Re: disabling slowkeys in gdm3

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:18:17 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

> Camaleón  writes:

(...)

>> Mmm... are you on Squeezy or testing?
> 
> testing.
>
> gconf-editor is version 3.0.1-1
> gdm3 is version 3.4.1-2

Ah, then the above key does not exist in gconf/dconf ;-(
 
>>> My question, of course, is "what am I missing"?  What do I need to do
>>> to make gdm3 configuration visible in gconf-editor?
>>
>> You can also try using the command line, e.g.,:
>>
>> First, to retrieve the current value:
>>
>> gconftool-2 -g
>> /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/settings-manager-plugins/a11y-keyboard/active
> 
> Reported no such key was set

Sure, this should be of effect. Let me Google the way to do it for 
gnome3... okay, this will retrieve the current value:

gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.a11y.keyboard enable

If that's set to "true" you can toggle off with:

gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.a11y.keyboard enable false

And also by disabling "slow keys" from "Accesibility" applet.

GNOME upstream bug seems to be this:

Bug 668213 - a11y-keyboard manager writes to GSettings on login 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=668213

Greetings,

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Re: disabling slowkeys in gdm3

[Joe Pfeiffer]

Vincent Lefevre  writes:

> On 2012-08-12 14:02:01 +, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:17:43 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>> 
>> > I've also run into the problem with slowkeys automatically turning
>> > itself on when I hold the shift key too long, as described in
>> > 
>> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657969
>> > 
>> > It isn't clear to me why the display manager has anything to do with
>> > this, 
>> 
>> Well, it makes sense because the login manager is in charge of setting up 
>> some basic pre-environmental values, like keyboard layout or mouse 
>> options.
>
> I think that if AccessX features haven't been used at this level,
> the AccessX bit should be toggled back to off before starting the
> user's X session. Then it's up to the desktop environment (if any)
> to decide what to do.
>
> See also discussions upstream (unrelated to gdm3):
>
>   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52611
>
>> > but apparently the solution is to use gconf-editor to disable it in
>> > gdm3.
>> 
>> Yup, or so it says the bug report.
>
> Another solution:
>
> # apt-get install xkbset
> $ xkbset -a
>
> See .

It worked!  Thank you!

> This could be done in the user's ~/.xsession script or this could be
> added into /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ (not tried).
>
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Re: disabling slowkeys in gdm3

[Joe Pfeiffer]

Camaleón  writes:

> On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:17:43 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>
>> I've also run into the problem with slowkeys automatically turning
>> itself on when I hold the shift key too long, as described in
>> 
>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657969
>> 
>> It isn't clear to me why the display manager has anything to do with
>> this, 
>
> Well, it makes sense because the login manager is in charge of setting up 
> some basic pre-environmental values, like keyboard layout or mouse 
> options.
>
>> but apparently the solution is to use gconf-editor to disable it in
>> gdm3.
>
> Yup, or so it says the bug report.
>
>> If I start up gconf-editor, I don't see any configuration options for
>> gdm3 nor simple-greeting.  So far I've tried
>> 
>> gconf-editor
>> sudo gconf-editor
>> sudo -u Debian-gdm gconf-editor
>
> Mmm... are you on Squeezy or testing?

testing.

gconf-editor is version 3.0.1-1
gdm3 is version 3.4.1-2

> Anyway, you should run "gconfig-editor" from your current user and in the 
> event you can't locate the key, you can search for "simple-greeter" (no 
> "simple-greeting").

Didn't turn up in the search.

>> (I should note that gdm actually runs as root on my system -- so I'm not
>> sure what the Debian-gdm user is actually for?)
>
> AFAIK, there's no need to play with that.
>
>> My question, of course, is "what am I missing"?  What do I need to do to
>> make gdm3 configuration visible in gconf-editor?
>
> You can also try using the command line, e.g.,:
>
> First, to retrieve the current value:
>
> gconftool-2 -g 
> /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/settings-manager-plugins/a11y-keyboard/active

Reported no such key was set
> And then you can disable with:
>
> gconftool-2 -s -t bool 
> /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/settings-manager-plugins/a11y-keyboard/active false

snowball:504$ gconftool-2 -u 
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/settings-manager-plugins/a11y-keyboard/active
snowball:505$ gconftool-2 -g 
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/settings-manager-plugins/a11y-keyboard/active
No value set for 
`/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/settings-manager-plugins/a11y-keyboard/active'
snowball:506$ gconftool-2 -s -t bool 
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/settings-manager-plugins/a11y-keyboard/active false
snowball:507$ gconftool-2 -g 
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/settings-manager-plugins/a11y-keyboard/active
false

But it still sets it when I hold the shift key for a while.

