Re: dhclient No DHCPOFFERS received

2013-08-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle

On 8/7/2013 4:53 PM, Sean Alexandre wrote:

On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 09:29:57PM +0200, Slavko wrote:

is your network like this, please:

-
|ISP|
-
  |
  |
-
|   modem   |
-
  |
--
| |  |
 -  -  -
 |  Debian I |  | Debian II |  |  TP-Link  |
 -  -  -


or like this?

-
|ISP|
-
  |
  |
-
|   modem   |
-
  |
  |
-
|  TP-Link  |
-
  |
 --
 ||
  - -
  |  Debian I | | Debian II |
  - -


My network is like your first diagram, but with only one machine connected to
the modem at a time.




Getting a public address from a private DHCP server is not wrong.  The 
DHCP server may have been given those addresses by the upstream server 
for allocation.  That takes a load off the upstream server.


One thought.  Just because there is only one machine connected at a time 
does NOT mean the previous DHCP lease has been released.  It may still 
be considered active by the DHCP server.


For instance - if you hook up one machine and get a least, that lease 
may be good for an hour to a week (or more).  If you hook a second one 
up, that may also get a lease for the same amount of time.


Then if you disconnect the first two (or even disconnect the first 
machine before connecting the second machine) and only have two leases 
available, you will see this problem.


The cable company was not necessarily incorrect when telling you to 
power off the cable modem then powering it back on.  This will probably 
reset all leases.


What happens if you do power the cable modem off like they said then 
power it back on, followed by connecting only the failing machine?


And BTW - you said all of the computers have different MAC addresses.  I 
would hope so!  Hardware MAC addresses for a port are unique in the 
entire world - every one HAS to be different.  Of course some OS's allow 
you to override the hardware MAC address, but that's another story.



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Re: dhclient No DHCPOFFERS received

2013-08-07 Thread Andy Hawkins
Hi,

In article 20130807133856.GA6733@tuzo,
   Sean Alexandres...@alexan.org wrote:
 I've got two Debian Wheezy machines. One can connect to my cable modem fine,
 and gets an IP address. The other can't. They're both configured the same. Any
 ideas why this might be?

Apologies for suggesting something obvious you might already have thought
of, but I seem to recall my Cable provider's modem will only provide DHCP
addresses to a single MAC unless it's been correctly release (or perhaps the
Cable Modem re-powered).

Could it be as simple as that?

Andy


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Re: dhclient No DHCPOFFERS received

2013-08-07 Thread Sean Alexandre
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 02:57:58PM +, Andy Hawkins wrote:
 Sean Alexandres...@alexan.org wrote:
  I've got two Debian Wheezy machines. One can connect to my cable modem fine,
  and gets an IP address. The other can't. They're both configured the same. 
  Any
  ideas why this might be?
 
 Apologies for suggesting something obvious you might already have thought
 of, but I seem to recall my Cable provider's modem will only provide DHCP
 addresses to a single MAC unless it's been correctly release (or perhaps the
 Cable Modem re-powered).
 
 Could it be as simple as that?

No, unfortunately. I know it's not a MAC address issue. Both my TP-LINK home
router and the Debian Wheezy machine that works get DHCP leases without any
problems, and have different MAC addresses.

I also asked my ISP about this, when I had them on the line to bring up my
new cable modem. They said any MAC address is fine. Just power the cable
modem down for 30 seconds first.


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Re: dhclient No DHCPOFFERS received

2013-08-07 Thread Andy Hawkins
Hi,

In article 20130807164822.GA7727@tuzo,
   Sean Alexandres...@alexan.org wrote:
 No, unfortunately. I know it's not a MAC address issue. Both my TP-LINK home
 router and the Debian Wheezy machine that works get DHCP leases without any
 problems, and have different MAC addresses.

 I also asked my ISP about this, when I had them on the line to bring up my
 new cable modem. They said any MAC address is fine. Just power the cable
 modem down for 30 seconds first.

Ok, I did say I was kind of stating the obvious!

Next thing I'd be doing is using tshark or similar to sniff the traffic
being seen on the Debian box.

Andy


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Re: dhclient No DHCPOFFERS received

2013-08-07 Thread Klaus

On 07/08/13 18:24, Andy Hawkins wrote:

Hi,

In article 20130807164822.GA7727@tuzo,
Sean Alexandres...@alexan.org wrote:

No, unfortunately. I know it's not a MAC address issue. Both my TP-LINK home
router and the Debian Wheezy machine that works get DHCP leases without any
problems, and have different MAC addresses.

