Re: FW: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2004-01-01 Thread Bill Marcum
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 09:25:21AM -0800, Sreelal Chandrasenan wrote:
Isn't this the same ID10T that had all his email forwarded to the list
a few days ago?

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Re: FW: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2004-01-01 Thread Bill Marcum
Oops, my bad, I was reading old messages.

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Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-15 Thread Terry Hancock
On Sunday 14 December 2003 07:31 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
 On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 at 15:54 GMT, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) penned:
  On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 14:08:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
  Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and
  freely usable, but google seems to disagree.
  http://partners.adobe.com/asn/tech/pdf/specifications.jsp has e.g.
  the PDF Reference, Fourth Edition, Version 1.5 (1172 pages). xpdf
  seems to handle the Acrobat 5 version of it just fine.
 
 Thank you!

I don't think I remembered to say Thank you, myself, Ray.
So, thank you for the link!  It appears that I stand corrected
on the PDF spec issue.

Cheers,
Terry

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FW: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-15 Thread Sreelal Chandrasenan


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To: debian users
Subject: Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)


On Sunday 14 December 2003 07:31 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
 On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 at 15:54 GMT, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) penned:
  On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 14:08:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
  Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and
  freely usable, but google seems to disagree.
  http://partners.adobe.com/asn/tech/pdf/specifications.jsp has e.g.
  the PDF Reference, Fourth Edition, Version 1.5 (1172 pages). xpdf
  seems to handle the Acrobat 5 version of it just fine.
 
 Thank you!

I don't think I remembered to say Thank you, myself, Ray.
So, thank you for the link!  It appears that I stand corrected
on the PDF spec issue.

Cheers,
Terry

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Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-15 Thread Rich Johnson
On Thursday, December 11, 2003, at 12:43 AM, ScruLoose wrote:

On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 05:37:01PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
I just found this ... and want it ... bad.

Thought some of you might find it of interest:

http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/
That's pretty sweet.
Geek chic to a whole new level!
...for a chic geek!

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Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 14:08:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
 Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely
 usable, but google seems to disagree.

Google isn't quite the all-seeing eye yet. 

http://partners.adobe.com/asn/tech/pdf/specifications.jsp has e.g.
the PDF Reference, Fourth Edition, Version 1.5 (1172 pages). xpdf seems to
handle the Acrobat 5 version of it just fine.

HTH,
Ray
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Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread Terry Hancock
On Sunday 14 December 2003 09:54 am, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:
 http://partners.adobe.com/asn/tech/pdf/specifications.jsp has e.g.
 the PDF Reference, Fourth Edition, Version 1.5 (1172 pages). xpdf seems to
 handle the Acrobat 5 version of it just fine.

Hmm.  Yes, that's very interesting. I saved a copy, although Adobe
apparently thinks that was illegal of me:


No part of this publication (whether in hardcopy or electronic form) 
may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted
in any form, or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying,
recording or otherwise, without the prior written permission of Adobe
Systems Incorporated. Please note that the content in this guide is
protected under copyright law even if it is not distributed with software
that includes an end user license agreement.


That's cute wording, isn't it?  Doesn't that pretty much debar saving
the file on my hard drive?  Surely that's a retrieval system?

Which says they're trying to deny certain fair use rights, as I read it. In
any case, this may be one reason it's so hard to find, since no one is
legally allowed to mirror it.

I accessed this without registering because you provided a deep-link,
but normally, Adobe makes you go through a forms process to get this
far, AFAICT.  That's probably why Google can't find it, too.

So, yeah, it's there.  And that's better than I thought.  But it still doesn't
quite give me warm-fuzzies.  ;-)

Cheers,
Terry


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Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 12:56:45 -0600, Terry Hancock wrote:
 I accessed this without registering because you provided a deep-link, but
 normally, Adobe makes you go through a forms process to get this far,
 AFAICT.

Nope. I very vaguely recalled it being available on developer.adobe.com
(which I've never accessed from the machine I'm currently on). Using that as
a URL, I get some silly select your region page which has a top bar that
includes Products  Technology. Follow that, select Adobe PDF reference
manual (under Core technologies) et voila.

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Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:50:32 -0600, 
Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 I attended media production classes
 for staff at Caltech in which making maximum use of these
 PDF 5 features was *really* pushed hard (sometime last year).
 No doubt they had also received some serious direct
 marketing, and were just passing it on.

..you make Caltech sound like they teach dancing to shills.
 
 (On the other hand, they also have a program
 pushing a TeX + XML pipeline for publishing theses and
 dissertations, which I think is a move in the right direction).
 

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Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 at 15:54 GMT, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) penned:
 On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 14:08:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
 Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and
 freely usable, but google seems to disagree.
 
