Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 21:05:27 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: On 8/24/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 10:46:13 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: On 8/24/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 22:38:27 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: On 8/23/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 01:25:47 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: On 8/21/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 12:29:53 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: I finally have the chance to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in recovery mode but it didn't have anything with (EE) or (WW). And in recovery mode, I can shutdown properly with shutdown -h now. [...] This still looks like a crash of the graphics driver during mode switching to me. (Did you also try this with the vesa driver?) If you are at the graphical login screen, can you switch to a terminal with CTRL + ALT + F1 (or F2, ..., F6)? I tried vesa, but the screen is not very stable and I can logoff once and then when I login again, I couldn't log off like I was using i810. I would still like to know whether your system hangs if you try to switch to a terminal without shutting down gdm. If I have a graphical login prompt and press CTRL + ALT + Back I can go to a text mode login prompt but immediately I will go back to the graphical login prompt. I think that is the default behavior of gdm: It respawns X if X is killed suddenly. So maybe this is not related to the graphics driver after all. If you cannot find any further clues in /var/log/syslog /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~/.xsession-errors (after a crash and a reboot into single-user mode) then I don't know where to look next. If you have another computer on the same LAN then it might be worthwhile to try if you can still log in remotely with ssh after the problematic system freezes. -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
Manu Hack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 8/24/07, Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would still like to know whether your system hangs if you try to switch to a terminal without shutting down gdm. If I have a graphical login prompt and press CTRL + ALT + Back I can go to a text mode login prompt but immediately I will go back to the Use CTRL-ALT-F1 (or -F2, -F3, ...) to get to the console. From there, ALT-F7 goes back to X, which will still be running. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
Manu Hack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the next thing to try is if X blocks the shutdown or if something else in runlevel 2 is responsible. Shut down X and/or stop the graphical login manager with invoke-rc.d gdm stop Maybe a more detailed way to do so is helpful to me for if I run the above command the screen goes black and I lose control of everything. If you don't get a login prompt then press Alt-F1 (or F2 - F6). Login as root and run 'shutdown'. HTH, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
And my 2 (problem) cents here... I have debian lenny on my laptop with KDE and since I installed it, there were two problems: It could not log off everytime (right click and log-out sometimes was ignored, even if I did it a hundred times), and second, acpi could not switch the laptop off: the last messages on the screen were (something like): unmounting local filesystems shutdown acpi power off called and there it stayed. So, the first problem has not reappeared during the last two months (a upgrade resolved it probably), as for the second, I discovered that unloading the sound (??) modules before shutdown, lets the laptop switch off... modprobe -r snd-hda-intel modprobe -r snd-hda-codec Anyway... G. Andrei Popescu wrote: Manu Hack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the next thing to try is if X blocks the shutdown or if something else in runlevel 2 is responsible. Shut down X and/or stop the graphical login manager with invoke-rc.d gdm stop Maybe a more detailed way to do so is helpful to me for if I run the above command the screen goes black and I lose control of everything. If you don't get a login prompt then press Alt-F1 (or F2 - F6). Login as root and run 'shutdown'. HTH, Andrei -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 22:38:27 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: On 8/23/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 01:25:47 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: On 8/21/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 12:29:53 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: I finally have the chance to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in recovery mode but it didn't have anything with (EE) or (WW). And in recovery mode, I can shutdown properly with shutdown -h now. That suggests to me that the shutdown problem might be related to the video driver that you use for Xorg. Any more suggestion? Did you try the vesa driver already? (as I suggested earlier) Yes, it turns out that similar problem is still there. Which video card do you have and which driver do you normally use? I have been using i810 for a while and before it had no problem until an update months ago. Which Intel card is it? How is the driver configured? Are there any warnings or errors in xorg's log? Run the following commands and post the output: lspci | egrep -i 'vga|graphic|display|video' 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) I have the exact same hardware on my laptop and I don't have any problems with shutting down or restarting X. awk '/Section (Device|Monitor)/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section Device Identifier Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device Driver i810 BusID PCI:0:2:0 I use intel instead of i810. This should not matter if you have the newest version of the driver since the i810 is only a legacy symlink nowadays which points to the intel module. What is your output for: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-{intel,i810} | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}' EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Generic Monitor Option DPMS EndSection egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log [ snip: harmless fontpath noise ] (EE) intel(0): detecting sil164 (EE) intel(0): Unable to read from DVOI2C_E Slave 112. (WW) intel(0): xf86AllocateGARTMemory: allocation of 10 pages failed I see the same currently; this seems to be a regression of the new driver for older cards. I have not found a way to fix this yet. The only effect of this seems to be that X takes two tries to start up and then works normally. (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23 [ snip: similar warnings, counting up to 0x32 ] I see the same. X -version X Window System Version 1.3.0 Release Date: 19 April 2007 