Re: Voodoo 3 2000
I haven't tried the 4.0 server with my Voodoo card yet - just the Mach64. And unfortunately, I don't quite remember what went on with the config file. As far as I remember, it updated it automatically - but I could be completely wrong here. I'm pretty sure that XF4.0 can't read XF3.3.x config files. The thing that I remember is that XF4.0 expects the config file in /etc/XF86Config (as opposed to /etc/X11/XF86Config) and the installation of XF4.0 didn't move it over automatically. If I were you and wanted to try 4.0, I would definitely make a backup. I haven't had any troubles with my current installation, but some people obviously couldn't get it to work at all and had to revert to 3.3.x. HTH, Juergen robert_wilhelm_land wrote: > Thanks for the URL Juergen, should be a great help for the near > future. > Did the update to xfree 4.0.x destroy your 3.3.6 configuration, > precisely - can I choose between both in the startx script? > > The magazin C'T (www.heise.de) had a article recently about this > subject and reporting > having trouble with the VooDoo (2,3) cards. > Hopefuly they managed a workaround. > If you don't happen to find it on their server contact me - I'll have > a look in the past 7 magazines. > > Robert
Re: Voodoo 3 2000
Colin Watson wrote: > Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >The first time I tried to install Debian on that machine, I installed > >the base system from floppies. Then, when I tried to install X by > >issuing an 'apt-get install task-x-window-system', I got an internal > >error after downloading the necessary files (if I was still at a > >download speed <=56K, the machine wouldn't be in one piece anymore, > >making my question moot). I think I'll obtain a CD and try again. > > OK, annoying, but still nothing to do with the card :-) As for the initial debian install - I had the same problems as Juergen. After using dselect again and insuring no broken dependancies, Xfree setup worked reliable (in case of my ATI 128) and the server appears to be very fast. The videocard chip is recognized by the server. > >But say, don't you have to specify the card you want to use when you > >set the X system up? Or did Debian autoprobe your Voodoo card? If you > >actually had to specify a card, which one did you pick? > > Haven't a clue, I'm afraid. I got my Voodoo card long after installing > Debian, and judging from /etc/X11/XF86Config I just re-ran xf86config. I > have the following Device section: > > # Device configured by xf86config: > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Voodoo3 (generic)" > VendorName "3dfx" > BoardName "Voodoo3 2000" > #VideoRam16384 > # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate > EndSection > > -- > Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you talking about Xfree 3.3.x? People buying VooDoo cards usualy intend to play games :) and may want to use OpenGL Robert
Re: Voodoo 3 2000
Juergen Fiedler wrote: > I think I know that one: XFree 4.0.x didn't make it onto the CD's. I'm using > it on my > laptop (ATI Mach 64 > LE) and it works quite nicely. I get it via apt-get with the following > sources: > > deb http://samosa.debian.org/%7Ebranden/ woody/$(ARCH)/ > deb-src http://samosa.debian.org/%7Ebranden/ woody/source/ > > As to the Voodoo 3 drivers for 4.0: They scare me. The description on their > site seems to > indicate that games that rely on glide won't work with this server - and what > would be the > point in getting a Voodoo card if I can't play most of the games that I got > it for in the > first place? > Please correct me if I'm wrong about this (Please! I would really love to be > wrong!). Thanks for the URL Juergen, should be a great help for the near future. Did the update to xfree 4.0.x destroy your 3.3.6 configuration, precisely - can I choose between both in the startx script? The magazin C'T (www.heise.de) had a article recently about this subject and reporting having trouble with the VooDoo (2,3) cards. Hopefuly they managed a workaround. If you don't happen to find it on their server contact me - I'll have a look in the past 7 magazines. Robert
Re: Voodoo 3 2000
Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The first time I tried to install Debian on that machine, I installed >the base system from floppies. Then, when I tried to install X by >issuing an 'apt-get install task-x-window-system', I got an internal >error after downloading the necessary files (if I was still at a >download speed <=56K, the machine wouldn't be in one piece anymore, >making my question moot). I think I'll obtain a CD and try again. OK, annoying, but still nothing to do with the card :-) >But say, don't you have to specify the card you want to use when you >set the X system up? Or did Debian autoprobe your Voodoo card? If you >actually had to specify a card, which one did you pick? Haven't a clue, I'm afraid. I got my Voodoo card long after installing Debian, and judging from /etc/X11/XF86Config I just re-ran xf86config. I have the following Device section: # Device configured by xf86config: Section "Device" Identifier "Voodoo3 (generic)" VendorName "3dfx" BoardName "Voodoo3 2000" #VideoRam16384 # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate EndSection -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voodoo 3 2000
