Re: rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-29 Thread Thorny
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:01:17 -0600, Paul E Condon posted:

> I see a list of rsync mirrors for an install CD at www.debian.org. I am
> running Lenny and have rsync installed. I have successfully used rsync to
> do backups locally between hosts on the same LAN. But I don't know what to
> do to use these mirrors.
>

Where on that page do you see this list?
 
> I suppose I use a console or an xterm, and type something. What do I type?
> What preparations should I make prior to typing an rsync command? Should I
> find a copy of an iso of my netinstall from the time when Lenny was still
> in testing, and use it as starter files to speed the rsync?
> 

What is it you are trying to achieve? Do you want to mirror one of those
sites, do you have that much storage space locally?

If you are a bit more specific, someone can probably help you.




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Re: rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_06:07:29, Thorny wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:01:17 -0600, Paul E Condon posted:
> 
> > I see a list of rsync mirrors for an install CD at www.debian.org. I am
> > running Lenny and have rsync installed. I have successfully used rsync to
> > do backups locally between hosts on the same LAN. But I don't know what to
> > do to use these mirrors.
> >
> 
> Where on that page do you see this list?

I start at:
http://www.debian.org/

I click on "CD ISO images" in the left hand column.
This takes me to:
http://www.debian.org/CD/

I click on "Rsync Mirrors" in the left hand column.
This takes me to:
http://www.debian.org/CD/mirroring/rsync-mirrors

On this page there is a bullet list. In each line of this list there is some
text starting with "rsync". This text is rendered in red by iceweasel.
At first glance the text looks to be a command that might be executed at a
command line, but closer examination leads me to believe that it is not a 
well formed command. I am asking what I should do to make use of the information
in this list. In particular, since I live in Colorado, I think I should focus
my attention on the line:

<#> United States: debian.mirrors.tds.net: rsync 
debian.mirrors.tds.net::debian-cd/

which refers to a server in my part of the country. (Red doesn't come thru in
my cut and paste. Nor do bullets.)

>  
> > I suppose I use a console or an xterm, and type something. What do I type?
> > What preparations should I make prior to typing an rsync command? Should I
> > find a copy of an iso of my netinstall from the time when Lenny was still
> > in testing, and use it as starter files to speed the rsync?
> > 
> 
> What is it you are trying to achieve? Do you want to mirror one of those
> sites, do you have that much storage space locally?
> 
> If you are a bit more specific, someone can probably help you.

I want to burn an up-to-date Lenny netinstall CD for future use. For
this I need an up-to-date CD ISO image of Lenny netinstall. If "Rsync
Mirrors" are not intended for this purpose, I am indeed, misinformed,
and need more and different guidance than I was asking for.

Additional, new information: 
Since posting my first message, I made an guess as to what to do and
succeeded in provoking a responce from the site and some error
messages. One of the messages is significant to me. It reported a
failure to execute chroot properly. (I don't remember the exact
wording.) What is important about this error is that I have never
knowingly used chroot. I did mention it in what I tried, and have no
idea what or why chroot invocation was attempted.  This might give
potential responders some idea of the depth of my ignorance. Please 
don't assume too much about my knowledge. 


TIA, and I apologize for my inadequately worded question.
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Re: rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-29 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 09:36:17AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On 2009-03-29_06:07:29, Thorny wrote:
> > On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:01:17 -0600, Paul E Condon posted:
> > 
> > > I see a list of rsync mirrors for an install CD at www.debian.org. I am
> > > running Lenny and have rsync installed. I have successfully used rsync to
> > > do backups locally between hosts on the same LAN. But I don't know what to
> > > do to use these mirrors.
> > >
> > 
> > Where on that page do you see this list?
> 
> I start at:
> http://www.debian.org/
> 
> I click on "CD ISO images" in the left hand column.
> This takes me to:
> http://www.debian.org/CD/
> 
> I click on "Rsync Mirrors" in the left hand column.
> This takes me to:
> http://www.debian.org/CD/mirroring/rsync-mirrors
> 
> On this page there is a bullet list. In each line of this list there is some
> text starting with "rsync". This text is rendered in red by iceweasel.
> At first glance the text looks to be a command that might be executed at a
> command line, but closer examination leads me to believe that it is not a 
> well formed command. I am asking what I should do to make use of the 
> information
> in this list. In particular, since I live in Colorado, I think I should focus
> my attention on the line:
> 
> <#> United States: debian.mirrors.tds.net: rsync 
> debian.mirrors.tds.net::debian-cd/
> 
> which refers to a server in my part of the country. (Red doesn't come thru in
> my cut and paste. Nor do bullets.)
> 
Aptitude install rsync / apt-get install rsync

Then (probably as root)

rsync debian.mirrors.tds.net::debian-cd/

Which would get you the whole of the debian-cd/ tree.

This is probably _NOT_ what you want.

