Re: devices compatible list

2000-02-23 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 Would appreciate a direct to a list of devices which are conmpatible
 with Debian.  My particular interest at the moment is 3Com 509 vs 905
 cards.

The best source for that information is the kernel source.

Incidentally, both of those cards are well supported by the Linux kernel.  
Personally, I would go with the 905; it's a PCI card thus is faster than
the 509 (an ISA card), and (for me, at least) cost about the same.

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Re: devices compatible list

2000-02-23 Thread TaoX { Brian Hinson; }
I'll second that info about the PCI 905 card. It would be a much better
investment... and it is faster than the ISA equiv... and it does work under
Debian, I have that particular one myself.

TaoX

 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

  Would appreciate a direct to a list of devices which are conmpatible
  with Debian.  My particular interest at the moment is 3Com 509 vs 905
  cards.

 The best source for that information is the kernel source.

 Incidentally, both of those cards are well supported by the Linux kernel.
 Personally, I would go with the 905; it's a PCI card thus is faster than
 the 509 (an ISA card), and (for me, at least) cost about the same.

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Re: devices compatible list

2000-02-23 Thread Allan M. Wind
On 2000-02-22 20:24:10, Bret Rice wrote:

 Would appreciate a direct to a list of devices which are conmpatible
 with Debian.  My particular interest at the moment is 3Com 509 vs 905
 cards.

Got two 905 in my box and haven't noticed any problem.  In the past, I
think the Intel EtherExpress Pro were favored though.  Might be worth
exploring.


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Re: devices compatible list

2000-02-23 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 11:58:50PM -0500, Allan M. Wind wrote:
 On 2000-02-22 20:24:10, Bret Rice wrote:
 
  Would appreciate a direct to a list of devices which are conmpatible
  with Debian.  My particular interest at the moment is 3Com 509 vs 905
  cards.
 
 Got two 905 in my box and haven't noticed any problem.  In the past, I
 think the Intel EtherExpress Pro were favored though.  Might be worth
 exploring.

In my biased opinion EtherExpress Pros are pieces of crap and should
be avoided at all costs.  They constantly spew driver errors.  I've
locked up machines after shoving a lot of traffic through them.

I do like the Netgear FA-310TX cards ... they're cheap but I've yet to
make one puke.  3Com are ok but expensive.  RTL8139 cards are cheap
and perform ok though according to the driver source the physical
design sucks.  AMD makes a card that uses the pcnet32 driver (IBM uses
these as onboard for the Netfinity line and also as their redundant
NIC; I assume other people sell them too).  Driver versions are
important for this card as anything pre-2.2.13 would spew into the kernel
log every now and again.

My advice, get a Netgear or some other tulip-based card.

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Re: devices compatible list

2000-02-23 Thread aphro
On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Bret Rice wrote:

blsoas Would appreciate a direct to a list of devices which are conmpatible
blsoas with Debian.  My particular interest at the moment is 3Com 509 vs 905
blsoas cards.

depends on the rev of card.  all are fully supported but i have found the
newest cards(3C905C) do not work well unless you update the driver
manually. on my systems i had thousands of collisions with an older driver
even though im on a switched network, and performance was crap.  once i
updated the driver it was great though.

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Re: devices compatible list

2000-02-23 Thread Brian May
 Allan == Allan M Wind [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Allan On 2000-02-22 20:24:10, Bret Rice wrote:
 Would appreciate a direct to a list of devices which are
 conmpatible with Debian.  My particular interest at the moment
 is 3Com 509 vs 905 cards.

Allan Got two 905 in my box and haven't noticed any problem.  In
Allan the past, I think the Intel EtherExpress Pro were favored
Allan though.  Might be worth exploring.

Is EtherExpress Pro any better then EtherExpress? EtherExpress support
seems unreliable (despite the help comment in Linux source) at best
and often spews out warnings (2.2.x), IIRC about unexpected
interrupts. I asked about this on the linux-kernel mailing list and
was told problems were expected.

Still, I have to admit it seems to work OK, but I don't particularly
trust it either.
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Re: devices compatible list

2000-02-23 Thread Allan M. Wind
On 2000-02-23 18:20:21, Brian May wrote:
  Allan == Allan M Wind [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is EtherExpress Pro any better then EtherExpress? EtherExpress support
 seems unreliable (despite the help comment in Linux source) at best
 and often spews out warnings (2.2.x), IIRC about unexpected
 interrupts. I asked about this on the linux-kernel mailing list and
 was told problems were expected.

I don't know Brian.

When I had spec out a couple of production quality machines (a year
ago), I looked through mailing lists and choose the Intel EtherExpress
Pro's over 3com 905 as the Intel NICs seemed to be the preferred ones
at that point.  As I said, I don't know if that is the case anymore
and I do have two 905 myself.  Not seem any problems but I am not
pushing them either.


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Re: devices compatible list

2000-02-23 Thread Ronald Tin
On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 11:58:50PM -0500, Allan M. Wind wrote:
 On 2000-02-22 20:24:10, Bret Rice wrote:
 
  Would appreciate a direct to a list of devices which are conmpatible
  with Debian.  My particular interest at the moment is 3Com 509 vs 905
  cards.
 
 Got two 905 in my box and haven't noticed any problem.  In the past, I
 think the Intel EtherExpress Pro were favored though.  Might be worth
 exploring.
 
Had heard that the kernel 3c59x driver freezes the computer
under some situation when used against 3c905C.

Have not seen anything strange personally, but doesn't hurt
to use the 3COM driver.. it's GPL'ed also.

http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/linux.htm


Re: devices compatible list

2000-02-23 Thread Ernest Johanson
One of the best sources for this would be the Linux Documentation Project.
One source is http://www.cc.gatech.edu/linux/LDP/. Have a look at the
Hardware Compatibility HOW-TO. Also the Ethernet HOW-TO. Those documents
contain links to other sites that will give you lots of info.

Ernest Johanson
Web Systems Administrator
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Bret Rice wrote:

 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:24:10 -0800
 From: Bret Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: devices compatible list
 
 Would appreciate a direct to a list of devices which are conmpatible
 with Debian.  My particular interest at the moment is 3Com 509 vs 905
 cards.
 thanks for the info,
 Bret