Re: connect Ethernet to WiFi?

[Ron]

On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:17:07 -0700
Thomas D Dial  wrote:

> A quick way to get a compatible USB WiFi would be to order one for a
> Raspberry Pi from a store that sells the latter.  In the US I would use
> Newark.com.

Searching Amazon for "Raspberry pi wifi" brings up a multitude of offers, 
including those with external aerial.
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
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Re: connect Ethernet to WiFi?

[Thomas D Dial]

A quick way to get a compatible USB WiFi would be to order one for a
Raspberry Pi from a store that sells the latter.  In the US I would use
Newark.com.

Tom

On 02/18/2016 01:49 AM, Staszek wrote:
> Hi
> 
> How do I connect an old laptop without WiFi (but with free USB ports and
> working wired Ethernet card) running Debian stable to a WiFi network,
> without installing non-free software on the laptop? What devices would
> you recommend?
> 

Re: connect Ethernet to WiFi?

[Jude DaShiell]

I use a ralink adapter that came with an antenna I think about 4 inches 
long and it has no trouble communicating with a router two rooms away 
but I don't know far the router could be moved before the signal 
degraded.  The connector for the antenna is a screw on type.


On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Sven Arvidsson wrote:


Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 14:34:10
From: Sven Arvidsson <s...@whiz.se>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: connect Ethernet to WiFi?

On Thu, 2016-02-18 at 14:00 -0500, doug wrote:

I looked at the first url shown above, and I see two usb adapters 
smaller than a matchbook, and one with an antenna. Recently I had to
spend some time in a rehab center, and I did not have a Linux driver
for 
my old Dell laptop, so I bought something like one of those
small adapters. _Do not!_  As I should have known (being a retired
RF 
engineer) they have no range! The gadget with the antenna may
work. (I was trying to hit a "hot spot" external to the facility. I 
finally found a driver--not easy!--using Windows-- which allowed the 
internal
wifi system to work.) OTOH, if you're only trying to connect across
a 
room, the little matchbook size gadget will probably be OK.


I very much agree, I always buy the ones that can take a large external
antenna. With one of those I have no problem getting reception in the
basement, with the router two floors up.




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Re: connect Ethernet to WiFi?

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Thu, 2016-02-18 at 14:00 -0500, doug wrote:
> I looked at the first url shown above, and I see two usb adapters 
> smaller than a matchbook, and one with an antenna. Recently I had to
> spend some time in a rehab center, and I did not have a Linux driver
> for 
> my old Dell laptop, so I bought something like one of those
> small adapters. _Do not!_  As I should have known (being a retired
> RF 
> engineer) they have no range! The gadget with the antenna may
> work. (I was trying to hit a "hot spot" external to the facility. I 
> finally found a driver--not easy!--using Windows-- which allowed the 
> internal
> wifi system to work.) OTOH, if you're only trying to connect across
> a 
> room, the little matchbook size gadget will probably be OK.

I very much agree, I always buy the ones that can take a large external
antenna. With one of those I have no problem getting reception in the
basement, with the router two floors up.

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5



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Re: connect Ethernet to WiFi?

[doug]

On 02/18/2016 03:48 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

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http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/respects-your-freedom
https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi

How could I have forgotten about those? Thanks, Sven!

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I looked at the first url shown above, and I see two usb adapters 
smaller than a matchbook, and one with an antenna. Recently I had to
spend some time in a rehab center, and I did not have a Linux driver for 
my old Dell laptop, so I bought something like one of those
small adapters. _Do not!_  As I should have known (being a retired RF 
engineer) they have no range! The gadget with the antenna may
work. (I was trying to hit a "hot spot" external to the facility. I 
finally found a driver--not easy!--using Windows-- which allowed the 
internal
wifi system to work.) OTOH, if you're only trying to connect across a 
room, the little matchbook size gadget will probably be OK.

--doug

Re: connect Ethernet to WiFi?

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 10:27:28AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Look up asus: ea-n66 on the internet, one of those entries ought to be an
> wifi to ethernet adapter.  Unfortunately windows will probably be required
> with a modern browser to set it up.  I have one of these and couldn't do it
> using command line utilities even with javascript enabled.
> 
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Staszek wrote:
> 
> >Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 03:49:48
> >From: Staszek 
> >To: Debian users mailing list 
> >Subject: connect Ethernet to WiFi?
> >Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:58:14 + (UTC)
> >Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >
> >Hi
> >
> >How do I connect an old laptop without WiFi (but with free USB ports and
> >working wired Ethernet card) running Debian stable to a WiFi network,
> >without installing non-free software on the laptop? What devices would
> >you recommend?
> >
> >
> 
> -- 

USB-WiFi dongle - Edimax UW-7811N or some such. Most of the Edimax devices
just work.

Raspberry Pi official dongle would probably also work.

Anything on the FSF free hardware list - what do they suggest?

HTH,

AndyC

Re: connect Ethernet to WiFi?

[Jude DaShiell]

Look up asus: ea-n66 on the internet, one of those entries ought to be 
an wifi to ethernet adapter.  Unfortunately windows will probably be 
required with a modern browser to set it up.  I have one of these and 
couldn't do it using command line utilities even with javascript 
enabled.


On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Staszek wrote:


Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 03:49:48
From: Staszek 
To: Debian users mailing list 
Subject: connect Ethernet to WiFi?
Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:58:14 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

Hi

How do I connect an old laptop without WiFi (but with free USB ports and
working wired Ethernet card) running Debian stable to a WiFi network,
without installing non-free software on the laptop? What devices would
you recommend?




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Re: connect Ethernet to WiFi?

[tomas]

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On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 10:20:25AM +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote:

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> http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/respects-your-freedom
> https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi

How could I have forgotten about those? Thanks, Sven!

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Re: connect Ethernet to WiFi?

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Thu, 2016-02-18 at 09:49 +0100, Staszek wrote:
> How do I connect an old laptop without WiFi (but with free USB ports
> and
> working wired Ethernet card) running Debian stable to a WiFi network,
> without installing non-free software on the laptop? What devices
> would
> you recommend?

Either a WiFi to Ethernet adapter, or a USB WiFi adapter. This is a
good start for alternatives:
http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/respects-your-freedom

You can also check the drivers listed here, some of them mentions if
non-free firmware is required or not: 
https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi


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Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
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[tomas]

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On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 09:49:48AM +0100, Staszek wrote:
> Hi
> 
> How do I connect an old laptop without WiFi (but with free USB ports and
> working wired Ethernet card) running Debian stable to a WiFi network,
> without installing non-free software on the laptop? What devices would
> you recommend?

You need an USB WiFi adapter. Most relevant wrt compatibility with free
drivers is the WiFi chipset inside the thing. In [1] you find a small
list, probably there are more.

I have little experience in the last years, I'm sure there is some
hardware list out there. I've made good experience with Atheros
chipsets, but that's ~10 years ago and those things change quickly.

Regards

[1] 
http://www.wirelesshack.org/top-kali-linux-compatible-usb-adapters-dongles-2015.html

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