Try downloading a netinst via http (go to http://cdimage.debian.org and 
browse down till you get to your architecture)

OR

aptitude install jigdo-file / apt-get install jigdo-file

Then download the template and .jigdo file from cdimage.org and, as 
root, run

jigdo-lite

in the same directory as the directory you downloaded them to.

This will then prompt you for your nearest mirror and will build the 
image by getting ten or so files at a time until the image is complete.

All best,

AndyC

> >  
> > > I suppose I use a console or an xterm, and type something. What do I type?
> > > What preparations should I make prior to typing an rsync command? Should I
> > > find a copy of an iso of my netinstall from the time when Lenny was still
> > > in testing, and use it as starter files to speed the rsync?
> > > 
> > 
> > What is it you are trying to achieve? Do you want to mirror one of those
> > sites, do you have that much storage space locally?
> > 
> > If you are a bit more specific, someone can probably help you.
> 
> I want to burn an up-to-date Lenny netinstall CD for future use. For
> this I need an up-to-date CD ISO image of Lenny netinstall. If "Rsync
> Mirrors" are not intended for this purpose, I am indeed, misinformed,
> and need more and different guidance than I was asking for.
> 
> Additional, new information: 
> Since posting my first message, I made an guess as to what to do and
> succeeded in provoking a responce from the site and some error
> messages. One of the messages is significant to me. It reported a
> failure to execute chroot properly. (I don't remember the exact
> wording.) What is important about this error is that I have never
> knowingly used chroot. I did mention it in what I tried, and have no
> idea what or why chroot invocation was attempted.  This might give
> potential responders some idea of the depth of my ignorance. Please 
> don't assume too much about my knowledge. 
> 
> 
> TIA, and I apologize for my inadequately worded question.
> -- 
> Paul E Condon   
> pecon...@mesanetworks.net
> 
> 
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Re: rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_16:45:05, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 09:36:17AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > On 2009-03-29_06:07:29, Thorny wrote:
> > > On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:01:17 -0600, Paul E Condon posted:
> > > 
> > > > I see a list of rsync mirrors for an install CD at www.debian.org. I am
> > > > running Lenny and have rsync installed. I have successfully used rsync 
> > > > to
> > > > do backups locally between hosts on the same LAN. But I don't know what 
> > > > to
...
> > which refers to a server in my part of the country. (Red doesn't come thru 
> > in
> > my cut and paste. Nor do bullets.)
> > 
> Aptitude install rsync / apt-get install rsync
> 
> Then (probably as root)
> 
> rsync debian.mirrors.tds.net::debian-cd/
> 
> Which would get you the whole of the debian-cd/ tree.
> 
> This is probably _NOT_ what you want.
> 
> Try downloading a netinst via http (go to http://cdimage.debian.org and 
> browse down till you get to your architecture)
> 
> OR
> 
> aptitude install jigdo-file / apt-get install jigdo-file
> 
> Then download the template and .jigdo file from cdimage.org and, as 
> root, run
> 
> jigdo-lite
> 
> in the same directory as the directory you downloaded them to.
> 
> This will then prompt you for your nearest mirror and will build the 
> image by getting ten or so files at a time until the image is complete.
> 
> All best,
> 
> AndyC
 
Thanks. It is clear from this that "Rsync Mirrors" is not at all what
I thought it was. I had thought it was an improvement on jigdo for 
downloading an updated version of an iso for which I already had an
older, out-of-date file. 

What I had thought was that I could take my netinst.iso from a few
months before Lenny release and rsync it into being a true copy of the
latest version of Lenny netinst without having to transfer ALL the
individual bits of the new copy. That would save some time and
bandwidth over downloading a whole new copy, but ... I sure was
mistaken. I certainly don't want to mirror the whole Lenny repository
locally. No wonder Thorny was puzzled by my question!

My download of a new netinst is half done while I composed this reply.

Thanks.
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Re: rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-30 Thread Wackojacko


 
Thanks. It is clear from this that "Rsync Mirrors" is not at all what
I thought it was. I had thought it was an improvement on jigdo for 
downloading an updated version of an iso for which I already had an
older, out-of-date file. 


What I had thought was that I could take my netinst.iso from a few
months before Lenny release and rsync it into being a true copy of the
latest version of Lenny netinst without having to transfer ALL the
individual bits of the new copy. That would save some time and
bandwidth over downloading a whole new copy, but ... I sure was
mistaken. I certainly don't want to mirror the whole Lenny repository
locally. No wonder Thorny was puzzled by my question!


This is exactly how I use jigdo.  Mount the iso to /mnt/somedir and then 
scan the mount point for files that exist in the new image before asking 
to download.  I also scan  /var/cache/apt/archives for any packages I 
have updated since the original iso was downloaded.




My download of a new netinst is half done while I composed this reply.



Probably a bit late now!

Thanks.


HTH

Wackojacko


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