Re: spamassassin exim
Użytkownik o2 napisał: Czy ktoś zna może adres jakiejś strony z dokładny opisem konfiguracjaii spamassassin-a z exim 3 ??? proponuję zacząć od tego: http://www.debianusers.pl/article.php?aid=62 spamassasina podłączysz do amavisa a nie bezpośrednio do exima. pozdrawiam pr
Re: Spamassassin + exim
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 05:42:50 -0700 Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 10:16:14PM -0400, Jeff Elkins wrote: Kmail doesn't show your email as having an attachment. Would that be the gpg? Yup, that's it. View the raw message and you'll see that it's a multipart MIME message. As is mine. I quoted verbosely to this point to make a point. You're is not multipart. You're is inline. Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Disposition: inline Which is one of the reasons I switched away from KMail to Sylpheed-Claws ages ago. It didn't seem possible to get it to PGP/MIME properly. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spamassassin + exim
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 05:45:10 -0700 Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kmail does allow you to define filters, but wouldn't it be better to let exim do the filtering before the mail reaches the MUA? exim doesn't do filtering, but procmail does. Not true in multiple cases. http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.20/doc/html/filter_toc.html http://marc.merlins.org/linux/exim/sa.html -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spamassassin + exim
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:15:09 -0400 kenneth dombrowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, there's definitely something wrong with my setup since upgrading from 2.43 - 2.55 this past week, I've fed sa-learn almost 2k --spam and 4k --ham messages, and I'm yet to see a single BAYES_* test in the headers Is it turned on? IE, do the rules files have Bayesian rules in it? Are they scored higher than 0? Do they have it enabled? Do your personal preferences have them enabled? Have you fed it large amounts of ham only to have that dump into your personal filter and looking at it from the global or vice versa? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spamassassin + exim
On 03-08-31 16:56 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:15:09 -0400 kenneth dombrowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, there's definitely something wrong with my setup since upgrading from 2.43 - 2.55 this past week, I've fed sa-learn almost 2k --spam and 4k --ham messages, and I'm yet to see a single BAYES_* test in the headers Is it turned on? IE, do the rules files have Bayesian rules in it? Are they scored higher than 0? Do they have it enabled? Do your personal preferences have them enabled? Have you fed it large amounts of ham only to have that dump into your personal filter and looking at it from the global or vice versa? Thank you, Steve, your last question prompted me to rethink what was going on. I am calling spamc via dman's SpamAssassin/Exim 3 method (which must run as user mail to set $received_protocol) but calling sa-learn as my user. I had another look around, and it looked like the auto-learning was happening in /var/mail/.spamassassin, while I'd only been looking in my ~/.spamassassin dir I re-read `man spamd` (among many others), and decided I would just employ a system-wide bayes_ db -- nobody else really uses the box right now anyway -- so I added this to /etc/spamassassin/local.cf: bayes_path /var/mail/.spamassassin/bayes bayes_file_mode 0664 which I expected to have permission problems with. The original permissions were: # ls -lA /var/mail/ drwx--S---2 mail mail 4096 Sep 1 00:11 .spamassassin # ls -lA /var/mail/.spamassassin/ -rw---1 mail mail 1496 Sep 1 00:11 bayes_msgcount -rw---1 mail mail 118784 Sep 1 00:11 bayes_seen -rw---1 mail mail 1327104 Sep 1 00:11 bayes_toks -rw-r--r--1 mail mail 741 Aug 21 01:20 user_prefs I made these modifications: # addgroup --system sa # adduser kenneth sa # adduser mail sa # chown -R mail:sa /var/mail/.spamassassin # chmod g+rwx /var/mail/.spamassassin # chmod 0664 /var/mail/.spamassassin/* And sent myself a test message from my work account: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01 version=2.55 So it seems to work. In the end it might have been easier to just filter @ the Procmail level, but I understand with Exim4 it's possible to reject mail @ the SMTP level based on SA results.. which seems like a desirable thing to implement when I finally get around to upgrading exim If it's a half-baked approach, I'd appreciate any comments.. Thanks again, Kenneth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin + exim
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 03:19:12 -0400 kenneth dombrowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the end it might have been easier to just filter @ the Procmail level, but I understand with Exim4 it's possible to reject mail @ the SMTP level based on SA results.. which seems like a desirable thing to implement when I finally get around to upgrading exim If it's a half-baked approach, I'd appreciate any comments.. Actually it is a more secure version of what I have done here. In fact I do it the really half-baked way by adding myself to the mail and gave myself sudo access to chmod to get the directories to the right permission. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spamassassin + exim
On 03-09-01 01:48 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Actually it is a more secure version of what I have done here. In fact I do it the really half-baked way by adding myself to the mail and gave myself sudo access to chmod to get the directories to the right permission. cool. thanks for the feedback. just for the archives, I noticed this morning SA wasn't able to update it's bayes db. I'm not really sure why, but I had to change the OPTIONS line in /etc/default/spamassassin to specify that spamd should run as user mail. While I was at it, I dropped the -c (create user_prefs per user), so that file looks like this: ENABLED=1 # turn on spamd OPTIONS=-m 10 -u mail yet even after that my mutt macros to '| spamassassin -r' etc were updating the bayes_* files in my ~/.spamassassin/ dir.. I guess because I already had the user_prefs file.. adding the same bayes_path setting to my ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs that I had put in /etc/spamassassin/local.cf finished the conversion to using a site-wide spamd/bayes db (i hope). my ~/.spamassassin/auto_whitelist file is still being used privately hope it's of interest. Kenneth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin + exim
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:04:59 -0400 Jeff Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used spamc ./$1 | grep '^X-Spam' and it identified an obvious piece of spam, and my emails now contain: Received: from mail by elkins.org with spam-scanned (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) Your stats on mail processed is also going to double. If you're feeling brave try updating to Exim4 and give SA-Exim a whirl. Only a single delivery per message and much finer control over what happens to the message. :) Much more to learn here for both exim and spamassassin...next I want to route any html email or mail with attachments to a spam bucket account. Bad idea. You'll note my message has an attachment on it. According to some recent stats so do about 30% of this list. Attachments are a tool. Like any tool they can be used properly or improperly. Let SA's Bayesian filters figure out which instead of making a improper blanket rule. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spamassassin + exim
