Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-06 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 6 Apr 2014 11:21:12 +0530
Anubhav Yadav  wrote:

> > install xfce
> > run xfce
> > kill xfwm and start i3 instead ( in the same command, or you might
> > be annoyed because not having any wm will make things a lot harder
> > to control your system. ).
> 
> I killed xfwm4 using kill and killall command but xfwm4 respawns
> itself back as soon as I kill it.

I think there's an Xfce setting to tell what window manager you want to
use with it, and if I'm correct about that, there's no need to kill one
and start the other every time.

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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-05 Thread Anubhav Yadav
> install xfce
> run xfce
> kill xfwm and start i3 instead ( in the same command, or you might be
> annoyed because not having any wm will make things a lot harder to control
> your system. ).

I killed xfwm4 using kill and killall command but xfwm4 respawns itself back as
soon as I kill it.
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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-03 Thread berenger . morel



Le 02.04.2014 17:11, Anubhav Yadav a écrit :

I just took a moment to read your 2nd initial post. The errors you
get when starting it as root are probably because the default
configuration is to not accept ( via policy kit I guess ) using 
this

applet as root. VLC have the same kind of restrictions.

The question is, why when you start it a



Humpf... sorry for the truncated mail... I just hit the tab key just 
before

space, and it send the mail...


The same thing happened to me and hence I had to send the second
mail. I just hope that other guys are getting to read the second 
mail.


so: The question is, why when you start it as a normal user? The 
package
depends on lot of things ( well...gnome's bloatwares often does... ) 
, if

one of those is not started correctly, it might cause the error.
We know that it's not dbus, but IIRC, gconf, keyring, notify, and 
other

stuff like that are runnable softwares. Are they started correctly?


I will just run ps aux | grep "command" to see if they are started
correctly or
not. Is there is any other better way to see if they are started 
correctly or

not.



I usually use "$ps -A|grep foobar" and have no idea about what does 
"$ps aux", except that, according to the man:


Note that "ps -aux" is distinct from "ps aux".  The POSIX and UNIX 
standards require that "ps -aux" print all
processes owned by a user named "x", as well as printing all processes 
that would be selected by the -a
option.  If the user named "x" does not exist, this ps may interpret 
the command as "ps aux" instead and
print a warning.  This behavior is intended to aid in transitioning old 
scripts and habits.  **It is fragile,

subject to change, and thus should not be relied upon.**

Anyway, it simply shows if they are started, so probably not good. 
There is the top command, too, which may help you.
Otherwise, since they are, probably, daemons, you can use the command 
"$/usr/sbin/service --status-all".


Another alternative ( quite useful for gdb ), would be to use "$pidof 
foobar", but I do not know if it can find stuff the owner does not own ( 
so, you could only see root pids if you are logged as root, AFAIK ).


You can also look at dmesg or their logs.


neo1691@Innovator:~$ ps aux | grep gconf
neo1691   5202  0.0  0.0  53144  2516 ?S20:26   0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gconf/gconfd-2

neo1691@Innovator:~$ ps aux | grep keyring
neo1691   6255  0.0  0.0  15296  1036 pts/1S+   20:38   0:00 grep
--color=auto keyring
so keyring is not there, I remember I stopped the keyring service
because it was bringing up
the gnome-keyring warning whenever I used to run git commands.


Strange that it interacts with git... anyway, could you try to run it 
for testing purpose?




neo1691@Innovator:~$ ps aux | grep notify
root33  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S20:19   0:00
[fsnotify_mark]
neo1691   6323  0.0  0.0  15300  1032 pts/1S+   20:39   0:00 grep
--color=auto notify




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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-03 Thread berenger . morel



Le 02.04.2014 19:55, Anubhav Yadav a écrit :

Oh, apparently you use sudo to start nm-applet.

You really shouldn't do that. All the D-Bus and GConf related error
messages etc are because you are trying to start it as root from 
within

a user session.

I'd probably try with another desktop environment. Maybe it's 
actually
an issue with i3 or more specifically i3bar not showing the 
notification

icon of nm-applet.


