Re: Yehaw!
On Wed, 02 Feb 2000, brian moore wrote: > On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 01:23:34PM -0800, Lee wrote: > > On Wed, 02 Feb 2000, John Foster wrote: > > > Lee Chapelle wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm looking for "Messenger" I'm using corel-linux which has an earlier > > > > Netscape 4.x in it already but no sign of Messenger Composer etc.. I > > > > downloaded the correct update from the FTP site as stated in the > > > > package manager in linux the one with -linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz , extracted > > > > to a folder, navigated to the folder in console and ran ./ns-install. > > > > It goes fine, updates Navigator to 4.7 but there's no still no > > > > Messenger. How do I add (find) Messenger? I gotta have a decent modern > > > > newsreader, I'm just no good with this terminal stuff. > > > --- > > > You need the communicator version for your system. > > > > > > http://home.netscape.com/download/unsupported.html > > > > > > Pick the one from this site that fits your needs. > > > > > > I tried another package, all are Communicator, but I am now convinced as I > > said > > to Nate that the corel download has been crippled to not install Messenger > > so > > they can cash in on people ordering the $59 or $89 CD. > > Nonsense. > > Bothered trying the trivial method? Uncommment the two sources in > /etc/apt/sources.list and choose communicator from dselect or Corel's > gui thingie. > > Or you could do it the way you seem to be doing it -if- you remove the > Corel-supplied browser. Obviously it's being found first in your path. > > > http://linux.corel.com/products/linux_os/buy.htm > > > > GUess it's time to download *real* Linux .. Ideas on that plan? > > Yes, you should fix your pathing before mindlessly inventing > conspiracies. > > You have the source: go find the "this will break communicator" stuff > and submit a patch. > I got it. When you install the full Communicator upgrade, it installs a subdirectory user/local/netscape/communicator/y which contains a file called netscape which launchs the full Communicator. It opens a warnng to remove a 'lock' file, which completes the process :>) Maybe the darn thing was there all along...
Re: Yehaw!
On Wed, 02 Feb 2000, brian moore wrote: > On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 01:23:34PM -0800, Lee wrote: > > On Wed, 02 Feb 2000, John Foster wrote: > > > Lee Chapelle wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm looking for "Messenger" I'm using corel-linux which has an earlier > > > > Netscape 4.x in it already but no sign of Messenger Composer etc.. I > > > > downloaded the correct update from the FTP site as stated in the > > > > package manager in linux the one with -linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz , extracted > > > > to a folder, navigated to the folder in console and ran ./ns-install. > > > > It goes fine, updates Navigator to 4.7 but there's no still no > > > > Messenger. How do I add (find) Messenger? I gotta have a decent modern > > > > newsreader, I'm just no good with this terminal stuff. > > > --- > > > You need the communicator version for your system. > > > > > > http://home.netscape.com/download/unsupported.html > > > > > > Pick the one from this site that fits your needs. > > > > > > I tried another package, all are Communicator, but I am now convinced as I > > said > > to Nate that the corel download has been crippled to not install Messenger > > so > > they can cash in on people ordering the $59 or $89 CD. > > Nonsense. Really ? Great!!! > > Bothered trying the trivial method? Uncommment the two sources in > /etc/apt/sources.list and choose communicator from dselect or Corel's > gui thingie. Could you dumb that down a little please? I opened /etc/apt/sources.list and discovered this: * # Use for a local mirror - remove the ftp1 http lines for the bits # your mirror contains. # deb file:/your/mirror/here/debian stable main contrib non-free # See sources.list(5) for more information, especial # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs deb file:/mnt/amnt/cdrom1 corellinux-1.0 main contrib non-free corel deb ftp://ftp.corel.com/pub/linux/CorelLinux corellinux-1.0 main contrib non-free corel deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian slink main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US slink non-US #deb /web/ main contrib non-free non-US * Originally the last 3 lines had # (I assume those are comments) I took all 3 off but Corel Update would not load, so I replaced the last one. I'm in the dark here, what am I trying to do? I just know how to install stuff Windows style. Is Corel Update even any use here? > > Or you could do it the way you seem to be doing it -if- you remove the > Corel-supplied browser. Obviously it's being found first in your path. > How do I remove it? If I do will the full version install? > > http://linux.corel.com/products/linux_os/buy.htm > > > > GUess it's time to download *real* Linux .. Ideas on that plan? > > Yes, you should fix your pathing before mindlessly inventing > conspiracies. > > You have the source: go find the "this will break communicator" stuff > and submit a patch. I would so LOVE to be able to do that. with a little help from my esteemed friends ;>) Lee > > -- > Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor. > Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting > Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day. > Netscum, Bane of Elves. > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Yehaw!