Also tried with sudo just for good measure; still no luck.

> THT.
>
> Greetings,
>
> -- 
> Camaleón

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Re: disabling slowkeys in gdm3

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2012-08-12 14:02:01 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:17:43 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> 
> > I've also run into the problem with slowkeys automatically turning
> > itself on when I hold the shift key too long, as described in
> > 
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657969
> > 
> > It isn't clear to me why the display manager has anything to do with
> > this, 
> 
> Well, it makes sense because the login manager is in charge of setting up 
> some basic pre-environmental values, like keyboard layout or mouse 
> options.

I think that if AccessX features haven't been used at this level,
the AccessX bit should be toggled back to off before starting the
user's X session. Then it's up to the desktop environment (if any)
to decide what to do.

See also discussions upstream (unrelated to gdm3):

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52611

> > but apparently the solution is to use gconf-editor to disable it in
> > gdm3.
> 
> Yup, or so it says the bug report.

Another solution:

# apt-get install xkbset
$ xkbset -a

See .

This could be done in the user's ~/.xsession script or this could be
added into /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ (not tried).

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Re: disabling slowkeys in gdm3

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:17:43 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

> I've also run into the problem with slowkeys automatically turning
> itself on when I hold the shift key too long, as described in
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657969
> 
> It isn't clear to me why the display manager has anything to do with
> this, 

Well, it makes sense because the login manager is in charge of setting up 
some basic pre-environmental values, like keyboard layout or mouse 
options.

> but apparently the solution is to use gconf-editor to disable it in
> gdm3.

Yup, or so it says the bug report.

> If I start up gconf-editor, I don't see any configuration options for
> gdm3 nor simple-greeting.  So far I've tried
> 
> gconf-editor
> sudo gconf-editor
> sudo -u Debian-gdm gconf-editor

Mmm... are you on Squeezy or testing?

Anyway, you should run "gconfig-editor" from your current user and in the 
event you can't locate the key, you can search for "simple-greeter" (no 
"simple-greeting").

> (I should note that gdm actually runs as root on my system -- so I'm not
> sure what the Debian-gdm user is actually for?)

AFAIK, there's no need to play with that.

> My question, of course, is "what am I missing"?  What do I need to do to
> make gdm3 configuration visible in gconf-editor?

You can also try using the command line, e.g.,:

First, to retrieve the current value:

gconftool-2 -g 
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/settings-manager-plugins/a11y-keyboard/active

And then you can disable with:

gconftool-2 -s -t bool 
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/settings-manager-plugins/a11y-keyboard/active false

THT.

Greetings,

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Re: disabling slowkeys in gdm3

[Joe Pfeiffer]

Joe Pfeiffer  writes:

> I've also run into the problem with slowkeys automatically turning
> itself on when I hold the shift key too long, as described in
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657969
>
> It isn't clear to me why the display manager has anything to do with
> this, but apparently the solution is to use gconf-editor to disable it
> in gdm3.
>
> If I start up gconf-editor, I don't see any configuration options for
> gdm3 nor simple-greeting.  So far I've tried
>
> gconf-editor
> sudo gconf-editor
> sudo -u Debian-gdm gconf-editor
>
> (I should note that gdm actually runs as root on my system -- so I'm not
> sure what the Debian-gdm user is actually for?)
>
> My question, of course, is "what am I missing"?  What do I need to do to
> make gdm3 configuration visible in gconf-editor?

A couple more things I've tried:  purging and reinstalling gdm3, and
turning it off and starting X as root from the command line.  Still no
luck.


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