On Saturday 30 August 2003 8:39 pm, Steve Lamb wrote: On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:04:59 -0400 Jeff Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used spamc ./$1 | grep '^X-Spam' and it identified an obvious piece of spam, and my emails now contain: Received: from mail by elkins.org with spam-scanned (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) Your stats on mail processed is also going to double. If you're feeling brave try updating to Exim4 and give SA-Exim a whirl. Only a single delivery per message and much finer control over what happens to the message. :) Much more to learn here for both exim and spamassassin...next I want to route any html email or mail with attachments to a spam bucket account. Bad idea. You'll note my message has an attachment on it. According to some recent stats so do about 30% of this list. Attachments are a tool. Like any tool they can be used properly or improperly. Let SA's Bayesian filters figure out which instead of making a improper blanket rule. Kmail doesn't show your email as having an attachment. Would that be the gpg? At any rate, almost 99% of the spam I get is HTML, but I get your drift of letting SA handle the catagorization of email. Like I said, I'm a total nube at this, so I appreciate the tips. I'd also like to dump the false bounces I'm getting flooded with due to the viruses. I'm running unstable and my exim is version: 3.36-8. Jeff Elkins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin + exim
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:16:14 -0400 Jeff Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kmail doesn't show your email as having an attachment. Would that be the gpg? Yup. At any rate, almost 99% of the spam I get is HTML, but I get your drift of letting SA handle the catagorization of email. Like I said, I'm a total nube at this, so I appreciate the tips. I'd also like to dump the false bounces I'm getting flooded with due to the viruses. I'm running unstable and my exim is version: 3.36-8. Are you using Bayesian filtering at all? It took a little but but those are filtering out nicely now. Can Kmail let you define actions for messages? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spamassassin + exim
On Saturday 30 August 2003 10:19 pm, Steve Lamb wrote: On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:16:14 -0400 Jeff Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kmail doesn't show your email as having an attachment. Would that be the gpg? Yup. At any rate, almost 99% of the spam I get is HTML, but I get your drift of letting SA handle the catagorization of email. Like I said, I'm a total nube at this, so I appreciate the tips. I'd also like to dump the false bounces I'm getting flooded with due to the viruses. I'm running unstable and my exim is version: 3.36-8. Are you using Bayesian filtering at all? It took a little but but those are filtering out nicely now. Can Kmail let you define actions for messages? Now that I'm using SA, I'm using Bayesian filtering, yes? Kmail does allow you to define filters, but wouldn't it be better to let exim do the filtering before the mail reaches the MUA? I'm in totally new territory here, so pardon my ignorance :) Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin + exim
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:35:20 -0400 Jeff Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I'm using SA, I'm using Bayesian filtering, yes? If you turned it on, yes. Kmail does allow you to define filters, but wouldn't it be better to let exim do the filtering before the mail reaches the MUA? Yes, however the filters need to be trained. To do that you need to send examples of both ham and spam to the Bayesian filter. Read up on it: man sa-learn -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spamassassin + exim
Steve Lamb wrote: On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:35:20 -0400 Jeff Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I'm using SA, I'm using Bayesian filtering, yes? If you turned it on, yes. Kmail does allow you to define filters, but wouldn't it be better to let exim do the filtering before the mail reaches the MUA? Yes, however the filters need to be trained. To do that you need to send examples of both ham and spam to the Bayesian filter. Read up on it: man sa-learn From what I'm seeing in the logs and in the docs is that Bayesian filtering is enabled by default. But it is not used until there is (IIRC) 200 emails of both spam and ham built into the database. Did I miss something? -- I found Rome a city of bricks and left it a city of marble. -- Augustus Caesar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin + exim
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 23:18:59 -0400 Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I'm seeing in the logs and in the docs is that Bayesian filtering is enabled by default. But it is not used until there is (IIRC) 200 emails of both spam and ham built into the database. Did I miss something? How does it get to that 200 mark of ham and spam? While autolearning is turned on by default with a threshold of -2 for ham and +15 for spam this just reinforces the default SA rules. IE, anything SA would have let through anyway it now gets a negative scoring on the Bayesian filtering. Anything SA would have rejected gets a higher scoring thanks to Bayesian. Furthermore the autolearn thresholds discount the Bayesian modifier. So if a piece of mail scores 15 exactly before Bayes kicks in it won't be autolearned. sa-learn lets you feed messages to the Bayesian filter to learn from. Bayesian doesn't need to be active for it to learn. This lets you get the filter trained a bit faster. Furthermore it will help adjust on messages that SA would miss as either ham or spam. The bounces and virus messages being a prime example. Ever since they were coming in I've been feeding them to the filter. Now most are rejected at SMTP time even though the SA team has not released another version with updated filters to address those types of messages. I don't sent every message to the filters. I let autolearn do its job. But I do make it a point every now and again to feed it 20-30 messages from random lists and my inbox. About 1/2 were not autolearned so it keeps my filters fresh. I do feed all spam into the filters to ensure that side is definitely kept up to date. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spamassassin + exim
Steve Lamb wrote: On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 23:18:59 -0400 Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I'm seeing in the logs and in the docs is that Bayesian filtering is enabled by default. But it is not used until there is (IIRC) 200 emails of both spam and ham built into the database. Did I miss something? How does it get to that 200 mark of ham and spam? While autolearning is turned on by default with a threshold of -2 for ham and +15 for spam this just reinforces the default SA rules. It may be turned on in the config files, but I am guessing that the code is skipping the bayesian score contribution until the mail count gets to 200 on each side (ham/spam). I just grabbed a lot of email I had already and fed it into the sa-learn. I think I have enough now that it is working. I'm not sure, I just kind of fiddled with it a few times in the early hours and got it working. -- Bombeck's Rule of Medicine: Never go to a doctor whose office plants have died. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin + exim
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 23:40:13 -0400
Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It may be turned on in the config files, but I am guessing that the code is
skipping the bayesian score contribution until the mail count gets to 200 on
each side (ham/spam).
Right.
I just grabbed a lot of email I had already and fed it into the sa-learn.
I think I have enough now that it is working.
You can tell by looking at the headers and seeing if BAYES_xx shows up.
The xx is the approx. range that the Bayesian filter places the particular
piece of mail. For example here's the score from the message of yours I am
responding to:
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.6 required=5.0
tests=BAYES_10,NO_REAL_NAME
version=2.55
So the Bayesian filter (classifier?) thinks it is 10-??% (forget the upper
range) likely to be spam. Ah, here it is. From 23_bayes.cf...
body BAYES_10 eval:check_bayes('0.10', '0.20')
...10 to 20% which gives it a score of...
score BAYES_10 0 0 -5.300 -4.701
...-4.701 based on my setup. IIRC first score is if no network checks are
enabled, second score is if network checks are enabled. Well, let's see.