Quoting Lee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Wed, 02 Feb 2000, David Wright wrote: > > You'll be left with a package called /kernel-image-2.3.41_foo.1_i386.deb > > in the directory above you (i.e. in ..) which you can then install > > like any .deb file. > > I follow up to that point but my Windows brain does not grok "lnstall like any > .deb file" How is that? dpkg -i whichever.deb [whatever.deb ...] installs those packages. (I put two packages because some people forget that dpkg can handle multiple files and get stumped by circular dependencies.) This is the only part of the process that you need to be root to do. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: Yehaw!
On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 01:23:34PM -0800, Lee wrote: > On Wed, 02 Feb 2000, John Foster wrote: > > Lee Chapelle wrote: > > > > > > I'm looking for "Messenger" I'm using corel-linux which has an earlier > > > Netscape 4.x in it already but no sign of Messenger Composer etc.. I > > > downloaded the correct update from the FTP site as stated in the package > > > manager in linux the one with -linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz , extracted to a > > > folder, navigated to the folder in console and ran ./ns-install. It goes > > > fine, updates Navigator to 4.7 but there's no still no Messenger. How do > > > I add (find) Messenger? I gotta have a decent modern newsreader, I'm just > > > no good with this terminal stuff. > > --- > > You need the communicator version for your system. > > > > http://home.netscape.com/download/unsupported.html > > > > Pick the one from this site that fits your needs. > > > I tried another package, all are Communicator, but I am now convinced as I > said > to Nate that the corel download has been crippled to not install Messenger so > they can cash in on people ordering the $59 or $89 CD. Nonsense. Bothered trying the trivial method? Uncommment the two sources in /etc/apt/sources.list and choose communicator from dselect or Corel's gui thingie. Or you could do it the way you seem to be doing it -if- you remove the Corel-supplied browser. Obviously it's being found first in your path. > http://linux.corel.com/products/linux_os/buy.htm > > GUess it's time to download *real* Linux .. Ideas on that plan? Yes, you should fix your pathing before mindlessly inventing conspiracies. You have the source: go find the "this will break communicator" stuff and submit a patch. -- Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor. Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day. Netscum, Bane of Elves.
Re: Yehaw!
yeah, i told the person(maybe it was you? i forget) to download netscape direct from netscape and not bother with corel or debian packages .. nate On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Lee wrote: lee >On Wed, 02 Feb 2000, you wrote: lee >> if you downloaded communicator, you *will* be able to load messenger from lee >> within netscape. click on the icon in the bottom right of the netscape lee >> window, on *nix all the netscape programs are in 1 binary. or you can try lee >> loading messenger directly with the command netscape -messenger or lee >> netscape -mail lee > lee >http://linux.corel.com/products/linux_os/inside.htm Take a look under Netscape lee >Communicator Download version. I believe that they have crippled Communicator lee >on the corel download version so it will never run Messenger. I don't see any lee >icon in the bottom right of my Navigator Window either. Those commands have no lee >effect. I just installed another package from a recommended site, and it lee >refused to install several modules (Java) as wrong version, however all that is lee >OK, just no Messenger/Composer. lee > lee >I would like to know if anyone at all has installed Messenger on this lee >particular package. I'll try alt.os.corel.linux lee > lee >thanks for your patience lee > lee >Lee lee > lee > lee >-- lee >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null lee > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 5:19pm up 167 days, 5:30, 1 user, load average: 1.04, 1.05, 1.06
Re: Yehaw!
On Wed, 02 Feb 2000, John Foster wrote: > Lee Chapelle wrote: > > > > I'm looking for "Messenger" I'm using corel-linux which has an earlier > > Netscape 4.x in it already but no sign of Messenger Composer etc.. I > > downloaded the correct update from the FTP site as stated in the package > > manager in linux the one with -linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz , extracted to a > > folder, navigated to the folder in console and ran ./ns-install. It goes > > fine, updates Navigator to 4.7 but there's no still no Messenger. How do I > > add (find) Messenger? I gotta have a decent modern newsreader, I'm just no > > good with this terminal stuff. > --- > You need the communicator version for your system. > > http://home.netscape.com/download/unsupported.html > > Pick the one from this site that fits your needs. I tried another package, all are Communicator, but I am now convinced as I said to Nate that the corel download has been crippled to not install Messenger so they can cash in on people ordering the $59 or $89 CD. http://linux.corel.com/products/linux_os/buy.htm GUess it's time to download *real* Linux .. Ideas on that plan? thanks for the feedback Lee
Re: Yehaw!