 Google isn't quite the all-seeing eye yet. 
 
 http://partners.adobe.com/asn/tech/pdf/specifications.jsp has e.g.
 the PDF Reference, Fourth Edition, Version 1.5 (1172 pages). xpdf
 seems to handle the Acrobat 5 version of it just fine.
 
 HTH, Ray


Thank you!

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Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread Raghavendra Bhat
Monique posts:

 I could have sworn that PDF  was a spec published by Adobe and freely
 usable, but google seems to disagree

Should  the PDF  format be  used  and recommended  by governments?   The
Govt. of India is calling for opinions and this link is interesting

http://gnu.org.in/philosophy/mitrules.html

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Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-13 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:08:45 +, Colin Watson wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 01:30:35AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
 On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned:
  That's pretty cool.  I also recommend this site as well...
  
  http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html
 
 Ah, some neat stuff, and much more budget-friendly.  But tell me, does
 anyone ever actually wear cufflinks?  I mean, other than to a funeral,
 where probably little penguins wouldn't be greatly appreciated by the
 other mourners.
 
 I do from time to time. I had to regretfully give up on wearing a
 cufflinked shirt to a party recently because I couldn't find either of
 my two pairs of cufflinks at short notice (yeah, I'm disorganized).
 
 Dress sense might be a bit different in the UK from that in the US,
 though.

Speaking as an expat Welshman who emigrated from London, yes, it is a
little different.  I prefer to wear cufflinks;  unfortunately,
single-cuffed shirts in the US do not generally have the extra buttonhole
by the cuff button, so, if one wants to wear cufflinks, one has to wear
double-cuffed shirts.

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Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-13 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 at 03:00 GMT, Greg Madden penned:
 
 For a do-it yourself (sort-of) Debian Swirl go to Kinko's (print shop). 
 They do cut vinyl, fairly cheep, bring in a .esp logo from http://
 debian.org/logos/. I put one on my work van :)

Ooh.  I was wondering where to find logos.

Why eps as opposed to pdf or whatever?

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Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-13 Thread Terry Hancock
On Saturday 13 December 2003 12:46 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 at 03:00 GMT, Greg Madden penned:
  http://debian.org/logos/
 Ooh.  I was wondering where to find logos.
 
 Why eps as opposed to pdf or whatever?

Well, for one reason, postscript is an older and more widespread
standard in the printing field (whereas PDF is ostensibly only for
electronic distribution).  Any printshop running whatever OS on
their computers will have an easier time reading and handling
encapsulated postscript.

That would be the printshop's reason.

Furthermore, PDF isn't really an open data format, just a
closed one that turned out to be easier to crack than .doc files.
Adobe isn't any nicer about sharing their standards than
Microsoft is.  The fact that we have good Linux readers for
PDF has more to do with slow releases of new versions of
the standard, and more widespread use (especially in the
academic community), than with any intrinsic quality.  But
the latest versions (5.x?) still don't seem to be accessible
with open source tools.

OTOH, postscript has been around for so long that it is definitely
a well-understood standard (there are published manuals
explaining the language in detail).  I'm not sure whether it was
intended to be open or not, but it is in effect, at least.

And that would probably be Debian's reason. ;-)

Cheers,
Terry

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Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-13 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 02:36:10PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote:
} On Saturday 13 December 2003 12:46 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
}  On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 at 03:00 GMT, Greg Madden penned:
}   http://debian.org/logos/
}  Ooh.  I was wondering where to find logos.
}  
}  Why eps as opposed to pdf or whatever?
[...]
} Furthermore, PDF isn't really an open data format, just a
} closed one that turned out to be easier to crack than .doc files.
} Adobe isn't any nicer about sharing their standards than
} Microsoft is.  The fact that we have good Linux readers for
} PDF has more to do with slow releases of new versions of
} the standard, and more widespread use (especially in the
} academic community), than with any intrinsic quality.  But
} the latest versions (5.x?) still don't seem to be accessible
} with open source tools.
} 
} OTOH, postscript has been around for so long that it is definitely
} a well-understood standard (there are published manuals
} explaining the language in detail).  I'm not sure whether it was
} intended to be open or not, but it is in effect, at least.
} 
} And that would probably be Debian's reason. ;-)

That is entirely FUD. PDF is no more nor less open than PostScript. Both
PostScript and PDF are industry standards developed, promoted, and
documented by Adobe. A Google search for pdf specification turns up the
Adobe PDF specification, available free from Adobe, within the first two
links. Similarly, a google search for postscript language reference turns
up the PostScript specification available free from Adobe as the first link.

} Cheers,
} Terry
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PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-13 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 at 20:36 GMT, Terry Hancock penned:
 
 Furthermore, PDF isn't really an open data format, just a closed one
 that turned out to be easier to crack than .doc files.  Adobe isn't
 any nicer about sharing their standards than Microsoft is.  The fact
 that we have good Linux readers for PDF has more to do with slow
 releases of new versions of the standard, and more widespread use
 (especially in the academic community), than with any intrinsic
 quality.  But the latest versions (5.x?) still don't seem to be
 accessible with open source tools.
 

