Re: drive labels --- update to my previous post
On 20120706_225838, cletusjenkins wrote: > > > > I add one line to /etc/fstab for each labeled usb external drive like > > the following: > > > > LABEL=gflx1 /media/gflx1ext3rw,user,noauto 0 0 > > > > And I create the named mount point in /media with: > > > > mkdir /media/gflx1 > > > > I have my own system of choosing label values > > , but you can create your own > > system. (gflx is a contraction of Seagate GoFlex) Don't try to use > > labels that are informative of the contents of the drive. You can > > easily maintian a text database of . If you choose > > to have the label never change, then the extra work of adding a line > > to /etc/fstab is done only once when a new device is originally > > acquired and adds very little to the drill of writing and ext3 file > > system onto the partition Avoid giving two devices the same LABEL. The > > text database is a good aid in this. > > > > Its also a good idea to write the LABEL on a stickum label and place > > the stickum label on the device. > > > > HTH > > -- > > Paul E Condon > > pecon...@mesanetworks.net > > Thanks for your reply. I never thought of trying to specify these drives in > the fstab file. I would have thought that doing so would hose-up the > auto-mounter. But I'll give it a try. > > These are little 1TB drives that get their power via the USB cable, so the > first thing I do when I get one is slap an old VHS label (the one for the top > of the tape not the long one for the edge) on the back of the drive to > catalog what it is for. I haven't bought a VHS tape in at least 9 years, but > like a mental patient I've kept every single extra label I ever bought for > every single type of media I've used. I even have extra labels for the 8" > floppies I used with a mini-computer my school had. > Since writing about my way of dealing with pluggable drives things have changed in a puzzling way: I was forced to reinstall Squeeze because of a worsening instability and kernel oops events on the computer that I use for backups. With the new install things behave differently, very differently. Now there are no lines in /etc/fstab mentioning devices /dev/usb1 , etc. and the computer recognizes and mounts usb drives in /media without an special lines supplied by me. It creates the mount point dynamically, and deletes the mount point when I do umount /media/gflx1. In a way, it behaves as if I had written a udev script, but I don't remember doing that, so I hypothesize that the packager of some debian package added such a script to his/her package (which package that is, I do not know). Now the behavior seems to be that any device that has a partition label will be mounted under /media using the partition label string as a mount point name. I don't have any unlabeled devices so I can't easily discover the behavior for an unlabeled device. Some kind and talented person seems to have fixed the problem. I'm inclined to believe that one can have the new, better behavior without doing a full re-install. Perhaps this post will prompt some to contribute the name of the package whose config files need up-grading. Then you can get this behavior without going thru the pain that I went thru. Also, the behavior that I described in my earlier post really did exist once-upon-a-time, but not any more, so readers of the archives should not waste their time trying to repeat what I reported. It isn't true anymore. I don't know what package change made it go away, and don't have the forensic skills to have a hope of finding out. The new behavior is better. I really don't want to go back. About old stickum labels: They lose their stickiness if one stores them in a place without proper climate control. Too hot, too cold, or too damp, and they become useless within just a few years ;-/ -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120709155101.ga3...@big.lan.gnu
Re: drive labels
El 2012-07-07 a las 19:34 -0700, cletusjenkins escribió: (resending to the list) > > In any case, it should be mounted under "/media" using the label, so if > > it fails there has to be a reason for it (e.g., naming collisions?). > > > > Attach the USB disk an run "dmesg | tail -20" and "dmesg | grep -i usb", > > then put here both outputs. > > Thanks for assuming I still had a genuine issue(/wasn't an idiot) and > continuing to offer help to me! You're welcome but I wonder what makes you think people can think that... Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120708134912.ga6...@stt008.linux.site
Re: drive labels