NO_REAL_NAME nets the message...
score NO_REAL_NAME 0.993 0.820 1.137 1.149
...1.149. -4.7 + 1.1 = -3.6
I'm not sure, I just kind of fiddled with it a few times in the early hours
and got it working.
Yeah, it just takes a little bit to kick in. Once it does the difference
is dramatic if you track the scores. Average ham for me is around -3 and
average spam is closer to 12 to 15. Affords me a lot of latitude when
configuring sa-exim to reject things at SMTP.
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Re: Spamassassin + exim
On Saturday 30 August 2003 11:48 pm, Steve Lamb wrote:
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 23:40:13 -0400
Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It may be turned on in the config files, but I am guessing that the code
is skipping the bayesian score contribution until the mail count gets to
200 on each side (ham/spam).
Right.
I just grabbed a lot of email I had already and fed it into the sa-learn.
I think I have enough now that it is working.
You can tell by looking at the headers and seeing if BAYES_xx shows up.
The xx is the approx. range that the Bayesian filter places the particular
piece of mail. For example here's the score from the message of yours I am
responding to:
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.6 required=5.0
tests=BAYES_10,NO_REAL_NAME
version=2.55
So the Bayesian filter (classifier?) thinks it is 10-??% (forget the
upper range) likely to be spam. Ah, here it is. From 23_bayes.cf...
body BAYES_10 eval:check_bayes('0.10', '0.20')
...10 to 20% which gives it a score of...
score BAYES_10 0 0 -5.300 -4.701
...-4.701 based on my setup. IIRC first score is if no network checks
are enabled, second score is if network checks are enabled. Well, let's
see. NO_REAL_NAME nets the message...
score NO_REAL_NAME 0.993 0.820 1.137 1.149
...1.149. -4.7 + 1.1 = -3.6
I'm not sure, I just kind of fiddled with it a few times in the early
hours and got it working.
Yeah, it just takes a little bit to kick in. Once it does the
difference is dramatic if you track the scores. Average ham for me is
around -3 and average spam is closer to 12 to 15. Affords me a lot of
latitude when configuring sa-exim to reject things at SMTP.
I'm learning a lot here. This is a valuable thread, thanks!
Jeff
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Re: Spamassassin + exim
Also Sprach Jeff McAdams Also Sprach Paul Johnson On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 10:16:14PM -0400, Jeff Elkins wrote: Kmail doesn't show your email as having an attachment. Would that be the gpg? Yup, that's it. View the raw message and you'll see that it's a multipart MIME message. As is mine. Of course, multipart MIME is strictly the same thing as an attachment. ^^Gah...that should be isn't Specifically, the various parts of multipart/signed messages are shown as inline rather than attached. The distinction is minor, but a fair number of MUA's honor that distinction, so PGP signatures like yours, mine and others won't show up as an attachment. Of course, a fair number of MUA's are hideously broken in their handling, so even text/plain sometimes shows up as an attachment. *sigh* -- Jeff McAdams He who laughs last, thinks slowest. -- anonymous pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Also Sprach Paul Johnson On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 10:16:14PM -0400, Jeff Elkins wrote: Kmail doesn't show your email as having an attachment. Would that be the gpg? Yup, that's it. View the raw message and you'll see that it's a multipart MIME message. As is mine. Of course, multipart MIME is strictly the same thing as an attachment. Specifically, the various parts of multipart/signed messages are shown as inline rather than attached. The distinction is minor, but a fair number of MUA's honor that distinction, so PGP signatures like yours, mine and others won't show up as an attachment. Of course, a fair number of MUA's are hideously broken in their handling, so even text/plain sometimes shows up as an attachment. *sigh* -- Jeff McAdams He who laughs last, thinks slowest. -- anonymous pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spamassassin + exim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 08:56:43AM -0400, Jeff McAdams wrote: Of course, multipart MIME is strictly the same thing as an attachment. Specifically, the various parts of multipart/signed messages are shown as inline rather than attached. The distinction is minor, but a fair number of MUA's honor that distinction, so PGP signatures like yours, mine and others won't show up as an attachment. Of course, a fair number of MUA's are hideously broken in their handling, so even text/plain sometimes shows up as an attachment. *sigh* Yes, whereas mutt really does the job right. It's a bummer nobody's made a KDE shell for mutt to bring the joy of mutt to the Windows convert newbies. It would totally blow their minds. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/UjkYUzgNqloQMwcRArobAJ9PegPaF5kLCbotgujEyaXdBDFlbACgh74u DCPVBDV3lWnbllSrjR3yOaw= =G/4p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 11:06:16AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Yes, whereas mutt really does the job right. It's a bummer nobody's made a KDE shell for mutt to bring the joy of mutt to the Windows convert newbies. It would totally blow their minds. KDE shell for mutt? What's konsole, then? And no, they'd not even care. It's KDE, remember? Whether it gets the job done is entirely secondary to how it looks, and mutt in a konsole doesn't have any eye candy. -- Marc Wilson | (Presuming for the sake of argument that it's even [EMAIL PROTECTED] | *possible* to design better code in Perl than in C. | :-) -- Larry Wall on core code vs. module code design pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 05:45:10AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: exim doesn't do filtering, but procmail does. You may find procmail better suited to your needs, but a good part of the decision is personal choice. Er, exim most certainly does do filtering. There's a lot to be said for rejecting the mail during the SMTP transaction. -- Marc Wilson | Smartness runs in my family. When I went to school [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I was so smart my teacher was in my class for | five years. -- George Burns pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spamassassin + exim
