Re: Windows, alas! (was: KDE being removed?)
Am 2006-09-04 23:44:15, schrieb Owen Heisler: > This is a very ironic and hilarious topic. Every time I do some drive > changing in Linux (and when I'm done everything _just works_), I can't > help but think of trying something like that in Windows. Instead (with > Windows), you fight, fight, and fight it, trying to get it to work, then > finally give up and reinstall when you realize that would be faster. I think, BECAUSE Linux give us the possibility to configure all what we want, it give us the kick to search for Errors and do not want to left something behind. And if one time something does not work we contact our lists ask there exchange hints and tips and get it running. Parallel we create a great community... I am often not in France and had meet many different Linuxien all over the world... It is just fun! There is nothing which can beet it. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows, alas!
Scott Reese wrote: If you want to back up the Windows partition from Linux, you need to do it at a bit level rather than a file level. Using dd works, and you can feed that through bzip to compress it, if space is an issue. I was very happy using ntfsclone from the ntfsprogs package for backing up and cloning ntfs file systems, including migration to other disks. Migration to other disks eventually involves updating of the drive geometry parameters if the destination disk has a different layout. Use testdisk for this. Very recommended! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows, alas!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Do you happen to know just what has to be backed up to be able to restore > Windows fron > backup and even have it boot? Every time I've tried it with the current crop > of > Windowses just copying all the files (using Linux tar) and running lilo > hasn't sufficed. > There seems to be some essential information outside the file system, as far > as I can see. > > I mamaged to do this long ago with Windows 98 SE, but as far as I know that > time the boot > information had not been damaged between restores, so if there was any extra > covert data, > it was still there.. > > -- hendrik > > Greetings Hendrik: It's not a matter of there being data outside of the filesystem with NT-based Windows systems, it's a matter of improper mapping of permissions and metadata between Linux & Windows. If you mount a Windows NTFS partition from Linux, you will see that the files are all owned by root (or whomever mounted the partition), which is not what would show up if you looked at it under Windows. The tar program maintains those (wrong) permissions, and then writes them back. You might be able to get away with using tar to back up a Windows partition IF the partition is FAT32 rather than NTFS - which is why it worked under Win98 but not now. Pretty much everything ships NTFS now. If you want to back up the Windows partition from Linux, you need to do it at a bit level rather than a file level. Using dd works, and you can feed that through bzip to compress it, if space is an issue. Good luck. -Scott -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows, alas! (was: KDE being removed?)
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 21:11 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 05:44:13PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > Am 2006-08-31 13:38:22, schrieb Hal Vaughan: > > > On Thursday 31 August 2006 08:36, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > > > > > Then some hours later you come back and see you have Vista running... > > > > > > > > =8-O > > > > > > That's not funny. > > > > > > Actually, it makes me want to cry... > > > > Yes, but it IS possibel to create a package, which use parted, > > create a windows partition and install a windows network-version. > > > > You can install Windows over the net in a "light" version which > > copy only the minimal files or a full installation but it requires > > the Enterprise version of Windows XP/2003 or the old Win NT 4.0. > > > > We have already done this just for fun and it works. > > > > Thanks, Greetings and nice Day > > Michelle Konzack > > Systemadministrator > > Tamay Dogan Network > > Debian GNU/Linux Consultant > > Do you happen to know just what has to be backed up to be able to restore > Windows fron > backup and even have it boot? Every time I've tried it with the current crop > of > Windowses just copying all the files (using Linux tar) and running lilo > hasn't sufficed. > There seems to be some essential information outside the file system, as far > as I can see. > > I mamaged to do this long ago with Windows 98 SE, but as far as I know that > time the boot > information had not been damaged between restores, so if there was any extra > covert data, > it was still there.. This is a very ironic and hilarious topic. Every time I do some drive changing in Linux (and when I'm done everything _just works_), I can't help but think of trying something like that in Windows. Instead (with Windows), you fight, fight, and fight it, trying to get it to work, then finally give up and reinstall when you realize that would be faster. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