On Wed, 02 Feb 2000, you wrote: > if you downloaded communicator, you *will* be able to load messenger from > within netscape. click on the icon in the bottom right of the netscape > window, on *nix all the netscape programs are in 1 binary. or you can try > loading messenger directly with the command netscape -messenger or > netscape -mail http://linux.corel.com/products/linux_os/inside.htm Take a look under Netscape Communicator Download version. I believe that they have crippled Communicator on the corel download version so it will never run Messenger. I don't see any icon in the bottom right of my Navigator Window either. Those commands have no effect. I just installed another package from a recommended site, and it refused to install several modules (Java) as wrong version, however all that is OK, just no Messenger/Composer. I would like to know if anyone at all has installed Messenger on this particular package. I'll try alt.os.corel.linux thanks for your patience Lee
Re: Yehaw!
On Wed, 02 Feb 2000, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Lee Chapelle ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > From: aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > cd to /usr/src > > > and run this: > > > > > > wget http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel/v2.3/linux-2.3.41.tar.gz > > > > that's cool! > > > > > mv linux linux-OLD > > > > no such directory or file > > It's no longer normal to unpack the kernel source in /usr/src, > and one wouldn't except there to be a linux symlink to be renamed > if you hadn't already unpacked one there, say, from hamm or previous. > > If you download kernel-package and fakeroot, you can unpack the > source anywhere and then, at top level in the source, > > > > make menuconfig > > > (configure the kernel to your liking) > > fakeroot /usr/sbin/make-kpkg clean > fakeroot /usr/sbin/make-kpkg --revision=foo.1 kernel_image > ^ >something more meaningful > > You'll be left with a package called /kernel-image-2.3.41_foo.1_i386.deb > in the directory above you (i.e. in ..) which you can then install > like any .deb file. I follow up to that point but my Windows brain does not grok "lnstall like any .deb file" How is that? TIA Lee
Re: Yehaw!
if you downloaded communicator, you *will* be able to load messenger from within netscape. click on the icon in the bottom right of the netscape window, on *nix all the netscape programs are in 1 binary. or you can try loading messenger directly with the command netscape -messenger or netscape -mail nate On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Lee wrote: lee >I did download and install Communicator, several different ones (see below). lee >FILE SIZE 16,573 KB. There is still no Messenger that I can see, just lee >Navigator. lee > lee >aphro wrote: > corel is using the standard lee >netscape, you gotta download communicator > which has the mail/news/html lee >composer clients. > lee >> see netscape's homepage or ftp sites for it. lee >> lee >> nate lee >> lee >> On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Lee Chapelle wrote: lee >> lee >> canuck >I'm looking for "Messenger" I'm using corel-linux which has an earlier Netscape 4.x in it already but no sign of lee >Messenger Composer etc.. I downloaded the correct update from the FTP site as lee >stated in the package manager in linux the one with -linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz , lee >extracted to a folder, navigated to the folder in console and ran ./ns-install. lee >It goes fine, updates Navigator to 4.7 but there's no still no Messenger. How lee >do I add (find) Messenger? I gotta have a decent modern newsreader, I'm just no lee >good with this terminal stuff. > canuck > > canuck >Lee > canuck > > canuck lee >>- Original Message - > canuck >From: aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > lee >canuck >To: Lee Chapelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > canuck >Sent: Tuesday, February lee >01, 2000 9:09 AM > canuck >Subject: Re: Yehaw! lee >> canuck > lee >> canuck > lee >> canuck >> extract the archive to whatever directory you want .. and cd to that lee >> canuck >> directory and in a terminal/shell run ./ns-install ..it is a shell script lee >> canuck >> not an X windows app so u gotta be in a terminal or at the console to run lee >> canuck >> it. lee >> canuck >> lee >> canuck >> if it still doesnt work let me know exactly what you are doing and i'll lee >> canuck >> to help more lee >> canuck >> lee >> canuck >> nate lee >> canuck >> lee >> canuck >> On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Lee Chapelle wrote: lee >> canuck >> lee >> canuck >> canuck >From: aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> lee >> canuck >> canuck > lee >> canuck >> canuck >> try running ./ns-install lee >> canuck >> canuck >> lee >> canuck >> canuck >> it should work ..ive run it hundreds of times and never had a problem on lee >> canuck >> canuck >> either linux or irix. lee >> canuck >> canuck >> lee >> canuck >> canuck >> nate lee >> canuck >> canuck > lee >> canuck >> canuck >Thanks nate, before I reboot, can you please say explicitly, do I just type ./ns-install in the Run box? Is there some requirement for the archive to be placed or extracted somewhere specifically? lee >> canuck >> canuck > lee >> canuck >> canuck >TIA lee >> canuck >> canuck > lee >> canuck >> lee >> canuck >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- lee >> canuck >>Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ lee >> canuck >> Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ lee >> canuck >>Everett, WA 425-348-7336 http://www.linuxpowered.net/ lee >> canuck >> Powered By: http://comedy.aphroland.org/ lee >> canuck >> Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMP http://yahoo.aphroland.org/ lee >> canuck >> -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- lee >> canuck >> 9:07am up 165 days, 21:17, 1 user, load average: 1.06, 1.04, 1.06 lee >> canuck >> lee >> canuck > lee >> lee >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- lee >>Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ lee >> Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ lee >>Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ lee >> Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ lee >> Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ lee >> -[m
Re: Yehaw!
I did download and install Communicator, several different ones (see below). FILE SIZE 16,573 KB. There is still no Messenger that I can see, just Navigator. aphro wrote: > corel is using the standard netscape, you gotta download communicator > which has the mail/news/html composer clients. > > see netscape's homepage or ftp sites for it. > > nate > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Lee Chapelle wrote: > > canuck >I'm looking for "Messenger" I'm using corel-linux which has an > earlier Netscape 4.x in it already but no sign of Messenger Composer etc.. I downloaded the correct update from the FTP site as stated in the package manager in linux the one with -linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz , extracted to a folder, navigated to the folder in console and ran ./ns-install. It goes fine, updates Navigator to 4.7 but there's no still no Messenger. How do I add (find) Messenger? I gotta have a decent modern newsreader, I'm just no good with this terminal stuff. > canuck > > canuck >Lee > canuck > > canuck >- Original Message - > canuck >From: aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > canuck >To: Lee Chapelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > canuck >Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 9:09 AM > canuck >Subject: Re: Yehaw! > canuck > > canuck > > canuck >> extract the archive to whatever directory you want .. and cd to that > canuck >> directory and in a terminal/shell run ./ns-install ..it is a shell > script > canuck >> not an X windows app so u gotta be in a terminal or at the console > to run > canuck >> it. > canuck >> > canuck >> if it still doesnt work let me know exactly what you are doing and > i'll > canuck >> to help more > canuck >> > canuck >> nate > canuck >> > canuck >> On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Lee Chapelle wrote: > canuck >> > canuck >> canuck >From: aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > canuck >> canuck > > canuck >> canuck >> try running ./ns-install > canuck >> canuck >> > canuck >> canuck >> it should work ..ive run it hundreds of times and never > had a problem on > canuck >> canuck >> either linux or irix. > canuck >> canuck >> > canuck >> canuck >> nate > canuck >> canuck > > canuck >> canuck >Thanks nate, before I reboot, can you please say > explicitly, do I just type ./ns-install in the Run box? Is there some > requirement for the archive to be placed or extracted somewhere specifically? > canuck >> canuck > > canuck >> canuck >TIA > canuck >> canuck > > canuck >> > canuck >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ]-- > canuck >>Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ > canuck >> Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ > canuck >>Everett, WA 425-348-7336 > http://www.linuxpowered.net/ > canuck >> Powered By: > http://comedy.aphroland.org/ > canuck >> Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMP > http://yahoo.aphroland.org/ > canuck >> -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ]-- > canuck >> 9:07am up 165 days, 21:17, 1 user, load average: 1.06, 1.04, 1.06 > canuck >> > canuck > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- >Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ > Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ >Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ > Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ > Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ > -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- > 7:22am up 166 days, 19:32, 2 users, load average: 1.04, 1.07, 1.07 > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Yehaw!
