Re: editing pdf files
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:18:11 +0100 Claudius Hubig nfs_2...@chubig.net wrote: Hello richard, richard richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: You end up filling in a form sending it off , only to get an answer the form was blank. Always worth checking a file exported as a pdf, is what you think you want. Xpdf tells the truth, but its only a reader. You can try printing the filled-in form as PDF from within Evince and send the printout. Best regards, Claudius The only problem with that is hen it reaches its destination it has to be scanned and stored, and it means using snail mail. Much easier for both ends to be able to attach to an e-mail. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120115103812.65fa4...@lappy.g8jvm.com
Re: editing pdf files
on 14 Jan 2012 15:39:44 -0500 John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com wrote: On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 20:10 +, richard wrote: On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:48:43 + (UTC) Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2012-01-14, Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl wrote: Acroread should be able to do it, it's in the non-free repository. It is? Acroread both linux and win thing failed to save these forms, with an error Richard If form filling is what you are doing, that is very strange. The form fill plugin has worked well for our clients as far as I know. Is there any chance there is something wrong with the form? - John There could be as the windows product could not do it :) However after Finding Xournal and using that to create a template. That had to be done as the sections of the form created by the originator were shown blank when exported as a pdf. So each pre entered section of the form had to be overwritten, which looked a mess, until exported as a pdf What is even more maddening is I pulled down adobe reader 9.4.7 off the adobe site, and that does fill in all the blanks as required, and it produces a title bar to say the shaded areas can be edited/filled out. If it was the form, what was used to create it ?, and is it a sign that Adobe ,maybe, have introduced something which is not backwardly compatible with earlier versions of reader, (acroread ). What I now do, instead of trusting a pdf form has been completed correctly, is post it to my self and read it with xpdf, And then if that looks OK send it to where ever it was going in the first place. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120115111024.7d4b3...@lappy.g8jvm.com
Re: editing pdf files
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:18:11 +0100 Claudius Hubig nfs_2...@chubig.net wrote: Hello richard, richard richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: You end up filling in a form sending it off , only to get an answer the form was blank. Always worth checking a file exported as a pdf, is what you think you want. Xpdf tells the truth, but its only a reader. You can try printing the filled-in form as PDF from within Evince and send the printout. Best regards, Claudius The only problem with that is hen it reaches its destination it has to be scanned and stored, and it means using snail mail. Much easier for both ends to be able to attach to an e-mail. You can scan it back in at your end and attach it. Regards, Weaver. -- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Lucius Annæus Seneca. Terrorism, the new religion. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/9383a1b62655e375b6eca19524ee49b6.squir...@fulvetta.riseup.net
Re: editing pdf files
Weaver wrote at 2012-01-15 05:44 -0600: You can scan it back in at your end and attach it. Or fill it out, print it to cups-pdf, then attach the resulting PDF. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: editing pdf files
richard richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:18:11 +0100 Claudius Hubig nfs_2...@chubig.net wrote: Hello richard, richard richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: You end up filling in a form sending it off , only to get an answer the form was blank. Always worth checking a file exported as a pdf, is what you think you want. Xpdf tells the truth, but its only a reader. You can try printing the filled-in form as PDF from within Evince and send the printout. The only problem with that is hen it reaches its destination it has to be scanned and stored, and it means using snail mail. Much easier for both ends to be able to attach to an e-mail. I meant to say that you can print it into a PDF file (using cups-pdf) and then send the printout, i. e. the resulting PDF file. HTH, Claudius -- Swap read error. You lose your mind. Please use GPG: ECB0C2C7 4A4C4046 446ADF86 C08112E5 D72CDBA4 http://chubig.net/ http://nightfall.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120115184629.4f8af...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: editing pdf files
Curt: Siard: Curt: Siard: Acroread should be able to do it, it's in the non-free repository. It is? In Wheezy: $ apt-cache policy acroread acroread: Installed: 9.4.6-0.1 ... http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ wheezy/non-free i386 Packages ... When I refer to non-free, I mean the official __debian__ non-free repository, which is what I thought you meant, and not a third-party repository, which is what you really meant. Yes, I was not very accurate I'm afraid. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120115190628.8ff3918e.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
