Re: nepomukuser

2011-02-21 Thread Paul Cartwright

On 02/21/2011 12:14 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote:

GNOME and Nepomuk.
 

Tracker is like Strigi+Nepomuk: the metadata store and access layer
is in the same application as the indexing tool. The tracker indexer
could , in theory, be used to feed data to Nepomuk - they both use
the ontologies that came out of the Nepomuk project (of which
Nepomuk-KDE is just an implementation) .  Xesam was at one
time going to be the cross-desktop search interface, so user apps
wouldn't need to care if they searched Tracker or Nepomuk, but
it seems to have died (they also had ontologies competing with
Nepomuk's, but that was dropped even earlier).

   

is this what you are talking about tracker:
ii  libtracker-client-0.8-0
0.8.17-1 metadata database, indexer and 
search tool - library
ii  libtrackerclient0  
0.6.6-2  metadata database, indexer and 
search tool - library


I don't have the gui or any other tracker apps installed. not that I 
want them.. I always use:

find / -name blah -print

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Re: nepomukuser

2011-02-21 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 03:15, Paul Cartwright deb...@pcartwright.com wrote:
 On 02/21/2011 12:14 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote:

 GNOME and Nepomuk.


 Tracker is like Strigi+Nepomuk: the metadata store and access layer
 is in the same application as the indexing tool. The tracker indexer
 could , in theory, be used to feed data to Nepomuk - they both use
 the ontologies that came out of the Nepomuk project (of which
 Nepomuk-KDE is just an implementation) .  Xesam was at one
 time going to be the cross-desktop search interface, so user apps
 wouldn't need to care if they searched Tracker or Nepomuk, but
 it seems to have died (they also had ontologies competing with
 Nepomuk's, but that was dropped even earlier).



 is this what you are talking about tracker:
 ii  libtracker-client-0.8-0                                0.8.17-1
                     metadata database, indexer and search tool - library
 ii  libtrackerclient0                                      0.6.6-2
                    metadata database, indexer and search tool - library

Yeah, that's part of it. Debian is way behind, still on 0.8, when 0.10 is
almost ready.

 I don't have the gui or any other tracker apps installed. not that I want
 them.. I always use:
 find / -name blah -print

Well, I don't use Tracker much either, but I want to write a music
player that uses it instead of building it's own DB. Find is great for
a lot of things, and all some people need, but Tracker can do things
find never dreamed of.


Cheers,
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Re: nepomukuser

2011-02-20 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:56:39 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:

 what it is, do I need it, and why are there som many processes running?

(...)

 pbc  29968 1  0 Feb19 ?00:00:18 /usr/bin/nepomukserver
 
 running squeeze  gnome

And KDE, I guess.

Nepomuk is kinda KDE4 indexing service and it is started by default when 
you login into your KDE4 session. It can be disabled but AFAIK, it 
shouldn't be loading (unless you told so) inside a GNOME session.

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Re: nepomukuser

2011-02-20 Thread Camaleón
El 2011-02-20 a las 07:50 -0500, Paul Cartwright escribió:

(back to list)

 On 02/20/2011 07:11 AM, Camaleón wrote:
 Nepomuk is kinda KDE4 indexing service and it is started by default when
 you login into your KDE4 session. It can be disabled but AFAIK, it
 shouldn't be loading (unless you told so) inside a GNOME session.


 in gnome menu, System-Preferences-System Settings-Advanced-Desktop search

I can't see that menu :-?

 Nepomuk Semantic Desktop

 enable Nepomuk Semantic Desktop was checked.

 as it was also on my wifes KDE desktop.

You can disable then, should you don't need it. 

I thought GNOME was using Tracker as their default indexing search 
engine, dunno what is the current level of integration (if any) between 
GNOME and Nepomuk.

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Re: nepomukuser

2011-02-20 Thread Paul Cartwright

On 02/20/2011 08:06 AM, Camaleón wrote:


   

  in gnome menu, System-Preferences-System Settings-Advanced-Desktop search
 

I can't see that menu :-?

   

gnome menu
System
preferences
system settings
click the advanced tab
click on desktop search

  Nepomuk Semantic Desktop

  enable Nepomuk Semantic Desktop was checked.

  as it was also on my wifes KDE desktop.
 

You can disable then, should you don't need it.

I thought GNOME was using Tracker as their default indexing search
engine, dunno what is the current level of integration (if any) between
GNOME and Nepomuk



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Re: nepomukuser

2011-02-20 Thread Paul Cartwright

On 02/20/2011 08:47 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

  enable Nepomuk Semantic Desktop was checked.

  as it was also on my wifes KDE desktop.

You can disable then, should you don't need it.

I thought GNOME was using Tracker as their default indexing search
engine, dunno what is the current level of integration (if any) between
GNOME and Nepomuk 


remember, I also have trinity-KDE3.5 installed.. and run kdm.

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Re: nepomukuser

2011-02-20 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:47:20 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:

 On 02/20/2011 08:06 AM, Camaleón wrote:

   in gnome menu, System-Preferences-System Settings-Advanced-Desktop
   search
  
 I can't see that menu :-?


 gnome menu
 System
 preferences
 system settings
 click the advanced tab
 click on desktop search

I don't have such a menu entry (system settings) in a pure GNOME 
environment. It sound to me like a KDE setting, could it be?

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Re: nepomukuser

2011-02-20 Thread Paul Cartwright

On 02/20/2011 09:47 AM, Camaleón wrote:

I can't see that menu :-?


   

  gnome menu
  System
  preferences
  system settings
  click the advanced tab
  click on desktop search
 

I don't have such a menu entry (system settings) in a pure GNOME
environment. It sound to me like a KDE setting, could it be?

Greetings,
   
that IS a possibility.. I looked in Google.. already our thread from 
this morning is google-searchable!


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Re: nepomukuser

2011-02-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 06:47, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:47:20 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:

 On 02/20/2011 08:06 AM, Camaleón wrote:

   in gnome menu, System-Preferences-System Settings-Advanced-Desktop
   search

 I can't see that menu :-?


 gnome menu
 System
 preferences
 system settings
 click the advanced tab
 click on desktop search

 I don't have such a menu entry (system settings) in a pure GNOME
 environment. It sound to me like a KDE setting, could it be?

Yes, System Settings is KDE's Control Panel.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 05:06, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought GNOME was using Tracker as their default indexing search
 engine, dunno what is the current level of integration (if any) between
 GNOME and Nepomuk.

Tracker is like Strigi+Nepomuk: the metadata store and access layer
is in the same application as the indexing tool. The tracker indexer
could , in theory, be used to feed data to Nepomuk - they both use
the ontologies that came out of the Nepomuk project (of which
Nepomuk-KDE is just an implementation) .  Xesam was at one
time going to be the cross-desktop search interface, so user apps
wouldn't need to care if they searched Tracker or Nepomuk, but
it seems to have died (they also had ontologies competing with
Nepomuk's, but that was dropped even earlier).


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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