what a timely thread! excuse me for interrupting, On 03-08-30 20:48 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: You can tell by looking at the headers and seeing if BAYES_xx shows up. The xx is the approx. range that the Bayesian filter places the particular piece of mail. For example here's the score from the message of yours I am responding to: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_10,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 well, there's definitely something wrong with my setup since upgrading from 2.43 - 2.55 this past week, I've fed sa-learn almost 2k --spam and 4k --ham messages, and I'm yet to see a single BAYES_* test in the headers I've been looking at this all morning, am totally at a loss. I'm running unofficial backports of SA 2.55 found on apt-get.org: ENKIDU:/var/log# dpkg -l spamassassin spamc perl ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii spamassassin 2.55-2.nobse.1 Perl-based spam filter using text analysis ii spamc 2.55-2.nobse.1 Client for perl-based spam filtering daemon ii perl 5.6.1-8.3 Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Anyway, I know when I had to have my unstable machine fill in for my mail server for a day this past June, 2.54 in sid worked right off, but with Perl 5.8. I'm not sure I'm willing to de-stabalize my Woody box to the point of upgrading Perl. Can anyone confirm that SA 2.55 and Perl 5.6.1 will or will not cooperate? Has anyone else had problems getting this particular backport to begin to run the BAYES_ tests? Thanks in advance, Kenneth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 10:35:20PM -0400, Jeff Elkins wrote: Now that I'm using SA, I'm using Bayesian filtering, yes? That is correct. Kmail does allow you to define filters, but wouldn't it be better to let exim do the filtering before the mail reaches the MUA? exim doesn't do filtering, but procmail does. You may find procmail better suited to your needs, but a good part of the decision is personal choice. I'm in totally new territory here, so pardon my ignorance :) Hey, you're asking fairly good questions, and you sound like you're interested in making a real effort at learning, so you're halfway there. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Ue3WUzgNqloQMwcRAhHIAJ0a0yuDWygnzGkkNSdJuwf6239SawCghc5R ym8wrRnIQFeCsxcibyFU1yA= =bBan -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin + exim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 10:16:14PM -0400, Jeff Elkins wrote: Kmail doesn't show your email as having an attachment. Would that be the gpg? Yup, that's it. View the raw message and you'll see that it's a multipart MIME message. As is mine. At any rate, almost 99% of the spam I get is HTML, but I get your drift of letting SA handle the catagorization of email. Like I said, I'm a total nube at this, so I appreciate the tips. I'd also like to dump the false bounces I'm getting flooded with due to the viruses. You might want to assign some keyboard shortcuts in kmail if you can, so you can automatically pipe the message through spamassassin -a -k or spamassassin -a -r as appropriate. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Ue1KUzgNqloQMwcRAmHAAJ9jPsCQKHXgyW7dSfa3PMf7LvrKlACeM+zH jN078lPgZZHj9xi3ksJ0zQQ= =NFGF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 08:27:43PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Did I miss something? How does it get to that 200 mark of ham and spam? I got bored last night. Really bored. Waiting for 2.6.0-test2 to compile bored. In the mean time, I went through my email archive. It goes back to last March. I sorted it into spam and ham. I then used sa-learn --showdots --ham --mbox ham to learn all the ham, and sa-learn --showdots --spam --mbox spam to learn all the spam and watched a few thousand dots scroll down the screen. I wasn't thinking ahead or I would have used time on it to see just how long it took (I went and did other stuff for a while. I was bored. I watched a lot of Star Trek off the Tivo and had a Proper Cup of Tea). It learned 542 spam. It learned 14,000 ham. It took forever. I wish I used time but I'm not starting it again. It didn't help that I was compiling 2.6.0-test2 in the background. It's getting warm in the apartment, so the fans on my koolance case kick up a notch every so often[1]. sa-learn lets you feed messages to the Bayesian filter to learn from. Bayesian doesn't need to be active for it to learn. This lets you get the filter trained a bit faster. Furthermore it will help adjust on messages that SA would miss as either ham or spam. The bounces and virus messages being a prime example. Ever since they were coming in I've been feeding them to the filter. Now most are rejected at SMTP time even though the SA team has not released another version with updated filters to address those types of messages. Woohoo! zim Another win for the Debian army! /zim I don't sent every message to the filters. I let autolearn do its job. But I do make it a point every now and again to feed it 20-30 messages from random lists and my inbox. About 1/2 were not autolearned so it keeps my filters fresh. I do feed all spam into the filters to ensure that side is definitely kept up to date. I added this little bit to my ~/.muttrc: macro index [|sa-learn --ham --single 2 /dev/null /dev/null enter macro pager [|sa-learn --ham --single 2 /dev/null /dev/null enter macro index ]|sa-learn --spam --single 2 /dev/null /dev/null enter macro pager ]|sa-learn --spam --single 2 /dev/null /dev/null enter Wham, every message can be easily run through. Autolearn becomes handy when you're on vacation (since it'll be extremely tuned). [1] The case is reminiscent of a locomotive if you look at it at the right angle. I'm thinking a cool case mod would be to add vents and and cab windows to make it look like one. Hey, it's already got the big radiator and fans at the top. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/UlblUzgNqloQMwcRAprNAKCwE/0eCObF/PeH73qfbYmryvjztACgi87k aI599imaCLqbLgJt1VITXnI= =3C/a -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin + exim
On Friday 29 August 2003 2:21 pm, Michael Heldebrant wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 12:23, Jeff Elkins wrote:
Is there a FAQ available for setting up Spamassassin and exim? Googling
found several for SA + postfix, but not for exim.
Thanks,
Jeff Elkins
I'm not sure if there is a complete FAQ available. This is how I have
spamc integrated into the exim delivery sequence:
I only needed to add two sections to the exim.conf file and make
configure spamd to be running.
To the transports section add the following:
spamc_delivery:
driver = pipe
command = /usr/bin/spamc -e /usr/sbin/exim -oMr spam-scanned -i
-f ${sender_address} ${pipe_addresses}
user = mail
group = mail
current_directory =/tmp
This specifies to deliver mail through spamc which will then be
redelivered into exim with the received protocol (-oMr) set to
spam-scanned.
In the directors section add:
spamcheck:
driver = smartuser
transport = spamc_delivery
# When to scan a message :
# - it isn't already flagged as spam
# - it isn't already scanned
condition = ${if and { {!def:h_X-Spam-Flag:} {!eq
{$received_protocol}{spam-scanned}}} {1}{0}}
right after the real_local stanza so all incoming mail not grabbed by
real_local gets routed into the spamcheck director hence sent through
spamc. After it's been spam-scanned it passes this director and gets
delivered however you have it configured below this stanza.
--mike
Thanks! I'm trying this out currently.
