Re: help to choose right printer to buy
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 09:23:07 +1000, Rob Hurle wrote: > On 30 July 2011 00:48, Camaleón wrote: >> On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:52:20 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote: >> >> If in doubt, look for the one that features PostScript support. In the >> worst scenario, PS printers should be able to work with generic PS >> driver. > > Yes, Postscript support will get you out of a lot of trouble. > >> Yes, just some suggestions: >> >> - The more RAM it has, the better :-) - Consider HP laserjet printers >> (more expensive but rock solid) - Consider adding color, prices are >> very low right now... > > Correction. HP laserjet printers used to be rock solid. No more. I don't think so. HP lasterjet printers are still very good. More plastic than then but still very well designed. I'm speaking of those starting at ~200€/250$, less than that is a toy :-) > Colour laser printers are cheap, but toner is not. Never it was. At least for HP printers. > Manufacturers these days provide small capacity toners with the printer > but after around 500 or so pages you've got to go back and maybe spend > as much as the original printer price on toners. There are good deals in the web for toners cartridges. > This is OK, but you need to be aware of it. 3rd party toner cartridges > are not always satisfactory - particularly for alignment and for > evenness of colour. I never buy third-party toner nor refills... Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.30.09.28...@gmail.com
Re: help to choose right printer to buy
On Jul 26, 2011 9:43 PM, "Rob Hurle" wrote: > > >> I've had an HP LaserJet p1102w for almost two years now. I've used it > >> with Lenny, then Squeeze, and now Wheezy with no problems. Even the > >> wireless printing works. No duplexing, unless you count manual :) IMHO, > >> HP has the best support for Linux when it comes to printers > >> (http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html) > > > > I currently have All-in-One HP OfficeJet 6310. It is my first HP > > printer and probably the last one. I do not like neither the company nor > > their printers. They capitalize on their former reputation for quality. > > But the reality is, their printers today are flimsy, of low specs, and > > over priced, as well as over priced is their supply line. Lately HP seems > > to be mostly concerned of how to prevent their customers to use third > > party supplies. In this they did achieve real heights. > > Agreed about HP. Once upon a time, their engineering and support was > first-rate, but the modern printers don't match up - there's a lot > better out there. I had a HP2605dn (colour laser) and only the most > expensive HP toner cartridges worked in it, and they invariably left > around 10% of the toner in the cartridge at failure point. The design > of the printer is such that dust falls on to the mirrors in the > (Canon!) printing engine and the whole thing has to be dismantled to > clean them - a half-day job for the experienced. Never again HP! > I totally agree with all of the above. I don't know what your situation is, however when I needed a printer this is what I did: Went on Craigslist and found sub-$100 laser printers. Called a guy up with an HP 4050tn listed for $65. Asked him if there were odd noises or anything else. He answered ok, so I arranged a time, picked up some paper, and stopped by. The lcd was half bad and the nic was missing but it didn't have any defects printing. I gave him $50 for it. Got on eBay and bought a $5 jetdirect card and an $8 lcd (shipping on each averaged $2.50). The lcd required a jewler's flat head and the nic is just a thumb screw. Now, I'm not getting support with it, it has printed 120k pages, your new printer *might* print faster than mine, and I had to fix two things. However, if anyone can beat the <$70 price on a quality laser printer, I'm all ears. Oh, and IIRC a duplexer would cost me <$100 and an hdd would be ~$20. Cartridges will cost me $70+. in a few years whenever this one that I got with the printer that's half full runs out. :) In short, most tech, I buy new. Laser printers, I'll buy a 10 year old tank before I even consider something new. Oh, I didn't mention support. But, I really don't think I need to here.