And yes xfce, and nm-applet is already there in the xfce4 panel. And
then If I run nm-applet again in a terminal in xfce session, it adds 
another
nm-applet there on the xfce panel. So I guess yes, something is wrong 
with

i3


Not really.
You are comparing two different things.
XFCE is a desktop environment, built for people who want lightweight 
but very easy to use systems.


i3 is a window manager ( the equivalent of xfwm IIRC ), designed for 
people which are not simple users, but programmers, system 
administrators, and other sorts of computing geeks.


i3 will only manage windows, for you. It handles various applets 
perfectly, but not the one you are trying to use. The one you are trying 
to use, depends of stuff like dbus, policykit, etc, which are not easy 
to configure.

A failure in i3 is possible, of course, but... let's try this:

install xfce
run xfce
kill xfwm and start i3 instead ( in the same command, or you might be 
annoyed because not having any wm will make things a lot harder to 
control your system. ).


then, start the applet. Like this, you'll know if the problem is i3, or 
a wrong configuration. ( I think there is a specific command to replace 
a wm with another one, but I can't remember which one )



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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread Anubhav Yadav
> Oh, apparently you use sudo to start nm-applet.
>
> You really shouldn't do that. All the D-Bus and GConf related error
> messages etc are because you are trying to start it as root from within
> a user session.
>
> I'd probably try with another desktop environment. Maybe it's actually
> an issue with i3 or more specifically i3bar not showing the notification
> icon of nm-applet.

And yes xfce, and nm-applet is already there in the xfce4 panel. And
then If I run nm-applet again in a terminal in xfce session, it adds another
nm-applet there on the xfce panel. So I guess yes, something is wrong with
i3

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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread Anubhav Yadav
> What theme are you using?
> Does it help if you use the default Adwaita theme (gnome-themes-standard)?

I am using the Elegant_Revisited theme , the warning comes with all
the other gtk applications.
>
>> ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area
>
> Is nm-applet still running?
> Can you strace it and see if that reveals anything.

Yes the applet is still running, I need to send the interrupt ctrl-c to kill it.
How can I use strace? I have no idea what is it!

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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 02.04.2014 17:50, schrieb Anubhav Yadav:
>> That looks ok.
>> I completely missed though that apparently nm-applet complains about a
>> missing session id for uid=0.
>>
>> I hope you aren't trying to run it as root?
> 
> No, I just ran nm-applet as normal user, as sudo and as root, to show
> the different
> log messages. But yes I want to run it as a normal user.
> 
> In that case, the output is
> 
> (nm-applet:8313): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
> gnome-applications.css:86:22: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming
> 'px'.
> 
> (nm-applet:8313): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
> gnome-applications.css:87:19: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming
> 'px'.
> 
> (nm-applet:8313): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
> gnome-applications.css:110:19: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming
> 'px'.
> 
> (nm-applet:8313): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
> gnome-applications.css:110:21: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming
> 'px'.

What theme are you using?
Does it help if you use the default Adwaita theme (gnome-themes-standard)?

> ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area

Is nm-applet still running?
Can you strace it and see if that reveals anything.


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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread Anubhav Yadav
> That looks ok.
> I completely missed though that apparently nm-applet complains about a
> missing session id for uid=0.
>
> I hope you aren't trying to run it as root?

No, I just ran nm-applet as normal user, as sudo and as root, to show
the different
log messages. But yes I want to run it as a normal user.

In that case, the output is

(nm-applet:8313): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
gnome-applications.css:86:22: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming
'px'.

(nm-applet:8313): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
gnome-applications.css:87:19: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming
'px'.

(nm-applet:8313): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
gnome-applications.css:110:19: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming
'px'.

(nm-applet:8313): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
gnome-applications.css:110:21: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming
'px'.
...
...
...
...