I used spamc ./$1 | grep '^X-Spam' and it identified an obvious piece of
spam, and my emails now contain: Received: from mail by elkins.org with
spam-scanned (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian))
Of course, once I made the changes to exim.conf I haven't gotten any spam :)
(not that I'm complaining:)
Much more to learn here for both exim and spamassassin...next I want to route
any html email or mail with attachments to a spam bucket account.
Jeff Elkins
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Re: Spamassassin + exim
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:23:51 -0400 Jeff Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a FAQ available for setting up Spamassassin and exim? Googling found several for SA + postfix, but not for exim. Ya sure about that? Seems to me that the 2nd link for a search on Spamassassin Exim is pretty darn useful all things considered. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spamassassin + exim
On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 01:23:51PM -0400, Jeff Elkins wrote: | Is there a FAQ available for setting up Spamassassin and exim? | Googling found several for SA + postfix, but not for exim. Try again. http://www.google.com/search?q=exim%20spamassassin Or look on the spamassassin home page. There are some links buried in there. I recommend these : http://marc.merlins.org/linux/exim/sa.html http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/config_docs/exim-spamassassin/ -D -- It took the computational power of three Commodore 64s to fly to the moon. It takes at least a 486 to run Windows 95. Something is wrong here. http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spamassassin + exim
On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 12:23, Jeff Elkins wrote:
Is there a FAQ available for setting up Spamassassin and exim? Googling found
several for SA + postfix, but not for exim.
Thanks,
Jeff Elkins
I'm not sure if there is a complete FAQ available. This is how I have
spamc integrated into the exim delivery sequence:
I only needed to add two sections to the exim.conf file and make
configure spamd to be running.
To the transports section add the following:
spamc_delivery:
driver = pipe
command = /usr/bin/spamc -e /usr/sbin/exim -oMr spam-scanned -i
-f ${sender_address} ${pipe_addresses}
user = mail
group = mail
current_directory =/tmp
This specifies to deliver mail through spamc which will then be
redelivered into exim with the received protocol (-oMr) set to
spam-scanned.
In the directors section add:
spamcheck:
driver = smartuser
transport = spamc_delivery
# When to scan a message :
# - it isn't already flagged as spam
# - it isn't already scanned
condition = ${if and { {!def:h_X-Spam-Flag:} {!eq
{$received_protocol}{spam-scanned}}} {1}{0}}
right after the real_local stanza so all incoming mail not grabbed by
real_local gets routed into the spamcheck director hence sent through
spamc. After it's been spam-scanned it passes this director and gets
delivered however you have it configured below this stanza.
--mike
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On Friday 29 August 2003 2:01 pm, Steve Lamb wrote: On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:23:51 -0400 Jeff Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a FAQ available for setting up Spamassassin and exim? Googling found several for SA + postfix, but not for exim. Ya sure about that? Seems to me that the 2nd link for a search on Spamassassin Exim is pretty darn useful all things considered. http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/config_docs/exim-spamassassin/ I must have screwed up my query. Re-searching found several. Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andreas, * Mit Exim4 als Transport (das mueste sich aber auch fuer v3 adaptieren lassen). http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim4_spamassassin.html Für exim3 gibt es dort auch eine sehr gute Anleitung unter http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim3_spamassassin.html Damit ist es in 5 Minuten gegessen. Martin -- www.bretschneidernet.de OpenPGP_0x4EA52583 ICQ_110543824 (o__ (O_ Sallust: //\' //\ Nam idem velle atque idem V_/_ V_/_nolle, ea demum firma amicitia est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spamassassin Exim
On Sat, 31 May 2003 the mental interface of Stefan Risse told: Hallo Freunde von Debian Wie sieht es aus mit dem Exim und Spamassassin habe eine Installation mit apt-get install spamassassin gemacht nun weiss ich nicht weiter! Wer kann mir helfen? /etc/init.d/spamd start Studiere /usr/share/doc/spamassassin/*|exmples/* und passe die $HOME/.procmailrc Dateien entsprechend den Wünschen der $HOME Besitzer an. Ciao Elimar -- .~. /V\ L I N U X /( )\ Phear the Penguin ^^-^^ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Hallo Stefan, * Stefan Risse schrieb [31-05-03 22:42]: Wie sieht es aus mit dem Exim und Spamassassin habe eine Installation mit apt-get install spamassassin gemacht nun weiss ich nicht weiter! Wer kann mir helfen? man spamassassin ls -l /usr/share/doc/spamassassin man google Gruss Udo -- F: Word? Was ist das? A: Das ist wohl das Programm, das ursrpünglich einmal Text heißen sollte. Da es aber für längere Dokumente ungeeignet ist, wurde es umbenannt. Inzwischen kann es aber bereits 97 Wörter verwalten. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Stefan Risse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wie sieht es aus mit dem Exim und Spamassassin habe eine Installation mit apt-get install spamassassin gemacht nun weiss ich nicht weiter! Wer kann mir helfen? Kommt darauf an, was du mit welcher Version von Exim willst: * Integration in procmail: Siehe SA-Doku. * Mit Exim4 als Transport (das mueste sich aber auch fuer v3 adaptieren lassen). http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim4_spamassassin.html * Alternativ gibt es noch spamassassin im SMTP dialog mit Exim4 mit sa-exim http://marc.merlins.org/linux/exim/sa.html oder exiscan-acl http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan-acl/ cu andreas -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Spamassassin Exim
In der Konfigurationsdatei von Exim müssen die
notwendigen Eintragungen vorhanden sein.
Es muss ein Router definiert werden, bzw. ein Director,
wenn Sie noch Exim3 benutzen und natürlich ein Transport.
Beispiel für den Router:
--- SNIP
# Spamassassin Router
spamcheck_router:
no_verify
check_local_user
# When to scan a message :
# - it isn't already flagged as spam
# - it isn't already scanned
condition = \
${if and { {!def:h_X-Spam-Flag:} \
{!eq {$received_protocol}{spam-scanned}} \
}\
{1}{0}\
}
driver = accept
transport = spamcheck
--- SNIP
Beispiel für den Transport:
--- SNIP
# Spamassassin Transport
spamcheck:
driver = pipe
command = /usr/exim/bin/exim -oMr spam-scanned -bS
use_bsmtp = true
transport_filter = /usr/bin/spamc -u $local_part
home_directory = /tmp
current_directory = /tmp
user = mail
group = mail
log_output = true
return_fail_output = true
return_path_add = false
message_prefix =
message_suffix =
--- SNIP
Das wars schon.