Re: help to choose right printer to buy
On 30 July 2011 00:48, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:52:20 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > > If in doubt, look for the one that features PostScript support. In the > worst scenario, PS printers should be able to work with generic PS driver. Yes, Postscript support will get you out of a lot of trouble. > Yes, just some suggestions: > > - The more RAM it has, the better :-) > - Consider HP laserjet printers (more expensive but rock solid) > - Consider adding color, prices are very low right now... Correction. HP laserjet printers used to be rock solid. No more. Colour laser printers are cheap, but the toner is not. Manufacturers these days provide small capacity toners with the printer but after around 500 or so pages you've got to go back and maybe spend as much as the original printer price on toners. This is OK, but you need to be aware of it. 3rd party toner cartridges are not always satisfactory - particularly for alignment and for evenness of colour. Cheers, Rob Hurle -- - Rob Hurle ANU, College of Asia and the Pacific School of Culture, History and Language Histories of Asia and the Pacific e-mail: rob1...@gmail.com Telephone (ANU): +61 2 6125 3169 Mobile (in VN): +84 948 243 538 Mobile (in OZ): +61 417 293 603 - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cabms7vhjdo5-qv4lek5znbzs7yn+mu3s3+toyo+kqgkkggm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: help to choose right printer to buy
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:52:20 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > I'm looking to buy one of these B/W Laser printers: > > Samsung ML-2855ND or Brother HL-2270DW. http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Samsung/Samsung-ML-2855ND http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Brother/Brother-HL-2270DW Support for both seems pretty good... > I have no personal experience with printers of these manufacturers and > have no idea how good their drivers/support are. (...) If in doubt, look for the one that features PostScript support. In the worst scenario, PS printers should be able to work with generic PS driver. > If you can suggest any better printer that I've picked up, please, do. Yes, just some suggestions: - The more RAM it has, the better :-) - Consider HP laserjet printers (more expensive but rock solid) - Consider adding color, prices are very low right now... Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.29.14.48...@gmail.com
Re: help to choose right printer to buy
One advantage of the HP "Eprint" printers (most new inkjet models, don't know about lasers) is you can send print jobs via either HP's Eprint service via email or through Google's Cloud Print from Gmail or Google Docs under Chrome, or from Android. No driver install needed because the job is rendered at the server. You can't scan this way, though. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALX2Y5UiYPw37wOf=RqWLX9PWA0abY7rd6=hb+nf57ytsra...@mail.gmail.com
Re: help to choose right printer to buy
On 27 Jul 2011, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > > yep - brothers have worked well for me too. > > Brian > I have two laser printers: Samsung ML2571N and Brother HL5240L. Both worked perfectly with magicfilter and lprng (I don't use Cups). For the Brother I used their supplied linux filter. I asked one or two questions via email from Brother; they seemed to know about linux. The only hiccup I encountered was making the Brother work on my local network; Brother support told me it wasn't an ethernet network printer, which of course I knew. But I got it to work via ssh once I'd figured out that I didn't need to have the driver in the printcap on the client machine. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk - sample my ebooks at http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/acampbell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110727162252.gb2...@ithaca.acampbell.org.uk
Re: help to choose right printer to buy
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:17:41 +0200, Siard wrote: > You can see that the HL-2270DW, too, works 'perfectly' in Linux: > www.openprinting.org/printer/Brother/Brother-HL-2270DW Yes, I've seen this as I already said in one of my posts. It's not clear from that information what distro and what version of it. Things change. The driver provided by Brother from the other hand is one year old. > AFAICS, its ppd is not (yet) contained in Debian by default, but you can > download it from the above page and install it equally easy using the > Cups interface ( http://localhost:631/ ). Well, I do not know if you tried to download it using that link. I've been trying for 2 days know with one result:"Server Error", and no download. And as you said ppd file for this specific printer is not in .deb package. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j0pe8f$6go$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: help to choose right printer to buy
Juan R. de Silva wrote:
> The difference between Brother and Samsung customer support was
> impressive even on this level. I might be wrong, but after such
> experience I would expect to find the same difference on the upper as
> well.
I would not judge them from the knowledge of just one individual.
I have a Brother HL-5240L b/w laser printer, and as I understand from
the manual, they are just starting to support Linux, and plan to extend
their support in the future.
My HL-5240L could easily be installed using the Cups interface ('Add
printer...'), the ppd is even present in Debian by default.
It works perfectly, including the 'Toner save' setting (prints dark
gray instead of black).
You can see that the HL-2270DW, too, works 'perfectly' in Linux:
www.openprinting.org/printer/Brother/Brother-HL-2270DW
AFAICS, its ppd is not (yet) contained in Debian by default, but you can
download it from the above page and install it equally easy using the
Cups interface ( http://localhost:631/ ).