fstab works. However, if it gets unworldly with device records, you can also figure out a udev script that makes the appropriate mount point and mounts when a device is inserted and removes it when the device is removed. On Jul 6, 2012 8:25 PM, "Paul E Condon" wrote: > On 20120706_105247, cletusjenkins wrote: > > I have several USB external drives. I have them formatted as ext3 and > have assigned them labels (via tune2fs -L). All of my labels are made up of > letters no numbers, spaces or other special characters. When I connect a > drive, it's label is displayed correctly in gnome (on the desktop and when > browsing in nautilus), but the devices is mounted as /media/usb0. If I > connect another, it will show up in the GUI correctly and it actually gets > mounted using the label name (/media/filebackup). Is there a way to get my > system to mount the drive with the label instead of usb0? > > I add one line to /etc/fstab for each labeled usb external drive like > the following: > > LABEL=gflx1 /media/gflx1ext3rw,user,noauto 0 0 > > And I create the named mount point in /media with: > > mkdir /media/gflx1 > > I have my own system of choosing label values > , but you can create your own > system. (gflx is a contraction of Seagate GoFlex) Don't try to use > labels that are informative of the contents of the drive. You can > easily maintian a text database of . If you choose > to have the label never change, then the extra work of adding a line > to /etc/fstab is done only once when a new device is originally > acquired and adds very little to the drill of writing and ext3 file > system onto the partition Avoid giving two devices the same LABEL. The > text database is a good aid in this. > > Its also a good idea to write the LABEL on a stickum label and place > the stickum label on the device. > > HTH > -- > Paul E Condon > pecon...@mesanetworks.net > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120707002504.ga2...@big.lan.gnu > >
Re: drive labels
>These symptoms match exactly to Tixy's suggestion, could you please at >least show us your /etc/fstab? > >Kind regards, >Andrei Ah, you are right, I completely misunderstood what Tixy was saying! I went to try what Paul Condon suggested I saw the line specifying /media/usb0 as the mount point. I've looked at the fstab several times but never noticed it. DOH! Thanks everyone. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/862742497.13100.1341715175668.JavaMail.sas@172.29.252.227
Re: drive labels
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:52:47 -0700, cletusjenkins wrote: > I have several USB external drives. I have them formatted as ext3 and > have assigned them labels (via tune2fs -L). All of my labels are made up > of letters no numbers, spaces or other special characters. Output sample, please :-) Also, what Debian version are you using? > When I connect a drive, it's label is displayed correctly in gnome (on > the desktop and when browsing in nautilus), but the devices is mounted > as /media/usb0. If I connect another, it will show up in the GUI > correctly and it actually gets mounted using the label name (/media >/filebackup). Is there a way to get my system to mount the drive with > the label instead of usb0? In any case, it should be mounted under "/media" using the label, so if it fails there has to be a reason for it (e.g., naming collisions?). Attach the USB disk an run "dmesg | tail -20" and "dmesg | grep -i usb", then put here both outputs. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jt938p$2af$4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: drive labels
On Vi, 06 iul 12, 22:40:49, cletusjenkins wrote: > > > > I often see this when I install Debian on a PC using a USB stick. The > > installer seems to put an entry in /etc/fstab to mount /dev/sdb > > at /media/usb0. I just delete this line. > > > > -- > > Tixy > > Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure if that is the problem I am > having, I installed from a CD to an SATA harddrive. The USB drives I > have are just for files I can't fit on the internal HD that I boot > from. What my issue boils down to is whenever I plug in one of these > drives, the automounter ignores the label on the first drive I attach, > any subsequent drives work as I expect them to (using the label as a > mount point). It doesn't matter which drive I attach, it always just > uses /media/usb0 for the first. If I dismount it and then attach > another, the 2nd drive gets the /media/usb0 mount point. If I then > reattach the first drive, it gets mounted using the label. The > automounter just acts "weird" with the first device I attach. These symptoms match exactly to Tixy's suggestion, could you please at least show us your /etc/fstab? Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: drive labels
