Re: motherboard suggestions OT: ECC memory
On Sat, May 05, 2001, Allan Wind wrote: > On 2001-05-04 15:21:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Note, though, that I've heard Athlon > > doesn't play well with ECC, though it remains to be seen if this will > > be improved for the Dual Athlons (as it should be); again, hopefully, > > others can add more. > > Asus K7V, Athlon @ 800 MHz w/ 256 MB ECC running just fine here (had > to flash upgrade BIOS to get ECC support though). > > > /Allan Allan, Glad to hear it! I'm going the Athlon route (hopefully dual) myself soon, and want to get PC2100 ECC memory with it, so I'm glad to know you've made it work. My above comment was just a repetition of something that I'd read on one of the hardware review sites; hopefully, I made it sufficiently clear that I could have been wrong, as it turned out I was. Incidentally, what I really meant by my comment was that I had read that certain chipsets that support Athlons due not play well with ECC. I wonder if this is still possibly true, and your Asus is just an example of a better motherboard which uses a more-competently engineered chipset. Let's see... What are the main chipsets that support Athlon? AMD 760, Via kt133, Ali Magick (?or something), Sis (something I think). Anyone know if there is anything behind what I remember reading with one of these chipsets? Or maybe I'm just completely mistaken... Anyway, take care and thanks for sharing your Athlon success with me. -Daniel -- Daniel A. Freedman Laboratory for Atomic and Solid State Physics Department of Physics Cornell University
Re: motherboard suggestions OT: ECC memory
On 2001-05-04 15:21:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Note, though, that I've heard Athlon > doesn't play well with ECC, though it remains to be seen if this will > be improved for the Dual Athlons (as it should be); again, hopefully, > others can add more. Asus K7V, Athlon @ 800 MHz w/ 256 MB ECC running just fine here (had to flash upgrade BIOS to get ECC support though). /Allan -- Allan M. Wind email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.O. Box 2022 finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GPG/PGP) Woburn, MA 01888-0022 USA pgpGY81eitoI1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: motherboard suggestions OT: ECC memory
> ECC (Error Correction Code) has an additional 9th bit for every 8 data > bits to catch and correct certain errors... That's just parity. With only one extra bit you can detect single bit errors, but you can't correct them. > Note, though, that I've heard Athlon doesn't play well with ECC,... That seems rather unlikely, since ECC is handled entirely in hardware in the memory subsystem. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: motherboard suggestions OT: ECC memory
On Fri, May 04, 2001, William Leese wrote: > > I need to replace a dual PIII-600MHz motherboard, which apparently got > > fried. I'd appreciate any suggestions for a good, Linux friendly one. > > Preferably something which can make use of ECC memory, which the dead > > one (i840 chipset) couldn't. > > one of those things i was going to look into put never got around to. whats > the difference between SDRAM and ECC SDRAM? > Hi, ECC (Error Correction Code) has an additional 9th bit for every 8 data bits to catch and correct certain errors (though I've heard it is designed more to catch the relatively rare stray bit flip errors, like from passing cosmic rays, than the nasty errors that result from dying memory, but I don't know the full story). So normal SDRAM is for example 32Mx64 (for 256Mb module), while ECC SDRAM is 32Mx72 (for same 256Mb with ECC capabilities). In many cases you can get ECC capabilities for maybe $8-10 more for a 256Mb module, in which case I think it's a good investment. Note, though, that I've heard Athlon doesn't play well with ECC, though it remains to be seen if this will be improved for the Dual Athlons (as it should be); again, hopefully, others can add more. Hope this helps and take care, Daniel -- Daniel A. Freedman Laboratory for Atomic and Solid State Physics Department of Physics Cornell University
Re: motherboard suggestions OT: ECC memory
> I need to replace a dual PIII-600MHz motherboard, which apparently got > fried. I'd appreciate any suggestions for a good, Linux friendly one. > Preferably something which can make use of ECC memory, which the dead > one (i840 chipset) couldn't. one of those things i was going to look into put never got around to. whats the difference between SDRAM and ECC SDRAM?