I am not sure how it works with XF86Setup, but basically you have to tell it to use XF86_SVGA (or something like that), if you see the voodoo card on the list, pick it (it might say banshee/voodoo III or something like that), otherwise just pick svga (generic), that should work. there are some special servers for other cards (e.g. XF86_S3 for S3 based cards) but voodoo (and some other cards) is handled by svga server (not sure why). so you won't find XF86_3dfx of anything like that. once you have configured the X, check if it recognizes the card as 3dfx card (the output of X on the console where you run startx), if you use xdm you can find output of X somewhere, I forgot where, but you can always start another server: startx -- :1 >& startx.log # for csh and derivatives) startx -- :1 > startx.log 2>&1 # for sh and derivatives (including bash) then view startx.log and look for the chip name, the X server would be probably on ctrl-alt-F8 (the first one is usually on ctrl-alt-F7) hope this helps erik Juergen Fiedler wrote: > > I meant to ask whether I have to select a specific card during the initial > Debian install > - if I want to set up X right from the start. I guess I could try to set it > up later and > perhaps configure it with XF86Setup. I never set X up maunally - and I'd > rather wait with > that until I really know Linux inside out. > > Thanks, > Juergen > > Erik Steffl wrote: > > > use svga server, it recognizes the voodoo card (automatically, you > > don't need to specify it), when you run X, it should say the name of the > > chip recognized... > > > > erik > > > > Juergen Fiedler wrote: > > > > > > The first time I tried to install Debian on that machine, I installed the > > > base system > > > from floppies. Then, when I tried to install X by issuing an 'apt-get > > > install > > > task-x-window-system', I got an internal error after downloading the > > > necessary files > > > (if I was still at a download speed <=56K, the machine wouldn't be in > > > one piece > > > anymore, making my question moot). I think I'll obtain a CD and try again. > > > But say, don't you have to specify the card you want to use when you set > > > the X system > > > up? Or did Debian autoprobe your Voodoo card? If you actually had to > > > specify a card, > > > which one did you pick? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Juergen > > > > > > Colin Watson wrote: > > > > > > > Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >I am trying to get a Voodoo 3 2000 to run under Debian 2.2 - with the > > > > >added bonus that this instance would have to run on a 300Mhz AMD K6. Is > > > > >there a way to do it or should I just return the card? > > > > > > > > It just works on my Debian unstable box, and worked when unstable was > > > > potato too, when using the SVGA X server. (Although I have lingering > > > > problems with GL support, but as my monitor is in a less than perfect > > > > condition at the moment this is the least of my worries ...) > > > > > > > > I'd say the processor is irrelevant to the graphics card support here, > > > > unless I'm missing something. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Voodoo 3 2000
I meant to ask whether I have to select a specific card during the initial Debian install - if I want to set up X right from the start. I guess I could try to set it up later and perhaps configure it with XF86Setup. I never set X up maunally - and I'd rather wait with that until I really know Linux inside out. Thanks, Juergen Erik Steffl wrote: > use svga server, it recognizes the voodoo card (automatically, you > don't need to specify it), when you run X, it should say the name of the > chip recognized... > > erik > > Juergen Fiedler wrote: > > > > The first time I tried to install Debian on that machine, I installed the > > base system > > from floppies. Then, when I tried to install X by issuing an 'apt-get > > install > > task-x-window-system', I got an internal error after downloading the > > necessary files > > (if I was still at a download speed <=56K, the machine wouldn't be in one > > piece > > anymore, making my question moot). I think I'll obtain a CD and try again. > > But say, don't you have to specify the card you want to use when you set > > the X system > > up? Or did Debian autoprobe your Voodoo card? If you actually had to > > specify a card, > > which one did you pick? > > > > Thanks, > > Juergen > > > > Colin Watson wrote: > > > > > Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >I am trying to get a Voodoo 3 2000 to run under Debian 2.2 - with the > > > >added bonus that this instance would have to run on a 300Mhz AMD K6. Is > > > >there a way to do it or should I just return the card? > > > > > > It just works on my Debian unstable box, and worked when unstable was > > > potato too, when using the SVGA X server. (Although I have lingering > > > problems with GL support, but as my monitor is in a less than perfect > > > condition at the moment this is the least of my worries ...) > > > > > > I'd say the processor is irrelevant to the graphics card support here, > > > unless I'm missing something. > > > > > > -- > > > Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Voodoo 3 2000
