Re: pppd -- Sorry - this system lacks PPP kernel support

1998-01-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, 4 Jan 1998, Robert D. Hilliard wrote:

: Greg Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >
: > Ok, now it says "System Lacks PPP Kernel Support.
: 
: Hi Greg!
: 
: Make sure that /dev/modem is a link to ttyS1, and not ttys1.
:   ^  ^
: Whatever ttys1 is, if it is pointed to by /dev/modem, or if it is
: mentioned directly in /etc/ppp/options, pppd will give the message:
: 
:   Sorry - this system lacks PPP kernel support
: 
: This sounds like a bug to me.  Does anyone here understand why pppd
: would give such a deceptive error message?

Sure.  It's not deceptive, it's just not very clear :)  When you try to
use the PPP line discipline on /dev/ttys1, which is a console, it does
not work.  Why?  Because the kernel does not understand how to make a
console use PPP (there is no kernel support for PPP _on_that_device_).
The kernel _does_ know about PPP on serial ports [1], and /dev/ttyS1
refers to a serial port ...

[1] Assuming, of course, that you've got a kernel with PPP support, or
have loaded the PPP module, etc.

: Kirk Hilliard
: (using my Dad's account since ghoti.com is still down)

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Re: pppd -- Sorry - this system lacks PPP kernel support

1998-01-05 Thread bn711
On  4 Jan, Robert D. Hilliard wrote:
> 
> This sounds like a bug to me.  Does anyone here understand why pppd
> would give such a deceptive error message?
> 
> Kirk Hilliard
> (using my Dad's account since ghoti.com is still down)

I got this message when I first compiled PPP as a kernel module.  Since
ppp.o depends on slhc.o and bsdcomp.o, if module dependencies aren't
set up correctly, modprobe will refuse to load it.

The best way to find out is simply to do "modprobe ppp" as root... if
it fails, then try editing /etc/conf.modules and uncommenting this line:

#depfile=/lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.dep

It says not to do this... but it made my modules work and I've never
had any problems since.

Cheers

Dave



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Re: pppd -- Sorry - this system lacks PPP kernel support

1998-01-05 Thread john
> Whatever ttys1 is, if it is pointed to by /dev/modem, or if it is
> mentioned directly in /etc/ppp/options, pppd will give the message:

>  Sorry - this system lacks PPP kernel support

> This sounds like a bug to me.  Does anyone here understand why pppd would
> give such a deceptive error message?

>From a quick galnce at the source, it looks like they test for ppp support
by trying to put the tty into the ppp discipline.  When this fails, they
assume it is due to lack of ppp support.  The tty does not seem to be
validated in any way.  I'd call it a bug.  Users find it very confusing.
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