** Message: applet now removed from the notification area



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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 02.04.2014 17:45, schrieb Michael Biebl:
> Am 02.04.2014 17:14, schrieb Anubhav Yadav:
>>> And please attach the ck-list-sessions output for completeness sake.
>>
>> ck-list-sessions
>> Session5:
>> unix-user = '1000'
>> realname = 'Anubhav'
>> seat = 'Seat1'
>> session-type = ''
>> active = TRUE
>> x11-display = ':0'
>> x11-display-device = '/dev/tty7'
>> display-device = '/dev/tty1'
>> remote-host-name = ''
>> is-local = TRUE
>> on-since = '2014-04-02T14:53:20.817379Z'
>> login-session-id = '3'
> 
> That looks ok.
> I completely missed though that apparently nm-applet complains about a
> missing session id for uid=0.
> 
> I hope you aren't trying to run it as root?

Oh, apparently you use sudo to start nm-applet.

You really shouldn't do that. All the D-Bus and GConf related error
messages etc are because you are trying to start it as root from within
a user session.

I'd probably try with another desktop environment. Maybe it's actually
an issue with i3 or more specifically i3bar not showing the notification
icon of nm-applet.


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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 02.04.2014 17:14, schrieb Anubhav Yadav:
>> And please attach the ck-list-sessions output for completeness sake.
> 
> ck-list-sessions
> Session5:
> unix-user = '1000'
> realname = 'Anubhav'
> seat = 'Seat1'
> session-type = ''
> active = TRUE
> x11-display = ':0'
> x11-display-device = '/dev/tty7'
> display-device = '/dev/tty1'
> remote-host-name = ''
> is-local = TRUE
> on-since = '2014-04-02T14:53:20.817379Z'
> login-session-id = '3'

That looks ok.
I completely missed though that apparently nm-applet complains about a
missing session id for uid=0.

I hope you aren't trying to run it as root?



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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread Anubhav Yadav
> And please attach the ck-list-sessions output for completeness sake.

ck-list-sessions
Session5:
unix-user = '1000'
realname = 'Anubhav'
seat = 'Seat1'
session-type = ''
active = TRUE
x11-display = ':0'
x11-display-device = '/dev/tty7'
display-device = '/dev/tty1'
remote-host-name = ''
is-local = TRUE
on-since = '2014-04-02T14:53:20.817379Z'
login-session-id = '3'
Session2:
unix-user = '1000'
realname = 'Anubhav'
seat = 'Seat1'
session-type = ''
active = FALSE
x11-display = ''
x11-display-device = ''
display-device = '/dev/tty1'
remote-host-name = ''
is-local = TRUE
on-since = '2014-04-02T14:51:39.700753Z'
login-session-id = '4294967295'

> You also need to make sure to have PolicyKit agent running in your
> session. KDE and GNOME have them integrated in their desktop shell.
> There a stand-alone versions like policykit-1-gnome or mate-polkit which
> you can use, though


neo1691@Innovator:~$ ps aux | grep policykit
root  3162  0.0  0.0 131964  4236 ?Sl   20:20   0:00
/usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug
neo1691   6444  0.0  0.0  15300  1036 pts/1S+   20:42   0:00 grep
--color=auto policykit

So I assume that it is running.

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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread Anubhav Yadav
>> I just took a moment to read your 2nd initial post. The errors you
>> get when starting it as root are probably because the default
>> configuration is to not accept ( via policy kit I guess ) using this
>> applet as root. VLC have the same kind of restrictions.
>>
>> The question is, why when you start it a
>
>
> Humpf... sorry for the truncated mail... I just hit the tab key just before
> space, and it send the mail...

The same thing happened to me and hence I had to send the second
mail. I just hope that other guys are getting to read the second mail.

> so: The question is, why when you start it as a normal user? The package
> depends on lot of things ( well...gnome's bloatwares often does... ) , if
> one of those is not started correctly, it might cause the error.
> We know that it's not dbus, but IIRC, gconf, keyring, notify, and other
> stuff like that are runnable softwares. Are they started correctly?