I also asked my ISP about this, when I had them on the line to bring up my
new cable modem. They said any MAC address is fine. Just power the cable
modem down for 30 seconds first.


Ok, I did say I was kind of stating the obvious!

Next thing I'd be doing is using tshark or similar to sniff the traffic
being seen on the Debian box.

Andy



Just more of the obvious stuff:
You say it's a new cable modem, there is a home router, and there is at 
least one other Debian Wheezy box.
Does your ISP provide you with one, or more than one IP address? If one, 
the router probably translates this public IP address to your 
private LAN. Does the router function as a DHCP server, or do you have 
a dedicated box on your LAN? Can you check the logs of your LAN DHCP 
server for entries matching the non-functioning box?




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Re: dhclient No DHCPOFFERS received

2013-08-07 Thread Sean Alexandre
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 05:24:57PM +, Andy Hawkins wrote:
 In article 20130807164822.GA7727@tuzo,
 Sean Alexandres...@alexan.org wrote:
  No, unfortunately. I know it's not a MAC address issue. Both my TP-LINK home
  router and the Debian Wheezy machine that works get DHCP leases without any
  problems, and have different MAC addresses.
 
  I also asked my ISP about this, when I had them on the line to bring up my
  new cable modem. They said any MAC address is fine. Just power the cable
  modem down for 30 seconds first.
 
 Ok, I did say I was kind of stating the obvious!
 
 Next thing I'd be doing is using tshark or similar to sniff the traffic
 being seen on the Debian box.

OK, thanks, that's where I was headed, but was hoping it was something more
obvious. I can get a tcpdump, but don't know DHCP very well. I'll take a look,
though, and see what I can figure out.


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Re: dhclient No DHCPOFFERS received

2013-08-07 Thread Sean Alexandre
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 07:16:45PM +0100, Klaus wrote:
 On 07/08/13 18:24, Andy Hawkins wrote:
 In article 20130807164822.GA7727@tuzo,
  Sean Alexandres...@alexan.org wrote:
 No, unfortunately. I know it's not a MAC address issue. Both my TP-LINK home
 router and the Debian Wheezy machine that works get DHCP leases without any
 problems, and have different MAC addresses.
 
 I also asked my ISP about this, when I had them on the line to bring up my
 new cable modem. They said any MAC address is fine. Just power the cable
 modem down for 30 seconds first.
 
 Ok, I did say I was kind of stating the obvious!
 
 Next thing I'd be doing is using tshark or similar to sniff the traffic
 being seen on the Debian box.
 
 Andy
 
 
 Just more of the obvious stuff:
 You say it's a new cable modem, there is a home router, and there is
 at least one other Debian Wheezy box.
 Does your ISP provide you with one, or more than one IP address? If
 one, the router probably translates this public IP address to your
 private LAN. Does the router function as a DHCP server, or do you
 have a dedicated box on your LAN? Can you check the logs of your LAN
 DHCP server for entries matching the non-functioning box?

There's no NAT in what I'm doing, no. The boxes in each case get a public
IP address from my ISP (or try to.) The different cases are:

CASE 1, works:
[cable modem]---[TP-LINK router] 

CASE 2, works:
[cable modem]---[wheezy box that works]

CASE 3, doesn't work:
[cable modem]---[wheezy box that doesn't work]

I attach a laptop to the TP-LINK router to see that it got an IP address, so
there's NAT there. But, NAT doens't come into play for the larger problem, if
that's what you're asking.


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Re: dhclient No DHCPOFFERS received

2013-08-07 Thread Klaus

On 07/08/13 20:19, Sean Alexandre wrote:

On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 07:16:45PM +0100, Klaus wrote:

On 07/08/13 18:24, Andy Hawkins wrote:

In article 20130807164822.GA7727@tuzo,
Sean Alexandres...@alexan.org wrote:

No, unfortunately. I know it's not a MAC address issue. Both my TP-LINK home
router and the Debian Wheezy machine that works get DHCP leases without any
problems, and have different MAC addresses.

I also asked my ISP about this, when I had them on the line to bring up my
new cable modem. They said any MAC address is fine. Just power the cable
modem down for 30 seconds first.


