Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-20, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI  wrote:
>>>
>>> Start gnome-control-center, type "lock", hit enter, et voila.
>> That won't work in a localized GNOME ;-)
>>
>> In Spanish the term is "bloquear" so searching for "lock" returns no 
>> results.
>
> I suppose in a localized GNOME "System configuration → Personal
> sub-section → Screen" wouldn't be correct either, because these terms
> would be translated.
>
Michael's suggestion is perfectly valid and the whole gnome localisation
business (which works fine for "lock", as Michael himself attested as he
uses a German locale) is a red herring. 


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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:24:05 -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

> On 11/20/2011 01:00 PM, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:50:10 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
>>
>>> On 20.11.2011 15:45, Camaleón wrote:
 Go to "System configuration → Personal sub-section → Screen" and turn
 it off from there.
>>> Just use the builtin search.
>>>
>>> Start gnome-control-center, type "lock", hit enter, et voila.
>> That won't work in a localized GNOME ;-)
>>
>> In Spanish the term is "bloquear" so searching for "lock" returns no
>> results.
> 
> I suppose in a localized GNOME "System configuration → Personal
> sub-section → Screen" wouldn't be correct either, because these terms
> would be translated.

Sure, but a GNOME user knows how to reach the place (which in GNOME3 is 
now centralized under System Settings), I only wanted to note that is 
less prone to errors than a string search (you know, translations are not 
always up to date in testing nor even in stable releases...). Indeed, I 
also expected the English term was also working for a non-English 
environment but it seems this was not the case.

What I can't guess is why all this noise, some people here think I'm 
always competing for... what, exactly? I really don't know :-/

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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-20, Roger Leigh  wrote:
>> The argument is and was that the locales idiocy is and was just that, an
>> idiocy, so there is no ad hominem.
>
> Take this juvenile bickering off-list please.

Go jump in a big lake, sonny-boy.


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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 07:11:27PM +, Curt wrote:
> On 2011-11-20, Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:
> >
> > Ad hominem argument. Please.
> >
> The argument is and was that the locales idiocy is and was just that, an
> idiocy, so there is no ad hominem.

Take this juvenile bickering off-list please.


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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-20, Go Linux  wrote:

> Forget to take your meds today, Curt?

I admire the originality with which you formulate your savage put-downs,
Go.

Your intellectual honesty is on a par with your collaborator, Hugo
W.(?), who confuses an insight with an argument, and an argument with a
desperate energy to never be proven wrong and always get the very, very last
word no matter what.


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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Go Linux
Forget to take your meds today, Curt?

--- On Sun, 11/20/11, Curt  wrote:

> From: Curt 
> Subject: Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Sunday, November 20, 2011, 12:11 PM
> On 2011-11-20, Camaleón 
> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, that's what I meant for trolling. Grow up.
> >
> 
> The truth is someone came up with a suggestion superior to
> your own, and
> because of your outsized vanity you couldn't handle it and
> had to invent
> this idiocy about locales that isn't fooling anybody but
> yourself.
> 
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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-20, Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:
>
> Ad hominem argument. Please.

And by the way, where were you when she called me a troll, as her
_only_ argument?


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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-20, Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:
>
> Ad hominem argument. Please.
>
The argument is and was that the locales idiocy is and was just that, an
idiocy, so there is no ad hominem.

She has no counter-argument.

The rest is arm-chair psychology, I'll admit, but my _argument_ does not
now nor has it ever resposed upon my evaluation of her psychological
state.


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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout solved

2011-11-20 Thread Paul Scott

On 11/20/2011 07:45 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 07:33:36 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:


Upgrade to Gnome 3 has enabled a screen lockout after inactivity.  I
used to be able to find such things.  How do I disable this.

Go to "System configuration → Personal sub-section → Screen" and turn it
off from there.


I don't have everything installed.  I don't have (or don't know where to 
find)


System configuration

On the desktop I am asking about I still have the Applications menu.

OTOH I did just find Screen under System Settings.  It wasn't there yesterday 
but I just updated some packages.

