Re: mua and mail service provider statistics

2011-05-03 Thread Abhishek Dasgupta 
Chris Davies wrote:
> Rob Owens  wrote:
> > I think Mutt is awesome for handling mailing lists.  I always view in
> > thread mode, and I use Ctrl-d to delete entire threads that don't
> > interest me.  I can delete the entire thread in the time it takes me to
> > read the subject line.
> 
> I've always tended to treat mailing lists as newsgroups. So I drop them
> into my local news subsystem and read them with tin. Thread killing is
> "permanent" (i.e. if you kill a thread then it stays dead no matter how
> many new messages arrive for it). I suspect that this approach and mutt
> give similar results.
> 

Actually not. I use mutt and there is no way to permanently kill a
thread.

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Re: mua and mail service provider statistics

2011-05-03 Thread Chris Davies 
Rob Owens  wrote:
> I think Mutt is awesome for handling mailing lists.  I always view in
> thread mode, and I use Ctrl-d to delete entire threads that don't
> interest me.  I can delete the entire thread in the time it takes me to
> read the subject line.

I've always tended to treat mailing lists as newsgroups. So I drop them
into my local news subsystem and read them with tin. Thread killing is
"permanent" (i.e. if you kill a thread then it stays dead no matter how
many new messages arrive for it). I suspect that this approach and mutt
give similar results.

Chris


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Re: mua and mail service provider statistics

2011-05-01 Thread Chen Wei 
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:22:06AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> 
> Thanks for doing this.
u are welcome :)

> 
> The trouble with GMail is that it is suboptimal when it comes to a
> couple of things when compared to Mutt, _for me_:
> 
> - It's threading is linear, which is difficult to follow for long and
>   complex evolving threads.
> - I prefer console goodness over a web based approach.
> - GMail encourages top posting.
> 
> But I see the merit in using GMail; it's simple, easy and powerful to
> use. Just that it's not for me.
> 
> Kumar
> -- 
once upon a time hotmail was so hot and yahoo mail was so cool...

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Re: mua and mail service provider statistics

2011-04-13 Thread Rob Owens 
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:05:43PM +0800, Chen Wei wrote:
> hi list,
> 
> as a first time debian-user subscriber, I feel been buried alive by
> incoming emails, though I heard there are some monster maillists, 
> linux kernel maillist for example, are carrying even heavier traffic.
> Wondering how to manage so many emails, out of curiosity, I did a 
> statistics on choice of mail client and email service, based on 1494
> messages received since subscribed to this list. Here is what I found.
> 
I think Mutt is awesome for handling mailing lists.  I always view in
thread mode, and I use Ctrl-d to delete entire threads that don't
interest me.  I can delete the entire thread in the time it takes me to
read the subject line.

-Rob


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Re: mua and mail service provider statistics

2011-04-13 Thread Jochen Schulz 
Slicky Johnson:
> 
> I simply mark threads ignored and I don't seen anymore mails regarding
> that topic. I currently use claws-mail, and I see you're using mutt.
> If I remember correctly you should easily be able to mark a thread as
> ignored.

Unfortunately, this isn't the case. You can mark (sub-)threads as read,
but after that mutt will happily present new mails in the same thread to
you.

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Re: mua and mail service provider statistics

2011-04-13 Thread Kumar Appaiah 
Dear Chen,

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:05:43PM +0800, Chen Wei wrote:
> as a first time debian-user subscriber, I feel been buried alive by
> incoming emails, though I heard there are some monster maillists, 
> linux kernel maillist for example, are carrying even heavier traffic.
> Wondering how to manage so many emails, out of curiosity, I did a 
> statistics on choice of mail client and email service, based on 1494
> messages received since subscribed to this list. Here is what I found.

Thanks for doing this.

> The short story is, GMAIL prevail.

The trouble with GMail is that it is suboptimal when it comes to a
couple of things when compared to Mutt, _for me_:

- It's threading is linear, which is difficult to follow for long and
  complex evolving threads.
- I prefer console goodness over a web based approach.
- GMail encourages top posting.

But I see the merit in using GMail; it's simple, easy and powerful to
use. Just that it's not for me.

Kumar
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Re: mua and mail service provider statistics

2011-04-13 Thread Slicky Johnson 
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:05:43 +0800
Chen Wei  wrote:

> hi list,
> 
> as a first time debian-user subscriber, I feel been buried alive by
> incoming emails, though I heard there are some monster maillists, 
> linux kernel maillist for example, are carrying even heavier traffic.
> Wondering how to manage so many emails, out of curiosity, I did a 
> statistics on choice of mail client and email service, based on 1494
> messages received since subscribed to this list. Here is what I found.
> 

I simply mark threads ignored and I don't seen anymore mails regarding
that topic. I currently use claws-mail, and I see you're using mutt.
If I remember correctly you should easily be able to mark a thread as
ignored. That will greatly reduce the number of mails, you'll only see
new threads.




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Re: mua and mail service provider statistics

2011-04-13 Thread Lisi 
On Wednesday 13 April 2011 14:05:43 Chen Wei wrote:
> out of curiosity, I did a
> statistics on choice of mail client and email service, based on 1494
> messages received since subscribed to this list. Here is what I found.
>
> TOP20
> MUA | email provider
> |-
> Gmail  83 25.7% | gmail.com 110 34.1% |
> Mozilla75 23.2% | debian.org  8  2.5% |
> Mutt   54 16.7% | gmx.de  4  1.2% |
> Unknown20  6.2% | yahoo.com   3  0.9% |
> KMail  15  4.6% | web.de  3  0.9% |
[snip]
> Total Messages: 1494
> Total Users: 323
>
> The short story is, GMAIL prevail.

I hope that I am down against KMail, and not GMail. ;-)

Lisi


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