Ok, I did say I was kind of stating the obvious!

Next thing I'd be doing is using tshark or similar to sniff the traffic
being seen on the Debian box.

Andy



Just more of the obvious stuff:
You say it's a new cable modem, there is a home router, and there is
at least one other Debian Wheezy box.
Does your ISP provide you with one, or more than one IP address? If
one, the router probably translates this public IP address to your
private LAN. Does the router function as a DHCP server, or do you
have a dedicated box on your LAN? Can you check the logs of your LAN
DHCP server for entries matching the non-functioning box?


There's no NAT in what I'm doing, no. The boxes in each case get a public
IP address from my ISP (or try to.) The different cases are:

CASE 1, works:
[cable modem]---[TP-LINK router]

CASE 2, works:
[cable modem]---[wheezy box that works]

CASE 3, doesn't work:
[cable modem]---[wheezy box that doesn't work]

I attach a laptop to the TP-LINK router to see that it got an IP address, so
there's NAT there. But, NAT doens't come into play for the larger problem, if
that's what you're asking.


Have you checked for DHCP client entries in /var/log/daemon.log ? I'm 
running the standard dhclient, from the isc-dhcp-client package (though 
my box is running SID), and there are log messages like


/var/log/daemon.log:Aug  5 08:48:29 myhostname dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on 
eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
/var/log/daemon.log:Aug  5 08:48:29 myhostname dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on 
eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
/var/log/daemon.log:Aug  5 08:48:29 myhostname dhclient: DHCPOFFER from 
192.168.0.1
/var/log/daemon.log:Aug  5 08:48:29 myhostname dhclient: DHCPACK from 
192.168.0.1




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Re: dhclient No DHCPOFFERS received

2013-08-07 Thread Slavko
Dňa 07.08.2013 21:19 Sean Alexandre  wrote / napísal(a):
 On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 07:16:45PM +0100, Klaus wrote:
 On 07/08/13 18:24, Andy Hawkins wrote:
 In article 20130807164822.GA7727@tuzo,
 Sean Alexandres...@alexan.org wrote:
 No, unfortunately. I know it's not a MAC address issue. Both my TP-LINK 
 home
 router and the Debian Wheezy machine that works get DHCP leases without any
 problems, and have different MAC addresses.

 I also asked my ISP about this, when I had them on the line to bring up my
 new cable modem. They said any MAC address is fine. Just power the cable
 modem down for 30 seconds first.

 Ok, I did say I was kind of stating the obvious!

 Next thing I'd be doing is using tshark or similar to sniff the traffic
 being seen on the Debian box.

 Andy


 Just more of the obvious stuff:
 You say it's a new cable modem, there is a home router, and there is
 at least one other Debian Wheezy box.
 Does your ISP provide you with one, or more than one IP address? If
 one, the router probably translates this public IP address to your
 private LAN. Does the router function as a DHCP server, or do you
 have a dedicated box on your LAN? Can you check the logs of your LAN
 DHCP server for entries matching the non-functioning box?
 
 There's no NAT in what I'm doing, no. The boxes in each case get a public
 IP address from my ISP (or try to.) The different cases are:
 
 CASE 1, works:
 [cable modem]---[TP-LINK router] 
 
 CASE 2, works:
 [cable modem]---[wheezy box that works]
 
 CASE 3, doesn't work:
 [cable modem]---[wheezy box that doesn't work]
 
 I attach a laptop to the TP-LINK router to see that it got an IP address, so
 there's NAT there. But, NAT doens't come into play for the larger problem, if
 that's what you're asking.
 

is your network like this, please:

   -
   |ISP|
   -
 |
 |
   -
   |   modem   |
   -
 |
   --
   | |  |
-  -  -
|  Debian I |  | Debian II |  |  TP-Link  |
-  -  -


or like this?

   -
   |ISP|
   -
 |
 |
   -
   |   modem   |
   -
 |
 |
   -
   |  TP-Link  |
   -
 |
--
||
 - -
 |  Debian I | | Debian II |
 - -

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Re: dhclient No DHCPOFFERS received

2013-08-07 Thread Sean Alexandre
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 08:29:53PM +0100, Klaus wrote:
 On 07/08/13 20:19, Sean Alexandre wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 07:16:45PM +0100, Klaus wrote:
 On 07/08/13 18:24, Andy Hawkins wrote:
 In article 20130807164822.GA7727@tuzo,
 Sean Alexandres...@alexan.org wrote:
 No, unfortunately. I know it's not a MAC address issue. Both my TP-LINK 
 home
 router and the Debian Wheezy machine that works get DHCP leases without 
 any
 problems, and have different MAC addresses.
 
