrokes emacs requires (sorry guys, what was that, Jason meta+alt+left shift_F9 for that function? g )... You are just showing how dated your knowledge of Emacs is. manoj -- It's ten o'clock... Do you know where your AI programs are? -- Peter Oakley Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Threading list subjects?
On Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 01:48:48PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: : Hi, : Jason == Jason Costomiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : : Jason Indeed. However, you don't need to learn the finger-breaking : Jason keystrokes emacs requires (sorry guys, what was that, : Jason meta+alt+left shift_F9 for that function? g )... : : You are just showing how dated your knowledge of Emacs is. Sure, beat up on the vi guy who makes a joke about emacs. Would you recognize a joke if it jumped off of your screen and kicked you? Besides, are there no more wacko keybindings in emacs? I think they are still there. -- Jason Costomiris | Linux... [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Find out what you've been missing http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom/ | while you've been rebooting Windows NT. #include disclaimer.h | --Infoworld -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Threading list subjects?
In response to a question about threading debian-user, Mike wrote: I use Gnus - a powerful, customizable news- and mail-reading part of emacs (and xemacs). It will thread, score, sort and do just about anything you want to your mail. Is Gnus able to use the References: line in mail messages to thread? Before I started getting debian-user as I digest, I mail = newsed the posts to a dummy newsgroup so I could use Cnews to expire the messages and Tin to thread them. Looked something like this in TIn: 0 [ 20] porting Vispro/REXX OS/2-programms to Wi Laurie Chan 1 [ 56] `-dIon Gillard 2 [ 10] porting Vispro/REXX OS/2-programms to Wi Heinz M?ller 3 [ 47] `-dIon Gillard 4 [ 37]+- Heinz M?ller I still do this with debian-user-digest, splitting the digest and adding a dummy Message-ID and some other fields to keep the news system happy. But the individual digest posts don't include a References: line so that it's just a flat thread: 3 [ 26] Threading list subjects? Marco Anglesio 4 [ 34] Threading list subjects? Ionut Borcoman 5 + [ 11] Threading list subjects? Mike Miller I wonder if not snipping the References line would be useful to anybody else? rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Threading list subjects?
On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 10:19:48PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to a question about threading debian-user, Mike wrote: I use Gnus - a powerful, customizable news- and mail-reading part of emacs (and xemacs). It will thread, score, sort and do just about anything you want to your mail. Is Gnus able to use the References: line in mail messages to thread? Before I started getting debian-user as I digest, I mail = newsed the posts to a dummy newsgroup so I could use Cnews to expire the messages and Tin to thread them. Looked something like this in TIn: 0 [ 20] porting Vispro/REXX OS/2-programms to Wi Laurie Chan 1 [ 56] `-dIon Gillard 2 [ 10] porting Vispro/REXX OS/2-programms to Wi Heinz M?ller 3 [ 47] `-dIon Gillard 4 [ 37]+- Heinz M?ller I still do this with debian-user-digest, splitting the digest and adding a dummy Message-ID and some other fields to keep the news system happy. But the individual digest posts don't include a References: line so that it's just a flat thread: 3 [ 26] Threading list subjects? Marco Anglesio 4 [ 34] Threading list subjects? Ionut Borcoman 5 + [ 11] Threading list subjects? Mike Miller I wonder if not snipping the References line would be useful to anybody else? rick It thinks to removed it than to add it... A good thing then. -- Fabien Ninoles Running Debian/GNU Linux E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WebPage: http://www.callisto.si.usherb.ca/~94246757 WorkStation [available when connected!]: http://nightbird.tzone.org/ RSA PGP KEY [E3723845]: 1C C1 4F A6 EE E5 4D 99 4F 80 2D 2D 1F 85 C1 70 pgpTiWCuGFbXB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Threading list subjects?
r3chard == r3chard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is Gnus able to use the References: line in mail messages to thread? Yes, Gnus uses the Reference: header(s) to build threads. If references aren't available, it does what it can using Subject: headers. It can also use fuzzy matching of subjects - sort of a noise filter to make guesses about what might be related to what. With no customization to threading, Gnus 5.5 made this thread look like this: A [ 22: Ray Schultz ] Threading list subjects? 34: Nathan E Norman 23: Nathan C. Burnett 22: Marco Anglesio 26: Ionut Borcoman 10: Mike Miller 20: Christian Weisgerber 37: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I still do this with debian-user-digest, splitting the digest and adding a dummy Message-ID and some other fields to keep the news system happy. The debian-user-digest that I get already has Message-ID's. I wonder if not snipping the References line would be useful to anybody else? I think that would be handy. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Threading list subjects?
On 9 Apr 1998, Mike Miller wrote: Is Gnus able to use the References: line in mail messages to thread? Yes, Gnus uses the Reference: header(s) to build threads. If references aren't available, it does what it can using Subject: headers. It can also use fuzzy matching of subjects - sort of a noise filter to make guesses about what might be related to what. I've put off learning Emacs for too long. Sounds like I'm just re-inventing the wheel with the mail to news thing. I still do this with debian-user-digest, splitting the digest and adding a dummy Message-ID and some other fields to keep the news system happy. The debian-user-digest that I get already has Message-ID's. Yeah, mine too. The only digests I have to dummy up a msg-id for are the vger lists, like kernel-digest. I wonder if not snipping the References line would be useful to anybody else? I think that would be handy. rick -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Threading list subjects?
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 08:49:47AM -0700, Rick Younie wrote: : I've put off learning Emacs for too long. Sounds like I'm just : re-inventing the wheel with the mail to news thing. Indeed. However, you don't need to learn the finger-breaking keystrokes emacs requires (sorry guys, what was that, meta+alt+left shift_F9 for that function? g )... Mutt does threading based on the References: header, and is much less filling than Emacs -- Jason Costomiris | Linux... [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Find out what you've been missing http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom/ | while you've been rebooting Windows NT. #include disclaimer.h | --Infoworld -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Threading list subjects?
With either emacs or xemacs, Gnus can be completely mouse driven. xemacs is likely to satisfy even the most pointy-and-clicky folks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Threading list subjects?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ray Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am new to the list. I have been on for only few days and already have 75 messages from the list. [...] How are all you guys handling the subject threading deal? I use newsgate to forward various mailing lists to strictly local list.* newsgroups. This allows me to read high volume mailing lists like the Debian and FreeBSD ones with my newsreader of choice (currently trn4) with support for threading and killfiles. -- Christian naddy Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] See another pointless homepage at URL:http://home.pages.de/~naddy/. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Threading list subjects?
On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Ray Schultz wrote: I am reading all these messages with Eudora 3.05 on a Win95 machine and I don't think Eudora has a way to thread the subjects. Eudora does allow you to sort by subject, though. As for me, if there's a subject that I particularly want to watch, I have procmail dump it into its own folder; otherwise I just read from the top of my debian-user folder. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life is like a bad margarita with good tequila, http://squawk.klue.on.ca I thought, as I poured whiskey onto my granola Running Debian Linux 2.0 and faced a new day. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Threading list subjects?
Hi, Just try the Netscape Comunicator. It's mail (and news) program can order the messages by thread . I was very pleased by that, especially some time ago when I have had access to some news groups. Ionutz On Monday, April 06, 1998 11:58 PM, Ray Schultz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I am new to the list. I have been on for only few days and already have 75 messages from the list. Great content!! I find it difficult to follow the subject threads without them being grouped together like a newsreader. I am reading all these messages with Eudora 3.05 on a Win95 machine and I don't think Eudora has a way to thread the subjects. How are all you guys handling the subject threading deal? -- Ray Schultz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.coe.uh.edu/~rschultz/ Some people are educated beyond their intelligence. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Threading list subjects?
I use Gnus - a powerful, customizable news- and mail-reading part of emacs (and xemacs). It will thread, score, sort and do just about anything you want to your mail. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Threading list subjects?
On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Ray Schultz wrote: : Hello All, : : I am new to the list. I have been on for only few days and already have : 75 messages from the list. Great content!! : : I find it difficult to follow the subject threads without them being : grouped together like a newsreader. : I am reading all these messages with Eudora 3.05 on a Win95 machine : and I don't think Eudora has a way to thread the subjects. : : How are all you guys handling the subject threading deal? mutt does threading. There is a non-us package which also supports pgp. I think it's only available in hamm (frozen), so this might be a good time to check out the libc5 = libc6 upgrade page at http://www.debian.org/doc/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html (Of course, this assumes you're ready to start reading mail on your Linux box :) -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Threading list subjects?
On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Ray Schultz wrote: How are all you guys handling the subject threading deal? In pine I set my sort order to Ordered Subject and it sorts them by the subject line, thus putting everything with the same subject together. It's not 'real' threading but it gets the job done. l8r, Nate --- Nathan C. Burnett Everyone is born right-handed, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] only the greatest overcome it. http://www.cps.msu.edu/~burnet26-Slogan, Left-Handers' Club of Ireland ( ( (((In Stereo Where Available))) ) ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
