Re: bug 530024 on squeeze

2010-08-03 Thread Joao Ferreira gmail
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 22:39 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 17:13:03 -0400
 John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com wrote:
 
 Hello John,
 
  I wonder if this is why there are some many problems with Evolution
  2.30 breaking.  From those threads, it seems that Evolution is looking
 
 I don't use Evo, but from what you say, it seems highly likely that
 Network Manager's bug is the problem.

I use Evolution and yes, Evolutio relies on NM to determine if a
connection is up or not

If NM says there is no connection, then Evo will go into Offline mode;
sometimes I need to tell it to Work Online in order to have it work.

jmf


 


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Re: bug 530024 on squeeze

2010-08-03 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 11:12:45AM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:48:14 +0100, Joao Ferreira gmail wrote:
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530024
...
 Mmm, if the bug is that ethernet cards are not detected/recognized by 
 default by NM, yes, the problem is still there, at least for me.
 
 (not really a problem because I never use NM :-P)
 
 Side note: ethernet card is fully available/operative, just NM detects 
 nothing.

Is this bug?  This seems to me user configuration issue.  I am basically
follwing: README.Debian NEWS.Debian.gz of network-manager Just disable
eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces like:


# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
#allow-hotplug eth0
#iface eth0 inet dhcp
-

Then NM will detect eth0




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Re: bug 530024 on squeeze

2010-08-03 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 00:29:59 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 11:12:45AM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:48:14 +0100, Joao Ferreira gmail wrote:
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530024
 ...
 Mmm, if the bug is that ethernet cards are not detected/recognized by
 default by NM, yes, the problem is still there, at least for me.
 
 (not really a problem because I never use NM :-P)
 
 Side note: ethernet card is fully available/operative, just NM detects
 nothing.
 
 Is this bug?  

Not for me. But having the NM applet started by default and seeing no 
ethernet device there (but working) is a bit confusing for users who want 
to use NM. 

 This seems to me user configuration issue.  I am basically
 follwing: README.Debian NEWS.Debian.gz of network-manager Just disable
 eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces like:
 
 
 # The loopback network interface
 auto lo
 iface lo inet loopback
 
 # The primary network interface
 #allow-hotplug eth0
 #iface eth0 inet dhcp
 -
 
 Then NM will detect eth0

Yes, and that's quite similar to the information that the bug report 
(comment #1) refers to.

Greetings,

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Re: bug 530024 on squeeze

2010-08-03 Thread Joao Ferreira gmail
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 16:15 +, Camaleón wrote:
  Is this bug?  
 
 Not for me. But having the NM applet started by default and seeing no 
 ethernet device there (but working) is a bit confusing for users who
 want 
 to use NM. 

agree ! :)

if NM is a feature in Debian (and affects other SW components) then it
should be operating properly on a fresh install... 

... or fully disabled !

but, no... I would also not call it a bug... just an issue :)

jmf



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Re: bug 530024 on squeeze

2010-08-02 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:48:14 +0100, Joao Ferreira gmail wrote:

 can anyone confirm the status of this issue in current Squeeze ? I also
 had this problem some months ago but I ended up installing Lenny
 (because of other reasons too)
 
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530024
 
 ... or has anyone been able to safelly overcome the issue without any
 side impacts... :)

Mmm, if the bug is that ethernet cards are not detected/recognized by 
default by NM, yes, the problem is still there, at least for me.

(not really a problem because I never use NM :-P)

Side note: ethernet card is fully available/operative, just NM detects 
nothing.

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Re: bug 530024 on squeeze

2010-08-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:48:14 +0100
Joao Ferreira gmail joao.miguel.c.ferre...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Joao,

 ... or has anyone been able to safelly overcome the issue without any
 side impacts... :)

My connection comes up at boot and that's all I care about.  The fact
that it's not available to Network Manager doesn't worry me.

Maybe it should, though   :-)

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Re: bug 530024 on squeeze

2010-08-02 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 11:22 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:48:14 +0100
 Joao Ferreira gmail joao.miguel.c.ferre...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Joao,
 
  ... or has anyone been able to safelly overcome the issue without any
  side impacts... :)
 
 My connection comes up at boot and that's all I care about.  The fact
 that it's not available to Network Manager doesn't worry me.
 
 Maybe it should, though   :-)
 
I wonder if this is why there are some many problems with Evolution 2.30
breaking.  From those threads, it seems that Evolution is looking to
Network Manager and, if the interface isn't managed, Evolution assumes
there is no network.  At least, that's what I took as the gist of those
threads - John


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Re: bug 530024 on squeeze

2010-08-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 17:13:03 -0400
John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com wrote:

Hello John,

 I wonder if this is why there are some many problems with Evolution
 2.30 breaking.  From those threads, it seems that Evolution is looking

I don't use Evo, but from what you say, it seems highly likely that
Network Manager's bug is the problem.

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