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3 Build Operating System: Linux Debian (xorg-server 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12) Current Operating System: Linux debian 2.6.21-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Jul 11 03:53:02 UTC 2007 i686 Build Date: 09 August 2007 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present I run the same version. Also, are there any interesting entries in /var/log/syslog around the time of the crashes/freezes? I don't think so. I think the next thing to try is if X blocks the shutdown or if something else in runlevel 2 is responsible. Shut down X and/or stop the graphical login manager with invoke-rc.d gdm stop Maybe a more detailed way to do so is helpful to me for if I run the above command the screen goes black and I lose control of everything. This still looks like a crash of the graphics driver during mode switching to me. (Did you also try this with the vesa driver?) If you are at the graphical login screen, can you switch to a terminal with CTRL + ALT + F1 (or F2, ..., F6)? Unless you can find a related message in either the syslog or the xorg log I don't know how to track this down. The only other thing I can think of right now is having a look at your loaded modules; what is your output for lsmod | egrep 'i(810|830|915)|drm|agp|i2c' ? -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
On 8/24/07, Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 22:38:27 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: On 8/23/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 01:25:47 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: On 8/21/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 12:29:53 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: I finally have the chance to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in recovery mode but it didn't have anything with (EE) or (WW). And in recovery mode, I can shutdown properly with shutdown -h now. That suggests to me that the shutdown problem might be related to the video driver that you use for Xorg. Any more suggestion? Did you try the vesa driver already? (as I suggested earlier) Yes, it turns out that similar problem is still there. Which video card do you have and which driver do you normally use? I have been using i810 for a while and before it had no problem until an update months ago. Which Intel card is it? How is the driver configured? Are there any warnings or errors in xorg's log? Run the following commands and post the output: lspci | egrep -i 'vga|graphic|display|video' 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) I have the exact same hardware on my laptop and I don't have any problems with shutting down or restarting X. awk '/Section (Device|Monitor)/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section Device Identifier Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device Driver i810 BusID PCI:0:2:0 I use intel instead of i810. This should not matter if you have the newest version of the driver since the i810 is only a legacy symlink nowadays which points to the intel module. What is your output for: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-{intel,i810} | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}' ii xserver-xorg-video-i810 2:2.1.0-2 ii xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.1.0-2 Also, are there any interesting entries in /var/log/syslog around the time of the crashes/freezes? I don't think so. I think the next thing to try is if X blocks the shutdown or if something else in runlevel 2 is responsible. Shut down X and/or stop the graphical login manager with invoke-rc.d gdm stop Maybe a more detailed way to do so is helpful to me for if I run the above command the screen goes black and I lose control of everything. This still looks like a crash of the graphics driver during mode switching to me. (Did you also try this with the vesa driver?) If you are at the graphical login screen, can you switch to a terminal with CTRL + ALT + F1 (or F2, ..., F6)? I tried vesa, but the screen is not very stable and I can logoff once and then when I login again, I couldn't log off like I was using i810. Unless you can find a related message in either the syslog or the xorg log I don't know how to track this down. The only other thing I can think of right now is having a look at your loaded modules; what is your output for lsmod | egrep 'i(810|830|915)|drm|agp|i2c' ? i915 21280 3 drm73908 4 i915 intel_agp 23004 1 agpgart32168 3 drm,intel_agp Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 10:46:13 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: On 8/24/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 22:38:27 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: On 8/23/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 01:25:47 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: On 8/21/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 12:29:53 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: I finally have the chance to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in recovery mode but it didn't have anything with (EE) or (WW). And in recovery mode, I can shutdown properly with shutdown -h now. That suggests to me that the shutdown problem might be related to the video driver that you use for Xorg. [...] lspci | egrep -i 'vga|graphic|display|video' 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) I have the exact same hardware on my laptop and I don't have any problems with shutting down or restarting X. awk '/Section (Device|Monitor)/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section Device Identifier Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device Driver i810 BusID PCI:0:2:0 I use intel instead of i810. This should not matter if you have the newest version of the driver since the i810 is only a legacy symlink nowadays which points to the intel module. What is your output for: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-{intel,i810} | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}' ii xserver-xorg-video-i810 2:2.1.0-2 ii xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.1.0-2 I have slightly newer versions right now since I track Sid, but I don't recall any problems in the recent past. Also, are there any interesting entries in /var/log/syslog around the time of the crashes/freezes? I don't think so. I think the next thing to try is if X blocks the shutdown or if something else in runlevel 2 is responsible. Shut down X and/or stop the graphical login manager with invoke-rc.d gdm stop Maybe a more detailed way to do so is helpful to me for if I run the above command the screen goes black and I lose control of everything. This still looks like a crash of the graphics driver during mode switching to me. (Did you also try this with the vesa driver?) If you are at the graphical login screen, can you switch to a terminal with CTRL + ALT + F1 (or F2, ..., F6)? I tried vesa, but the screen is not very stable and I can logoff once and then when I login again, I couldn't log off like I was using i810. I would still like to know whether your system hangs if you try to switch to a terminal without shutting down gdm. Unless you can find a related message in either the syslog or the xorg log I don't know how to track this down. The only other thing I can think of right now is having a look at your loaded modules; what is your output for lsmod | egrep 'i(810|830|915)|drm|agp|i2c' i915 21280 3 drm73908 4 i915 intel_agp 23004 1 agpgart32168 3 drm,intel_agp That looks OK to me. (I have compiled drm, intel_agp and agpgart into my kernel, but that should not make a difference.) You do not seem to have any i2c-related modules loaded. I am not sure if this is relevant, but you do have these somewhat ominous DVOI2C errors in your xorg log. Does your system have an SMBus? Post the output of lspci | egrep -i 'i2c|smb' -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