Den Router müssen Sie genau vor den (anderen) Routern platzieren, vor
denen der Spamcheck gemacht werden soll.
Starten Sie dann den spamd und senden Sie Ihrem Exim ein kill -HUP.
Getestet ist das Ganze nur für Exim4, ich hoffe es läuft auch mit Exim3,
wenn nicht, so sollten die notwendigen Anpassungen gering sein.
Vielleicht hat auch schon das Debian-Paket die Eintragungen in die
Konfigurationsdateien vor genommen.
Wundern würde mich das bei Debian jedenfalls nicht.
Achten Sie auch darauf, dass der Spamassassin immer aktuell ist.
Sonst bringt die Sache ggf. nicht viel.
Die aktuelle Version Spamassassin ist (noch) 2.55.
- oliver
Am Sam, 2003-05-31 um 23.22 schrieb Elimar Riesebieter:
On Sat, 31 May 2003 the mental interface of
Stefan Risse told:
Hallo Freunde von Debian
Wie sieht es aus mit dem Exim und Spamassassin habe eine Installation mit
apt-get install spamassassin
gemacht nun weiss ich nicht weiter! Wer kann mir helfen?
/etc/init.d/spamd start
Studiere /usr/share/doc/spamassassin/*|exmples/* und passe die
$HOME/.procmailrc Dateien entsprechend den Wünschen der $HOME
Besitzer an.
Ciao
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Re: Spamassassin Exim
Hallo Elimar, * Elimar Riesebieter schrieb [31-05-03 23:22]: /etc/init.d/spamd start Dieses Initscript hat wohl keiner auf dem Rechner. Außerdem: $EDITOR /etc/default/spamassassin Gruss Udo -- Übrigens gibt es jetzt eine Briefmarke von Bill Gates. Leider klebt die nicht so richtig. Eine unabhängige Kommission hat inzwischen festgestellt, daß die Leute immer auf die falsche Seite spucken. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: spamassassin + exim
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 10:59:12AM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote: On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 12:52:56AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote.. Can anyone recommend a good way to integrate spamassassin with exim? apt-get install procmail. Then, in your ~/.procmail/rc.recipe file, make sure you have something like: Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't consider procmail to be integrated with exim. Exim already has a very good filtering solution built-in and I'd like to use it. Regards Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 12:52:56AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Can anyone recommend a good way to integrate spamassassin with exim? I tried the instructions at http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim3_spamassassin.html to use it as a transport filter, but I just unexpected EOF during smtp type errors from the spawned exim. I set up an awful kludge in my .forward but I would prefer something better integrated with exim. I need it to work with amavis as well, though.. amavis has some built-in hooks for spamassassin but there's hints in the amavis config file that they don't work. Also, spamassassin's default rules seem to contain a non-functional rbl, as every delivery takes 30 seconds while it times out. :-( Hm, I just use spamassassin (see http://www.arise.demon.co.uk/exim_spamassassin.html), but you might be able to adapt that to run messages through amavis rather than spamc. (It's also for Exim 4, but ports back reasonably well to Exim 3 by using smartuser directors instead of accept routers). SRH -- Steve Haslam Reading, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Maintainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your heart has been ruptured and it will never heal To get another heart you'll have to steal[leæther strip] msg07836/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: spamassassin + exim
On 16 Oct 2002, Iain. wrote: Gottfried Szing [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i would suggest to replace the spamassassin with spamc/spamd. spamd is a daemon which runs in the background and spamc controls the daemon. I've got a couple of problems with spamd. First is that it doesn't appear to start correctly if I'm offline. I haven't investigated much, but it seems to look for a Razor server on startup, and it won't do Razor lookups after that fails. Secondly, I can't get it to read my ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs. Any suggestions? Iain. I think the seeking for the Razor server on startup is a bug; I'm just getting the latest version of spamassassin from testing so perhaps it has been fixed. I find that using Razor is very slow. I've therefore included the -L switch in /etc/default/spamassassin to make filtering local and this has speeded things up greatly without much increase in spam getting through. AC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| http://www.acampbell.org.uk using Linux GNU/Debian || for book reviews, electronic Windows-free zone || books and skeptical articles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spamassassin + exim
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 12:52:56AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote.. Can anyone recommend a good way to integrate spamassassin with exim? apt-get install procmail. Then, in your ~/.procmail/rc.recipe file, make sure you have something like: ## filter all mail through SpamAssassin ## :0 fw | spamassassin -P :0 e EXITCODE==$? :0: * ^X-Spam-Flag: YES $HOME/mail/spam/ ** That should do it. HTH. Kevin -- Kevin Coyner mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key: 1024D/8CE11941 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 16:59, Kevin Coyner wrote: apt-get install procmail. Then, in your ~/.procmail/rc.recipe file, make sure you have something like: ## filter all mail through SpamAssassin ## :0 fw | spamassassin -P i would suggest to replace the spamassassin with spamc/spamd. spamd is a daemon which runs in the background and spamc controls the daemon. the reason is that a mail flood kills the server because the perl-script is causing the server to run at a very high load. in my case about 30-40 concurrently received mails killed the server or made him at least not available for a while. after moving to spamc/spamd everything works fine. and no problems with an higher mail traffic. cu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 05:22:10PM +0200, Gottfried Szing wrote.. On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 16:59, Kevin Coyner wrote: apt-get install procmail. Then, in your ~/.procmail/rc.recipe file, make sure you have something like: ## filter all mail through SpamAssassin ## :0 fw | spamassassin -P i would suggest to replace the spamassassin with spamc/spamd. spamd is a daemon which runs in the background and spamc controls the daemon. If I run spamc/spamd, then would my procmail recipe simple be ... ## filter all mail through SpamAssassin ## :0 fw | spamassassin Or something different? Thanks Kevin -- Kevin Coyner mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key: 1024D/8CE11941 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This one time, at band camp, Kevin Coyner said: If I run spamc/spamd, then would my procmail recipe simple be ... ## filter all mail through SpamAssassin ## :0 fw | spamassassin Or something different? Thanks Kevin The site http://spamassassin.org/sitewide.html says to use :0 fw | spamc instead, as there's less overhead with spamc. HTH, Steve -- All who joy would win Must share it -- Happiness was born a twin. -- Lord Byron msg07411/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Hello Kevin, On Oct 16, Kevin Coyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | If I run spamc/spamd, then would my procmail recipe simple be ... | | ## filter all mail through SpamAssassin ## | :0 fw | | spamassassin | | Or something different? The following two blocks are my first recipes, using spamc/spamd: :0fw | spamc :0: * ^X-Spam-Flag: YES spam ### -- Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wonka.hampshire.edu/~jason GPG key - 0EFB1DFE Walt: Dad, what's gradual school? Garp: Gradual school? Walt: Yeah. Mom says her work's more fun now that she's teaching gradual school. Garp: Oh. Well, gradual school is someplace you go and gradually find out that you don't want to go to school anymore. -- The World According To Garp msg07413/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: spamassassin + exim
