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2. Are there any graphics based web browsers available for Linux other than Netscape? If yes, are there release versions of these browsers? Arena. (http://www.w3.org. Also available in main section of Debian FTP) _ \___||/ \__| els fills abandonats |___/ \_||__/ from BarcelonaCatalonia ___ Do You Yahoo!? Achetez, vendez! À votre prix! Sur http://encheres.yahoo.fr
Re: editors and browsers
On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 12:56:22AM +0200, I. Tura wrote: 2. Are there any graphics based web browsers available for Linux other than Netscape? If yes, are there release versions of these browsers? Check out Mozilla. It's of course a project started and funded by Netscape, but their browser is a *major* rewrite since netscape 4.7. Mozilla is also very usable these days, and bugs gets fixed each day. I would recommend that you download one of the nightly snapshots and try it out. http://www.mozilla.org -- // André
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On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 03:28:32PM -0400, Thomas Kirsch wrote: 1. Are there any WYSIWYG email editors available for Linux? Preferentially any that would run also on Windows? I believe mahongony is an email client that uses wxWindows toolkit and runs in windows and linux. I don't know about wxWindows in Windows, I assume you have to install some package... It is graphical and full featured but in my experience from several months ago (linux version) I'm afraid this mail client is not entirely stable. (yes that's a modified quote from Star Wars). 2. Are there any graphics based web browsers available for Linux other than Netscape? If yes, are there release versions of these browsers? mozilla is rather slow and unstable yet, gzilla is faster and more unstable... w3m is the best (text broswer that supports tables and, *ack* frames). If run in an xterm w3m can open images via imagemagick (or maybe it uses mime database, I've never checked). Now if only html authors would make their pages cleaner for text browsers... Oh, mnemonic [http://www.mnemonic.org/ I think?] is also a pretty unstable, gtk using browser. I heard a rumor that eazel (or was it helixcode?) was writing a file manager/web browser called nautilus for gnome. So far it's vaporware AFAIK. Thomas Kirsch -- Pat Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those of you who think you know everything are annoying those of us who do :)
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On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 03:32:48PM -0500 Pat Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 03:28:32PM -0400, Thomas Kirsch wrote: 1. Are there any WYSIWYG email editors available for Linux? Preferentially any that would run also on Windows? I believe mahongony is an email client that uses wxWindows toolkit and runs in windows and linux. I don't know about wxWindows in Windows, I assume you have to install some package... It is graphical and full featured but in my experience from several months ago (linux version) I'm afraid this mail client is not entirely stable. (yes that's a modified quote from Star Wars). Another graphical linux client, if you're so inclined, is something called Pronto. http://www.muhri.net/pronto I haven't tried it at all, but it looks rather interesting, if you're into graphical clients. 2. Are there any graphics based web browsers available for Linux other than Netscape? If yes, are there release versions of these browsers? In short, no. There are lots of projects in the works, but none that are ready for prime time yet that I know of. If you're really into using graphical clients, you might consider using VMware. That's a virtual machine that lets you switch back and forth between simultaneous sessions of different OSes, such as Windows and Linux. You need some recent hardware to run it on; its demands are significant. The real answer to your question, I think, is to consider looking into the non-graphical equivalents. Once you understand how the internet protocols work, text is really the native language you want to be dealing with. -- David S. Jackson[EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ain't nothin' an old man can do for me but bring me a message from a young man. -- Moms Mabley
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* Pat Mahoney | | I heard a rumor that eazel (or was it helixcode?) was writing a file | manager/web browser called nautilus for gnome. So far it's | vaporware AFAIK. This is hardly a rumour, I think; check http://nautilus.eazel.com/ Whether Nautilus is vapor or not really depends on your definition; the code is fully availible from GNOME CVS. -- Your willingness to help is valuable. You now need only to match it with knowledge. -- Richard Heathfield, 2000-07-11, in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I am using Mozilla and I am very dissappointed with it. It is quite unstable and the interface looks extremely boring. It is less usable than Netscape 4.7. I wish there were a browser that is for Linux what Microsoft Internet Explorer is for windows only without the proprietory extensions. Thomas Kirsch André Dahlqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 12:56:22AM +0200, I. Tura wrote: 2. Are there any graphics based web browsers available for Linux other than Netscape? If yes, are there release versions of these browsers? Check out Mozilla. It's of course a project started and funded by Netscape, but their browser is a *major* rewrite since netscape 4.7. Mozilla is also very usable these days, and bugs gets fixed each day. I would recommend that you download one of the nightly snapshots and try it out. http://www.mozilla.org -- // André Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1
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I found that even W3's browser does not fully support cascading style sheets. Thomas Kirsch I. Tura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Are there any graphics based web browsers available for Linux other than Netscape? If yes, are there release versions of these browsers? Arena. (http://www.w3.org. Also available in main section of Debian FTP) _ \___||/ \__| els fills abandonats |___/ \_||__/ from BarcelonaCatalonia ___ Do You Yahoo!? Achetez, vendez! À votre prix! Sur http://encheres.yahoo.fr Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1
Re: editors and browsers
Thomas Kirsch wrote: 1. Are there any WYSIWYG email editors available for Linux? Preferentially any that would run also on Windows? I really don't know quite what you mean by a WYSIWYG email editor. I know of two email clients that exist for both Linux and Windoze - they are Netscape and pine. There might be others, but I don't know of them. Of course, there's also the possibility of trying to run a Windoze client under something like Wine. There's a fellow on another list I'm on that uses the Juno client under Wine. 2. Are there any graphics based web browsers available for Linux other than Netscape? Yes. Ones I've used are Mozilla (Netscape 6 is based on this), Opera (not very usable yet), gzilla (very basic). There are at least a few others, but I'm not very familiar with them. If yes, are there release versions of these browsers? Again, I really don't know what you mean by this. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and | everything is of great understanding, '91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom.
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On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 03:28:32PM -0400, Thomas Kirsch wrote: 1. Are there any WYSIWYG email editors available for Linux? Preferentially any that would run also on Windows? I believe you mean GUI. WYSIWYG doesn't apply to email, in which you've no control over recipient client interpretation of client. Netscape and Mozilla are compatible with both Linux and legacy MS Windows. Several mailers use standard mailbox formats allowing sharing of files. A better general approach is to set up an IMAP server and access this from various systems. Divorce your client from your server and storage. 2. Are there any graphics based web browsers available for Linux other than Netscape? If yes, are there release versions of these browsers? This is a FAQ answered several times a week here and on Usenet. Search Google or Deja for general lists, or Freshmeat (http://www.freshmeat.net/) for sets of clients. Netscape is probably the most commonly used browser, though it's a PITA. I've also posted tips on improving your Netscape experience through various config options. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpusa8M9F8DE.pgp Description: PGP signature