Re: editing pdf files
Jude DaShiell wrote: can acroread and acroread-plugins work in a command line environment or is this strictly gui? Not sure what you want. You can do a 'acroread filename.pdf', but of course you will need X for a PDF viewer. There are a few things you can do on the command line using acroread, like converting a PDF to Postscript. It's mentioned in the manpage. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120115193119.e29e2b62.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
Re: editing pdf files
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:18:11 +0100 Claudius Hubig nfs_2...@chubig.net wrote: Hello richard, richard richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: You end up filling in a form sending it off , only to get an answer the form was blank. Always worth checking a file exported as a pdf, is what you think you want. Xpdf tells the truth, but its only a reader. You can try printing the filled-in form as PDF from within Evince and send the printout. Best regards, Claudius The only problem with that is hen it reaches its destination it has to be scanned and stored, and it means using snail mail. Much easier for both ends to be able to attach to an e-mail. You can scan it back in at your end and attach it. Regards, This is another solution that loses all the document structure. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1behv0r8dj@pfeifferfamily.net
Re: editing pdf files
John A. Sullivan III wrote: This is a real hole in the Linux desktop environment. I disagree. PDFs are not _meant_ to be edited. Even Adobe Acrobat has very limited options to edit a PDF. There are third party plugins for Acrobat that can do some more editing, but it's still rather limited. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120114185054.e504dc5d.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
Re: editing pdf files
Siard wrote: John A. Sullivan III wrote: This is a real hole in the Linux desktop environment. I disagree. PDFs are not _meant_ to be edited. Even Adobe Acrobat has very limited options to edit a PDF. There are third party plugins for Acrobat that can do some more editing, but it's still rather limited. and http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/index.html ? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jesftb$l1l$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: editing pdf files
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 18:50 +0100, Siard wrote: John A. Sullivan III wrote: This is a real hole in the Linux desktop environment. I disagree. PDFs are not _meant_ to be edited. Even Adobe Acrobat has very limited options to edit a PDF. There are third party plugins for Acrobat that can do some more editing, but it's still rather limited. That may not have been the original intent but don't tell that to real world users. The ability to edit PDFs is becoming a core desktop function in many industries. It's not the same as editing with a word processor but heavy manipulation of the documents is common practice and there is nothing in the Linux world that does it as well as Acrobat does - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1326564578.31393.377.ca...@denise.theartistscloset.com
Re: editing pdf files
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 12:01 -0600, hvw59601 wrote: Siard wrote: John A. Sullivan III wrote: This is a real hole in the Linux desktop environment. I disagree. PDFs are not _meant_ to be edited. Even Adobe Acrobat has very limited options to edit a PDF. There are third party plugins for Acrobat that can do some more editing, but it's still rather limited. and http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/index.html ? Hugo To be fair to Siard, that's really a different issue. Form filling is one thing, major manipulation of the original document is another. Form filling can be done quite easily with the Acrobat Reader for Linux although it has its own host of bugs that have been ignored for years by Adobe - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1326564719.31393.379.ca...@denise.theartistscloset.com
Re: editing pdf files
On 01/13/2012 01:50 PM, richard wrote: Greetings, Is there any free app which can edit pdf files. Evince looks like it does it, you can edit, send it as an attachment and read it with another copy of evince and you can see the alterations. Open it on a poxy winblos machine with acrobat or acroread, and the edited sections are as the original. xpdf also shows the original before editing.. help TIA Richard I've had good luck with Okular. At least, I haven't had any of the issues you describe above when taking the document to a Windows machine. Andrew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f11c6ab.6000...@gmail.com
Re: editing pdf files
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 21:50:21 +, richard wrote: Is there any free app which can edit pdf files. (...) PDFedit, but don't expect the same results/options/level of management that you would have with Acrobat Professional. When it comes to PDF edition software Adobe is nowadays the king of the hill. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jesh9i$kef$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: editing pdf files