Thanks,

Paul




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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 11/20/2011 01:00 PM, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:50:10 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
>
>> On 20.11.2011 15:45, Camaleón wrote:
>>> Go to "System configuration → Personal sub-section → Screen" and turn
>>> it off from there.
>> Just use the builtin search.
>>
>> Start gnome-control-center, type "lock", hit enter, et voila.
> That won't work in a localized GNOME ;-)
>
> In Spanish the term is "bloquear" so searching for "lock" returns no 
> results.

I suppose in a localized GNOME "System configuration → Personal
sub-section → Screen" wouldn't be correct either, because these terms
would be translated.


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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Curt wrote:

On 2011-11-20, Camaleón  wrote:

Yeah, that's what I meant for trolling. Grow up.



The truth is someone came up with a suggestion superior to your own, and
because of your outsized vanity you couldn't handle it and had to invent
this idiocy about locales that isn't fooling anybody but yourself.




Ad hominem argument. Please.

Hugo


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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:11:32 +, Curt wrote:

> On 2011-11-20, Camaleón  wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, that's what I meant for trolling. Grow up.
>>
>>
> The truth is someone came up with a suggestion superior to your own, and
> because of your outsized vanity you couldn't handle it and had to invent
> this idiocy about locales that isn't fooling anybody but yourself.

Curt, insulting me will take you to nowhere. Again, put your trolling 
into another place, preferably /dev/null.

End of story.

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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-20, Camaleón  wrote:
>
> Yeah, that's what I meant for trolling. Grow up.
>

The truth is someone came up with a suggestion superior to your own, and
because of your outsized vanity you couldn't handle it and had to invent
this idiocy about locales that isn't fooling anybody but yourself.


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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:16:44 +, Curt wrote:

> On 2011-11-20, Camaleón  wrote:
>> Curt, please, go trolling somewhere else.
>>
>> I already have you in my "radar" and already know that you always tend
>> to overreact when replying to my postings. Re-sigh.
>>
>>
> Out of arguments, huh?
> 
> Gotcha.

Yeah, that's what I meant for trolling. Grow up.

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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-20, Camaleón  wrote:
> Curt, please, go trolling somewhere else. 
>
> I already have you in my "radar" and already know that you always tend to 
> overreact when replying to my postings. Re-sigh.
>

Out of arguments, huh?

Gotcha.


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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:46:20 +, Curt wrote:

> On 2011-11-20, Camaleón  wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:26:01 +, Curt wrote:
>>
>> Sigh. That's what I'm saying, that using the English term won't work in
>> some cases.
> 
> But what I'm saying is that you are saying nothing we don't already
> know.  

(...)

Curt, please, go trolling somewhere else. 

I already have you in my "radar" and already know that you always tend to 
overreact when replying to my postings. Re-sigh.

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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-20, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:26:01 +, Curt wrote:
>
> Sigh. That's what I'm saying, that using the English term won't work in 
> some cases.

But what I'm saying is that you are saying nothing we don't already
know.  When the man said search for "lock," all intelligent people
inferred that they should use the appropriate, equivalent search term
for their locale. Or are you suggesting he should have posted the
appropriate term for every language for which Debian has a locale, in
order to satisfy the needs of a tiny, perhaps even entirely fictitious
minority? 


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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:26:01 +, Curt wrote:

> On 2011-11-20, Camaleón  wrote:

(...)

>> problematic: the searched term has to be put in the user's language so
>> it finds a match because is a "text dependant" feature.
> 
> Obviously.

Sigh. That's what I'm saying, that using the English term won't work in 
some cases.

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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-20, Camaleón  wrote:
>>>
>>> It returns nothing in Spanish when you type "lock" and hit enter. Go
>>> figure.
>> 
>> I think "lock" isn't Spanish. 
>
> (...) 
>
> I think you didn't get it.
>

I thought you didn't.  

> It's "lock" (the English term) what returns zero results inside a Spanish 
> localized environment (and guess it happens the same for others). 

But why would any intelligent person use the English term in a Spanish
locale?  One should use the appropriate search term for his or her
locale.

> Of course that using the translated term works, but that's not the 

Of course.

