Re: avoid debian net installerto fetch security and volatile

2009-09-01 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina

09/01/2009 12:46 AM, Paul E Condon:

Yeah, my problem is it is not prompted and forces me to fetch from
security and volatile against my wish.

I'm pretty sure you can say no to security and volatile, if you use
'expert' install.


Still need to fin dhow to make 'expert' default.
(No VGA in the installing box, my display is the console port)
I will... :-P


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Re: avoid debian net installerto fetch security and volatile

2009-09-01 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-09-01_22:45:24, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
 09/01/2009 12:46 AM, Paul E Condon:
 Yeah, my problem is it is not prompted and forces me to fetch from
 security and volatile against my wish.
 I'm pretty sure you can say no to security and volatile, if you use
 'expert' install.

 Still need to fin dhow to make 'expert' default.
 (No VGA in the installing box, my display is the console port)
 I will... :-P

My remberance of the thread is that preseeding automation was
suggested by someone who was offerring help, not by you. I had thought
that you did not need to automate the process, just that you did not
want to expose a newly installed system to the internet before it had
received latest security/volatile packages. I have no experience at
automating installation. It does seem to me that in as much as there
is a question asked about 'expert mode', the answering of that question
might be automated. But I really don't know.

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Re: avoid debian net installerto fetch security and volatile

2009-08-31 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina

08/31/2009 07:40 AM, Paul E Condon:

Netinstall coupled to a d-i preseeding file can do the trick.
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apb.html.en

Where to force to use my mirrors?
Although I change http.us.debian.org to my hostname, it goes to security and 
volatile yet...

I have done several installs using the most annal level of decision
making. I do not recall a question about where to get the packages for
the security updates. Without a question, I don't see how one can
preseed an answer. Or am I missing something?


Yeah, my problem is it is not prompted and forces me to fetch from
security and volatile against my wish.

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Re: avoid debian net installerto fetch security and volatile

2009-08-31 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-08-31_09:16:17, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
 08/31/2009 07:40 AM, Paul E Condon:
 Netinstall coupled to a d-i preseeding file can do the trick.
 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apb.html.en
 Where to force to use my mirrors?
 Although I change http.us.debian.org to my hostname, it goes to security 
 and volatile yet...
 I have done several installs using the most annal level of decision
 making. I do not recall a question about where to get the packages for
 the security updates. Without a question, I don't see how one can
 preseed an answer. Or am I missing something?

 Yeah, my problem is it is not prompted and forces me to fetch from
 security and volatile against my wish.

I'm pretty sure you can say no to security and volatile, if you use
'expert' install. 

And/but, I also pretty sure that if you say yes, you do not get a
chance to select the repository from which the packages are
fetched. It is this later problem that my suggestion addresses IMO.

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Re: avoid debian net installerto fetch security and volatile

2009-08-30 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi, Rakotomandimby_

On Saturday 29 August 2009 17:06:46 Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
 08/29/2009 05:04 PM, Jesús M. Navarro:
  Netinstall coupled to a d-i preseeding file can do the trick.
  http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apb.html.en


[...]

 Where to force to use my mirrors?
 Although I change http.us.debian.org to my hostname, it goes to security
 and volatile yet...

There's a preseed example on the docs:

### Mirror settings
# If you select ftp, the mirror/country string does not need to be set.
#d-i mirror/protocol string ftp
d-i mirror/country string manual
d-i mirror/http/hostname string apt.example.com:
d-i mirror/http/directory string /debian
#d-i mirror/http/proxy string

# Suite to install.
d-i mirror/suite string stable
# Suite to use for loading installer components (optional).
#d-i mirror/udeb/suite string testing

[...]

### Apt setup
# You can choose to install non-free and contrib software.
d-i apt-setup/non-free boolean true
d-i apt-setup/contrib boolean true
# Uncomment this if you don't want to use a network mirror.
#d-i apt-setup/use_mirror boolean false
# Select which update services to use; define the mirrors to be used.
# Values shown below are the normal defaults.
#d-i apt-setup/services-select multiselect security, volatile
d-i apt-setup/services-select multiselect security
d-i apt-setup/security_host string apt.example.com:/security
#d-i apt-setup/volatile_host string volatile.debian.org