On 8/24/07, Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 10:46:13 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: On 8/24/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 22:38:27 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: On 8/23/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 01:25:47 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: On 8/21/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 12:29:53 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: I finally have the chance to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in recovery mode but it didn't have anything with (EE) or (WW). And in recovery mode, I can shutdown properly with shutdown -h now. That suggests to me that the shutdown problem might be related to the video driver that you use for Xorg. [...] lspci | egrep -i 'vga|graphic|display|video' 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) I have the exact same hardware on my laptop and I don't have any problems with shutting down or restarting X. awk '/Section (Device|Monitor)/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section Device Identifier Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device Driver i810 BusID PCI:0:2:0 I use intel instead of i810. This should not matter if you have the newest version of the driver since the i810 is only a legacy symlink nowadays which points to the intel module. What is your output for: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-{intel,i810} | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}' ii xserver-xorg-video-i810 2:2.1.0-2 ii xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.1.0-2 I'm hoping in the next update I won't have the same problem. :) I have slightly newer versions right now since I track Sid, but I don't recall any problems in the recent past. Also, are there any interesting entries in /var/log/syslog around the time of the crashes/freezes? I don't think so. I think the next thing to try is if X blocks the shutdown or if something else in runlevel 2 is responsible. Shut down X and/or stop the graphical login manager with invoke-rc.d gdm stop Maybe a more detailed way to do so is helpful to me for if I run the above command the screen goes black and I lose control of everything. This still looks like a crash of the graphics driver during mode switching to me. (Did you also try this with the vesa driver?) If you are at the graphical login screen, can you switch to a terminal with CTRL + ALT + F1 (or F2, ..., F6)? I tried vesa, but the screen is not very stable and I can logoff once and then when I login again, I couldn't log off like I was using i810. I would still like to know whether your system hangs if you try to switch to a terminal without shutting down gdm. If I have a graphical login prompt and press CTRL + ALT + Back I can go to a text mode login prompt but immediately I will go back to the graphical login prompt. Unless you can find a related message in either the syslog or the xorg log I don't know how to track this down. The only other thing I can think of right now is having a look at your loaded modules; what is your output for lsmod | egrep 'i(810|830|915)|drm|agp|i2c' i915 21280 3 drm73908 4 i915 intel_agp 23004 1 agpgart32168 3 drm,intel_agp That looks OK to me. (I have compiled drm, intel_agp and agpgart into my kernel, but that should not make a difference.) You do not seem to have any i2c-related modules loaded. I am not sure if this is relevant, but you do have these somewhat ominous DVOI2C errors in your xorg log. Does your system have an SMBus? Post the output of lspci | egrep -i 'i2c|smb' No output for this one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 01:25:47 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: On 8/21/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 12:29:53 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: I finally have the chance to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in recovery mode but it didn't have anything with (EE) or (WW). And in recovery mode, I can shutdown properly with shutdown -h now. That suggests to me that the shutdown problem might be related to the video driver that you use for Xorg. Any more suggestion? Did you try the vesa driver already? (as I suggested earlier) Yes, it turns out that similar problem is still there. Which video card do you have and which driver do you normally use? I have been using i810 for a while and before it had no problem until an update months ago. Which Intel card is it? How is the driver configured? Are there any warnings or errors in xorg's log? Run the following commands and post the output: lspci | egrep -i 'vga|graphic|display|video' awk '/Section (Device|Monitor)/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log X -version Also, are there any interesting entries in /var/log/syslog around the time of the crashes/freezes? I don't think so. I think the next thing to try is if X blocks the shutdown or if something else in runlevel 2 is responsible. Shut down X and/or stop the graphical login manager with invoke-rc.d gdm stop and check if you can shut down the system then. (Replace gdm with kdm or xdm if necessary.) -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
