Re: right handheld computer for a Debian user?
On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 06:35:56PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 07:15:40AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: I suppose if I don't insist on being able to use Linux I can lessen the price lots? If all you want is to read documents, the Palm Zire 21 can be obtained for under $60. Mind you, that's only 2MB of storage, so it would depend on how many documents you're looking to store at a time. The Zire is 2MB, the Zire 21 is 8MB (with about 7.3MB available). Also it has a nicer screen than the Zire, 8(16?) shades of grey instead of b/w. hth, Rofi -- Ifor Gaukroger, Rofi, eVe ... If ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: right handheld computer for a Debian user?
What's the right handheld computer for this particular person? I was just thinking of copying some documents onto the handheld to finish reading them there, to reduce wear and tear on the desktop computer. I understand handheld computers have no moving parts to wear out etc. and don't fear lightning storms. If anything breaks it is a long trip to town. I suppose then all I need is a monochrome handheld and just go for the cheapest, and not insist on Linux, and just use the $ apt-cache search palm stuff to put the files I want to browse later on it. I suppose if I don't insist on being able to use Linux I can lessen the price lots? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: right handheld computer for a Debian user?
On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 07:15:40AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: I suppose if I don't insist on being able to use Linux I can lessen the price lots? IMO, the low-budget Treos and whatnot don't offer much beyond what you can get in a cell phone. Just go ahead and buy the $500 iPaq and the $300 GPS, and spend $200 on 2 512mb SD cards. It's worth a grand. Short of that, just buy a good cell phone. Or, if you can spend two grand, get one of the real computers that weigh a few ounces. The highest end Archos video thing might be worth the $600. Don't waste money on a low-end handheld; just get a phone with bluetooth. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: right handheld computer for a Debian user?
On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 07:15:40AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: I suppose if I don't insist on being able to use Linux I can lessen the price lots? If all you want is to read documents, the Palm Zire 21 can be obtained for under $60. Mind you, that's only 2MB of storage, so it would depend on how many documents you're looking to store at a time. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading http://www.jabootu.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: right handheld computer for a Debian user?
I really like my sony clie TJ25, but I haven't been able to get it to work with linux. I think the problem is that it doesn't have to have a cradle to connect. On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 10:43:05PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: #secure method=pgp mode=sign -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the right handheld computer for a Debian user? $ apt-cache search palm $ apt-cache search pda|grep PDA $ apt-cache search handheld Seem to say the Palm brand is best supported. Yup. You can pretty much kiss ease-of-use goodbye on any device running Windows when it comes to handhelds, anyway, when it comes time to synch. I'm happy with my Handspring Visor Deluxe that I got three years ago. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBSnlpUzgNqloQMwcRAn+hAJwJgY5gf9fjJFFRvLfbAq2Lc2KQCACbBMsF j4QZOH82kmbrp58TNeYiSwc= =/H8m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.torrin.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: right handheld computer for a Debian user?
On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 07:24:13AM -0600, Torrin wrote: I really like my sony clie TJ25, but I haven't been able to get it to work with linux. I think the problem is that it doesn't have to have a cradle to connect. Sorry about the top posting in my last message. I forgot. -- http://www.torrin.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: right handheld computer for a Debian user?
On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 10:43:05PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Yup. You can pretty much kiss ease-of-use goodbye on any device running Windows when it comes to handhelds, anyway, when it comes time to synch. I bought this app called PocketOutlook, which is a C# api to create or modify tasks, contacts, appointments, and wrote a C# app to sync from XML. On the Linux side of things my PIM data was already stored in XML (another custom app I wrote - tupim - on sf.net) so I wrote an xsl stylesheet, and wrapped it in a bash script. I use vsftp and bluez-utils and pand to set up an ip address over bluetooth, put the files I want to sync in an ftp dir, then run the C# app on the handheld. It slurps down the files, deletes/ recreates all the data, uploads whatever, logs stuff, shuts down. Then on the Linux side again I run the script to shut everything down and log stuff. Works great. The key takeaways are : (1) get your PIM data in XML, (2) use C#/PocketOutlook on the handheld to write your own sync app. (You'll need to d/l your own C# ftp client implementation -- it's out there, GPL. Look for it). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: right handheld computer for a Debian user?
#secure method=pgp mode=sign -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Torrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really like my sony clie TJ25, but I haven't been able to get it to work with linux. I think the problem is that it doesn't have to have a cradle to connect. No, that shouldn't be it. You may have to run hotsync by hand on the handheld to make it work, though. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBS4viUzgNqloQMwcRAtahAJ9NbcBLoI8iNCKYuTfWdusPyfeVSACg2LTe dqtvm+xMbchGKeVFRwTXI+k= =Gz1N -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: right handheld computer for a Debian user?
On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 07:16:06AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: What is the right handheld computer for a Debian user? Wrong question. The right question is What's the right handheld computer for this particular person? To answer that, we'd need to know said person's actual uses for the device. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading http://www.jabootu.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: right handheld computer for a Debian user?
On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 07:16:06AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: What is the right handheld computer for a Debian user? My Zaurus SLC-760 is a jewel. I just got a 1G SD card and am installing a full Debian, courtesy of Klaus Weidner at http://pocketworkstation.org/ hth, Patrick. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: right handheld computer for a Debian user?
#secure method=pgp mode=sign -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the right handheld computer for a Debian user? $ apt-cache search palm $ apt-cache search pda|grep PDA $ apt-cache search handheld Seem to say the Palm brand is best supported. Yup. You can pretty much kiss ease-of-use goodbye on any device running Windows when it comes to handhelds, anyway, when it comes time to synch. I'm happy with my Handspring Visor Deluxe that I got three years ago. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBSnlpUzgNqloQMwcRAn+hAJwJgY5gf9fjJFFRvLfbAq2Lc2KQCACbBMsF j4QZOH82kmbrp58TNeYiSwc= =/H8m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
