Re: X-windows in startup

2001-01-03 Thread kmself
on Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 07:07:28AM -0800, Tom Schuetz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I had unsuccessfully configured X, set it aside for a day. Rebooted the 
> machine, only to have X start automatically. Problem is, X isn't working 
> beyond letting me enter username/password. 
> 
> C-ALT-D only gets me back to the initial GUI login! IS there a way to
> escape out of this during the boot process? 


X display manager Pre-shrunk Ultra-Mini  HOWTO

Karsten M. Self 
Written: Sat Oct 14, 2000
Modified: 2001/01/03 21:00:31


X has started and (pick one or more):

   - It's broken.
   - It exits immediately.
   - You don't want it.

You can usually kill an X session with the key combination
.  For a managed (xdm, gdm, wdm, kdm, etc.) X
session, this usually just restarts the session manager.

You can switch to an alternate virtual console, VC, sometimes called a
virtual terminal, VT.  Prefrably one with a command-line login prompt.
Use the key combination F[1-6] -- where F[1-6] represents any
of the function keys numbered F1-F6.  A default Debian GNU/Linux
installation runs a getty (terminal login) on the first six VCs.  You
can also use the 'chvt', though this assumes a command line, which you
didn't have in the first place, eh?  Note that you can issue the 'chvt'
command remotely, in the event your console is hosed, but your system is
still responsive, and you have network access to the machine. 



You don't want to run an XDM login session?

To disable xdm for the current system session:

$ /etc/init.d/rc.d/xdm stop

To disable xdm startups for *all* system sessions:

$ /usr/bin/update-rc.d -f xdm remove

To allow *remote* xdm control but disable local control:  comment out
the localhost display in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers, e.g.:

$ mv /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers.bak &&
sed -e '/^[ ]*:[0-9] local/s/^/# /' < /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers.bak \
> /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers


To remove xdm from your system:

$ apt-get remove xdm


Note that I recommend not using an X display manager on your system for
the following reasons:

   - It needlessly complicates the X initialization sequence, and makes 
 debugging and troubleshooting more difficult.

   - It means that your system is incurring the overhead of running an X
 session when you explicitly *aren't* using the console (though you
 may be using the system remotely or in batch processing).  This is
 a waste of resources.

   - Though xdm does simplify remote X sessions to an extent, it is an
 insecure means of accessing your system, and leaves your entire X
 session open on the wire for snooping.

Yes, you can run an X display manager such as XDM, GDM, KDM, WDM, etc.,
and many people do.  My preference is not to.

My preferred X startup method is:

$ startx -- :1 1>.startx.log 2>&1 & exit

...executed from a console login.  This startx X (on display :1 rather
than :0 -- if I *do* want to run an X display, it won't interfere), logs
all X server output to the file .startx.log, including error output, and
exits the console session.

-- 
Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
 Evangelist, Zelerate, Inc.  http://www.zelerate.org
  What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?  There is no K5 cabal
   http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org


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Re: X-windows in startup

2001-01-03 Thread Russell May
Also, that is xdm doing the login stuff. Remove it from the init.d settings.
Or remove the xdm from your install. Check
http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/xdm.html for more details on what xdm
does.

-Russell May
I signed up for the debian-users list and all I got was this lousy .sig

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From: "Tom Schuetz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: X-windows in startup


> I had unsuccessfully configured X, set it aside for a day. Rebooted the
machine, only to have X start automatically. Problem is, X isn't working
beyond letting me enter username/password.
>
> C-ALT-D only gets me back to the initial GUI login! IS there a way to
escape out of this during the boot process?
>
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Re: X-windows in startup

2001-01-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 07:07:28AM -0800, Tom Schuetz wrote:
> I had unsuccessfully configured X, set it aside for a day. Rebooted the 
> machine, only to have X start automatically. Problem is, X isn't working 
> beyond letting me enter username/password. 
> 
> C-ALT-D only gets me back to the initial GUI login! IS there a way to escape 
> out of this during the boot process? 

C-ALT-F1 will switch you to the console on tty1.  

if X is so screwed as to not accept the keyboard boot with single to
the lilo prompt.  

-- 
Ethan Benson
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/


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