I will just run ps aux | grep "command" to see if they are started correctly or
not. Is there is any other better way to see if they are started correctly or
not.

neo1691@Innovator:~$ ps aux | grep gconf
neo1691   5202  0.0  0.0  53144  2516 ?S20:26   0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gconf/gconfd-2

neo1691@Innovator:~$ ps aux | grep keyring
neo1691   6255  0.0  0.0  15296  1036 pts/1S+   20:38   0:00 grep
--color=auto keyring
so keyring is not there, I remember I stopped the keyring service
because it was bringing up
the gnome-keyring warning whenever I used to run git commands.

neo1691@Innovator:~$ ps aux | grep notify
root33  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S20:19   0:00 [fsnotify_mark]
neo1691   6323  0.0  0.0  15300  1032 pts/1S+   20:39   0:00 grep
--color=auto notify




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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread Anubhav Yadav
> You need an active ConsoleKit session (if you run stable) or a logind
> session (if you run unstable). Apparently this is not the case

> Assuming you run unstable, do you have libpam-systemd installed? What's
> the output of "loginctl list-sessions"?

Hi, I am running stable debian wheezy 64 bit. Sorry for not putting
that up in the OP
loginctl is not available in stable repositories.

and libpam-systemd is not installed on my system although it is
available in the stable
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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 02.04.2014 16:34, schrieb Michael Biebl:
> Please always mention if you run stable, testing or sid and the versions
> of the packages.
> 
> Am 02.04.2014 00:23, schrieb Anubhav Yadav:
>> ** (nm-applet:19095): WARNING **: Failed to register as an agent: (32)
>> No session found for uid 0
> 
> You need an active ConsoleKit session (if you run stable) or a logind
> session (if you run unstable). Apparently this is not the case
> 
> Assuming you run unstable, do you have libpam-systemd installed? What's
> the output of "loginctl list-sessions"?

And please attach the ck-list-sessions output for completeness sake.

You also need to make sure to have PolicyKit agent running in your
session. KDE and GNOME have them integrated in their desktop shell.
There a stand-alone versions like policykit-1-gnome or mate-polkit which
you can use, though


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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread berenger . morel



Le 02.04.2014 16:37, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit :

Le 02.04.2014 16:03, Anubhav Yadav a écrit :
dbus daemon is not something you start by hand, and not something 
that a

window manager have to handle.

To know if dbus is started, the easier is to run this command:
"$/usr/sbin/service dbus status".


[ ok ] dbus is running


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I just took a moment to read your 2nd initial post. The errors you
get when starting it as root are probably because the default
configuration is to not accept ( via policy kit I guess ) using this
applet as root. VLC have the same kind of restrictions.

The question is, why when you start it a


Humpf... sorry for the truncated mail... I just hit the tab key just 
before space, and it send the mail...


so: The question is, why when you start it as a normal user? The 
package depends on lot of things ( well...gnome's bloatwares often 
does... ) , if one of those is not started correctly, it might cause the 
error.
We know that it's not dbus, but IIRC, gconf, keyring, notify, and other 
stuff like that are runnable softwares. Are they started correctly?



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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread berenger . morel

Le 02.04.2014 16:03, Anubhav Yadav a écrit :
dbus daemon is not something you start by hand, and not something 
that a

window manager have to handle.

To know if dbus is started, the easier is to run this command:
"$/usr/sbin/service dbus status".


[ ok ] dbus is running


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I just took a moment to read your 2nd initial post. The errors you get 
when starting it as root are probably because the default configuration 
is to not accept ( via policy kit I guess ) using this applet as root. 
VLC have the same kind of restrictions.


The question is, why when you start it a


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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread Michael Biebl
Please always mention if you run stable, testing or sid and the versions
of the packages.

Am 02.04.2014 00:23, schrieb Anubhav Yadav:
> ** (nm-applet:19095): WARNING **: Failed to register as an agent: (32)
> No session found for uid 0

You need an active ConsoleKit session (if you run stable) or a logind
session (if you run unstable). Apparently this is not the case

Assuming you run unstable, do you have libpam-systemd installed? What's
the output of "loginctl list-sessions"?



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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread Anubhav Yadav
> dbus daemon is not something you start by hand, and not something that a
> window manager have to handle.
>
> To know if dbus is started, the easier is to run this command:
> "$/usr/sbin/service dbus status".

