Re: ext2/ext3 filesystems

2003-12-30 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:00:23 +0100, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

 During the boot, I get the following warning:
 
 Partition check:
  /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: [PTBL] [1021/255/63] p1 p2 p3
 ext3: No journal on filesystem on ide0(3,1)

Sounds like the kernel investigating whether the root partition should be
mounted as ext3 (in case a journal is found) or ext2. I think this is not
a warning, but a normal message when the kernel is compiled with static
ext3 and the root fs is ext2. I'm not sure how to read the (3,1) notation,
but Paul's mail looks good :-)

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Re: ext2/ext3 filesystems

2003-12-30 Thread Jan Minar
On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 02:15:20PM +0100, Sebastian Kapfer wrote:
 On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:00:23 +0100, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
  ext3: No journal on filesystem on ide0(3,1)
snip
 ext3 and the root fs is ext2. I'm not sure how to read the (3,1) notation,

It's a device, major 3, minor 1, i.e. the first partition of the first
IDE thing:
brw-rw1 root disk   3,   1 Mar 14  2002 /dev/hda1

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Re: ext2/ext3 filesystems

2003-12-30 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting Sebastian Kapfer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:00:23 +0100, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
 
  During the boot, I get the following warning:
  
  Partition check:
   /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: [PTBL] [1021/255/63] p1 p2 p3
  ext3: No journal on filesystem on ide0(3,1)
 
 Sounds like the kernel investigating whether the root partition should be
 mounted as ext3 (in case a journal is found) or ext2. I think this is not
 a warning, but a normal message when the kernel is compiled with static
 ext3 and the root fs is ext2. I'm not sure how to read the (3,1) notation,
 but Paul's mail looks good :-)
 
I think you are right.  I put a journal on the root partition and now
there is a appropriately different message at the same point in the
boot process.  ext2 and ext3 are both modules in this kernel.

Jeffrey


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Re: ext2/ext3 filesystems

2003-12-28 Thread W. Paul Mills
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 22:52:29 +, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

 During the boot, I get the following warning:
 
 Partition check:
  /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: [PTBL] [1021/255/63] p1 p2 p3
 ext3: No journal on filesystem on ide0(3,1)
 
 Is this /dev/hda3 it is talking about?  And why does it think it is an
 ext3 filesystem?  /etc/fstab and the superblock both think it is ext2. 
 What thinks it is ext3?

Sounds like /dev/hda1 to me (major device 3, minor 1). Is this your boot
disk? If so, could be before /etc/fstab is read.

$ vdir /dev/hda?
brw-rw1 root disk   3,   1 Jul 20  1998 /dev/hda1
brw-rw1 root disk   3,   2 Jul 20  1998 /dev/hda2
brw-rw1 root disk   3,   3 Jul 20  1998 /dev/hda3
brw-rw1 root disk   3,   4 Jul 20  1998 /dev/hda4
brw-rw1 root disk   3,   5 Jul 20  1998 /dev/hda5
brw-rw1 root disk   3,   6 Jul 20  1998 /dev/hda6
brw-rw1 root disk   3,   7 Jul 20  1998 /dev/hda7
brw-rw1 root disk   3,   8 Jul 20  1998 /dev/hda8
brw-rw1 root disk   3,   9 Jul 20  1998 /dev/hda9


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Re: ext2/ext3 filesystems

2003-12-28 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 16:52:29 -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

 During the boot, I get the following warning:
 
 Partition check:
  /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: [PTBL] [1021/255/63] p1 p2 p3
 ext3: No journal on filesystem on ide0(3,1)
 
 Is this /dev/hda3 it is talking about?  And why does it think it is an
 ext3 filesystem?  /etc/fstab and the superblock both think it is
 ext2.  What thinks it is ext3?
 
 TIA,
   Jeffrey

It looks like it's complaining about /dev/hda1
(/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1).

Maybe you're trying to mount an ext2 fs as an ext3.