use svga server, it recognizes the voodoo card (automatically, you don't need to specify it), when you run X, it should say the name of the chip recognized... erik Juergen Fiedler wrote: > > The first time I tried to install Debian on that machine, I installed the > base system > from floppies. Then, when I tried to install X by issuing an 'apt-get install > task-x-window-system', I got an internal error after downloading the > necessary files > (if I was still at a download speed <=56K, the machine wouldn't be in one > piece > anymore, making my question moot). I think I'll obtain a CD and try again. > But say, don't you have to specify the card you want to use when you set the > X system > up? Or did Debian autoprobe your Voodoo card? If you actually had to specify > a card, > which one did you pick? > > Thanks, > Juergen > > Colin Watson wrote: > > > Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I am trying to get a Voodoo 3 2000 to run under Debian 2.2 - with the > > >added bonus that this instance would have to run on a 300Mhz AMD K6. Is > > >there a way to do it or should I just return the card? > > > > It just works on my Debian unstable box, and worked when unstable was > > potato too, when using the SVGA X server. (Although I have lingering > > problems with GL support, but as my monitor is in a less than perfect > > condition at the moment this is the least of my worries ...) > > > > I'd say the processor is irrelevant to the graphics card support here, > > unless I'm missing something. > > > > -- > > Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Voodoo 3 2000
> The first time I tried to install Debian on that machine, I installed the > base system > from floppies. Then, when I tried to install X by issuing an 'apt-get install > task-x-window-system', I got an internal error after downloading the > necessary files > (if I was still at a download speed <=56K, the machine wouldn't be in one > piece > anymore, making my question moot). I think I'll obtain a CD and try again. > But say, don't you have to specify the card you want to use when you set the > X system > up? Or did Debian autoprobe your Voodoo card? If you actually had to specify > a card, > which one did you pick? > > Thanks, > Juergen I thought 3dfx has drivers for using XFree 4.0.x? Could someone kindly point out which CD in the 2.2 distr containes the XFree 4.0.x packages? I'm using 3.3.6 with a ATI Rage 128 and this server works indeed very well but lacks OpenGL support. Robert
Re: Voodoo 3 2000
The first time I tried to install Debian on that machine, I installed the base system from floppies. Then, when I tried to install X by issuing an 'apt-get install task-x-window-system', I got an internal error after downloading the necessary files (if I was still at a download speed <=56K, the machine wouldn't be in one piece anymore, making my question moot). I think I'll obtain a CD and try again. But say, don't you have to specify the card you want to use when you set the X system up? Or did Debian autoprobe your Voodoo card? If you actually had to specify a card, which one did you pick? Thanks, Juergen Colin Watson wrote: > Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I am trying to get a Voodoo 3 2000 to run under Debian 2.2 - with the > >added bonus that this instance would have to run on a 300Mhz AMD K6. Is > >there a way to do it or should I just return the card? > > It just works on my Debian unstable box, and worked when unstable was > potato too, when using the SVGA X server. (Although I have lingering > problems with GL support, but as my monitor is in a less than perfect > condition at the moment this is the least of my worries ...) > > I'd say the processor is irrelevant to the graphics card support here, > unless I'm missing something. > > -- > Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Voodoo 3 2000
Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am trying to get a Voodoo 3 2000 to run under Debian 2.2 - with the >added bonus that this instance would have to run on a 300Mhz AMD K6. Is >there a way to do it or should I just return the card? It just works on my Debian unstable box, and worked when unstable was potato too, when using the SVGA X server. (Although I have lingering problems with GL support, but as my monitor is in a less than perfect condition at the moment this is the least of my worries ...) I'd say the processor is irrelevant to the graphics card support here, unless I'm missing something. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