Hugo writes: and http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/index.html ? Filling in blanks in forms created for the purpose is not editing to me (though it is still misuse of the PDF format). -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ty3yw32t@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: editing pdf files
hvw59601 wrote: Siard wrote: John A. Sullivan III wrote: This is a real hole in the Linux desktop environment. I disagree. PDFs are not _meant_ to be edited. Even Adobe Acrobat has very limited options to edit a PDF. There are third party plugins for Acrobat that can do some more editing, but it's still rather limited. and www.irs.gov/formspubs/index.html ? Those are PDFs with forms. On second thought, that's probably what OP meant. But it wasn't understood as such by the other posters either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120114193043.4dc33612.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
Re: editing pdf files
Siard wrote: hvw59601 wrote: Siard wrote: John A. Sullivan III wrote: This is a real hole in the Linux desktop environment. I disagree. PDFs are not _meant_ to be edited. Even Adobe Acrobat has very limited options to edit a PDF. There are third party plugins for Acrobat that can do some more editing, but it's still rather limited. and www.irs.gov/formspubs/index.html ? Those are PDFs with forms. On second thought, that's probably what OP meant. But it wasn't understood as such by the other posters either. And I also misinterpreted OP's question. Sorry. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jesj8l$9ri$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: editing pdf files
hvw59601: Siard wrote: hvw59601 wrote: and www.irs.gov/formspubs/index.html ? Those are PDFs with forms. On second thought, that's probably what OP meant. But it wasn't understood as such by the other posters either. And I also misinterpreted OP's question. Sorry. ?? You're the only one that interpreted OP's question well. Evince cannot edit a PDF the usual way, but it _can_ fill out PDF forms, or at least it looks like it can. So filling out PDF forms is what OP was referring to when talking about 'editing' PDFs. Acroread should be able to do it, it's in the non-free repository. I have version 9.4.6, but odd enough it does not work. ?? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120114204414.22696ac3.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
Re: editing pdf files
On 2012-01-14, Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl wrote: Acroread should be able to do it, it's in the non-free repository. It is? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjh3n0e.3ul.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: editing pdf files
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 20:44 +0100, Siard wrote: hvw59601: Siard wrote: hvw59601 wrote: and www.irs.gov/formspubs/index.html ? Those are PDFs with forms. On second thought, that's probably what OP meant. But it wasn't understood as such by the other posters either. And I also misinterpreted OP's question. Sorry. ?? You're the only one that interpreted OP's question well. Evince cannot edit a PDF the usual way, but it _can_ fill out PDF forms, or at least it looks like it can. So filling out PDF forms is what OP was referring to when talking about 'editing' PDFs. Acroread should be able to do it, it's in the non-free repository. I have version 9.4.6, but odd enough it does not work. ?? Form filling is not in the base package. I believe you need to install the acroread-plugins for that to work - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1326571041.31393.380.ca...@denise.theartistscloset.com
Re: editing pdf files
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:44:14 +0100 Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl wrote: hvw59601: Siard wrote: hvw59601 wrote: and www.irs.gov/formspubs/index.html ? Those are PDFs with forms. On second thought, that's probably what OP meant. But it wasn't understood as such by the other posters either. And I also misinterpreted OP's question. Sorry. ?? You're the only one that interpreted OP's question well. Evince cannot edit a PDF the usual way, but it _can_ fill out PDF forms, or at least it looks like it can. So filling out PDF forms is what OP was referring to when talking about 'editing' PDFs. Acroread should be able to do it, it's in the non-free repository. I have version 9.4.6, but odd enough it does not work. ?? Hi Evince only looks like it can be used for forms. You end up filling in a form sending it off , only to get an answer the form was blank. Always worth checking a file exported as a pdf, is what you think you want. Xpdf tells the truth, but its only a reader. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120114200842.2022f...@lappy.g8jvm.com
Re: editing pdf files
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:48:43 + (UTC) Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2012-01-14, Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl wrote: Acroread should be able to do it, it's in the non-free repository. It is? Acroread both linux and win thing failed to save these forms, with an error Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120114201015.37dc1...@lappy.g8jvm.com
Re: editing pdf files
