Re: FW: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 09:25:21AM -0800, Sreelal Chandrasenan wrote: Isn't this the same ID10T that had all his email forwarded to the list a few days ago? -- When you say that you agree to a thing in principle, you mean that you have not the slightest intention of carrying it out in practice. -- Otto Von Bismarck -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
Oops, my bad, I was reading old messages. -- When you say that you agree to a thing in principle, you mean that you have not the slightest intention of carrying it out in practice. -- Otto Von Bismarck -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
On Sunday 14 December 2003 07:31 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 at 15:54 GMT, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) penned: On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 14:08:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely usable, but google seems to disagree. http://partners.adobe.com/asn/tech/pdf/specifications.jsp has e.g. the PDF Reference, Fourth Edition, Version 1.5 (1172 pages). xpdf seems to handle the Acrobat 5 version of it just fine. Thank you! I don't think I remembered to say Thank you, myself, Ray. So, thank you for the link! It appears that I stand corrected on the PDF spec issue. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
-Original Message- From: Terry Hancock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:27 AM To: debian users Subject: Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry) On Sunday 14 December 2003 07:31 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 at 15:54 GMT, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) penned: On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 14:08:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely usable, but google seems to disagree. http://partners.adobe.com/asn/tech/pdf/specifications.jsp has e.g. the PDF Reference, Fourth Edition, Version 1.5 (1172 pages). xpdf seems to handle the Acrobat 5 version of it just fine. Thank you! I don't think I remembered to say Thank you, myself, Ray. So, thank you for the link! It appears that I stand corrected on the PDF spec issue. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ooh! debian jewelry
On Thursday, December 11, 2003, at 12:43 AM, ScruLoose wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 05:37:01PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I just found this ... and want it ... bad. Thought some of you might find it of interest: http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/ That's pretty sweet. Geek chic to a whole new level! ...for a chic geek! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 14:08:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely usable, but google seems to disagree. Google isn't quite the all-seeing eye yet. http://partners.adobe.com/asn/tech/pdf/specifications.jsp has e.g. the PDF Reference, Fourth Edition, Version 1.5 (1172 pages). xpdf seems to handle the Acrobat 5 version of it just fine. HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
On Sunday 14 December 2003 09:54 am, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: http://partners.adobe.com/asn/tech/pdf/specifications.jsp has e.g. the PDF Reference, Fourth Edition, Version 1.5 (1172 pages). xpdf seems to handle the Acrobat 5 version of it just fine. Hmm. Yes, that's very interesting. I saved a copy, although Adobe apparently thinks that was illegal of me: No part of this publication (whether in hardcopy or electronic form) may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form, or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording or otherwise, without the prior written permission of Adobe Systems Incorporated. Please note that the content in this guide is protected under copyright law even if it is not distributed with software that includes an end user license agreement. That's cute wording, isn't it? Doesn't that pretty much debar saving the file on my hard drive? Surely that's a retrieval system? Which says they're trying to deny certain fair use rights, as I read it. In any case, this may be one reason it's so hard to find, since no one is legally allowed to mirror it. I accessed this without registering because you provided a deep-link, but normally, Adobe makes you go through a forms process to get this far, AFAICT. That's probably why Google can't find it, too. So, yeah, it's there. And that's better than I thought. But it still doesn't quite give me warm-fuzzies. ;-) Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 12:56:45 -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: I accessed this without registering because you provided a deep-link, but normally, Adobe makes you go through a forms process to get this far, AFAICT. Nope. I very vaguely recalled it being available on developer.adobe.com (which I've never accessed from the machine I'm currently on). Using that as a URL, I get some silly select your region page which has a top bar that includes Products Technology. Follow that, select Adobe PDF reference manual (under Core technologies) et voila. Ray -- Signs of world domination: Tonight on Celebrity Deathmatch: Tux takes on the BSD daemon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:50:32 -0600, Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I attended media production classes for staff at Caltech in which making maximum use of these PDF 5 features was *really* pushed hard (sometime last year). No doubt they had also received some serious direct marketing, and were just passing it on. ..you make Caltech sound like they teach dancing to shills. (On the other hand, they also have a program pushing a TeX + XML pipeline for publishing theses and dissertations, which I think is a move in the right direction). -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 at 15:54 GMT, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) penned: On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 14:08:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely usable, but google seems to disagree. Google isn't quite the all-seeing eye yet. http://partners.adobe.com/asn/tech/pdf/specifications.jsp has e.g. the PDF Reference, Fourth Edition, Version 1.5 (1172 pages). xpdf seems to handle the Acrobat 5 version of it just fine. HTH, Ray Thank you! -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
