Re: editors and browsers

2000-07-24 Thread I. Tura

2. Are there any graphics based web browsers available for Linux other
than Netscape? If yes, are there release versions of these browsers?


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Re: editors and browsers

2000-07-24 Thread André Dahlqvist
On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 12:56:22AM +0200, I. Tura wrote:

 2. Are there any graphics based web browsers available for Linux
 other than Netscape? If yes, are there release versions of these
 browsers?

Check out Mozilla. It's of course a project started and funded by
Netscape, but their browser is a *major* rewrite since netscape 4.7.
Mozilla is also very usable these days, and bugs gets fixed each day. I
would recommend that you download one of the nightly snapshots and try
it out. http://www.mozilla.org
-- 

// André



Re: editors and browsers

2000-07-24 Thread Pat Mahoney
On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 03:28:32PM -0400, Thomas Kirsch wrote:
 1. Are there any WYSIWYG email editors available for Linux? Preferentially
 any that would run also on Windows?

I believe mahongony is an email client that uses wxWindows toolkit
and runs in windows and linux.  I don't know about wxWindows in
Windows, I assume you have to install some package...

It is graphical and full featured but in my experience from several
months ago (linux version) I'm afraid this mail client is not
entirely stable. (yes that's a modified quote from Star Wars).

 
 2. Are there any graphics based web browsers available for Linux other
 than Netscape? If yes, are there release versions of these browsers?

mozilla is rather slow and unstable yet, gzilla is faster and more
unstable... w3m is the best (text broswer that supports tables and,
*ack* frames).  If run in an xterm w3m can open images via
imagemagick (or maybe it uses mime database, I've never checked). 
Now if only html authors would make their pages cleaner for text
browsers...

Oh, mnemonic [http://www.mnemonic.org/  I think?] is also a pretty
unstable, gtk using browser.

I heard a rumor that eazel (or was it helixcode?) was writing a file
manager/web browser called nautilus for gnome.  So far it's
vaporware AFAIK.

 
 Thomas Kirsch
 

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Re: editors and browsers

2000-07-24 Thread David S. Jackson
On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 03:32:48PM -0500 Pat Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 03:28:32PM -0400, Thomas Kirsch wrote:
  1. Are there any WYSIWYG email editors available for Linux? Preferentially
  any that would run also on Windows?
 
 I believe mahongony is an email client that uses wxWindows toolkit
 and runs in windows and linux.  I don't know about wxWindows in
 Windows, I assume you have to install some package...
 
 It is graphical and full featured but in my experience from several
 months ago (linux version) I'm afraid this mail client is not
 entirely stable. (yes that's a modified quote from Star Wars).

Another graphical linux client, if you're so inclined, is
something called Pronto.  http://www.muhri.net/pronto

I haven't tried it at all, but it looks rather interesting, if
you're into graphical clients.

  
  2. Are there any graphics based web browsers available for Linux other
  than Netscape? If yes, are there release versions of these browsers?

In short, no.  There are lots of projects in the works, but none
that are ready for prime time yet that I know of.

If you're really into using graphical clients, you might consider
using VMware.  That's a virtual machine that lets you switch back
and forth between simultaneous sessions of different OSes, such
as Windows and Linux.  You need some recent hardware to run it
on; its demands are significant.  

The real answer to your question, I think, is to consider looking
into the non-graphical equivalents.  Once you understand how the
internet protocols work, text is really the native language you
want to be dealing with.  

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Re: editors and browsers

2000-07-24 Thread Ødegaard
* Pat Mahoney
|
| I heard a rumor that eazel (or was it helixcode?) was writing a file
| manager/web browser called nautilus for gnome.  So far it's
| vaporware AFAIK.

This is hardly a rumour, I think; check

http://nautilus.eazel.com/

Whether Nautilus is vapor or not really depends on your definition;
the code is fully availible from GNOME CVS.

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 You now need only to match it with knowledge.

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Re: [Re: editors and browsers]

2000-07-24 Thread Thomas Kirsch
I am using Mozilla and I am very dissappointed with it. It is quite unstable
and the interface looks extremely boring.
It is less usable than Netscape 4.7. I wish there were a browser that is
for Linux what Microsoft Internet Explorer is for windows only without the
proprietory extensions.

Thomas Kirsch

André Dahlqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 12:56:22AM +0200, I. Tura wrote:

 2. Are there any graphics based web browsers available for Linux
 other than Netscape? If yes, are there release versions of these
 browsers?

Check out Mozilla. It's of course a project started and funded by
Netscape, but their browser is a *major* rewrite since netscape 4.7.
Mozilla is also very usable these days, and bugs gets fixed each day. I
would recommend that you download one of the nightly snapshots and try
it out. http://www.mozilla.org
-- 

// André



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Re: [Re: editors and browsers]

2000-07-24 Thread Thomas Kirsch
I found that even W3's browser does not fully support cascading style
sheets.

Thomas Kirsch

I. Tura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

2. Are there any graphics based web browsers available for Linux other
than Netscape? If yes, are there release versions of these browsers?


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Re: editors and browsers

2000-07-23 Thread Mike Werner
Thomas Kirsch wrote:
 1. Are there any WYSIWYG email editors available for Linux? Preferentially
 any that would run also on Windows?

I really don't know quite what you mean by a WYSIWYG email editor.  I know
of two email clients that exist for both Linux and Windoze - they are
Netscape and pine.  There might be others, but I don't know of them.

Of course, there's also the possibility of trying to run a Windoze client
under something like Wine.  There's a fellow on another list I'm on that
uses the Juno client under Wine.

 2. Are there any graphics based web browsers available for Linux other
 than Netscape?

Yes.  Ones I've used are Mozilla (Netscape 6 is based on this), Opera (not
very usable yet), gzilla (very basic).  There are at least a few others, but
I'm not very familiar with them.

 If yes, are there release versions of these browsers?

Again, I really don't know what you mean by this.
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Re: editors and browsers

2000-07-23 Thread kmself
On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 03:28:32PM -0400, Thomas Kirsch wrote:
 1. Are there any WYSIWYG email editors available for Linux? Preferentially
 any that would run also on Windows?

I believe you mean GUI.  WYSIWYG doesn't apply to email, in which
you've no control over recipient client interpretation of client.
Netscape and Mozilla are compatible with both Linux and legacy MS Windows.  
Several mailers use standard mailbox formats allowing sharing of files.
A better general approach is to set up an IMAP server and access this
from various systems.  Divorce your client from your server and storage.

 2. Are there any graphics based web browsers available for Linux other
 than Netscape? If yes, are there release versions of these browsers?

This is a FAQ answered several times a week here and on Usenet.
Search Google or Deja for general lists, or Freshmeat
(http://www.freshmeat.net/) for sets of clients.  Netscape is probably
the most commonly used browser, though it's a PITA.  I've also posted
tips on improving your Netscape experience through various config
options.

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