Quoting Lee Chapelle ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > From: aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > cd to /usr/src > > and run this: > > > > wget http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel/v2.3/linux-2.3.41.tar.gz > > that's cool! > > > mv linux linux-OLD > > no such directory or file It's no longer normal to unpack the kernel source in /usr/src, and one wouldn't except there to be a linux symlink to be renamed if you hadn't already unpacked one there, say, from hamm or previous. If you download kernel-package and fakeroot, you can unpack the source anywhere and then, at top level in the source, > > make menuconfig > > (configure the kernel to your liking) fakeroot /usr/sbin/make-kpkg clean fakeroot /usr/sbin/make-kpkg --revision=foo.1 kernel_image ^ something more meaningful You'll be left with a package called /kernel-image-2.3.41_foo.1_i386.deb in the directory above you (i.e. in ..) which you can then install like any .deb file. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: Yehaw!
corel is using the standard netscape, you gotta download communicator which has the mail/news/html composer clients. see netscape's homepage or ftp sites for it. nate On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Lee Chapelle wrote: canuck >I'm looking for "Messenger" I'm using corel-linux which has an earlier Netscape 4.x in it already but no sign of Messenger Composer etc.. I downloaded the correct update from the FTP site as stated in the package manager in linux the one with -linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz , extracted to a folder, navigated to the folder in console and ran ./ns-install. It goes fine, updates Navigator to 4.7 but there's no still no Messenger. How do I add (find) Messenger? I gotta have a decent modern newsreader, I'm just no good with this terminal stuff. canuck > canuck >Lee canuck > canuck >- Original Message - canuck >From: aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> canuck >To: Lee Chapelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> canuck >Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 9:09 AM canuck >Subject: Re: Yehaw! canuck > canuck > canuck >> extract the archive to whatever directory you want .. and cd to that canuck >> directory and in a terminal/shell run ./ns-install ..it is a shell script canuck >> not an X windows app so u gotta be in a terminal or at the console to run canuck >> it. canuck >> canuck >> if it still doesnt work let me know exactly what you are doing and i'll canuck >> to help more canuck >> canuck >> nate canuck >> canuck >> On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Lee Chapelle wrote: canuck >> canuck >> canuck >From: aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> canuck >> canuck > canuck >> canuck >> try running ./ns-install canuck >> canuck >> canuck >> canuck >> it should work ..ive run it hundreds of times and never had a problem on canuck >> canuck >> either linux or irix. canuck >> canuck >> canuck >> canuck >> nate canuck >> canuck > canuck >> canuck >Thanks nate, before I reboot, can you please say explicitly, do I just type ./ns-install in the Run box? Is there some requirement for the archive to be placed or extracted somewhere specifically? canuck >> canuck > canuck >> canuck >TIA canuck >> canuck > canuck >> canuck >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- canuck >>Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ canuck >> Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ canuck >>Everett, WA 425-348-7336 http://www.linuxpowered.net/ canuck >> Powered By: http://comedy.aphroland.org/ canuck >> Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ canuck >> -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- canuck >> 9:07am up 165 days, 21:17, 1 user, load average: 1.06, 1.04, 1.06 canuck >> canuck > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 7:22am up 166 days, 19:32, 2 users, load average: 1.04, 1.07, 1.07
Re: Yehaw!
Lee Chapelle wrote: > > I'm looking for "Messenger" I'm using corel-linux which has an earlier > Netscape 4.x in it already but no sign of Messenger Composer etc.. I > downloaded the correct update from the FTP site as stated in the package > manager in linux the one with -linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz , extracted to a folder, > navigated to the folder in console and ran ./ns-install. It goes fine, > updates Navigator to 4.7 but there's no still no Messenger. How do I add > (find) Messenger? I gotta have a decent modern newsreader, I'm just no good > with this terminal stuff. --- You need the communicator version for your system. http://home.netscape.com/download/unsupported.html Pick the one from this site that fits your needs. -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
Re: Yehaw!
I'm looking for "Messenger" I'm using corel-linux which has an earlier Netscape 4.x in it already but no sign of Messenger Composer etc.. I downloaded the correct update from the FTP site as stated in the package manager in linux the one with -linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz , extracted to a folder, navigated to the folder in console and ran ./ns-install. It goes fine, updates Navigator to 4.7 but there's no still no Messenger. How do I add (find) Messenger? I gotta have a decent modern newsreader, I'm just no good with this terminal stuff. Lee - Original Message - From: aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Lee Chapelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 9:09 AM Subject: Re: Yehaw! > extract the archive to whatever directory you want .. and cd to that > directory and in a terminal/shell run ./ns-install ..it is a shell script > not an X windows app so u gotta be in a terminal or at the console to run > it. > > if it still doesnt work let me know exactly what you are doing and i'll > to help more > > nate > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Lee Chapelle wrote: > > canuck >From: aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > canuck > > canuck >> try running ./ns-install > canuck >> > canuck >> it should work ..ive run it hundreds of times and never had a > problem on > canuck >> either linux or irix. > canuck >> > canuck >> nate > canuck > > canuck >Thanks nate, before I reboot, can you please say explicitly, do I > just type ./ns-install in the Run box? Is there some requirement for the > archive to be placed or extracted somewhere specifically? > canuck > > canuck >TIA > canuck > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- >Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ > Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ >Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ > Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ > Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ > -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- > 9:07am up 165 days, 21:17, 1 user, load average: 1.06, 1.04, 1.06 >
Re: Yehaw!
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Lee Chapelle wrote: > How do I obtain and install the 2.3 kernel? I am running corel-linux From: aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cd to /usr/src > and run this: > > wget http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel/v2.3/linux-2.3.41.tar.gz that's cool! > mv linux linux-OLD no such directory or file > mkdir linux-2.3.41 > ln -s linux-2.3.41 linux > tar -zxvf linux-2.3.41.tar.gz > cd linux > make menuconfig > (configure the kernel to your liking) > make dep ; make clean ; make bzImage ; make modules ; make modules_install > cd arch/i386/boot > cp bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.3.41 > cd / > rm vmlinuz > ln -s boot/vmlinuz-2.3.41 vmlinuz > lilo > > and reboot. there may be a better way but thats how i do it. check > /etc/lilo.conf to make sure the default kernel is /vmlinuz > > nate > >
Re: Yehaw!
cd to /usr/src and run this: wget http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel/v2.3/linux-2.3.41.tar.gz mv linux linux-OLD mkdir linux-2.3.41 ln -s linux-2.3.41 linux tar -zxvf linux-2.3.41.tar.gz cd linux make menuconfig (configure the kernel to your liking) make dep ; make clean ; make bzImage ; make modules ; make modules_install cd arch/i386/boot cp bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.3.41 cd / rm vmlinuz ln -s boot/vmlinuz-2.3.41 vmlinuz lilo and reboot. there may be a better way but thats how i do it. check /etc/lilo.conf to make sure the default kernel is /vmlinuz nate On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Lee Chapelle wrote: canuck >How do I obtain and install the 2.3 kernel? I am running corel-linux canuck > canuck >TIA canuck > canuck >- Original Message - canuck >From: Scott Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> canuck >To: canuck >Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 8:30 AM canuck >Subject: Re: Yehaw! canuck > canuck > canuck >> >>>>> "T" == Tom Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: canuck >> canuck >> T> I don't have any USB devices, but as far as I know, there's no USB canuck >> T> support available in Linux until the 2.4.X kernel gets released, which canuck >> T> is supposed to be happening within the next few months. If I'm wrong canuck >> T> about this, I'll get corrected in a hurry here. The 2.3.X development canuck >> T> kernel, which will become 2.4.X when released, probably has USB support canuck >> T> now. I think Corel is using 2.2.X which is the current stable kernel. canuck >> canuck >> The 2.3 kernels have USB support. Many things are working already. I canuck >> am using a USB mouse suvvessfully. linux-usb.org keeps up a working canuck >> backport patch to the latest 2.2 kernels, and my USB mouse (really canuck >> an Evolution trackball) works under that, too. canuck >> canuck >> -- canuck >>More Important Drivel from: canuck >> Scott Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /\/\/\ http://reality.sgi.com/scotth/ canuck >> canuck >> canuck >> -- canuck >> Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null canuck >> canuck > canuck > canuck >-- canuck >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null canuck > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 9:07am up 165 days, 21:17, 1 user, load average: 1.06, 1.04, 1.06
Re: Yehaw!