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Re: help to choose right printer to buy
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:52:57 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:43:06AM +, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:13:34 -0400, Michael Checca wrote: > > > > > Again, Brother support is horrible. I wouldn't expect them to be > > > engineers, but to at least have heard of Linux and know that is a kernel > > > not an OS :) > > > > After I made a post, I phoned Samsung support, just out of curiosity. > > As normal, I faced up a girl from the 1st line support. Yes, she was not > > an engineer. But she firmly new what Linux is, she was well aware of the > > existence of different distributions, their versions, and the difference > > between 32/64 bit environments. She even was able to locate for me > > another printer that officially states Debian 6.01 supported. Though it > > was in no use for me. > > > > The difference between Brother and Samsung customer support was > > impressive even on this level. I might be wrong, but after such > > experience I would expect to find the same difference on the upper as > > well. > > > > Shame on Brother. I guess this takes their puppy out of my list. Not that > > I really needed their support (except drivers) or counted on it. But I > > get suspicious about quality of the printer itself now. This is how it > > works. :-) > > I'll just say that I've purchased quite a few Brother lasers, > and they are: > > - very Linux compatible if you access them over ethernet > > - very reliable -- comparable to the better years of HP > > - generally inexpensive, both in the beginning and for > consumables like toner. > > - and I've never dealt with their support at all. > > -dsr- > > yep - brothers have worked well for me too. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110727073936.7fda9...@windy.deldotd.com
Re: help to choose right printer to buy
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:43:06AM +, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:13:34 -0400, Michael Checca wrote: > > > Again, Brother support is horrible. I wouldn't expect them to be > > engineers, but to at least have heard of Linux and know that is a kernel > > not an OS :) > > After I made a post, I phoned Samsung support, just out of curiosity. > As normal, I faced up a girl from the 1st line support. Yes, she was not > an engineer. But she firmly new what Linux is, she was well aware of the > existence of different distributions, their versions, and the difference > between 32/64 bit environments. She even was able to locate for me > another printer that officially states Debian 6.01 supported. Though it > was in no use for me. > > The difference between Brother and Samsung customer support was > impressive even on this level. I might be wrong, but after such > experience I would expect to find the same difference on the upper as > well. > > Shame on Brother. I guess this takes their puppy out of my list. Not that > I really needed their support (except drivers) or counted on it. But I > get suspicious about quality of the printer itself now. This is how it > works. :-) I'll just say that I've purchased quite a few Brother lasers, and they are: - very Linux compatible if you access them over ethernet - very reliable -- comparable to the better years of HP - generally inexpensive, both in the beginning and for consumables like toner. - and I've never dealt with their support at all. -dsr- -- http://tao.merseine.nu/~dsr/eula.html is hereby incorporated by reference. You can't fight for freedom by taking away rights. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110727135257.gv17...@tao.merseine.nu
Re: help to choose right printer to buy
> After I made a post, I phoned Samsung support, just out of curiosity. > As normal, I faced up a girl from the 1st line support. Yes, she was not > an engineer. But she firmly new what Linux is, she was well aware of the > existence of different distributions, their versions, and the difference > between 32/64 bit environments. She even was able to locate for me > another printer that officially states Debian 6.01 supported. Though it > was in no use for me. Very encouraging. Not everyone's like this. I have a Canon and their support is not good. Their web site boasts drivers for Linux (including .deb files) but by following their instructions the printer is not installed into CUPS and gives an error message (can't remember what it is). The Canon support people looked at the problem and the final response was that "Canon printers are not supported on Linux". However, there is one guy who has persevered with this and has a script that will install Canon printers on Debian: http://radu.cotescu.com/how-to-install-canon-lbp-printers-in-ubuntu/ (Thank you Radu!). I have verified this for, at least, a Canon LBP7200C on Debian Lenny and Squeeze. >> I've had an HP LaserJet p1102w for almost two years now. I've used it >> with Lenny, then Squeeze, and now Wheezy with no problems. Even the >> wireless printing works. No duplexing, unless you count manual :) IMHO, >> HP has the best support for Linux when it comes to printers >> (http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html) > > I currently have All-in-One HP OfficeJet 6310. It is my first HP > printer and probably the last one. I do not like neither the company nor > their printers. They capitalize on their former reputation for quality. > But the reality is, their printers today are