Re: Vim 5.0 package and compile-time options in packages

1998-03-23 Thread David Sewell
On Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 02:33:36PM -0500, Scott McDermott wrote:
> David Sewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 11:43:49AM -0700:
> > A Debian package of 5.0 has just been released, something a lot of
> > users were eagerly waiting for. Earlier today I installed it, and
> > was disappointed to discover that GUI support was not enabled, as it
> > had been in the 4.6 Debian package.
> 
> Isn't the GUI stuff in separate executables, g* ?

No, "gvim" is just a symbolic link to "vim", but VIM treats that command
name as equivalent to "vim -g", invoking the GUI version (assuming it's
available).


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Re: Vim 5.0 package and compile-time options in packages

1998-03-23 Thread Scott McDermott
David Sewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 11:43:49AM -0700:
> A Debian package of 5.0 has just been released, something a lot of
> users were eagerly waiting for. Earlier today I installed it, and
> was disappointed to discover that GUI support was not enabled, as it
> had been in the 4.6 Debian package.

Isn't the GUI stuff in separate executables, g* ?

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Re: VIM 5.0

1998-03-14 Thread David Sewell
On Sat, Mar 07, 1998 at 06:53:53PM -0500, Scott McDermott wrote:
> Martin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat, Mar 07, 1998 at 12:30:35PM -0600:
> > Are there plans to include VIM 5.0 in the release version of hamm?  It has
> > been released for a while, but I haven't seen it in the update
> > announcements.  Does it currently have a maintainer?
> 
> It is in beta, and the revisions change quickly.  I just compiled 5.0x
> less than a week ago and, checking the ftp site...oh, well it's still
> 5.0x but that's rare, usually it changes like every 2 minutes :)

The VIM package maintainer is Galen Hazelwood, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I sent him email back in December about VIM 5, and he had this to say:

   There's a serious problem with packaging these vim betas.  Bram made
   an incredibly stupid decision when he began using postfix letters to
   denote test versions.  The problem is that if I package 5.0s, and
   upload it, people will install it.  When the official 5.0 is
   released, called 5.0, and I package that, it looks like a downgrade
   to dpkg and dselect.  That's really bad, because it means people who
   use automatic download systems (dftp or dpkg-ftp) will never see it.
   The only way around that would be to use epochs, and I regard epochs
   as a last resort solution.

   However, I'm keeping up with the vim sources, and will package a
   release as soon as possible.

So the question would seem to be, is 5.0 now genuinely a release version
without postfix letters, or does the problem Galen alludes to still
exist?
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Re: VIM 5.0

1998-03-14 Thread Adam Klein
On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 11:09:08AM -0700, David Sewell wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 07, 1998 at 06:53:53PM -0500, Scott McDermott wrote:
> > Martin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat, Mar 07, 1998 at 12:30:35PM -0600:
> > > Are there plans to include VIM 5.0 in the release version of hamm?  It has
> > > been released for a while, but I haven't seen it in the update
> > > announcements.  Does it currently have a maintainer?
> > 
> > It is in beta, and the revisions change quickly.  I just compiled 5.0x
> > less than a week ago and, checking the ftp site...oh, well it's still
> > 5.0x but that's rare, usually it changes like every 2 minutes :)
> 
> The VIM package maintainer is Galen Hazelwood, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I sent him email back in December about VIM 5, and he had this to say:
> 
>There's a serious problem with packaging these vim betas.  Bram made
>an incredibly stupid decision when he began using postfix letters to
>denote test versions.  The problem is that if I package 5.0s, and
>upload it, people will install it.  When the official 5.0 is
>released, called 5.0, and I package that, it looks like a downgrade
>to dpkg and dselect.  That's really bad, because it means people who
>use automatic download systems (dftp or dpkg-ftp) will never see it.
>The only way around that would be to use epochs, and I regard epochs
>as a last resort solution.
> 
>However, I'm keeping up with the vim sources, and will package a
>release as soon as possible.
> 
> So the question would seem to be, is 5.0 now genuinely a release version
> without postfix letters, or does the problem Galen alludes to still
> exist?

Yes, 5.0 is an official release.  The tgz file on the FTP server is
called "vim-5.0.tar.gz".

Adam Klein


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Re: VIM 5.0

1998-03-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Scott McDermott hat gesagt: // Scott McDermott wrote:

> Martin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat, Mar 07, 1998 at 12:30:35PM -0600:
> > Are there plans to include VIM 5.0 in the release version of hamm?  It has
> > been released for a while, but I haven't seen it in the update
> > announcements.  Does it currently have a maintainer?
> 
> It is in beta, and the revisions change quickly.  I just compiled 5.0x
> less than a week ago and, checking the ftp site...oh, well it's still
> 5.0x but that's rare, usually it changes like every 2 minutes :)
> 

But it is very usable. I am using VIM - Vi IMproved 5.0p ALPHA from Oct. 97 
for some time now and it never crashed on me. I would love to see an official 
debian package of Vim-5 in Debian 2.0, because it's a damn good editor, 
by far my favourite one. I should mail to "work needing and etc. packages" now
I think.
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Re: VIM 5.0

1998-03-08 Thread Adam Klein
On Sat, Mar 07, 1998 at 06:53:53PM -0500, Scott McDermott wrote:
> Martin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat, Mar 07, 1998 at 12:30:35PM -0600:
> > Are there plans to include VIM 5.0 in the release version of hamm?  It has
> > been released for a while, but I haven't seen it in the update
> > announcements.  Does it currently have a maintainer?
> 
> It is in beta, and the revisions change quickly.  I just compiled 5.0x
> less than a week ago and, checking the ftp site...oh, well it's still
> 5.0x but that's rare, usually it changes like every 2 minutes :)

You must be looking at a different place than me.  From the vim web
site at www.vim.org:

VIM Versions:
VIM-5 Latest version:   VIM-5.0 released on 980219 [Feb 19 1998]

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Re: VIM 5.0

1998-03-08 Thread Scott McDermott
Martin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat, Mar 07, 1998 at 12:30:35PM -0600:
> Are there plans to include VIM 5.0 in the release version of hamm?  It has
> been released for a while, but I haven't seen it in the update
> announcements.  Does it currently have a maintainer?

It is in beta, and the revisions change quickly.  I just compiled 5.0x
less than a week ago and, checking the ftp site...oh, well it's still
5.0x but that's rare, usually it changes like every 2 minutes :)

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XFree86 3.2.2 (was: Re: VIM 5.0)

1998-03-07 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, Martin Jackson wrote:

> Are there plans to include VIM 5.0 in the release version of hamm?  It has
> been released for a while, but I haven't seen it in the update
> announcements.  Does it currently have a maintainer?

A question related to this: Will XFree86 3.3.2 be included? I have heard
it was released last Friday.

Remco


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