John A. Sullivan III: Form filling is not in the base package. I believe you need to install the acroread-plugins for that to work Indeed, after installing package acroread-plugins, acroread does form filling. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120114213309.8da48f9f.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
Re: editing pdf files
On 2012-01-14, richard richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Hi Evince only looks like it can be used for forms. Works for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjh3pms.41d.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: editing pdf files
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 20:10 +, richard wrote: On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:48:43 + (UTC) Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2012-01-14, Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl wrote: Acroread should be able to do it, it's in the non-free repository. It is? Acroread both linux and win thing failed to save these forms, with an error Richard If form filling is what you are doing, that is very strange. The form fill plugin has worked well for our clients as far as I know. Is there any chance there is something wrong with the form? - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1326573584.31393.381.ca...@denise.theartistscloset.com
Re: editing pdf files
Curt wrote: On 2012-01-14, Siard wrote: Acroread should be able to do it, it's in the non-free repository. It is? In Wheezy: $ apt-cache policy acroread acroread: Installed: 9.4.6-0.1 ... http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ wheezy/non-free i386 Packages ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120114214225.faf82801.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
Re: editing pdf files
John A. Sullivan III wrote: This is a real hole in the Linux desktop environment. I disagree. PDFs are not _meant_ to be edited. Even Adobe Acrobat has very limited options to edit a PDF. There are third party plugins for Acrobat that can do some more editing, but it's still rather limited. I've just started to use pdfedit, but haven't even delved beneath the surface yet. I have found that by opening a pdf in this app, I can gain access to'select all', 'copy' and then paste into LibreOffice Writer. Use this as an editor, then 'export to pdf'. Regards, Weaver. -- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Lucius Annæus Seneca. Terrorism, the new religion. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/479b43fcc6bfdbf14bd762643f6b3700.squir...@fulvetta.riseup.net
Re: editing pdf files
On 2012-01-14, Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl wrote: Acroread should be able to do it, it's in the non-free repository. It is? In Wheezy: $ apt-cache policy acroread acroread: Installed: 9.4.6-0.1 ... http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ wheezy/non-free i386 Packages ... When I refer to non-free, I mean the official __debian__ non-free repository, which is what I thought you meant, and not a third-party repository, which is what you really meant. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjh3s2a.456.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: editing pdf files
Hello richard, richard richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: You end up filling in a form sending it off , only to get an answer the form was blank. Always worth checking a file exported as a pdf, is what you think you want. Xpdf tells the truth, but its only a reader. You can try printing the filled-in form as PDF from within Evince and send the printout. Best regards, Claudius -- I'm having fun HITCHHIKING to CINCINNATI or FAR ROCKAWAY!! Please use GPG: ECB0C2C7 4A4C4046 446ADF86 C08112E5 D72CDBA4 http://chubig.net/ http://nightfall.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120114221811.5cce9...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: editing pdf files
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 01:00:35PM -0800, Weaver wrote: John A. Sullivan III wrote: This is a real hole in the Linux desktop environment. I disagree. PDFs are not _meant_ to be edited. Even Adobe Acrobat has very limited options to edit a PDF. There are third party plugins for Acrobat that can do some more editing, but it's still rather limited. I've just started to use pdfedit, but haven't even delved beneath the surface yet. I have found that by opening a pdf in this app, I can gain access to'select all', 'copy' and then paste into LibreOffice Writer. Use this as an editor, then 'export to pdf'. Regards, For something like that, you could just as easily use pdftotext $pdffile $textfile then edit the resulting textfile in LO, or whatever. Of course, it only works with pdf files that were built from text, not scans/image files. ./tony -- http://tonybaldwin.me/hax free software by tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120114220852.ga18...@deathstar.hsd1.ct.comcast.net
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can acroread and acroread-plugins work in a command line environment or is this strictly gui?On Sat, 14 Jan 2012, Siard wrote: John A. Sullivan III: Form filling is not in the base package. I believe you need to install the acroread-plugins for that to work Indeed, after installing package acroread-plugins, acroread does form filling. Thanks. Jude jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bsf.2.01.1201141746090.82...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg
Re: editing pdf files
On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 21:50 +, richard wrote: Greetings, Is there any free app which can edit pdf files. Evince looks like it does it, you can edit, send it as an attachment and read it with another copy of evince and you can see the alterations. Open it on a poxy winblos machine with acrobat or acroread, and the edited sections are as the original. xpdf also shows the original before editing.. help TIA Richard This is a real hole in the Linux desktop environment. There are no good options. Here are the ones of which I know: 1) OpenOffice PDF plugin - probably the best potential but it still sometimes chokes on some PDFs or mangles the formatting badly. 2) Xournal - good and simple if you only want to add text but nothing beyond that. 3) GIMP - extremely powerful and consequently complicated and it can only edit a page at a time. 4) Inkscape or Scribus - powerful and consequently complicated, can only edit a page at a time (not sure about that for Scribus), crashes frequently and sometimes completely chokes on the PDF. 5) pdfeditor - potentially the most powerful of the options but still limited, difficult to use, and immature. I sure wish it was different as this is a major problem for us. I'd be absolutely delighted if I was wrong about this - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1326492581.31393.332.ca...@denise.theartistscloset.com
Re: editing pdf files
John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com wrote: 1) OpenOffice PDF plugin - probably the best potential but it still sometimes chokes on some PDFs or mangles the formatting badly. 2) Xournal - good and simple if you only want to add text but nothing beyond that. 3) GIMP - extremely powerful and consequently complicated and it can only edit a page at a time. 4) Inkscape or Scribus - powerful and consequently complicated, can only edit a page at a time (not sure about that for Scribus), crashes frequently and sometimes completely chokes on the PDF. 5) pdfeditor - potentially the most powerful of the options but still limited, difficult to use, and immature. I would also suggest having a look at PDF XViewer, a Windows freeware tool that runs rather fine in wine. Much better than anything I’ve used before. -- Why did the Roman Empire collapse? What is the Latin for office automation? Please use GPG: ECB0C2C7 4A4C4046 446ADF86 C08112E5 D72CDBA4 http://chubig.net/ http://nightfall.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120113232005.25337...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: editing pdf files
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:20:05 +0100 Claudius Hubig nfs_2...@chubig.net wrote: John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com wrote: 1) OpenOffice PDF plugin - probably the best potential but it still sometimes chokes on some PDFs or mangles the formatting badly. 2) Xournal - good and simple if you only want to add text but nothing beyond that. 3) GIMP - extremely powerful and consequently complicated and it can only edit a page at a time. 4) Inkscape or Scribus - powerful and consequently complicated, can only edit a page at a time (not sure about that for Scribus), crashes frequently and sometimes completely chokes on the PDF. 5) pdfeditor - potentially the most powerful of the options but still limited, difficult to use, and immature. I would also suggest having a look at PDF XViewer, a Windows freeware tool that runs rather fine in wine. Much better than anything I’ve used before. Thanks Guys I'll try the pdf plugin for open office/libreoffice, it may do it. Its my sons machine, so try to keep it simple. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120113223920.40afb...@lappy.g8jvm.com
Re: editing pdf files
John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com writes: On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 21:50 +, richard wrote: Greetings, Is there any free app which can edit pdf files. Evince looks like it does it, you can edit, send it as an attachment and read it with another copy of evince and you can see the alterations. Open it on a poxy winblos machine with acrobat or acroread, and the edited sections are as the original. xpdf also shows the original before editing.. help TIA Richard This is a real hole in the Linux desktop environment. There are no good options. Here are the ones of which I know: 1) OpenOffice PDF plugin - probably the best potential but it still sometimes chokes on some PDFs or mangles the formatting badly. Didn't know about this one -- I need to try it... 2) Xournal - good and simple if you only want to add text but nothing beyond that. 3) GIMP - extremely powerful and consequently complicated and it can only edit a page at a time. And it completely loses the document structure: it edits it as an image. Even if you save the result as a PDF, it's just a big image. 4) Inkscape or Scribus - powerful and consequently complicated, can only edit a page at a time (not sure about that for Scribus), crashes frequently and sometimes completely chokes on the PDF. 5) pdfeditor - potentially the most powerful of the options but still limited, difficult to use, and immature. I sure wish it was different as this is a major problem for us. I'd be absolutely delighted if I was wrong about this - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1bwr8vuq1u@pfeifferfamily.net