How do I obtain and install the 2.3 kernel? I am running corel-linux TIA - Original Message - From: Scott Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 8:30 AM Subject: Re: Yehaw! > >>>>> "T" == Tom Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > T> I don't have any USB devices, but as far as I know, there's no USB > T> support available in Linux until the 2.4.X kernel gets released, which > T> is supposed to be happening within the next few months. If I'm wrong > T> about this, I'll get corrected in a hurry here. The 2.3.X development > T> kernel, which will become 2.4.X when released, probably has USB support > T> now. I think Corel is using 2.2.X which is the current stable kernel. > > The 2.3 kernels have USB support. Many things are working already. I > am using a USB mouse suvvessfully. linux-usb.org keeps up a working > backport patch to the latest 2.2 kernels, and my USB mouse (really > an Evolution trackball) works under that, too. > > -- >More Important Drivel from: > Scott Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /\/\/\ http://reality.sgi.com/scotth/ > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
Re: Yehaw!
try running ./ns-install
it should work ..ive run it hundreds of times and never had a problem on
either linux or irix.
nate
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Lee Chapelle wrote:
canuck >Hi Tom
canuck >
canuck >I found kmail by good fortune, which supports multiple POP3 accounts,
and the KD (I think it's called) newsreader which is supposed to allow you to
switch from server to server, but it seems to be stuck on msnews. I downloaded
Netscape 4.7 but I'm stumped, being a Linux newbie, read on..
canuck >OK, I'm all for the easy way, but how does one use 'ns-install'? Just
running it doesn't work.
canuck >
canuck >Lee
canuck >
canuck >==
canuck >Installation Information For Communicator 4.7
canuck >==
canuck >
canuck >The recommended way to install this software is to use 'ns-install',
canuck >a relatively simple Bourne shell script that will properly extract
canuck >and install all the files now present in this release. It also runs
canuck >a command ('vreg') that enables you to receive future maintenance
canuck >releases and product updates for individual components that might
canuck >change between major product revisions. It does this by creating
canuck >or updating a small file to keep track of the product name, version,
canuck >and installation directory. This information is not broadcast to any
canuck >external entity (including Netscape), and is used only by Communicator.
canuck >
canuck >If you choose not to use 'ns-install', the following steps will help
canuck >you manually install the contents of this release (or rearrange the
canuck >contents in order to re-package them using another installer format,
canuck >such as RPM):
canuck >
canuck > 1) create the directory in which you want the release to live (we
canuck >will assume /usr/local/netscape for the purposes of this example)
canuck >
canuck > 2) mv *.nif /usr/local/netscape
canuck >
canuck > 3) mv *.jar /usr/local/netscape/java/classes
canuck >
canuck > 4) mv vreg /usr/local/netscape (if you want ASD (i.e., "push") to
work)
canuck >
canuck > 5) cd /usr/local/netscape
canuck >
canuck > 6) Extract the contents of each .nif file with 'gzip -dc file | tar
-xf -'.
canuck >
canuck >Do this if you don't have a .netscape directory and have never used
canuck >the product before:
canuck >
canuck > 7) mv bookmark.htm ~/.netscape/bookmarks.html (or use ln -s)
canuck >
canuck >The following step is optional (see above):
canuck >
canuck > 8) echo 'Communicator,4.7.0.19990915,/usr/local/netscape' > /tmp/infile
canuck >vreg /usr/local/netscape/registry /tmp/infile
canuck >
canuck >--
canuck >
canuck >It is recommended that you make use of the MOZILLA_HOME environment
canuck >variable in your .cshrc, .profile, or equivalent. MOZILLA_HOME should
canuck >be set to the directory in which you installed Communicator.
canuck >
canuck >For example, 'setenv MOZILLA_HOME /usr/local/netscape'.
canuck >
canuck >If you intend to move the 'netscape' binary into another directory
canuck >(like /usr/local/bin), then you must set MOZILLA_HOME in order for
canuck >Communicator to find all of its components. (MOZILLA_HOME would be
canuck >set to the installation directory in this case, NOT the directory in
canuck >which the binary resides.)
canuck >
canuck >==
canuck >
canuck >
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Re: Yehaw!
> "T" == Tom Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: T> I don't have any USB devices, but as far as I know, there's no USB T> support available in Linux until the 2.4.X kernel gets released, which T> is supposed to be happening within the next few months. If I'm wrong T> about this, I'll get corrected in a hurry here. The 2.3.X development T> kernel, which will become 2.4.X when released, probably has USB support T> now. I think Corel is using 2.2.X which is the current stable kernel. The 2.3 kernels have USB support. Many things are working already. I am using a USB mouse suvvessfully. linux-usb.org keeps up a working backport patch to the latest 2.2 kernels, and my USB mouse (really an Evolution trackball) works under that, too. -- More Important Drivel from: Scott Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /\/\/\ http://reality.sgi.com/scotth/
Re: Yehaw!