 I also asked my ISP about this, when I had them on the line to bring up my
 new cable modem. They said any MAC address is fine. Just power the cable
 modem down for 30 seconds first.
 
 Ok, I did say I was kind of stating the obvious!
 
 Next thing I'd be doing is using tshark or similar to sniff the traffic
 being seen on the Debian box.
 
 Andy
 
 
 Just more of the obvious stuff:
 You say it's a new cable modem, there is a home router, and there is
 at least one other Debian Wheezy box.
 Does your ISP provide you with one, or more than one IP address? If
 one, the router probably translates this public IP address to your
 private LAN. Does the router function as a DHCP server, or do you
 have a dedicated box on your LAN? Can you check the logs of your LAN
 DHCP server for entries matching the non-functioning box?
 
 There's no NAT in what I'm doing, no. The boxes in each case get a public
 IP address from my ISP (or try to.) The different cases are:
 
 CASE 1, works:
 [cable modem]---[TP-LINK router]
 
 CASE 2, works:
 [cable modem]---[wheezy box that works]
 
 CASE 3, doesn't work:
 [cable modem]---[wheezy box that doesn't work]
 
 I attach a laptop to the TP-LINK router to see that it got an IP address, so
 there's NAT there. But, NAT doens't come into play for the larger problem, if
 that's what you're asking.
 
 
 Have you checked for DHCP client entries in /var/log/daemon.log ?
 I'm running the standard dhclient, from the isc-dhcp-client package
 (though my box is running SID), and there are log messages like
 
 /var/log/daemon.log:Aug  5 08:48:29 myhostname dhclient:
 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
 /var/log/daemon.log:Aug  5 08:48:29 myhostname dhclient: DHCPREQUEST
 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
 /var/log/daemon.log:Aug  5 08:48:29 myhostname dhclient: DHCPOFFER
 from 192.168.0.1
 /var/log/daemon.log:Aug  5 08:48:29 myhostname dhclient: DHCPACK
 from 192.168.0.1
 

On the wheezy box that works I get:

Aug  6 17:46:13 tuzo dhclient: Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2
Aug  6 17:46:13 tuzo dhclient: Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
Aug  6 17:46:13 tuzo dhclient: All rights reserved.
Aug  6 17:46:13 tuzo dhclient: For info, please visit 
https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
Aug  6 17:46:13 tuzo dhclient: 
Aug  6 17:46:13 tuzo dhclient: Listening on LPF/eth0/10:0b:a9:8b:33:f8
Aug  6 17:46:13 tuzo dhclient: Sending on   LPF/eth0/10:0b:a9:8b:33:f8
Aug  6 17:46:13 tuzo dhclient: Sending on   Socket/fallback
Aug  6 17:46:13 tuzo dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
Aug  6 17:46:20 tuzo dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
Aug  6 17:46:20 tuzo dhclient: DHCPNAK from 10.132.192.1
Aug  6 17:46:20 tuzo dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 
interval 5
Aug  6 17:46:20 tuzo dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
Aug  6 17:46:20 tuzo dhclient: DHCPOFFER from 10.132.192.1
Aug  6 17:46:20 tuzo dhclient: DHCPACK from 10.132.192.1
Aug  6 17:46:21 tuzo dhclient: bound to 66.26.64.22 -- renewal in 1705 seconds.

