Re: debian testing amd64: X windows trouble after todays updates. (input events problem?)

2010-12-12 Thread Vuki

On 2010.12.10. 14:41, Peter Koellner wrote:
Well, I found the dpkg log with all the packages updated in that 
batch. one of them or a combination has to be responsible. I guess it 
might be desktop-base 6.0.2







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Re: debian testing amd64: X windows trouble after todays updates. (input events problem?)

2010-12-10 Thread Peter Koellner
Well, I am using debian testing on laptops since around 1999. 
Stable always seems to be missing the one or other driver or
configuration for that, sometimes I have to fall back to unstable. 
Anyway, what I do now - in fact, have already

done - is sending in a bug report. I still have my doubts that
desktop-base is the cause, since it really does not do very much. Only
the other packages are more unlikely to cause the effect.
Most of the time, such annoyances vanish after a few days, weeks or
months, until now I never had one like this that completely broke
usability.  So maybe I'll try to get
desktop-base 5.0.6 somewhere, take a look at the differences and try
to figure out if something there might be the cause. Only I had to
switch back to a working machine now to do something productive.

For your problem: Normally I use dselect and there '=' to fix a package
whenever I get this dependency upgrade problem where someone put a
minor version/release number in a dependency that really does not work with
the continouus upgrades in testing or unstable. I must admit that
I never bothered to find out what underlying dpkg
functionality that one uses to do its work.

On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Peter Koellner wrote:
Well, I found the dpkg log with all the packages updated in that batch. one 
of them or a combination has to be responsible. I guess it might be 
desktop-base 6.0.2






Indeed, but what are you going to do? I do a backup before a dist-upgrade, so 
I can fall back to something that works. But never doing an upgrade again is 
not an option. Pinning never seems to work for me: right now I want to pin 
mc, mondo and mindi, but it does not work, they get updated anyway:


Package: mc
Pin: version 4.6*
Pin-Priority: 1001
Package: wmtemp
Pin: version 0.0.6-3
Pin-Priority: 1001

Hugo





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Re: debian testing amd64: X windows trouble after todays updates. (input events problem?)

2010-12-10 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Peter Koellner wrote:
Well, I found the dpkg log with all the packages updated in that batch. 
one of them or a combination has to be responsible. I guess it might be 
desktop-base 6.0.2






Indeed, but what are you going to do? I do a backup before a 
dist-upgrade, so I can fall back to something that works. But never 
doing an upgrade again is not an option. Pinning never seems to work for 
me: right now I want to pin mc, mondo and mindi, but it does not work, 
they get updated anyway:


Package: mc
Pin: version 4.6*
Pin-Priority: 1001
Package: wmtemp
Pin: version 0.0.6-3
Pin-Priority: 1001

Hugo


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Re: debian testing amd64: X windows trouble after todays updates. (input events problem?)

2010-12-10 Thread Peter Koellner
Well, I found the dpkg log with all the packages updated in that batch. one of 
them or a combination has to be responsible. I guess it might be desktop-base 6.0.2




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Re: debian testing amd64: X windows trouble after todays updates. (input events problem?)

2010-12-10 Thread Peter Koellner

On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Peter Koellner wrote:

I switched between xdm and gdm, and the problem with unresponsive window 
manager and locked in focused window seems to go away with that, though I am 
not totally sure.



Today I am having the same effect after starting the gnome session via xdm, so the display manager 
has nothing to do with it. The input events seem to reach the window manager and gnome panels occasionally,

but I have to try for minutes until I am able to switch focus, close a window 
or start another application.
I don't see any error messages. This is an effect so bad I have not experienced ever with debian during the last 
twelve years or so. The gnome panel gets redrawn on schedule and I can use my application in keyboard focus,
but mouse events seem to have difficulties. xpdf left a dysfunctional menu on the display, when I try to 
click the Quit menu entry the mouseclick event reaches the gnome panel below instead and minimizes the xpdf window.

So I guess some part of the X input event handling got clobbered.



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