[ ok ] dbus is running


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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread berenger . morel



Le 02.04.2014 15:25, Anubhav Yadav a écrit :

Seems like problems related to D-Bus. Either it's not started at all
(check 'ps aux') or your session is not setup with the necessary
privileges to access D-Bus. How do you start i3?


I use lightdm. It starts i3. In /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf I have set
the option
'user-session=i3' so that by default i3 is selected in the session
menu of lightdm
and not xfce, or default xsession.

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dbus daemon is not something you start by hand, and not something that 
a window manager have to handle.


To know if dbus is started, the easier is to run this command: 
"$/usr/sbin/service dbus status".



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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread Anubhav Yadav
> Seems like problems related to D-Bus. Either it's not started at all
> (check 'ps aux') or your session is not setup with the necessary
> privileges to access D-Bus. How do you start i3?

I use lightdm. It starts i3. In /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf I have set the option
'user-session=i3' so that by default i3 is selected in the session
menu of lightdm
and not xfce, or default xsession.

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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 02 apr 14, 03:53:50, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> Hi, I am using i3 windows manager and I need nm-applet to show in
> i3status bar. I have added this line in my ~/.i3/config
... 
> ** (nm-applet:19416): WARNING **: Failed to initialize D-Bus: Did not
> receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did
> not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply,
> the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
> 
> (nm-applet:19416): GConf-WARNING **: Directory `/apps/nm-applet' was
> not being monitored by GConfClient 0x2510760

Seems like problems related to D-Bus. Either it's not started at all 
(check 'ps aux') or your session is not setup with the necessary 
privileges to access D-Bus. How do you start i3?

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 02 apr 14, 05:20:28, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> > If you don't need the VPN support that nm has, take a look at wicd.  Wicd
> > has the advantage of also having a cli and a curses interface.
> 
> Hi, thanks for helping me out, I tried wicd.
> But wicd only contained a gui to manage wireless networks, not wireless.

I'm guessing you meant wired (not wireless) and last time I used it it 
did manage that as well.

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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-01 Thread Anubhav Yadav
> If you don't need the VPN support that nm has, take a look at wicd.  Wicd
> has the advantage of also having a cli and a curses interface.

Hi, thanks for helping me out, I tried wicd.
But wicd only contained a gui to manage wireless networks, not wireless.

And I am looking an alternative for something like the xfce-panel network
applet, through which I can switch between my various profiles for
eth0 and also switch different wifi networks!


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Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Apr 1, 2014 5:24 PM, "Anubhav Yadav"  wrote:

> Any help. Sorry for the incomplete first message in the thread.

If you don't need the VPN support that nm has, take a look at wicd.  Wicd
has the advantage of also having a cli and a curses interface.


Re: Unable to start nm-applet

2014-04-01 Thread Anubhav Yadav
Hi, I am using i3 windows manager and I need nm-applet to show in
i3status bar. I have added this line in my ~/.i3/config

exec --no-startup-id nm-applet

Also NetworkManager is running in the background.

If I start nm-applet as a normal user, I get lot of gtk theme warnings
regarding px, and then one final message

** Message: applet now removed from the notification area:

Here the process is still waiting to be finished but nothing happens,
so I need to press ctrl-c to interrupt.

If I run the command with sudo ie sudo nm-applet I get no gtk warnings
but I get this:

** Message: applet now removed from the notification area

** (nm-applet:19095): WARNING **: Failed to register as an agent: (32)
No session found for uid 0

And if I login as root, and run nm-applet, I get this:

(nm-applet:19416): GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the
D-BUS daemon:
Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote
application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy
blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network
connection was broken.
GConf Error: No D-BUS daemon running


** (nm-applet:19416): WARNING **: Failed to initialize D-Bus: Did not
receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did
not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply,
the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.

(nm-applet:19416): GConf-WARNING **: Directory `/apps/nm-applet' was
not being monitored by GConfClient 0x2510760

Any help. Sorry for the incomplete first message in the thread.


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