Oops.  Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe
and freely usable, but google seems to disagree.  It references some old
links from the adobe site, but they seem to have been removed.

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Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-13 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 at 21:00 GMT, Gregory Seidman penned:
 
 That is entirely FUD. PDF is no more nor less open than PostScript.
 Both PostScript and PDF are industry standards developed, promoted,
 and documented by Adobe. A Google search for pdf specification turns
 up the Adobe PDF specification, available free from Adobe, within the
 first two links. Similarly, a google search for postscript language
 reference turns up the PostScript specification available free from
 Adobe as the first link.
 

Did you try following that pdf spec link?  I did, and it was broken.

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Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-13 Thread Terry Hancock
On Saturday 13 December 2003 03:08 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
 Oops.  Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe
 and freely usable, but google seems to disagree.  It references some old
 links from the adobe site, but they seem to have been removed.

PDF 5.x is supposed to contain the same document encryption
technology that everyone gets so steamed about MS doing with
the DOC format.  There are good reasons for distrusting that.

It would be conceivable to call PDF 4 an open standard, since
Ghostscript can already handle it.  But we really ought to make
a distinction, since the newer versions are incompatible.

This is equally true of DOC format, too, though. We *could* adopt
some prior version of it as a standard, seeing as several open
word processors can handle them already.

I'd rather see something like the OASIS standard
http://lwn.net/Articles/16043/  work, though.

Cheers,
Terry

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Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-13 Thread Nunya
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:08:07PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote:
 
 This is equally true of DOC format, too, though. We *could* adopt
 some prior version of it as a standard, seeing as several open
 word processors can handle them already.

Many PDFs I get don't display correctly in gv.

The Calorie-info pdf from KrispyKreme.  Try the Rebate form for FluMist.
A few others.


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Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-13 Thread Nunya
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:08:07PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote:
 It would be conceivable to call PDF 4 an open standard, since
 Ghostscript can already handle it.  But we really ought to make
 a distinction, since the newer versions are incompatible.

Or, I could even quote the right paragraph.
[repost w/ correct quote]

Many PDFs I get don't display correctly in gv.

The Calorie-info pdf from KrispyKreme.  Try the Rebate form for FluMist.
A few others.


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Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-13 Thread Terry Hancock
On Saturday 13 December 2003 10:11 pm, Nunya wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:08:07PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote:
  It would be conceivable to call PDF 4 an open standard, since
  Ghostscript can already handle it.  But we really ought to make
  a distinction, since the newer versions are incompatible.
 
 Many PDFs I get don't display correctly in gv.

Yes.  I have the same problem.

I'm not sure whether this means they 1) meet the later standard,
2) are non-compliant with the standard as published (but are
compatible with the de-facto it looks okay in acroread
standard), or if the problem is actually 3) bugs in GV making
it not meet the standard it was written to.

I'm inclined to think it's mostly the #1.  PDF has evolved, and
acroread 5.x supports a lot of bells and whistles that I know
GV is not prepared for.  I attended media production classes
for staff at Caltech in which making maximum use of these
PDF 5 features was *really* pushed hard (sometime last year).
No doubt they had also received some serious direct
marketing, and were just passing it on.

(On the other hand, they also have a program
pushing a TeX + XML pipeline for publishing theses and
dissertations, which I think is a move in the right direction).

Cheers,
Terry

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Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-11 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned:
 
 That's pretty cool.  I also recommend this site as well...
 
 http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html

Ah, some neat stuff, and much more budget-friendly.  But tell me, does
anyone ever actually wear cufflinks?  I mean, other than to a funeral,
where probably little penguins wouldn't be greatly appreciated by the
other mourners.

 I'm going to be placing my first order with them later this month
 (after I do a few more auctions and refill the coffers).  I'm planning
 on ordering a sheet of the Linux Inside Case Badges, plus a couple Tux
 lapel pins and Tux keychains.  They have some stuff there with the
 Debian logo as well, but I prefer the penguin myself, though I may
 eventually order a sheet of Debian case badges too.  No reason not to
 have more than 1 badge on a computer afterall.  :D
 

I adore the Debian swirl.  I'm planning on getting a ski helmet in the
next couple of weeks (hoping to get it for Christmas after some
extensive and explicit hinting), and when I do, I'm going to find a nice
big swirl sticker and slap that baby on the helmet.

Mmm, raspberry swirl!  Delicious!

