Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

[SteveA]

Good to know, thanks.

Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

[Richard Hector]

On 27/11/16 04:53, iqwue Wabv wrote:
> 1) jessie wifi doesn't work because lack of drivers for Intel® Dual Band
> Wireless-AC 8260
> 
> which is only available in >4.1 linux kernel. So I have to upgrade my
> installation from jessie to testing
> 

FWIW, newer kernels are available in jessie-backports; you don't need to
upgrade the whole thing just for that.

Richard




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Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 28 November 2016 13:09:06 Richard Hector wrote:
> On 27/11/16 04:53, iqwue Wabv wrote:
> > 1) jessie wifi doesn't work because lack of drivers for Intel® Dual Band
> > Wireless-AC 8260
> >
> > which is only available in >4.1 linux kernel. So I have to upgrade my
> > installation from jessie to testing
>
> FWIW, newer kernels are available in jessie-backports; you don't need to
> upgrade the whole thing just for that.
>
> Richard

As of now, only 4.7, which has been getting a bad write-up on this list over 
the last few days.  4.4 doesn't seem to be there any more.

Lisi

Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

[Greg Wooledge]

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 04:57:12PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Monday 28 November 2016 13:09:06 Richard Hector wrote:
> > FWIW, newer kernels are available in jessie-backports; you don't need to
> > upgrade the whole thing just for that.
> 
> As of now, only 4.7, which has been getting a bad write-up on this list over 
> the last few days.  4.4 doesn't seem to be there any more.

But 4.6 is.

linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 - Linux 4.6 for 64-bit PCs

Many people are successfully using the 4.7 kernel, too.  It all depends
on which of the kernel features you actually need for your machine and
your programs.

Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 28 November 2016 16:58:49 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 04:57:12PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Monday 28 November 2016 13:09:06 Richard Hector wrote:
> > > FWIW, newer kernels are available in jessie-backports; you don't need
> > > to upgrade the whole thing just for that.
> >
> > As of now, only 4.7, which has been getting a bad write-up on this list
> > over the last few days.  4.4 doesn't seem to be there any more.
>
> But 4.6 is.
>
> linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 - Linux 4.6 for 64-bit PCs
>
> Many people are successfully using the 4.7 kernel, too.  It all depends
> on which of the kernel features you actually need for your machine and
> your programs.

lisi@Eros:~$ aptitude search linux-image
i   linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 - Linux 3.16 for 64-bit PCs
p   linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64-dbg - Debugging symbols for Linux 
3.16.0-4-amd64
p   linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64- Linux 4.7 for 64-bit PCs 
(signed)
p   linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-dbg- Debugging symbols for Linux 
4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
p   linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-unsigned   - Linux 4.7 for 64-bit PCs
p   linux-image-4.7.0-1-grsec-amd64- Linux 4.7 for 64-bit PCs, 
Grsecurity protection
i   linux-image-amd64  - Linux for 64-bit PCs 
(meta-package)
p   linux-image-amd64-dbg  - Debugging symbols for Linux 
amd64 configuration (met
p   linux-image-grsec-amd64- Linux image meta-package, 
grsec featureset
lisi@Eros:~$


Lisi

Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

[Greg Wooledge]

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 05:26:58PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> lisi@Eros:~$ aptitude search linux-image
> i   linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 - Linux 3.16 for 64-bit PCs
> p   linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64-dbg - Debugging symbols for Linux 
> 3.16.0-4-amd64
> p   linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64- Linux 4.7 for 64-bit PCs 
> (signed)
> p   linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-dbg- Debugging symbols for Linux 
> 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
> p   linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-unsigned   - Linux 4.7 for 64-bit PCs
> p   linux-image-4.7.0-1-grsec-amd64- Linux 4.7 for 64-bit PCs, 
> Grsecurity protection
> i   linux-image-amd64  - Linux for 64-bit PCs 
> (meta-package)
> p   linux-image-amd64-dbg  - Debugging symbols for Linux 
> amd64 configuration (met
> p   linux-image-grsec-amd64- Linux image meta-package, 
> grsec featureset
> lisi@Eros:~$
> 
> 
> Lisi

$ apt-cache search linux-image-4.6
linux-image-486 - Linux for older PCs (dummy package)
linux-headers-4.6.0-1-grsec-686-pae - Header files for Linux 
4.6.0-1-grsec-686-pae
linux-image-4.6.0-1-grsec-686-pae - Linux 4.6 for modern PCs, Grsecurity 
protection
linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 - Linux 4.6 for 64-bit PCs

$ apt-cache show linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
Package: linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: kernel
Installed-Size: 176653
Maintainer: Debian Kernel Team 
Architecture: amd64
Source: linux
Version: 4.6.4-1~bpo8+1
[...]

Dunno what to tell you.  Maybe it's because I have the package installed?
I don't know why that would affect apt-cache search/show.

Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

[Teemu Likonen]

Greg Wooledge [2016-11-28 12:43:44-05] wrote:

> $ apt-cache search linux-image-4.6

> $ apt-cache show linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64

> Dunno what to tell you. Maybe it's because I have the package
> installed? I don't know why that would affect apt-cache search/show.

You have kernel 4.6 installed. With "apt-cache policy" you can see where
package versions can be installed from.

apt-cache policy '^linux-image-4\.'

For kernel 4.6 you'll only this as the "source":

100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

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Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 29 November 2016 20:36:29 iqwue Wabv wrote:
> Richard,
>
> I didn't know that kernels > 4.1 are available as jessie-backports. Thanks.
> Regards, Karol

Only 4.7.  The others appear not to be available any more.

Lisi

Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

[Mirko Parthey]

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:59:35PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > I didn't know that kernels > 4.1 are available as jessie-backports. Thanks.
> > Regards, Karol
> 
> Only 4.7.  The others appear not to be available any more.

Older backports are available at http://snapshot.debian.org/.

Mirko

Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 30 November 2016 00:50:04 Mirko Parthey wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:59:35PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > I didn't know that kernels > 4.1 are available as jessie-backports.
> > > Thanks. Regards, Karol
> >
> > Only 4.7.  The others appear not to be available any more.
>
> Older backports are available at http://snapshot.debian.org/.
>
> Mirko

Yes, sorry.  I meant not at Jessie Backports.  There are lots of ways of 
acquiring them.

Lisi

Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

[Richard Hector]

On 30/11/16 11:59, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Tuesday 29 November 2016 20:36:29 iqwue Wabv wrote:
>> Richard,
>>
>> I didn't know that kernels > 4.1 are available as jessie-backports. Thanks.
>> Regards, Karol
> 
> Only 4.7.  The others appear not to be available any more.

Yes - there only ever appears to be one version at a time. And I'm a bit
less confident in using them than I was a few days ago, since the "Some
function keys not working on a ThinkPad" thread.

Richard




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Re: Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

[iqwue Wabv]

Richard,

I didn't know that kernels > 4.1 are available as jessie-backports. Thanks.
Regards, Karol