Monique posts: I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely usable, but google seems to disagree Should the PDF format be used and recommended by governments? The Govt. of India is calling for opinions and this link is interesting http://gnu.org.in/philosophy/mitrules.html -- ragOO http://puggy.symonds.net/~fsug-kochi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ooh! debian jewelry
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:08:45 +, Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 01:30:35AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html Ah, some neat stuff, and much more budget-friendly. But tell me, does anyone ever actually wear cufflinks? I mean, other than to a funeral, where probably little penguins wouldn't be greatly appreciated by the other mourners. I do from time to time. I had to regretfully give up on wearing a cufflinked shirt to a party recently because I couldn't find either of my two pairs of cufflinks at short notice (yeah, I'm disorganized). Dress sense might be a bit different in the UK from that in the US, though. Speaking as an expat Welshman who emigrated from London, yes, it is a little different. I prefer to wear cufflinks; unfortunately, single-cuffed shirts in the US do not generally have the extra buttonhole by the cuff button, so, if one wants to wear cufflinks, one has to wear double-cuffed shirts. -- paul Do the little things (Gwnewch y pethau bychain) St. David (Dewi Sant) of Wales, last sermon, Sunday 27th February 589 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ooh! debian jewelry
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 at 03:00 GMT, Greg Madden penned: For a do-it yourself (sort-of) Debian Swirl go to Kinko's (print shop). They do cut vinyl, fairly cheep, bring in a .esp logo from http:// debian.org/logos/. I put one on my work van :) Ooh. I was wondering where to find logos. Why eps as opposed to pdf or whatever? -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ooh! debian jewelry
On Saturday 13 December 2003 12:46 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 at 03:00 GMT, Greg Madden penned: http://debian.org/logos/ Ooh. I was wondering where to find logos. Why eps as opposed to pdf or whatever? Well, for one reason, postscript is an older and more widespread standard in the printing field (whereas PDF is ostensibly only for electronic distribution). Any printshop running whatever OS on their computers will have an easier time reading and handling encapsulated postscript. That would be the printshop's reason. Furthermore, PDF isn't really an open data format, just a closed one that turned out to be easier to crack than .doc files. Adobe isn't any nicer about sharing their standards than Microsoft is. The fact that we have good Linux readers for PDF has more to do with slow releases of new versions of the standard, and more widespread use (especially in the academic community), than with any intrinsic quality. But the latest versions (5.x?) still don't seem to be accessible with open source tools. OTOH, postscript has been around for so long that it is definitely a well-understood standard (there are published manuals explaining the language in detail). I'm not sure whether it was intended to be open or not, but it is in effect, at least. And that would probably be Debian's reason. ;-) Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ooh! debian jewelry
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 02:36:10PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: } On Saturday 13 December 2003 12:46 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: } On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 at 03:00 GMT, Greg Madden penned: } http://debian.org/logos/ } Ooh. I was wondering where to find logos. } } Why eps as opposed to pdf or whatever? [...] } Furthermore, PDF isn't really an open data format, just a } closed one that turned out to be easier to crack than .doc files. } Adobe isn't any nicer about sharing their standards than } Microsoft is. The fact that we have good Linux readers for } PDF has more to do with slow releases of new versions of } the standard, and more widespread use (especially in the } academic community), than with any intrinsic quality. But } the latest versions (5.x?) still don't seem to be accessible } with open source tools. } } OTOH, postscript has been around for so long that it is definitely } a well-understood standard (there are published manuals } explaining the language in detail). I'm not sure whether it was } intended to be open or not, but it is in effect, at least. } } And that would probably be Debian's reason. ;-) That is entirely FUD. PDF is no more nor less open than PostScript. Both PostScript and PDF are industry standards developed, promoted, and documented by Adobe. A Google search for pdf specification turns up the Adobe PDF specification, available free from Adobe, within the first two links. Similarly, a google search for postscript language reference turns up the PostScript specification available free from Adobe as the first link. } Cheers, } Terry --Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 at 20:36 GMT, Terry Hancock penned: Furthermore, PDF isn't really an open data format, just a closed one that turned out to be easier to crack than .doc files. Adobe isn't any nicer about sharing their standards than Microsoft is. The fact that we have good Linux readers for PDF has more to do with slow releases of new versions of the standard, and more widespread use (especially in the academic community), than with any intrinsic quality. But the latest versions (5.x?) still don't seem to be accessible with open source tools. Oops. Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely usable, but google seems to disagree. It references some old links from the adobe site, but they seem to have been removed. -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ooh! debian jewelry