flimsy, of low specs, and > over priced, as well as over priced is their supply line. Lately HP seems > to be mostly concerned of how to prevent their customers to use third > party supplies. In this they did achieve real heights. Agreed about HP. Once upon a time, their engineering and support was first-rate, but the modern printers don't match up - there's a lot better out there. I had a HP2605dn (colour laser) and only the most expensive HP toner cartridges worked in it, and they invariably left around 10% of the toner in the cartridge at failure point. The design of the printer is such that dust falls on to the mirrors in the (Canon!) printing engine and the whole thing has to be dismantled to clean them - a half-day job for the experienced. Never again HP! Cheers, Rob Hurle -- - Rob Hurle ANU, College of Asia and the Pacific School of Culture, History and Language Histories of Asia and the Pacific e-mail: rob1...@gmail.com Telephone (ANU): +61 2 6125 3169 Mobile (in VN): +84 948 243 538 Mobile (in OZ): +61 417 293 603 - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cabms7vhu0kb9m_yhw5tuovzko9m3dcoshvxkb31irjhmnev...@mail.gmail.com
Re: help to choose right printer to buy
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:13:34 -0400, Michael Checca wrote: > Again, Brother support is horrible. I wouldn't expect them to be > engineers, but to at least have heard of Linux and know that is a kernel > not an OS :) After I made a post, I phoned Samsung support, just out of curiosity. As normal, I faced up a girl from the 1st line support. Yes, she was not an engineer. But she firmly new what Linux is, she was well aware of the existence of different distributions, their versions, and the difference between 32/64 bit environments. She even was able to locate for me another printer that officially states Debian 6.01 supported. Though it was in no use for me. The difference between Brother and Samsung customer support was impressive even on this level. I might be wrong, but after such experience I would expect to find the same difference on the upper as well. Shame on Brother. I guess this takes their puppy out of my list. Not that I really needed their support (except drivers) or counted on it. But I get suspicious about quality of the printer itself now. This is how it works. :-) > I've had an HP LaserJet p1102w for almost two years now. I've used it > with Lenny, then Squeeze, and now Wheezy with no problems. Even the > wireless printing works. No duplexing, unless you count manual :) IMHO, > HP has the best support for Linux when it comes to printers > (http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html) I currently have All-in-One HP OfficeJet 6310. It is my first HP printer and probably the last one. I do not like neither the company nor their printers. They capitalize on their former reputation for quality. But the reality is, their printers today are flimsy, of low specs, and over priced, as well as over priced is their supply line. Lately HP seems to be mostly concerned of how to prevent their customers to use third party supplies. In this they did achieve real heights. I mostly agree that support for Linux is probably the best due to efforts of HPLIP project folks (or it is just one guy?). The driver is very good. I print, scan, and fax without any problem. And it has quite nice GUI interface too. Except one thing - manual duplex. The way it makes it is still incomprehensible for me. It's not enough that I have to turn manually the entire stack in a certain direction, but at the first print out it turns each even page in the direction opposite to each odd page. Thus I have first to go through the entire stack and turn evens and odds at one direction and only after this I turn the entire stack as suggested. Boy, I'm even having hard time to describe it now. I reported it as a bug and never since heard from them, as well as never since I tried to use manual duplex with my printer. Thanks for your suggestions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j0nmup$uck$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: help to choose right printer to buy
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:04:08 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:52:20PM +, Juan R. de Silva wrote: >> I'm looking to buy one of these B/W Laser printers: >> >> Samsung ML-2855ND or Brother HL-2270DW. >> >> I have no personal experience with printers of these manufacturers and >> have no idea how good their drivers/support are. > > Check them in the printer database which may be found here: > http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting Well, both of them listed as Perfectly Working, but submitted by user and not verified. The OS/distro and its version is not indicated. I've tried to use Download .ppd file link. It failed with "servers error" several times. It wasn't much in help, I'd say. > As a rule of thumb, I would advise against buying a printer which does > not support native printing of PostScript, PDF or PCL. Brother HL-2270DW - PCL6 Samsung ML-2855ND - PostScript3, PCL6, and PCL5e. > These are > guaranteed to work, and work well, without the need for special > vendor-specific drivers (you might need a PPD file to enable device- > specific features like duplexing and the like, but that's it) Samsung provides an executable installer but I read a .ppd file is burried deeply but can be extracted. Brother I'm not sure, yet > I've had good experiences with HP LaserJets I cannot stand HP. :-( I just do not like neither company nor their printers. > and currently have a Kyocera FS-C5025N which does native IPP to talk to > CUPS. I'll look at it, if it would be available at my place. Thanks for sharing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j0nbim$9i2$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: help to choose right printer to buy
