Re: problems with X in hamm

1998-07-20 Thread Alexander
Hi...

Perhaps you should try downgrading to an older version of the X
servers/packages?

Alex

On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Peter S Galbraith wrote:

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 Carlo U. Segre wrote:
 
  I have been trying to install a new machine with the frozen hamm
  distribution and I am running into 2 problems with X11.
  
  1. No user outside root is allowed to start X11.  This may be a
  configuration issue but I know that this did not happen in Debian 1.3
  
  2. I use a S3 ViRGE video card and I am noticing that I have a corrupted
  text console screen when I exit X (running it as root, of course).  This
  happens both when I am using the SVGA server and the S3V server.
  
  I am about to drop back to 1.3 out of frustration but wondered if these
  problems are just my incompetence...
 
 A similar problem was reported by Stephen Ryan in the debian-devel list.
 If he figures it out perhaps he can help you.
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Re: problems with X in hamm

1998-07-20 Thread Carlo U. Segre
On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I am not using hamm, but is the wrapper /usr/X11R6/bin/X suid root?

yes it is.

Carlo


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Re: problems with X in hamm

1998-07-20 Thread Carlo U. Segre
On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Michael B. Taylor wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 16, 1998 at 04:16:08PM -0500, Carlo U. Segre wrote:
  
  I have been trying to install a new machine with the frozen hamm
  distribution and I am running into 2 problems with X11.
  
  1. No user outside root is allowed to start X11.  This may be a
  configuration issue but I know that this did not happen in Debian 1.3
 
 Take a look at the config and Xserver files in /etc/X11.  There are some 
 short instructions there on how to edit these files to your liking.

These seem to be OK.  I have checked with 1.3 systems and the files are as
they should be.

Carlo

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Re: problems with X in hamm

1998-07-20 Thread Carlo U. Segre
On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Alexander wrote:

 Hi...
 
 Perhaps you should try downgrading to an older version of the X
 servers/packages?
 

Probably, I will do that but it will require installing 1.3 fresh since
a downgrade of just the X packages is not possible.

Carlo


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Re: problems with X in hamm

1998-07-18 Thread paul

I am not using hamm, but is the wrapper /usr/X11R6/bin/X suid root?

On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Carlo U. Segre wrote:

 
 I have been trying to install a new machine with the frozen hamm
 distribution and I am running into 2 problems with X11.
 
 1. No user outside root is allowed to start X11.  This may be a
 configuration issue but I know that this did not happen in Debian 1.3
 
 2. I use a S3 ViRGE video card and I am noticing that I have a corrupted
 text console screen when I exit X (running it as root, of course).  This
 happens both when I am using the SVGA server and the S3V server.
 
 I am about to drop back to 1.3 out of frustration but wondered if these
 problems are just my incompetence...
 
 Cheers,
 
 Carlo
 
 
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Re: problems with X in hamm

1998-07-18 Thread stephen . p . ryan
On 17 Jul, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
 
 Carlo U. Segre wrote:
 
 I have been trying to install a new machine with the frozen hamm
 distribution and I am running into 2 problems with X11.
 
 1. No user outside root is allowed to start X11.  This may be a
 configuration issue but I know that this did not happen in Debian 1.3
 
 2. I use a S3 ViRGE video card and I am noticing that I have a corrupted
 text console screen when I exit X (running it as root, of course).  This
 happens both when I am using the SVGA server and the S3V server.
 
 I am about to drop back to 1.3 out of frustration but wondered if these
 problems are just my incompetence...
 
 A similar problem was reported by Stephen Ryan in the debian-devel list.
 If he figures it out perhaps he can help you.

For the first problem, I only know of two things - the fact that
/usr/bin/X11/X should be suid root, and the /etc/X11/Xserver should
have Console as the second line, to allow anyone logged into the
console to start the X server.  Anything beyond that, and I'm lost. 
Sorry.

For the second problem, I don't have a fix so much as a workaround,
discovered in trying to troubleshoot the cause for my problem - nobody
can run the X server, not even root, because it crashes every time with
a Bus Error.  This appears to be a bug related to some PCI based video
cards and certain types of PCI bus controllers.  In the course of
trying to troubleshoot this, Gregory Stark passed on this neat hack:

copied from a post by Gregory in the debian-devel list

Incidentally here's a useful hack:

in /etc/kbd/default.map bind Spawn_Console to some unused key:
 control keycode 127 = Spawn_Console

in /etc/inittab:
 kb::kbrequest:restoretextmode -r /var/tmp/restoretext.regs

and run:
 restoretextmode -w /var/tmp/restoretext.regs

Then you can press that key combination to restore text mode after an svgalib
app, or now X, has messed it up. On a multi-user system /var/tmp might not be
a good choice for security though.

I haven't tried this little hack for fixing corrupted text mode screens
yet, as I'm still rebuilding my system from the effects of the HP
recovery disk, which recovered my system by erasing all the
partitions; it looks to me like you might need the svgatextmode package
to use it.  

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Re: problems with X in hamm

1998-07-17 Thread Peter S Galbraith

Carlo U. Segre wrote:

 I have been trying to install a new machine with the frozen hamm
 distribution and I am running into 2 problems with X11.
 
 1. No user outside root is allowed to start X11.  This may be a
 configuration issue but I know that this did not happen in Debian 1.3
 
 2. I use a S3 ViRGE video card and I am noticing that I have a corrupted
 text console screen when I exit X (running it as root, of course).  This
 happens both when I am using the SVGA server and the S3V server.
 
 I am about to drop back to 1.3 out of frustration but wondered if these
 problems are just my incompetence...

A similar problem was reported by Stephen Ryan in the debian-devel list.
If he figures it out perhaps he can help you.
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Re: problems with X in hamm

1998-07-16 Thread Michael B. Taylor
On Thu, Jul 16, 1998 at 04:16:08PM -0500, Carlo U. Segre wrote:
 
 I have been trying to install a new machine with the frozen hamm
 distribution and I am running into 2 problems with X11.
 
 1. No user outside root is allowed to start X11.  This may be a
 configuration issue but I know that this did not happen in Debian 1.3

Take a look at the config and Xserver files in /etc/X11.  There are some 
short instructions there on how to edit these files to your liking.

I dont think the installation scripts would have overwritten these files
unless you answered Y to the configuration file question for the applicable
packages.

 
 2. I use a S3 ViRGE video card and I am noticing that I have a corrupted
 text console screen when I exit X (running it as root, of course).  This
 happens both when I am using the SVGA server and the S3V server.
 
 I am about to drop back to 1.3 out of frustration but wondered if these
 problems are just my incompetence...
 


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