Re: his post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson 
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 12:02:06PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
| On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:16:49AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
| 
| > Who the hell cares about sheer numbers of users out there in
| > the wild? I sure as hell don't. If numbers had been important to me,
| > I would not have been wasting my time on Linux.
| 
| While I enjoyed the way this topic entered the list, I am not enjoying
| the personal attacks in this discussion.  I am one of the users you
| don't care for.  That is sad.

Manoj doesn't care about sheer numbers of users.  By
that he means that he won't drop support for the stuff you need just
because 500 more users will join debian.

Consider these premises :
you have an s390 on your desk.  (do they fit on desks? ;-))
Manoj has only x86 systems
releasing woody now with X 4.2 and KDE 3 (etc.) will bring 500 new
users on the debian "bandwagon".
woody isn't being released (in part) because s390 is now supported

Clearly if manoj is only interested in himself and/or the sheer number
of users, he would release woody now and ignore the fact that you need
s390 support.

Instead, as manoj said, he doesn't care for that and is glad to have
s390 support in Debian.  That's rather the opposite of not caring for
you.

HAND!
-D

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Re: his post is not off-topic

2002-06-04 Thread prover 
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- Original Message -
From: "Manoj Srivastava" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: his post is not off-topic


> >>"Johann" == Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>  Johann> On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:16:49AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>  >> Who the hell cares about sheer numbers of users out there in
>  >> the wild? I sure as hell don't. If numbers had been important to me,
>  >> I would not have been wasting my time on Linux.
>
>  Johann> While I enjoyed the way this topic entered the list, I am not
enjoying
>  Johann> the personal attacks in this discussion.  I am one of the users
you
>  Johann> don't care for.  That is sad.
>
> Before you take umbrage, perhaps you should consult people
>  more knowledgeable of the vagaries of English idiom? However, though
>  I did say before that I cared not for mere numbers, and that implied
>  that I would look out for the interests of people using arcane
>  architectures, despite their smaller numbers, now that you have sent
>  this message in, let me ask you this: Why on earth _should_ I care
>  for _you_? What have you done to make me decide to spend time helping
>  _you_ rather than sleeping at 3 am? Why should I make _your_ life
>  easier rather than working on something that eases my life, like,
>  say, working on money making software?
>
> What have you done to deserve my sweat, blood and tears?
>
> What's in it for me?
>
> manoj
>
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Re: his post is not off-topic

2002-06-04 Thread prover 
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME?
EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS.

CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT?

 THANK YOU.

- Original Message -
From: "Johann Spies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: his post is not off-topic


> On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:16:49AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
> > Who the hell cares about sheer numbers of users out there in
> > the wild? I sure as hell don't. If numbers had been important to me,
> > I would not have been wasting my time on Linux.
>
> While I enjoyed the way this topic entered the list, I am not enjoying
> the personal attacks in this discussion.  I am one of the users you
> don't care for.  That is sad.
>
> Johann
> --
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>
>  "But without faith it is impossible to please him; for
>   he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and
>   that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek
>   him."   Hebrews 11:6
>
>
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Re: his post is not off-topic

2002-06-04 Thread prover 
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]).

WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME?
EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS.

CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT?

 THANK YOU.

- Original Message -
From: "ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: his post is not off-topic


> On Tuesday 04 June 2002 03:02 am, Johann Spies wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:16:49AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > > Who the hell cares about sheer numbers of users out there in
> > > the wild? I sure as hell don't. If numbers had been important to me,
> > > I would not have been wasting my time on Linux.
> >
> > While I enjoyed the way this topic entered the list, I am not enjoying
> > the personal attacks in this discussion.  I am one of the users you
> > don't care for.  That is sad.
> >
>
> if you take the time to read that properly, it's clear that manoj is
> referring to "sheer numbers of users," which is quite a different thing.
>
> ben
>
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Re: his post is not off-topic

2002-06-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava 
>>"Johann" == Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Johann> On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:16:49AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 >> Who the hell cares about sheer numbers of users out there in
 >> the wild? I sure as hell don't. If numbers had been important to me,
 >> I would not have been wasting my time on Linux.

 Johann> While I enjoyed the way this topic entered the list, I am not enjoying
 Johann> the personal attacks in this discussion.  I am one of the users you
 Johann> don't care for.  That is sad.

Before you take umbrage, perhaps you should consult people
 more knowledgeable of the vagaries of English idiom? However, though
 I did say before that I cared not for mere numbers, and that implied
 that I would look out for the interests of people using arcane
 architectures, despite their smaller numbers, now that you have sent
 this message in, let me ask you this: Why on earth _should_ I care
 for _you_? What have you done to make me decide to spend time helping
 _you_ rather than sleeping at 3 am? Why should I make _your_ life
 easier rather than working on something that eases my life, like,
 say, working on money making software? 

What have you done to deserve my sweat, blood and tears?

What's in it for me?

manoj

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 before.
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Re: his post is not off-topic

2002-06-04 Thread ben 
On Tuesday 04 June 2002 03:02 am, Johann Spies wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:16:49AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > Who the hell cares about sheer numbers of users out there in
> > the wild? I sure as hell don't. If numbers had been important to me,
> > I would not have been wasting my time on Linux.
>
> While I enjoyed the way this topic entered the list, I am not enjoying
> the personal attacks in this discussion.  I am one of the users you
> don't care for.  That is sad.
>

if you take the time to read that properly, it's clear that manoj is 
referring to "sheer numbers of users," which is quite a different thing.

ben


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Re: his post is not off-topic

2002-06-04 Thread Johann Spies 
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:16:49AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

>   Who the hell cares about sheer numbers of users out there in
> the wild? I sure as hell don't. If numbers had been important to me,
> I would not have been wasting my time on Linux.

While I enjoyed the way this topic entered the list, I am not enjoying
the personal attacks in this discussion.  I am one of the users you
don't care for.  That is sad.

Johann
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  he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and 
  that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek 
  him."   Hebrews 11:6 


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