> > I add one line to /etc/fstab for each labeled usb external drive like > the following: > > LABEL=gflx1 /media/gflx1ext3rw,user,noauto 0 0 > > And I create the named mount point in /media with: > > mkdir /media/gflx1 > > I have my own system of choosing label values > , but you can create your own > system. (gflx is a contraction of Seagate GoFlex) Don't try to use > labels that are informative of the contents of the drive. You can > easily maintian a text database of . If you choose > to have the label never change, then the extra work of adding a line > to /etc/fstab is done only once when a new device is originally > acquired and adds very little to the drill of writing and ext3 file > system onto the partition Avoid giving two devices the same LABEL. The > text database is a good aid in this. > > Its also a good idea to write the LABEL on a stickum label and place > the stickum label on the device. > > HTH > -- > Paul E Condon > pecon...@mesanetworks.net Thanks for your reply. I never thought of trying to specify these drives in the fstab file. I would have thought that doing so would hose-up the auto-mounter. But I'll give it a try. These are little 1TB drives that get their power via the USB cable, so the first thing I do when I get one is slap an old VHS label (the one for the top of the tape not the long one for the edge) on the back of the drive to catalog what it is for. I haven't bought a VHS tape in at least 9 years, but like a mental patient I've kept every single extra label I ever bought for every single type of media I've used. I even have extra labels for the 8" floppies I used with a mini-computer my school had. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1027613247.39640.1341641018914.JavaMail.sas1@172.29.244.248
Re: drive labels
> > I often see this when I install Debian on a PC using a USB stick. The > installer seems to put an entry in /etc/fstab to mount /dev/sdb > at /media/usb0. I just delete this line. > > -- > Tixy Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure if that is the problem I am having, I installed from a CD to an SATA harddrive. The USB drives I have are just for files I can't fit on the internal HD that I boot from. What my issue boils down to is whenever I plug in one of these drives, the automounter ignores the label on the first drive I attach, any subsequent drives work as I expect them to (using the label as a mount point). It doesn't matter which drive I attach, it always just uses /media/usb0 for the first. If I dismount it and then attach another, the 2nd drive gets the /media/usb0 mount point. If I then reattach the first drive, it gets mounted using the label. The automounter just acts "weird" with the first device I attach. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2253221.28033.1341639949497.JavaMail.sas1@172.29.254.227
Re: drive labels
On 20120706_105247, cletusjenkins wrote: > I have several USB external drives. I have them formatted as ext3 and have > assigned them labels (via tune2fs -L). All of my labels are made up of > letters no numbers, spaces or other special characters. When I connect a > drive, it's label is displayed correctly in gnome (on the desktop and when > browsing in nautilus), but the devices is mounted as /media/usb0. If I > connect another, it will show up in the GUI correctly and it actually gets > mounted using the label name (/media/filebackup). Is there a way to get my > system to mount the drive with the label instead of usb0? I add one line to /etc/fstab for each labeled usb external drive like the following: LABEL=gflx1 /media/gflx1ext3rw,user,noauto 0 0 And I create the named mount point in /media with: mkdir /media/gflx1 I have my own system of choosing label values , but you can create your own system. (gflx is a contraction of Seagate GoFlex) Don't try to use labels that are informative of the contents of the drive. You can easily maintian a text database of . If you choose to have the label never change, then the extra work of adding a line to /etc/fstab is done only once when a new device is originally acquired and adds very little to the drill of writing and ext3 file system onto the partition Avoid giving two devices the same LABEL. The text database is a good aid in this. Its also a good idea to write the LABEL on a stickum label and place the stickum label on the device. HTH -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120707002504.ga2...@big.lan.gnu
Re: drive labels
On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 10:52 -0700, cletusjenkins wrote: > I have several USB external drives. I have them formatted as ext3 and have > assigned them labels (via tune2fs -L). All of my labels are made up of > letters no numbers, spaces or other special characters. When I connect a > drive, it's label is displayed correctly in gnome (on the desktop and when > browsing in nautilus), but the devices is mounted as /media/usb0. If I > connect another, it will show up in the GUI correctly and it actually gets > mounted using the label name (/media/filebackup). Is there a way to get my > system to mount the drive with the label instead of usb0? I often see this when I install Debian on a PC using a USB stick. The installer seems to put an entry in /etc/fstab to mount /dev/sdb at /media/usb0. I just delete this line. -- Tixy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1341618219.2952.6.ca...@computer2.home