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Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-11 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 02:30, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
 On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned:
  
  That's pretty cool.  I also recommend this site as well...
  
  http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html
 
 Ah, some neat stuff, and much more budget-friendly.  But tell me, does
 anyone ever actually wear cufflinks?  I mean, other than to a funeral,
 where probably little penguins wouldn't be greatly appreciated by the
 other mourners.

Cufflinks have actually been making a comeback in the last few years. I
bought a cufflink-friendly dress shirt (i.e. cuffs that fold back) about
a year ago and it's been my favorite shirt ever since.

 I adore the Debian swirl.  I'm planning on getting a ski helmet in the
 next couple of weeks (hoping to get it for Christmas after some
 extensive and explicit hinting), and when I do, I'm going to find a nice
 big swirl sticker and slap that baby on the helmet.
 
 Mmm, raspberry swirl!  Delicious!

If, next time I go skiing, I see someone wearing a ski helmet with a
Debian swirl on the side of, I'll be sure to say hi. :) (Assuming I can
still form coherent sentences after a full day of wiping out
repeatedly... :)

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Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 01:30:35AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
 On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned:
  That's pretty cool.  I also recommend this site as well...
  
  http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html
 
 Ah, some neat stuff, and much more budget-friendly.  But tell me, does
 anyone ever actually wear cufflinks?  I mean, other than to a funeral,
 where probably little penguins wouldn't be greatly appreciated by the
 other mourners.

I do from time to time. I had to regretfully give up on wearing a
cufflinked shirt to a party recently because I couldn't find either of
my two pairs of cufflinks at short notice (yeah, I'm disorganized).

Dress sense might be a bit different in the UK from that in the US,
though.

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Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-11 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 05:08, Colin Watson wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 01:30:35AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
  On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned:
   That's pretty cool.  I also recommend this site as well...
   
   http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html
  
  Ah, some neat stuff, and much more budget-friendly.  But tell me, does
  anyone ever actually wear cufflinks?  I mean, other than to a funeral,
  where probably little penguins wouldn't be greatly appreciated by the
  other mourners.
 
 I do from time to time. I had to regretfully give up on wearing a
 cufflinked shirt to a party recently because I couldn't find either of
 my two pairs of cufflinks at short notice (yeah, I'm disorganized).
 
 Dress sense might be a bit different in the UK from that in the US,
 though.

I have elastic cufflinks with wrapped cord as the outside that I always
keep on my cufflink shirts. If I can't find my 'real' cufflinks, I just
leave those in and go like that. They're solid black so they still look
good, but they're about $2 (US) a piece so I can afford to have a set
for each of my shirts.

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Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Madden
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On Wednesday 10 December 2003 11:30 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
 On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned:
  That's pretty cool.  I also recommend this site as well...
 
  http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.h
 tml

 Ah, some neat stuff, and much more budget-friendly.  But tell me,
 does anyone ever actually wear cufflinks?  I mean, other than to a
 funeral, where probably little penguins wouldn't be greatly
 appreciated by the other mourners.
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 I adore the Debian swirl.  I'm planning on getting a ski helmet in
 the next couple of weeks (hoping to get it for Christmas after some
 extensive and explicit hinting), and when I do, I'm going to find a
 nice big swirl sticker and slap that baby on the helmet.

 Mmm, raspberry swirl!  Delicious!

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 monique

For a do-it yourself (sort-of) Debian Swirl go to Kinko's (print shop). 
They do cut vinyl, fairly cheep, bring in a .esp logo from http://
debian.org/logos/. I put one on my work van :)
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Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-10 Thread Scarletdown



On 10 Dec 2003 at 17:37, Monique Y. Herman wrote:


 I just found this ... and want it ... bad.
 
 Thought some of you might find it of interest:
 
 http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/
 
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 monique

That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well...


http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html


I'm going to be placing my first order with them later this month (after I do a few more auctions 
and refill the coffers). I'm planning on ordering a sheet of the Linux Inside Case Badges, plus 
a couple Tux lapel pins and Tux keychains. They have some stuff there with the Debian logo 
as well, but I prefer the penguin myself, though I may eventually order a sheet of Debian case 
badges too. No reason not to have more than 1 badge on a computer afterall. :D


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Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-10 Thread Alvin Oga

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Scarletdown wrote:

 On 10 Dec 2003 at 17:37, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
 
  I just found this ... and want it ... bad.
  
  Thought some of you might find it of interest:
  
  http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/

one can drag solder flux in the debian logo style and
use solder to start ?? ... or similar for gold plating ??

 That's pretty cool.  I also recommend this site as well...
 
 http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html
 

time to find stuffed penguins for xmas presents ??

c ya
alvin


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Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-10 Thread ScruLoose
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 05:37:01PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
 I just found this ... and want it ... bad.
 
 Thought some of you might find it of interest:
 
 http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/

That's pretty sweet.
Geek chic to a whole new level!

Cheers!
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