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 at 21:00 GMT, Gregory Seidman penned: That is entirely FUD. PDF is no more nor less open than PostScript. Both PostScript and PDF are industry standards developed, promoted, and documented by Adobe. A Google search for pdf specification turns up the Adobe PDF specification, available free from Adobe, within the first two links. Similarly, a google search for postscript language reference turns up the PostScript specification available free from Adobe as the first link. Did you try following that pdf spec link? I did, and it was broken. -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
On Saturday 13 December 2003 03:08 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Oops. Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely usable, but google seems to disagree. It references some old links from the adobe site, but they seem to have been removed. PDF 5.x is supposed to contain the same document encryption technology that everyone gets so steamed about MS doing with the DOC format. There are good reasons for distrusting that. It would be conceivable to call PDF 4 an open standard, since Ghostscript can already handle it. But we really ought to make a distinction, since the newer versions are incompatible. This is equally true of DOC format, too, though. We *could* adopt some prior version of it as a standard, seeing as several open word processors can handle them already. I'd rather see something like the OASIS standard http://lwn.net/Articles/16043/ work, though. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:08:07PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: This is equally true of DOC format, too, though. We *could* adopt some prior version of it as a standard, seeing as several open word processors can handle them already. Many PDFs I get don't display correctly in gv. The Calorie-info pdf from KrispyKreme. Try the Rebate form for FluMist. A few others. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:08:07PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: It would be conceivable to call PDF 4 an open standard, since Ghostscript can already handle it. But we really ought to make a distinction, since the newer versions are incompatible. Or, I could even quote the right paragraph. [repost w/ correct quote] Many PDFs I get don't display correctly in gv. The Calorie-info pdf from KrispyKreme. Try the Rebate form for FluMist. A few others. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
On Saturday 13 December 2003 10:11 pm, Nunya wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:08:07PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: It would be conceivable to call PDF 4 an open standard, since Ghostscript can already handle it. But we really ought to make a distinction, since the newer versions are incompatible. Many PDFs I get don't display correctly in gv. Yes. I have the same problem. I'm not sure whether this means they 1) meet the later standard, 2) are non-compliant with the standard as published (but are compatible with the de-facto it looks okay in acroread standard), or if the problem is actually 3) bugs in GV making it not meet the standard it was written to. I'm inclined to think it's mostly the #1. PDF has evolved, and acroread 5.x supports a lot of bells and whistles that I know GV is not prepared for. I attended media production classes for staff at Caltech in which making maximum use of these PDF 5 features was *really* pushed hard (sometime last year). No doubt they had also received some serious direct marketing, and were just passing it on. (On the other hand, they also have a program pushing a TeX + XML pipeline for publishing theses and dissertations, which I think is a move in the right direction). Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ooh! debian jewelry
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html Ah, some neat stuff, and much more budget-friendly. But tell me, does anyone ever actually wear cufflinks? I mean, other than to a funeral, where probably little penguins wouldn't be greatly appreciated by the other mourners. I'm going to be placing my first order with them later this month (after I do a few more auctions and refill the coffers). I'm planning on ordering a sheet of the Linux Inside Case Badges, plus a couple Tux lapel pins and Tux keychains. They have some stuff there with the Debian logo as well, but I prefer the penguin myself, though I may eventually order a sheet of Debian case badges too. No reason not to have more than 1 badge on a computer afterall. :D I adore the Debian swirl. I'm planning on getting a ski helmet in the next couple of weeks (hoping to get it for Christmas after some extensive and explicit hinting), and when I do, I'm going to find a nice big swirl sticker and slap that baby on the helmet. Mmm, raspberry swirl! Delicious! -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ooh! debian jewelry