Hi Tom
I found kmail by good fortune, which supports multiple POP3 accounts, and the
KD (I think it's called) newsreader which is supposed to allow you to switch
from server to server, but it seems to be stuck on msnews. I downloaded
Netscape 4.7 but I'm stumped, being a Linux newbie, read on..
OK, I'm all for the easy way, but how does one use 'ns-install'? Just running
it doesn't work.
Lee
==
Installation Information For Communicator 4.7
==
The recommended way to install this software is to use 'ns-install',
a relatively simple Bourne shell script that will properly extract
and install all the files now present in this release. It also runs
a command ('vreg') that enables you to receive future maintenance
releases and product updates for individual components that might
change between major product revisions. It does this by creating
or updating a small file to keep track of the product name, version,
and installation directory. This information is not broadcast to any
external entity (including Netscape), and is used only by Communicator.
If you choose not to use 'ns-install', the following steps will help
you manually install the contents of this release (or rearrange the
contents in order to re-package them using another installer format,
such as RPM):
1) create the directory in which you want the release to live (we
will assume /usr/local/netscape for the purposes of this example)
2) mv *.nif /usr/local/netscape
3) mv *.jar /usr/local/netscape/java/classes
4) mv vreg /usr/local/netscape (if you want ASD (i.e., "push") to work)
5) cd /usr/local/netscape
6) Extract the contents of each .nif file with 'gzip -dc file | tar -xf -'.
Do this if you don't have a .netscape directory and have never used
the product before:
7) mv bookmark.htm ~/.netscape/bookmarks.html (or use ln -s)
The following step is optional (see above):
8) echo 'Communicator,4.7.0.19990915,/usr/local/netscape' > /tmp/infile
vreg /usr/local/netscape/registry /tmp/infile
--
It is recommended that you make use of the MOZILLA_HOME environment
variable in your .cshrc, .profile, or equivalent. MOZILLA_HOME should
be set to the directory in which you installed Communicator.
For example, 'setenv MOZILLA_HOME /usr/local/netscape'.
If you intend to move the 'netscape' binary into another directory
(like /usr/local/bin), then you must set MOZILLA_HOME in order for
Communicator to find all of its components. (MOZILLA_HOME would be
set to the installation directory in this case, NOT the directory in
which the binary resides.)
==
Re: Yehaw!
Hi Lee. Welcome, and it's great to see you over here! (got your email also) I don't have any USB devices, but as far as I know, there's no USB support available in Linux until the 2.4.X kernel gets released, which is supposed to be happening within the next few months. If I'm wrong about this, I'll get corrected in a hurry here. The 2.3.X development kernel, which will become 2.4.X when released, probably has USB support now. I think Corel is using 2.2.X which is the current stable kernel. As far as email and news clients, I'm hardly the expert on those. I use Netscape Communicator 4.7 for both mail and news. Multiple news servers are no problem, but it doesn't support multiple email accounts/servers. I have two accounts that I use, so what I do to set that up is to configure Netscape for one account, exit Netscape, and then copy the /home//.netscape/preferences.js config file to a different filename like preferences.js.tom1 . Then I restart Netscape and do the same for the other account, exit, and then copy preferences.js to yet another filename like preferences.js.tom2 Then I write a simple script (like a batch file) that first copies one of the saved config files to preferences.js, and then starts Netscape with the configuration I want. So to use the other account I have to exit Netscape and then restart it with the other script. I have entries on my window manager menu for each script. Not ideal, but that's as far as I've advanced on that front so far. There are better ways to do it. In Linux, you typically won't find many monolithic mail/news programs like OE that do everything with one program. Instead, you'll find lots of smaller programs where each one does part of the job, and you configure them to work together as you wish. This is especially true with the email and news type programs. The Mail-User HOWTO may help some. Here it is: http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Mail-User-HOWTO.html Tom Lee Chapelle wrote: > > Greetings everyone! > > I just downloaded and installed Corel-Linux. I was amazed at how simple it > was compared to previous attempts I have made at Linux. I ported over my > cable network settings and ta-da! now I can play. Can anyone recommend good > free mail and news clients? Of course something resembling Outloox Express > which I am used to would be nice. I have several email accounts and want to > subscribe to newsgroups on at least five different servers. > > I noticed my USB stuff doesn't work.. is that expected? > > Lee >