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Re: ext2/ext3 filesystems

2003-12-28 Thread Florentin Ionescu
Did you compile a new kernel with devfs enabled ? Do you want/need devfs ?
Man lilo.conf should help, options for devfs=xxx.

When you run lilo what is the output ?

This URL might help:
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-fs5.html




On Sat, 27 Dec 2003, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote :

» Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 16:52:29 -0600
» From: Jeffrey L. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
» To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
» Subject: ext2/ext3 filesystems
» Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 16:52:35 -0600 (CST)
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» During the boot, I get the following warning:
»
» Partition check:
»  /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: [PTBL] [1021/255/63] p1 p2 p3
» ext3: No journal on filesystem on ide0(3,1)
»
» Is this /dev/hda3 it is talking about?  And why does it think it is an
» ext3 filesystem?  /etc/fstab and the superblock both think it is
» ext2.  What thinks it is ext3?
»
» TIA,
»   Jeffrey
»
»
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Re: ext2/ext3 filesystems

2003-12-28 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting Jeffrey L. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 During the boot, I get the following warning:
 
 Partition check:
  /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: [PTBL] [1021/255/63] p1 p2 p3
 ext3: No journal on filesystem on ide0(3,1)
 
 Is this /dev/hda3 it is talking about?  And why does it think it is an
 ext3 filesystem?  /etc/fstab and the superblock both think it is
 ext2.  What thinks it is ext3?
 

AFAICT, this is just an information message.  It is before the partition
is mounted.  I think because the kernel has ext3 module, it checks
during the boot process.  I have put ext3 journals on both partitions and
now I get similar, but opposite message(s) informing me that it found
a journal.  The partitions are mounted as ext3 filesystems.

I ran across resources telling/warning that LILO can read ext3
filesystems, but not all boot loaders can.  For some you have to
create a tiny ext2 boot partition that the boot loader can read and
then the other partitions can be anything the kernel, with modules,
can read (though if the root partition is anything not compiled into
the kernel, you have to use an initial ramdisk).

Jeffrey


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Re: ext2/ext3 filesystems

2003-12-28 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:02:38 -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

 Quoting Jeffrey L. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 During the boot, I get the following warning:
 
 Partition check:
  /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: [PTBL] [1021/255/63] p1 p2 p3
 ext3: No journal on filesystem on ide0(3,1)
 
 Is this /dev/hda3 it is talking about?  And why does it think it is an
 ext3 filesystem?  /etc/fstab and the superblock both think it is
 ext2.  What thinks it is ext3?
 
 
 AFAICT, this is just an information message.  It is before the partition
 is mounted.  I think because the kernel has ext3 module, it checks
 during the boot process.  I have put ext3 journals on both partitions and
 now I get similar, but opposite message(s) informing me that it found
 a journal.  The partitions are mounted as ext3 filesystems.
 
 I ran across resources telling/warning that LILO can read ext3
 filesystems, but not all boot loaders can.  For some you have to
 create a tiny ext2 boot partition that the boot loader can read and
 then the other partitions can be anything the kernel, with modules,
 can read (though if the root partition is anything not compiled into
 the kernel, you have to use an initial ramdisk).
 
 Jeffrey

Jeffrey,

lilo doesn't need to know about filesystems at boot time.  At install time
it creates a map of the files it needs in terms of physical disk
addresses which it uses at boot.  Grub, OTOH, has to grok filesystems at
boot time.  This is why you have to reinstall lilo if you make changes
which invalidate lilo's system map, and also is why lilo is small and
grub is big.

ext3 filesystems can be mounted and read as ext2. The only difference on
the filesystem itself is the presence of the journal. The poster's problem
is the opposite. IMO, He is either trying to mount an ext2 as an ext3, or
the filesystem is ext3 but the journal has been removed.  Or something's
messed with the fs features in the superblock, which seems unlikely to me.

Just an amateur opinion, I'm no filesystem expert.

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