Re: Which version of X should I use?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 08:32:06PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > I'm re-installing Debian on a system. > > I tried this last month and ran into trouble with the video card (ATI Radeon > All-In-Wonder). It turns out the version of X in the current stable branch > does not support my card well. The previous version supported it and 4.2 > supports it. > > So am I better off going into testing and getting X 4.2, Not unless you want to run testing. > or going backward to > 3.x (I can't remember the exact number of the last 3.x version)? 3.3.6 was yucky, compared to 4.x :) > > Also, what are the consequences of this when I'm installing other packages? > Last time around I had some failures when I tried using apt-get to install > some packages (I forgot the error message). Does getting one (or a few) > packages from testing cause problems with installing packages from stable > later? Yep, using packages from testing will cause problems. Fortunately, a kind soul has built 4.2 debs for woody. I can't remember the exact URL, and I'm offline now, but I think it was http://people.debian.org/~blade/woody/. Using these is a much better idea than trying to get a newer version of X from testing. -rob msg27492/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which version of X should I use?
Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I tried this last month and ran into trouble with the video card (ATI Radeon > All-In-Wonder). It turns out the version of X in the current stable branch > does not support my card well. The previous version supported it and 4.2 > supports it. > > So am I better off going into testing and getting X 4.2, or going > backward to 3.x (I can't remember the exact number of the last 3.x > version)? In general, I'd use the newest version of XFree86 that (a) supports your hardware, (b) has the features you want, and hopefully (c) is included in Debian. XFree86 4.x has much better support for hardware 3-D rendering, so if you need this, you might go forward to 4.2. Otherwise, 3.3.6 has the advantage of having servers included in woody. > Also, what are the consequences of this when I'm installing other > packages? There are a couple of things to remember: you only need the server, and you want to install in /usr/local. You'll have no end of pain if you try to install things in /usr or /usr/X11R6 directly, since APT/dpkg will get confused. When I needed to do this a while ago, it was enough to download a binary tarball of just the X server and unpack it in /usr/local, and then adjust my XF86Config correctly. If you do this, APT might insist that you install another X server, but nothing requires you to actually run it. > Last time around I had some failures when I tried using apt-get to install > some packages (I forgot the error message). Does getting one (or a few) > packages from testing cause problems with installing packages from stable > later? You might be forced into a wholescale upgrade to testing. (This is definitely a possibility if you go to unstable.) You can probably install non-core packages from stable without a problem, though. You'll also need to be careful to keep up on security updates, since testing essentially doesn't get them (and is currently several months out of date). -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which version of X should I use?
Hal Vaughan wrote: >I'm re-installing Debian on a system. > >I tried this last month and ran into trouble with the video card (ATI Radeon >All-In-Wonder). It turns out the version of X in the current stable branch >does not support my card well. The previous version supported it and 4.2 >supports it. > >So am I better off going into testing and getting X 4.2, or going backward to >3.x (I can't remember the exact number of the last 3.x version)? [...] xfree86 v3 and v4 are separate packages, and both in Woody. Do apt-cache show xfree86-common for more info on v4. apt-cache show xfree86-common-v3 is about v3, duh. I recall that while in Potato (stable) I had to upgrade to Woody (testing) to get v4 for i810 video support. -- gt [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Well, you order it from the 'Society of Hardware and Information Technology Helpers, Executive Administration Division' website - you're a member aren't you?"--BOFH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which version of X should I use?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 08:32:06PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > So am I better off going into testing and getting X 4.2, or going backward to > 3.x (I can't remember the exact number of the last 3.x version)? Forward, especially if you play things like UT or Quake3, etc, which I believe depend on XFree86 4.x. If it's a Mach64, I had better luck going back. > Also, what are the consequences of this when I'm installing other packages? Apt will tell you. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg27346/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