> problematic: the searched term has to be put in the user's language so it 
> finds a match because is a "text dependant" feature.

Obviously.


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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:03:38 +, Curt wrote:

> On 2011-11-20, Camaleón  wrote:
>>
>>> And localized search will of course work. I use de_DE and searching
>>> for sperren (German for "lock") does turn up the correct results.
>>
>> It returns nothing in Spanish when you type "lock" and hit enter. Go
>> figure.
> 
> I think "lock" isn't Spanish. 

(...) 

I think you didn't get it.

It's "lock" (the English term) what returns zero results inside a Spanish 
localized environment (and guess it happens the same for others). 

Of course that using the translated term works, but that's not the 
problematic: the searched term has to be put in the user's language so it 
finds a match because is a "text dependant" feature.

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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-20, Camaleón  wrote:
>
>> And localized search will of course work. I use de_DE and searching for
>> sperren (German for "lock") does turn up the correct results.
>
> It returns nothing in Spanish when you type "lock" and hit enter. Go 
> figure.

I think "lock" isn't Spanish.  Maybe try "bloquear" (but that's a verb
infinitive, no?)

Maybe "cerradura?"  Let us know what works for your locale.


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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:18:47 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:

> On 20.11.2011 16:00, Camaleón wrote:
>>> Start gnome-control-center, type "lock", hit enter, et voila.
>> 
>> That won't work in a localized GNOME ;-)
>> 
>> In Spanish the term is "bloquear" so searching for "lock" returns no
>> results.
> 
> I obviously would assume that a Spanish speaking person would use the
> Spanish word for "lock" if he runs a DE with a Spanish locale.

Do you? Me not because some strings are localized but other not, so is 
hard to choose the right one every time.

> And localized search will of course work. I use de_DE and searching for
> sperren (German for "lock") does turn up the correct results.

It returns nothing in Spanish when you type "lock" and hit enter. Go 
figure.

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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Michael Biebl
On 20.11.2011 16:00, Camaleón wrote:
>> Start gnome-control-center, type "lock", hit enter, et voila.
> 
> That won't work in a localized GNOME ;-)
> 
> In Spanish the term is "bloquear" so searching for "lock" returns no 
> results.

I obviously would assume that a Spanish speaking person would use the
Spanish word for "lock" if he runs a DE with a Spanish locale.

And localized search will of course work. I use de_DE and searching for
sperren (German for "lock") does turn up the correct results.

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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:50:10 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:

> On 20.11.2011 15:45, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 07:33:36 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
>> 
>>> Upgrade to Gnome 3 has enabled a screen lockout after inactivity.  I
>>> used to be able to find such things.  How do I disable this.
>> 
>> Go to "System configuration → Personal sub-section → Screen" and turn
>> it off from there.
> 
> Just use the builtin search.
> 
> Start gnome-control-center, type "lock", hit enter, et voila.

That won't work in a localized GNOME ;-)

In Spanish the term is "bloquear" so searching for "lock" returns no 
results.

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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Michael Biebl
On 20.11.2011 15:45, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 07:33:36 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
> 
>> Upgrade to Gnome 3 has enabled a screen lockout after inactivity.  I
>> used to be able to find such things.  How do I disable this.
> 
> Go to "System configuration → Personal sub-section → Screen" and turn it 
> off from there.

Just use the builtin search.

Start gnome-control-center, type "lock", hit enter, et voila.

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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Michael Biebl
On 20.11.2011 15:45, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 07:33:36 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
> 
>> Upgrade to Gnome 3 has enabled a screen lockout after inactivity.  I
>> used to be able to find such things.  How do I disable this.
> 
> Go to "System configuration → Personal sub-section → Screen" and turn it 
> off from there.

Just use the builtin search.

Start gnome-control-center, type "lock", et voila.



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Re: disable Gnome 3 screen lockout

2011-11-20 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 07:33:36 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:

> Upgrade to Gnome 3 has enabled a screen lockout after inactivity.  I
> used to be able to find such things.  How do I disable this.

Go to "System configuration → Personal sub-section → Screen" and turn it 
off from there.

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