On 8/23/07, Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 01:25:47 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: On 8/21/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 12:29:53 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: I finally have the chance to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in recovery mode but it didn't have anything with (EE) or (WW). And in recovery mode, I can shutdown properly with shutdown -h now. That suggests to me that the shutdown problem might be related to the video driver that you use for Xorg. Any more suggestion? Did you try the vesa driver already? (as I suggested earlier) Yes, it turns out that similar problem is still there. Which video card do you have and which driver do you normally use? I have been using i810 for a while and before it had no problem until an update months ago. Which Intel card is it? How is the driver configured? Are there any warnings or errors in xorg's log? Run the following commands and post the output: lspci | egrep -i 'vga|graphic|display|video' 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) awk '/Section (Device|Monitor)/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section Device Identifier Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device Driver i810 BusID PCI:0:2:0 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Generic Monitor Option DPMS EndSection egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic does not exist. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ does not exist. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ does not exist. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 does not exist. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi does not exist. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi does not exist. (WW) Including the default font path /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType. (EE) intel(0): detecting sil164 (EE) intel(0): Unable to read from DVOI2C_E Slave 112. (WW) intel(0): xf86AllocateGARTMemory: allocation of 10 pages failed (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x24 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x25 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x26 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x27 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x28 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x29 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2a (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2b (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2c (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2d (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2e (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2f (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x30 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x31 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x32 X -version X Window System Version 1.3.0 Release Date: 19 April 2007 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3 Build Operating System: Linux Debian (xorg-server 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12) Current Operating System: Linux debian 2.6.21-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Jul 11 03:53:02 UTC 2007 i686 Build Date: 09 August 2007 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Also, are there any interesting entries in /var/log/syslog around the time of the crashes/freezes? I don't think so. I think the next thing to try is if X blocks the shutdown or if something else in runlevel 2 is responsible. Shut down X and/or stop the graphical login manager with invoke-rc.d gdm stop Maybe a more detailed way to do so is helpful to me for if I run the above command the screen goes black and I lose control of everything. Thanks a lot!! \ Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
I finally have the chance to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in recovery mode but it didn't have anything with (EE) or (WW). And in recovery mode, I can shutdown properly with shutdown -h now. Any more suggestion? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
[ You should leave some context in your messages, especially if you are reviving a thread which has been inactive for almost a month; otherwise people might mistake you for one of those special posters from debianhelp.org... ] On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 12:29:53 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: I finally have the chance to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in recovery mode but it didn't have anything with (EE) or (WW). And in recovery mode, I can shutdown properly with shutdown -h now. That suggests to me that the shutdown problem might be related to the video driver that you use for Xorg. Any more suggestion? Did you try the vesa driver already? (as I suggested earlier) Which video card do you have and which driver do you normally use? Also, are there any interesting entries in /var/log/syslog around the time of the crashes/freezes? -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
On 8/21/07, Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ You should leave some context in your messages, especially if you are reviving a thread which has been inactive for almost a month; otherwise people might mistake you for one of those special posters from debianhelp.org... ] will remember to do that next time! On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 12:29:53 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: I finally have the chance to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in recovery mode but it didn't have anything with (EE) or (WW). And in recovery mode, I can shutdown properly with shutdown -h now. That suggests to me that the shutdown problem might be related to the video driver that you use for Xorg. Any more suggestion? Did you try the vesa driver already? (as I suggested earlier) Yes, it turns out that similar problem is still there. Which video card do you have and which driver do you normally use? I have been using i810 for a while and before it had no problem until an update months ago. Also, are there any interesting entries in /var/log/syslog around the time of the crashes/freezes? I don't think so. Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
From time to time I have a similar problem on a Compaq notebook with ATI graphic card. In my case the display comes back after pushing the little pin shortly which is pressed down by the lid when closing the notebook. -- Regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 09:46:04 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: Hi all, I'm running lenny. recently after upgrade to 2.6.21, I found that I couldn't logoff/shutdown properly from KDE/GNOME/windowmaker. By properly I mean whenever I choose logoff, usually KDM/GDM can take over and give me a login prompt but now it just goes blank and nothing can be done (including alt control back or F1) but pressing the power button to turn it off. What could go wrong? Thank a lot. Let me know what further information you need to investigate the issue. This could be a problem with the video driver which crashes the computer. You could try to switch to the generic vesa driver. You should also try to get a look at the Xorg log file after the crash. The problem is that this file cleaned out when Xorg starts again, so you have to keep Xorg from starting again when you switch the computer off and on again after a crash. You could boot into single user mode, for example. Then you can have a look at the end of the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log especially at lines that start with (EE) or (WW). -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]