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 02:30, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html Ah, some neat stuff, and much more budget-friendly. But tell me, does anyone ever actually wear cufflinks? I mean, other than to a funeral, where probably little penguins wouldn't be greatly appreciated by the other mourners. Cufflinks have actually been making a comeback in the last few years. I bought a cufflink-friendly dress shirt (i.e. cuffs that fold back) about a year ago and it's been my favorite shirt ever since. I adore the Debian swirl. I'm planning on getting a ski helmet in the next couple of weeks (hoping to get it for Christmas after some extensive and explicit hinting), and when I do, I'm going to find a nice big swirl sticker and slap that baby on the helmet. Mmm, raspberry swirl! Delicious! If, next time I go skiing, I see someone wearing a ski helmet with a Debian swirl on the side of, I'll be sure to say hi. :) (Assuming I can still form coherent sentences after a full day of wiping out repeatedly... :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: ooh! debian jewelry
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 01:30:35AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html Ah, some neat stuff, and much more budget-friendly. But tell me, does anyone ever actually wear cufflinks? I mean, other than to a funeral, where probably little penguins wouldn't be greatly appreciated by the other mourners. I do from time to time. I had to regretfully give up on wearing a cufflinked shirt to a party recently because I couldn't find either of my two pairs of cufflinks at short notice (yeah, I'm disorganized). Dress sense might be a bit different in the UK from that in the US, though. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ooh! debian jewelry
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 05:08, Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 01:30:35AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html Ah, some neat stuff, and much more budget-friendly. But tell me, does anyone ever actually wear cufflinks? I mean, other than to a funeral, where probably little penguins wouldn't be greatly appreciated by the other mourners. I do from time to time. I had to regretfully give up on wearing a cufflinked shirt to a party recently because I couldn't find either of my two pairs of cufflinks at short notice (yeah, I'm disorganized). Dress sense might be a bit different in the UK from that in the US, though. I have elastic cufflinks with wrapped cord as the outside that I always keep on my cufflink shirts. If I can't find my 'real' cufflinks, I just leave those in and go like that. They're solid black so they still look good, but they're about $2 (US) a piece so I can afford to have a set for each of my shirts. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: ooh! debian jewelry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 10 December 2003 11:30 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.h tml Ah, some neat stuff, and much more budget-friendly. But tell me, does anyone ever actually wear cufflinks? I mean, other than to a funeral, where probably little penguins wouldn't be greatly appreciated by the other mourners. snip I adore the Debian swirl. I'm planning on getting a ski helmet in the next couple of weeks (hoping to get it for Christmas after some extensive and explicit hinting), and when I do, I'm going to find a nice big swirl sticker and slap that baby on the helmet. Mmm, raspberry swirl! Delicious! -- monique For a do-it yourself (sort-of) Debian Swirl go to Kinko's (print shop). They do cut vinyl, fairly cheep, bring in a .esp logo from http:// debian.org/logos/. I put one on my work van :) - -- Greg Madden Debian GNU/Linux -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/2S9Vk7rtxKWZzGsRAoxOAJ9UnRfQrRQYukyrp2wamscqmA7VSACffs22 Vhe2FJ8H39fgqKfucHaCFZ0= =yIbn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ooh! debian jewelry
On 10 Dec 2003 at 17:37, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I just found this ... and want it ... bad. Thought some of you might find it of interest: http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/ -- monique That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html I'm going to be placing my first order with them later this month (after I do a few more auctions and refill the coffers). I'm planning on ordering a sheet of the Linux Inside Case Badges, plus a couple Tux lapel pins and Tux keychains. They have some stuff there with the Debian logo as well, but I prefer the penguin myself, though I may eventually order a sheet of Debian case badges too. No reason not to have more than 1 badge on a computer afterall. :D -- Scarletdown
Re: ooh! debian jewelry
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Scarletdown wrote: On 10 Dec 2003 at 17:37, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I just found this ... and want it ... bad. Thought some of you might find it of interest: http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/ one can drag solder flux in the debian logo style and use solder to start ?? ... or similar for gold plating ?? That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html time to find stuffed penguins for xmas presents ?? c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ooh! debian jewelry
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 05:37:01PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I just found this ... and want it ... bad. Thought some of you might find it of interest: http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/ That's pretty sweet. Geek chic to a whole new level! Cheers! -- ---ScruLoose--- I care less and less what people think. - Ani DiFranco --Please do not CC me-- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature