Re: Tips for serial terminal file transfer?
On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:36:56 +0100 Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Waddyaknow (not much, you?). PLIP works. Sorta. I get some long periods of timeout, but currently have an ssh session into the box. I don't know if this is going to be feasible... I've played a tad with plipconfig, upping nibble and trigger to 6000 and 1000 (twice their defaults) on both sides of the link. Frankly, I'm not sure if this helps or not. Hrm. Upped it again to 12000/2000. Definitely dicey. It's been years since I used PLIP, but I seem to remember that the default parallel port BIOS settings were not correct for me. I would think that those settings would be all-or-nothing, but it may be worth checking into. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tips for serial terminal file transfer?
on Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 09:46:32AM -0500, Todd Pytel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:36:56 +0100 Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Waddyaknow (not much, you?). PLIP works. Sorta. I get some long periods of timeout, but currently have an ssh session into the box. I don't know if this is going to be feasible... I've played a tad with plipconfig, upping nibble and trigger to 6000 and 1000 (twice their defaults) on both sides of the link. Frankly, I'm not sure if this helps or not. Hrm. Upped it again to 12000/2000. Definitely dicey. It's been years since I used PLIP, but I seem to remember that the default parallel port BIOS settings were not correct for me. I would think that those settings would be all-or-nothing, but it may be worth checking into. ThinkPad BIOS lets me set LP number (1,2,3), bidirectional or not. No IRQ or I/O settings. I can't upgrade BIOS w/o a power source for the box, which would cost more than it's worth. BIOS upgrade won't take if box is in docking unit. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? We freed Dmitry!Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tips for serial terminal file transfer?
on Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 08:19:33AM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:41:24PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: I'm trying to bootstrap an old 486 Thinkpad. It's got two PCMCIA slots, and might make a decent gateway. Why not run a laplink cable and run pppd at both ends? (remember to specify local to pppd). Or even plip? It won't be fast, but it should be much less cumbersome than uuenconde/shar or whatever. Waddyaknow (not much, you?). PLIP works. Sorta. I get some long periods of timeout, but currently have an ssh session into the box. I don't know if this is going to be feasible... I've played a tad with plipconfig, upping nibble and trigger to 6000 and 1000 (twice their defaults) on both sides of the link. Frankly, I'm not sure if this helps or not. Hrm. Upped it again to 12000/2000. Definitely dicey. Again, thoughts appreciated. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? Defeat EU Software Patents! http://swpat.ffii.org/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tips for serial terminal file transfer?
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 02:29:21AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 08:19:33AM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:41:24PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: I'm trying to bootstrap an old 486 Thinkpad. It's got two PCMCIA slots, and might make a decent gateway. [ getty/minicom/zmodem stuff: can't get it to work ] Why not run a laplink cable and run pppd at both ends? (remember to specify local to pppd). Or even plip? It won't be fast, but it should be much less cumbersome than uuenconde/shar or whatever. I've already tried both. Don't work :-( Hm. Since it sounds like that you have a laplink cable handy, I don't mind helping out with ppp (very remotely..). ppp symptoms? Settings? -- Karl E. Jørgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://karl.jorgensen.com Today's fortune: The good thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tips for serial terminal file transfer?
on Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 08:19:33AM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:41:24PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: I'm trying to bootstrap an old 486 Thinkpad. It's got two PCMCIA slots, and might make a decent gateway. Never throw working hardware away :-) First problem: I can't get external video off the system, not sure why. Running it through an Omniview 4-port KVM. It's an old laptop - bent pins? [ getty/minicom/zmodem stuff ] Why not run a laplink cable and run pppd at both ends? (remember to specify local to pppd). Or even plip? It won't be fast, but it should be much less cumbersome than uuenconde/shar or whatever. I've already tried both. Don't work :-( Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? At the sound of the toner, boycott Lexmark: trade restraint via DMCA. http://news.com.com/2100-1023-979791.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tips for serial terminal file transfer?
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 11:56:48PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: It would also be helpful if I could do the old trick of : cat EOFfoo file transfer EOF ...but this method performs shell expansions on the content. If you quote EOF, it doesn't: $ cat EOF $BASH_VERSION EOF 2.05b.0(1)-release $ cat 'EOF' $BASH_VERSION EOF $BASH_VERSION $ cat EOF $BASH_VERSION EOF $BASH_VERSION Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tips for serial terminal file transfer?
on Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 12:05:12AM +0100, Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 11:56:48PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: It would also be helpful if I could do the old trick of : cat EOFfoo file transfer EOF ...but this method performs shell expansions on the content. If you quote EOF, it doesn't: $ cat EOF $BASH_VERSION EOF 2.05b.0(1)-release $ cat 'EOF' $BASH_VERSION EOF $BASH_VERSION $ cat EOF $BASH_VERSION EOF $BASH_VERSION Ahhh That's _two_ things learned today. Very sweet. I still find the idea of bootstrapping a Debian system by way of uuencoded ASCII file transfers to be horribly _wrong_, but I won't complain about it. Hrm. Hrm. Yes, I suppose I could tar some large archives and do bulk transfers this way. Thanks. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? Hollings: bought, paid for, but couldn't deliver the CBDTPA: http://www.politechbot.com/docs/cbdtpa/hollings.s2048.032102.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tips for serial terminal file transfer?
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:41:24PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: I'm trying to bootstrap an old 486 Thinkpad. It's got two PCMCIA slots, and might make a decent gateway. Never throw working hardware away :-) First problem: I can't get external video off the system, not sure why. Running it through an Omniview 4-port KVM. It's an old laptop - bent pins? [ getty/minicom/zmodem stuff ] Why not run a laplink cable and run pppd at both ends? (remember to specify local to pppd). Or even plip? It won't be fast, but it should be much less cumbersome than uuenconde/shar or whatever. -- Karl E. Jørgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://karl.jorgensen.com Your eyes are weary from staring at the screen... You feel sleepy... Notice how restful it is to watch the cursor blink... Close your eyes (but keep reading)... The opinions stated above are yours. You cannot imagine why you ever felt otherwise. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tips for serial terminal file transfer?
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:41:24PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: I'm still looking for a good method for doing file transfers. I haven't used kermit, x/y/zmodem, etc., for about fifteen years, so I'm not sure what the options are here. minicom supports x/y/zmodem once you install lrzsz on both sides. I have not used it much, so I can't really tell you more, but at least a few years ago, with slackware 3.4, xmodem downloads worked. Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tips for serial terminal file transfer?
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:41:24PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: After this point, you can transfer shar archives (which use uudecode, hence the above step), allowing for ASCII mode transfers. I am missing something. Can't you uuencode every file and transfer it in the same way? I'm still looking for a good method for doing file transfers. I haven't used kermit, x/y/zmodem, etc., for about fifteen years, so I'm not sure what the options are here. I'm also wondering if there is other terminal software other than minicom I can use, preferably with color support. minicom seems to do only vt100. What about minicom -c on? $ minicom -h|grep color -c, --color=on/off : ANSI style color usage on or off -- Shaul Karl,shaulk @ actcom . net . il -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tips for serial terminal file transfer?
on Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 07:17:18PM +0300, Shaul Karl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:41:24PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
After this point, you can transfer shar archives (which use uudecode,
hence the above step), allowing for ASCII mode transfers.
I am missing something. Can't you uuencode every file and transfer it
in the same way?
I can, but it's a tad cumbersome.
The main problem is having to clear out every other line, as there's a
linefeed inserted on ASCII transfers.
I suppose I could write an awk script to handle this.
Hrm, that was easy:
cat EOFoddlines
#!/usr/bin/awk -f
{ if ( NR%2 ) {print} }
EOF
chmod +x oddlines
It would also be helpful if I could do the old trick of :
cat EOFfoo
file transfer
EOF
...but this method performs shell expansions on the content. Similarly:
echo '
file transfer
' foo
...runs into problems if the quote character is included in the
transferred content.
I'm still looking for a good method for doing file transfers. I haven't
used kermit, x/y/zmodem, etc., for about fifteen years, so I'm not sure
what the options are here.
I'm also wondering if there is other terminal software other than
minicom I can use, preferably with color support. minicom seems to do
only vt100.
What about minicom -c on?
$ minicom -h|grep color
-c, --color=on/off : ANSI style color usage on or off
Cool! That works ;-)
Peace.
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