Re: kernel versions in releases.

2007-01-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

jdaues wrote:
Currently, I am using Debian Etch with kernel version 2.6.18-3-686. This 
kernel has a bug that affects me in a rather annoying manner. This bug 
is fixed in 2.6.20. Since etch is frozen, I am assuming that 2.6.20 will 
not be in the final release of etch, correct?  Can one estimate when 
2.6.20 will make it into a debian release?





what's the bug?

Hugo


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Re: kernel versions in releases.

2007-01-20 Thread jdaues

what's the bug?

The gdb (gnome debugger) does not work correctly.
Describe here:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/74691
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=513751


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Re: kernel versions in releases.

2007-01-19 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 11:53:08AM -0700, jdaues wrote:
 Currently, I am using Debian Etch with kernel version 2.6.18-3-686. This 
 kernel has a bug that affects me in a rather annoying manner. This bug 
 is fixed in 2.6.20. Since etch is frozen, I am assuming that 2.6.20 will 
 not be in the final release of etch, correct?  Can one estimate when 
 2.6.20 will make it into a debian release?
 
Probably never.  The release of Lenny will likely have a higher numbered
kernel.  Of course, you can always get the vanilla kernel source and
build one yourself using kernel-package.  For bonus points, you can
identify the fix and create a patch to the current Debian kernel source
and submit it to the kernel team to see if it can be included.  Of
course, the bug would need to be rather serious for them consider such a
thing this late in the release cycle.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: kernel versions in releases.

2007-01-19 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 02:36:46PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 11:53:08AM -0700, jdaues wrote:
  Currently, I am using Debian Etch with kernel version 2.6.18-3-686. This 
  kernel has a bug that affects me in a rather annoying manner. This bug 
  is fixed in 2.6.20. Since etch is frozen, I am assuming that 2.6.20 will 
  not be in the final release of etch, correct?  Can one estimate when 
  2.6.20 will make it into a debian release?
  
 Probably never.  The release of Lenny will likely have a higher numbered
 kernel.  Of course, you can always get the vanilla kernel source and
 build one yourself using kernel-package.  For bonus points, you can
 identify the fix and create a patch to the current Debian kernel source
 and submit it to the kernel team to see if it can be included.  Of
 course, the bug would need to be rather serious for them consider such a
 thing this late in the release cycle.
 
 
Don't new kernel versions come out after release, with the updates?
Also, once Etch is stable, before Lenny is stable, won't a 2.6.20 end up
in testing at some point?  

Doug.


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RE: kernel versions in releases.

2007-01-19 Thread Kevin Ross
 -Original Message-
 From: Douglas Allan Tutty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:40 PM
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: kernel versions in releases.
 
 On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 02:36:46PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
  On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 11:53:08AM -0700, jdaues wrote:
   Currently, I am using Debian Etch with kernel version 
 2.6.18-3-686. This 
   kernel has a bug that affects me in a rather annoying 
 manner. This bug 
   is fixed in 2.6.20. Since etch is frozen, I am assuming 
 that 2.6.20 will 
   not be in the final release of etch, correct?  Can one 
 estimate when 
   2.6.20 will make it into a debian release?
   
  Probably never.  The release of Lenny will likely have a 
 higher numbered
  kernel.  Of course, you can always get the vanilla kernel source and
  build one yourself using kernel-package.  For bonus points, you can
  identify the fix and create a patch to the current Debian 
 kernel source
  and submit it to the kernel team to see if it can be included.  Of
  course, the bug would need to be rather serious for them 
 consider such a
  thing this late in the release cycle.
  
  
 Don't new kernel versions come out after release, with the updates?
 Also, once Etch is stable, before Lenny is stable, won't a 
 2.6.20 end up
 in testing at some point?  
 
 Doug.

One can always grab .debs for the latest kernel from sid or experimental,
or elsewhere.  Quoting from the debian-devel-annouce mailing list:

 As mentioned above, we are tracking upstream closely.  Usually, the latest
 upstream release reaches unstable almost on the day of its release.
 Experimental acts as staging area, where the -rcX kernels are built.  If
 you want to be on the cutting edge, Bastian Blank provides daily builds
 out of the debian-kernel repository [1].
 
 [1] deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel trunk main


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Re: kernel versions in releases.

2007-01-19 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 07:39:51PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
  
 Don't new kernel versions come out after release, with the updates?
 Also, once Etch is stable, before Lenny is stable, won't a 2.6.20 end up
 in testing at some point?  
 
Yes.  But the original question was a request for an estimation of
when 2.6.20 would make it into a Debian release.  Thus, the appropriate
reply is probably never.  At some point, 2.6.20 should end up in
unstable/testing, but there is no guarantee as 2.6.21 might come out by
the time of release or shortly thereafter.  In which case, the kernel
team might not want to waste their time on 2.6.20 and move straight to
2.6.21.

Regards,

-Roberto

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