Re: aptitude safe-upgrade and kde4 transition

2009-04-08 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 06:59:27AM +0200, Sven Joachim  was 
heard to say:
> On 2009-04-08 04:40 +0200, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 08:23:55AM +0200, Sven Joachim  
> > was heard to say:
> >> 
> >> But not the transition to kde4, since right now I cannot upgrade
> >> anything:
> >
> >   BTW, I have learned that if you pass "-o aptitude::delete-unused=false"
> > as an argument, you'll be able to upgrade packages (but KDE will be held
> > back).
> 
> A more permanent workaround is to "aptitude unmarkauto kdebase-bin-kde3",
> which has the same effect (aptitude won't consider removing that package).

  If that fixes the problem too, great.  The main idea is to change the
input to the resolver to avoid the problem.

  I still haven't figured out why aptitude isn's resolving the
dependencies correctly. :-(  You're probably never going to be able to
upgrade to KDE 4 with safe-upgrade, though: it appears to *require*
removing bits of KDE 3, so safe-upgrade will refuse to do it.

  Daniel


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Re: aptitude safe-upgrade and kde4 transition

2009-04-07 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-04-08 04:40 +0200, Daniel Burrows wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 08:23:55AM +0200, Sven Joachim  was 
> heard to say:
>> 
>> But not the transition to kde4, since right now I cannot upgrade
>> anything:
>
>   BTW, I have learned that if you pass "-o aptitude::delete-unused=false"
> as an argument, you'll be able to upgrade packages (but KDE will be held
> back).

A more permanent workaround is to "aptitude unmarkauto kdebase-bin-kde3",
which has the same effect (aptitude won't consider removing that package).

Sven


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Re: aptitude safe-upgrade and kde4 transition (was: Upgrade to Sid from Squeeze not happy...)

2009-04-07 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 08:23:55AM +0200, Sven Joachim  was 
heard to say:
> On 2009-04-06 08:59 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> 
> > On a side note, I never use the full-upgrade command because it has the
> > potential to remove a huge number of packages, and safe-upgrade handles
> > most situations (like library transitions) just fine.
> 
> But not the transition to kde4, since right now I cannot upgrade
> anything:

  BTW, I have learned that if you pass "-o aptitude::delete-unused=false"
as an argument, you'll be able to upgrade packages (but KDE will be held
back).

  Daniel


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Re: aptitude safe-upgrade and kde4 transition (was: Upgrade to Sid from Squeeze not happy...)

2009-04-07 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 08:23:55AM +0200, Sven Joachim  was 
heard to say:
> On 2009-04-06 08:59 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> 
> > On a side note, I never use the full-upgrade command because it has the
> > potential to remove a huge number of packages, and safe-upgrade handles
> > most situations (like library transitions) just fine.
> 
> But not the transition to kde4, since right now I cannot upgrade
> anything:
> 
> ,
> | Resolving dependencies...
> | The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> |   kdebase-bin-kde3: Conflicts: kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 but 4:4.2.2-1 is to 
> be installed.
> |   kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4: Conflicts: kdebase-bin-kde3 but 
> 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-2 is installed.
> `
> 
> Oh well. :-(  Looks like I'll have to try the experimental aptitude.

  I can confirm this, including with the current head branch of
aptitude.  In fact, there are two bugs: it takes a godawfully long
time, AND it's producing a solution that has conflicts left over.  Not
sure what's going on yet.

  Daniel


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Re: aptitude safe-upgrade and kde4 transition (was: Upgrade to Sid from Squeeze not happy...)

2009-04-07 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 08:23:55AM +0200, Sven Joachim  was 
heard to say:
> Oh well. :-(  Looks like I'll have to try the experimental aptitude.


  Just FYI, I expect to upload a new version in the next week or two
with a whole pile of fixes for the dependency solver.

  Daniel


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