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:52:20 -0400, Juan R. de Silva wrote: I'm looking to buy one of these B/W Laser printers: Samsung ML-2855ND or Brother HL-2270DW. I have no personal experience with printers of these manufacturers and have no idea how good their drivers/support are. I've never used a Samsung printer, but their support for phones, hard drives, and other electronics has been very good. Brother support is horrible. Their products used to be good, but now they're awful (just like Dell). Brother have a driver for the above particular printer. But on their "Evaluated Distributions" page lists only Debian 5.04 32 bit, while I'm using Debian 6.02 64 bit. As long as the kernel has dropped support for it, you should be okay. It also lists Ubuntu 10.04 both 32 and 64 bit. This is fine but would it work under the next release/s? Same as above. Ubuntu, however, is much more user friendly in the sense that it will download and install proprietary drivers as necessary. On my Debian machine, I compile my own drivers for my unsuported hardware, not hard at all if you don't mind searching the net for them. The Brother customer rep shocked me by not being able even to pronounce the word Linux, by not knowing what 32 bit is, and by asking at the end of conversation:"How have you named your OS? Is it a special OS, what is it?" This is exact quote. Again, Brother support is horrible. I wouldn't expect them to be engineers, but to at least have heard of Linux and know that is a kernel not an OS :) my priorities are: - reliability of the driver in terms of its availability and OS support after upgrade to the next OS version. - reliability of the printer itself - build-in duplex printing - cost effectiveness - I do not care much about wireless, but if it comes, it comes. :-) If you can suggest any better printer that I've picked up, please, do. I've had an HP LaserJet p1102w for almost two years now. I've used it with Lenny, then Squeeze, and now Wheezy with no problems. Even the wireless printing works. No duplexing, unless you count manual :) IMHO, HP has the best support for Linux when it comes to printers (http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html) HTH, Mike -- Michael Checca echo "complaints" > /dev/null -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.vy8vwwe44b8ft1@michael-laptop
Re: help to choose right printer to buy
On 26/07/11 23:04, Roger Leigh wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:52:20PM +, Juan R. de Silva wrote: I'm looking to buy one of these B/W Laser printers: Samsung ML-2855ND or Brother HL-2270DW. I have no personal experience with printers of these manufacturers and have no idea how good their drivers/support are. Check them in the printer database which may be found here: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting As a rule of thumb, I would advise against buying a printer which does not support native printing of PostScript, PDF or PCL. These are guaranteed to work, and work well, without the need for special vendor-specific drivers (you might need a PPD file to enable device- specific features like duplexing and the like, but that's it). If it doesn't support one of the above languages, it's most likely a "raster" device which requires the host to render the page image; this type of printer has numerous issues, including in many cases the inability to print a full page at high resolution and/or lose data due to timing issues and lack of sufficient memory to buffer an entire page. I've had good experiences with HP LaserJets and currently have a Kyocera FS-C5025N which does native IPP to talk to CUPS. I have a good experience with HP LaserJet P2055dn . Reviews can be read on amazon. hth, Jerome Regards, Roger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e2f2d7e.9040...@rezozer.net
Re: help to choose right printer to buy
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:52:20PM +, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > I'm looking to buy one of these B/W Laser printers: > > Samsung ML-2855ND or Brother HL-2270DW. > > I have no personal experience with printers of these manufacturers and > have no idea how good their drivers/support are. Check them in the printer database which may be found here: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting As a rule of thumb, I would advise against buying a printer which does not support native printing of PostScript, PDF or PCL. These are guaranteed to work, and work well, without the need for special vendor-specific drivers (you might need a PPD file to enable device- specific features like duplexing and the like, but that's it). If it doesn't support one of the above languages, it's most likely a "raster" device which requires the host to render the page image; this type of printer has numerous issues, including in many cases the inability to print a full page at high resolution and/or lose data due to timing issues and lack of sufficient memory to buffer an entire page. I've had good experiences with HP LaserJets and currently have a Kyocera FS-C5025N which does native IPP to talk to CUPS. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