On the wheezy box that doesn't work I get:

Aug  7 06:28:25 moose dhclient: Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2
Aug  7 06:28:25 moose dhclient: Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
Aug  7 06:28:25 moose dhclient: All rights reserved.
Aug  7 06:28:25 moose dhclient: For info, please visit 
https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
Aug  7 06:28:25 moose dhclient: 
Aug  7 06:28:25 moose kernel: [  208.409987] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth-wan: link 
is not ready
Aug  7 06:28:25 moose dhclient: Listening on LPF/eth-wan/00:25:90:39:de:08
Aug  7 06:28:25 moose dhclient: Sending on   LPF/eth-wan/00:25:90:39:de:08
Aug  7 06:28:25 moose dhclient: Sending on   Socket/fallback
Aug  7 06:28:25 moose dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth-wan to 255.255.255.255 port 
67 interval 3
Aug  7 06:28:28 moose dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth-wan to 255.255.255.255 port 
67 interval 6
Aug  7 06:28:28 moose kernel: [  211.369046] e1000e: eth-wan NIC Link is Up 
1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: None
Aug  7 06:28:28 moose kernel: [  211.370437] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth-wan: 
link becomes ready
Aug  7 06:28:34 moose dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth-wan to 255.255.255.255 port 
67 interval 12
Aug  7 06:28:46 moose dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth-wan to 255.255.255.255 port 
67 interval 13
Aug  7 06:28:59 moose dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth-wan to 255.255.255.255 port 
67 interval 19
Aug  7 06:29:18 moose dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on 

Re: dhclient No DHCPOFFERS received

2013-08-07 Thread Sean Alexandre
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 09:29:57PM +0200, Slavko wrote:
 is your network like this, please:
 
-
|ISP|
-
  |
  |
-
|   modem   |
-
  |
--
| |  |
 -  -  -
 |  Debian I |  | Debian II |  |  TP-Link  |
 -  -  -
 
 
 or like this?
 
-
|ISP|
-
  |
  |
-
|   modem   |
-
  |
  |
-
|  TP-Link  |
-
  |
 --
 ||
  - -
  |  Debian I | | Debian II |
  - -

My network is like your first diagram, but with only one machine connected to
the modem at a time.


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Re: dhclient No DHCPOFFERS received

2013-08-07 Thread Slavko
Dňa 07.08.2013 22:50 Sean Alexandre  wrote / napísal(a):

 Aug  7 06:28:25 moose dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth-wan to 255.255.255.255 
 port 67 interval 3
 Aug  7 06:28:28 moose dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth-wan to 255.255.255.255 
 port 67 interval 6
 Aug  7 06:28:28 moose kernel: [  211.369046] e1000e: eth-wan NIC Link is Up 
 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: None
 Aug  7 06:28:28 moose kernel: [  211.370437] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): 
 eth-wan: link becomes ready
 Aug  7 06:28:34 moose dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth-wan to 255.255.255.255 
 port 67 interval 12
 Aug  7 06:28:46 moose dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth-wan to 255.255.255.255 
 port 67 interval 13
 Aug  7 06:28:59 moose dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth-wan to 255.255.255.255 
 port 67 interval 19
 Aug  7 06:29:18 moose dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth-wan to 255.255.255.255 
 port 67 interval 8
 Aug  7 06:29:26 moose dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS received.
 Aug  7 06:29:26 moose dhclient: No working leases in persistent database - 
 sleeping.

Because you don't get any response from DHCP server, there are some more
questions...

Are you sure, that the network (NIC, cable, etc) is working? Tried you
set the static IP or use another DHCP network (for example the one from
TP-Link)?

Have you firewall enabled? Are you sure, that the firewall is not
blocking the response? Try to disable (fllush) the firewall and then run:

dhclient eth-wan

and check the syslog.

Did you some changes in the /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf? If yes, try revert
to default one (you have the backup :-P ).

 Something interesting about this is the DHCP offer comes from a private IP
 address from my ISP (10.132.192.1), even though the address they give me is
 public.

Don't worry about this. I have the same situation. My ISP's DHCP server
provides for me local (10.0.0.0/8) IPs for DNS servers too, for example,
but the interface gets the public IP...

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Re: dhclient No DHCPOFFERS received

2013-08-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Sean Alexandre wrote:
 OK, thanks, that's where I was headed, but was hoping it was
 something more obvious. I can get a tcpdump, but don't know DHCP
 very well. I'll take a look, though, and see what I can figure out.

The 'dhcpdump' package is useful for debugging dhcp issues.  Easier
than wireshark because it is specific to the dhcp protocol.

  $ apt-cache show dhcpdump
  Description-en: Parse DHCP packets from tcpdump
   This package provides a tool for visualization of DHCP packets as
   recorded and output by tcpdump to analyze DHCP server responses.

Use it like this:

  # dhcpdump -i eth0

It will dump the decoded frames to standard output.

Bob


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