Gottfried Szing [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i would suggest to replace the spamassassin with spamc/spamd. spamd is a daemon which runs in the background and spamc controls the daemon. I've got a couple of problems with spamd. First is that it doesn't appear to start correctly if I'm offline. I haven't investigated much, but it seems to look for a Razor server on startup, and it won't do Razor lookups after that fails. Secondly, I can't get it to read my ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs. Any suggestions? Iain. -- Iain Georgeson | Perl Adept | http://www.anchovy.durge.org/ For something that does not exist, the Internet Engineering Task Force has had quite an impact. -- Scott Bradner -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spamassassin + exim
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 12:52:56AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Can anyone recommend a good way to integrate spamassassin with exim? I tried the instructions at http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim3_spamassassin.html to use it as a transport filter, but I just unexpected EOF during smtp type errors from the spawned exim. That's the easiest way. I've got an exim.conf that uses a handful of more moderate RBLs, as well as having spamassassin as a transport agent. Email me if you want it. I set up an awful kludge in my .forward but I would prefer something better integrated with exim. I need it to work with amavis as well, though.. amavis has some built-in hooks for spamassassin but there's hints in the amavis config file that they don't work. You could probably change it a bit to run amavis from exim... Also, spamassassin's default rules seem to contain a non-functional rbl, as every delivery takes 30 seconds while it times out. :-( Comment it out... -- Baloo msg07471/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: spamassassin, exim et fetchmail
Le ven 14/06/2002 à 18:02, Jacques L'helgoualc'h a écrit :
le couple client/démon spam[cd] est bien plus rapide quand on récupère
son courrier par paquets.
# utilise le daemon spamd
:0 fw
| spamc
pour l'instant ni spamassassin, ni spam[cd] fonctionnent chez moi :
je n'ai pas de header X-Spam-Status:
j'ai essayé avec les deux en mettant
:0 fw
| spamc
dans /etc/procmailrc
je me demande si procmail est bien invoqué a la reception d'un mail.
dans /etc/exim/exim.conf, j'ai :
# This transport is used for procmail
procmail_pipe:
driver = pipe
command = /usr/bin/procmail -d ${local_part}
return_path_add
delivery_date_add
envelope_to_add
check_string = From
escape_string = From
user = $local_part
et plus loin :
# This director runs procmail for users who have a .procmailrc file
procmail:
driver = localuser
transport = procmail_pipe
require_files =
${local_part}:+${home}:+${home}/.procmailrc:+/usr/bin/procmail
no_verify
en fait je n'ai rien touché a ce niveau par rapport a la config par
défaut.
les mails qui arrivent par fetchmail ne sont pas analysés non plus
fetchmail tourne en démon, allant chercher les mails toutes les 300
secondes
dans /etc/fetchmailrc, il n'y a rien concernant procmail
est-ce qu'il y a quelque chose a ajouter pour demander a procmail
d'analyser les mails venant de exim et de fetchmail ?
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en fait je n'ai rien touché a ce niveau par rapport a la config par défaut. les mails qui arrivent par fetchmail ne sont pas analysés non plus fetchmail tourne en démon, allant chercher les mails toutes les 300 secondes dans /etc/fetchmailrc, il n'y a rien concernant procmail est-ce qu'il y a quelque chose a ajouter pour demander a procmail d'analyser les mails venant de exim et de fetchmail ? Oui, dans ton .fetchmailrc, il faut ajouter après les poll mda /usr/bin/procmail -Y -d %T (en vérifiant le chemin vers procmail bien sur) merci De rien grégoire -- Us et coutumes A l'image des Français qui jettent du riz sur les mariés, les Chinois jettent des bérets. Les nuls -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- /*-- assert(cafeine 50 * EXPRESSO); // Lethal dose? brain += cafeine; --*/ pgpFWL8owQYOU.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Oui, dans ton .fetchmailrc, il faut ajouter après les poll mda /usr/bin/procmail -Y -d %T (en vérifiant le chemin vers procmail bien sur) j'ai ajouté ca dans mon /etc/fetchmailrc cependant j'ai une erreur quand fetchmail va chercher les mails : Insecure dependency in mkdir while running setuid at /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/File/Path.pm line 137. procmail: Program failure (70) of spamassassin procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded éliminé /etc/procmailrc contenant : :0 fw | spamassassin je fais comment pour corriger ca ? merci pour l'aide grégoire -- Il y a des femmes qui trouvent a se vendre et qui ne trouveraient pas a se donner ! Chamfort -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 10:55:38AM +0200, Grégoire Cachet wrote: Oui, dans ton .fetchmailrc, il faut ajouter après les poll mda /usr/bin/procmail -Y -d %T (en vérifiant le chemin vers procmail bien sur) j'ai ajouté ca dans mon /etc/fetchmailrc cependant j'ai une erreur quand fetchmail va chercher les mails : Insecure dependency in mkdir while running setuid at /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/File/Path.pm line 137. procmail: Program failure (70) of spamassassin procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded éliminé /etc/procmailrc contenant : :0 fw | spamassassin je fais comment pour corriger ca ? Désolé, mais je ne pense pas pouvoir aider plus vu que je ne connais pas du tout spamassassin. Néanmoins je peux te proposer les liens suivants: http://tnemeth.free.fr/linuxdocs/procmail.html et la liste de liens en bas de la page. merci pour l'aide De rien. grégoire -- Il y a des femmes qui trouvent a se vendre et qui ne trouveraient pas a se donner ! Chamfort -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- /*-- assert(cafeine 50 * EXPRESSO); // Lethal dose? brain += cafeine; --*/ pgpkssaIZEilM.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Le 15.06.02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : | On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 10:55:38AM +0200, Grégoire Cachet wrote: | | Oui, dans ton .fetchmailrc, il faut ajouter après les poll | mda /usr/bin/procmail -Y -d %T | (en vérifiant le chemin vers procmail bien sur) | | j'ai ajouté ca dans mon /etc/fetchmailrc Ce n'est pas forcément nécessaire : si la config de fetchmail ne spécifie pas de MDA, il envoie les messages au MTA local (si tu en as un) et celui-ci les transmet au MDA s'il y a lieu. | Insecure dependency in mkdir while running setuid at | /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/File/Path.pm line 137. | procmail: Program failure (70) of spamassassin | procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded | éliminé | | :0 fw | | spamassassin | | Désolé, mais je ne pense pas pouvoir aider plus vu que je ne connais pas du tout | spamassassin. Néanmoins je peux te proposer les liens suivants: | http://tnemeth.free.fr/linuxdocs/procmail.html et la liste de liens | en bas de la page. Mouais, mais je ne pense pas que cela serve à grand chose. Vu le message d'erreur, c'est plutôt un problème de spamassassin : procmail: Program failure (70) of spamassassin procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded Signifie que spamassassin a échoué, mais que les mails non filtrés ont tout de même pu être sauvés. Le vrai problème se trouve là : Insecure dependency in mkdir while running setuid at /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/File/Path.pm line 137. Quelle est cette dépendence non-sûre à propos de mkdir dans /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/File/Path.pm à la ligne 137 ? Pourquoi spamassassin est-il setuid (root je suppose) ? Voilà quelques pistes... HTH. Thomas -- BOFH excuse #121: Halon system went off and killed the operators. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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j'aimerais mettre en place une solution pour éliminer la majeure partie
de ce spam
Si cela peut t'aider, j'ai écrit cette doc d'intégration d'Exim et de
SPAMASSASSIN il y quelques temps.
