Re: documentation rant

2001-04-26 Thread Matthew Dalton
Michael P. Soulier wrote:
 /rant

Are you talking about one or two HOWTOs in particular? Which ones? Could
it be that these HOWTOs are distribution-specific?



Re: documentation rant

2001-04-26 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya

yes and no on the out of date howto...

if there's particular problem you are trying to solve...

i find it 10x easier to use google for those keywords
and go thru the mailing lists... if there is one for
those particular issues

c ya
alvin
( and yes...the autofs-HOWTO is out of date tooo...but...

my latest toy
http://LSEC.linux-consulting.com ... ids, vulnerabilities, scanning ...
- use the grep search mechanism...

On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Matthew Dalton wrote:

 Michael P. Soulier wrote:
  /rant
 
 Are you talking about one or two HOWTOs in particular? Which ones? Could
 it be that these HOWTOs are distribution-specific?
 



Re: documentation rant

2001-04-26 Thread aphro
 rant
 I am so sick of spending hours crawling over HOWTOs from LinuxDoc

i agree that many times the howtos and stuff are outdated.
very rarely have i referred to them. most often i use
www.alltheweb.com to search and read/join mailing lists ..

ive very very rarely read howtos, been using linux
since 1996..

nate



Re: documentation rant

2001-04-26 Thread John R Lenton
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 12:10:37AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
 I am so sick of spending hours crawling over HOWTOs from LinuxDoc just to
 find out that the documentation is wrong! Worse, tons of people know it's
 wrong, and no one, not the document maintainer, or anyone who's already gone
 through the process of finding out it's wrong, has bothered to update the
 incorrect document!

I'm therefore assuming you _have_ bothered?

-- 
John Lenton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Random fortune:
What did you bring that book I didn't want to be read to out of about
Down Under up for?


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Re: documentation rant

2001-04-26 Thread David Purton
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Michael P. Soulier wrote:

 rant
 I am so sick of spending hours crawling over HOWTOs from LinuxDoc just to
 find out that the documentation is wrong! Worse, tons of people know it's
 wrong, and no one, not the document maintainer, or anyone who's already gone
 through the process of finding out it's wrong, has bothered to update the
 incorrect document! This is _the_ #1 discouraging element in Linux today! I'm
 sorry, but I can't know everything, and I need good HOWTOs to get through some
 tasks. If there are coders reading this who haven't bothered to update docs
 lately, please take the time! I hate it too, but it helps so many people. 
 /rant
 

Clearly you havn't spent nearly enough time attempting to find any sort
of useful documentation at all under windows...

Personally - the linux HOWTOs are s far ahead of anything under
windows, that I can put up with these probs and just ask the list when
they fail.



Today people in droves hurry up past Heumoz to Villars 
on the road to the ski hills, so they can rush down them
as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order
to rush down again.  In a way this is funny,...

Francis A Schaeffer

David Purton

http://www.chariot.net.au/~dcpurton/
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Re: documentation rant

2001-04-26 Thread will trillich
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 10:52:32PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  rant
  I am so sick of spending hours crawling over HOWTOs from LinuxDoc
 
 i agree that many times the howtos and stuff are outdated.
 very rarely have i referred to them. most often i use
 www.alltheweb.com to search and read/join mailing lists ..

wet, sloppy kisses for alltheweb.com. i hadn't used that one
before, though the name was familiar.

fast. pertinent. can't beat that!

-- 
DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #22 from Will Trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
SECURITY-CONSCIOUS? Good! Here's how you can use apt-get to keep
your system up-to-date with the latest security patches: in
/etc/apt/sources.list include these lines--
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main 
contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib 
non-free
deb http://security.debian.org potato/updates main contrib non-free
Thereafter, a quick apt-get update  apt-get upgrade is all
you need to keep the gremlins at bay.

Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...



Re: documentation rant

2001-04-26 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 05:22:50AM -0300, John R Lenton wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 12:10:37AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
  I am so sick of spending hours crawling over HOWTOs from LinuxDoc just 
  to
  find out that the documentation is wrong! Worse, tons of people know it's
  wrong, and no one, not the document maintainer, or anyone who's already gone
  through the process of finding out it's wrong, has bothered to update the
  incorrect document!
 
 I'm therefore assuming you _have_ bothered?

Yup. I emailed the maintainer before sending this. 

Mike

-- 
Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a
good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be
dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925


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Re: documentation rant

2001-04-26 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 10:52:32PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 i agree that many times the howtos and stuff are outdated.
 very rarely have i referred to them. most often i use
 www.alltheweb.com to search and read/join mailing lists ..

I prefer google myself, but point taken. It's still difficult to find what
you're after though...

-- 
Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a
good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be
dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925


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