# Additional repositories, local[0-9] available
#d-i apt-setup/local0/repository string \
#   http://local.server/debian stable main
#d-i apt-setup/local0/comment string local server
# Enable deb-src lines
#d-i apt-setup/local0/source boolean true
# URL to the public key of the local repository; you must provide a key or
# apt will complain about the unauthenticated repository and so the
# sources.list line will be left commented out
#d-i apt-setup/local0/key string http://local.server/key

# By default the installer requires that repositories be authenticated
# using a known gpg key. This setting can be used to disable that
# authentication. Warning: Insecure, not recommended.
#d-i debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated string true


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Re: avoid debian net installerto fetch security and volatile

2009-08-30 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-08-29_18:06:46, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
 08/29/2009 05:04 PM, Jes?s M. Navarro:
 Netinstall coupled to a d-i preseeding file can do the trick.
 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apb.html.en

 Reading the documentation:
 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs04.html.en
 # If you select ftp, the mirror/country string does not need to be set.
 #d-i mirror/protocol string ftp
 d-i mirror/country string manual
 d-i mirror/http/hostname string http.us.debian.org
 d-i mirror/http/directory string /debian
 d-i mirror/http/proxy string
 # Suite to install.
 #d-i mirror/suite string testing
 # Suite to use for loading installer components (optional).
 #d-i mirror/udeb/suite string testing

 Where to force to use my mirrors?
 Although I change http.us.debian.org to my hostname, it goes to security and 
 volatile yet...

I have done several installs using the most annal level of decision
making. I do not recall a question about where to get the packages for
the security updates. Without a question, I don't see how one can
preseed an answer. Or am I missing something?

Anyway, I do recall seeing a question as to whether or not you want to
fetch the security updates. Since you are intending to fetch the main
body of packages from a local mirror, I see no danger in you answering
'no' during the installation and then as a first bit of maintenance on
the new system, install the security updates through your local
mirror. I have done this (without ever using preseed). I know approx
handles security and volatile for everyday local mirroring which you
will probably want to do anyway. This first package update will
preseed your mirror (a very different use of the word 'preseed' ;-)

For approx, these are to two lines in approx.conf:

securityhttp://security.debian.org/debian-security
volatilehttp://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile

For debian main, you should point approx to a local mirror in your part
of the world. 

HTH

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Re: avoid debian net installerto fetch security and volatile

2009-08-29 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi, Rakotomandimby:

On Saturday 29 August 2009 09:55:23 Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have mirrored security and volatile on may LAN.
 I want to netinstall debian, and it fetches security and volatile.

Have you tried netinstall's expert mode?  I've been told that last Lenny 
installer now asks the repo path for security too.

 Would you know a ressource where I could modify that behaviour and force
 it to use my local repos?

Netinstall coupled to a d-i preseeding file can do the trick.
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apb.html.en

Maybe you want to stablish a whole Boot-PXE plus netinstall preseeding for 
your environment:
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478


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Re: avoid debian net installerto fetch security and volatile

2009-08-29 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina

08/29/2009 05:04 PM, Jesús M. Navarro::

I have mirrored security and volatile on may LAN.
I want to netinstall debian, and it fetches security and volatile.

Have you tried netinstall's expert mode?  I've been told that last Lenny
installer now asks the repo path for security too.


I dont have that first menus, as well as I install from console, with minicom.
The hardware is this:
http://lannerinc.com/Network_Application_Platforms/x86_Network_Appliance/Desktop-Fanless_Appliances/FW-7522


Would you know a ressource where I could modify that behaviour and force
it to use my local repos?

Netinstall coupled to a d-i preseeding file can do the trick.
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apb.html.en


Thanks.


Maybe you want to stablish a whole Boot-PXE plus netinstall preseeding for
your environment:
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478


This hardware, as far as I explored the BIOS is not able to boot on the network 
device.


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Re: avoid debian net installerto fetch security and volatile

2009-08-29 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina

08/29/2009 05:04 PM, Jesús M. Navarro:

Netinstall coupled to a d-i preseeding file can do the trick.
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apb.html.en


Reading the documentation:
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs04.html.en
# If you select ftp, the mirror/country string does not need to be set.
#d-i mirror/protocol string ftp
d-i mirror/country string manual
d-i mirror/http/hostname string http.us.debian.org
d-i mirror/http/directory string /debian
d-i mirror/http/proxy string
# Suite to install.
#d-i mirror/suite string testing
# Suite to use for loading installer components (optional).
#d-i mirror/udeb/suite string testing

Where to force to use my mirrors?
Although I change http.us.debian.org to my hostname, it goes to security and 
volatile yet...

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