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Set up spamassassin + mysql + exim on Debian (full exim-filter solution).
Setup by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
March 16, 2002.
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Applications needed: exim 3.3x, spamassassin 2.x and razor 1.19x.
Create a MySQL database according to the README.sql manual in
/usr/share/doc/spamassassin.
Create a basic setup for GLOBAL user in the userpref table.
You can use the PHP php-sa-mysql-0.5.tar.gz sample found at
http://spamassassin.taint.org/devel/.
1) Edit /etc/default/spamassassin (-D can be removed in production mode)
ENABLED=1
OPTIONS=-u mail -D -x -q
2) Edit /etc/spamassassin/local.cf and insert SQL code
user_scores_dsn DBI:mysql:spam:localhost
user_scores_sql_usernamespam
user_scores_sql_passwordpassword
Mail are filtered according to the GLOBAL user preferences in the SQL database.
3) Start spamd: /etc/init.d/spamassassin start
4) Create the /etc/exim/spam-messages (here is mine as an example)
Your mail with Subject:
$h_Subject:
to the user $header_To: appears to be unsolicited spam.
If you intended to contact a person at that email for legitimate reasons
then our apologies. Please call your technical support to solve this issue.
Thank you
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
5) Edit /etc/exim/exim.conf with the following fragments
# General config for Spam Assassin
message_filter = /etc/exim/spam-filter
message_filter_reply_transport = spam_reply_transport
# End of General config
# Spam Assassin transport
spam_reply_transport:
driver = autoreply
user = mail
# This transport does a spam check to look for spam and then re-injects
# the message into Exim
check_spam:
driver = pipe
user = mail
group = mail
prefix =
suffix =
# If you have problems, all is here.
command = spamc | exim -oMr spam_checked ${if eq {$sender_address} {} \
{} {-f $sender_address}} ${pipe_addresses}
#
ignore_status = true
use_shell = true
return_output = false
return_path_add = false
path = /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin
# End of Spam Assassin transport
# Spam Assassin Director
# place at the start of the Directors section
spam_to_check:
condition = ${if eq {$received_protocol} {spam_checked} {0} {0} }
driver = smartuser
transport = check_spam
# End of Spam Assassin director
# Spam Assassin Router
# place this section only if your Exim server is a SMTP gateway
# passing messages to a smarthost
# place at the start of the Routers section
spam_router:
condition = ${if eq {$received_protocol}{spam_checked} {0}{1}}
driver = domainlist
route_list = *
transport = check_spam
# End of Spam Assassin router
6) Create a file /etc/exim/spam-filter
# Exim Spam Filter for Spam Assassin
if first_delivery and
$h_X-Spam-Flag: contains YES
then
logfile /var/log/exim/spamlog.log
logwrite $tod_log From: $h_From: Subject: $h_Subject: Sender:
$sender_address
if $h_From: is not
then
mail to $h_From: subject Re: Your message has been rejected!
expand file /etc/exim/spam-messages
once /var/log/exim/spamcount.log
once_repeat 5d
endif
seen finish
endif
# End of Exim Spam Filter
7) Restart exim: /etc/init.d/exim restart
That's all!
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Re: spamassassin, exim et fetchmail
Le sam 15/06/2002 à 11:34, Thomas Nemeth a écrit :
Le 15.06.02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté :
| On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 10:55:38AM +0200, Grégoire Cachet wrote:
|
| Oui, dans ton .fetchmailrc, il faut ajouter après les poll
| mda /usr/bin/procmail -Y -d %T
| (en vérifiant le chemin vers procmail bien sur)
|
| j'ai ajouté ca dans mon /etc/fetchmailrc
Ce n'est pas forcément nécessaire : si la config de fetchmail
ne spécifie pas de MDA, il envoie les messages au MTA local (si
tu en as un) et celui-ci les transmet au MDA s'il y a lieu.
si j'ai compris le principe MTA = exim chez moi ?
en gros fetchmail récupere les messages par pop
il les envoye au MTA local par smtp (j'ai remarqué ca en debug-run)
le MTA local se charge de les mettre dans ma boite
je les récupere sur la machine perso par pop avec evolution
il y a un autre circuit
les mails arrivent directement par smtp dans exim
exim s'en charge, je les récupere par pop avec evolution
pour filtrer tous les mails, le mieux est de le faire au niveau d'exim,
comme ca, on filtre tout
comment invoquer spamassassin depuis exim ? via procmail ?
avec la config de procmail et celle d'exim (voir les mails précédents)
c'est censé marcher, cependant spamassassin ne fais rien visiblement.
le probleme vient peut etre de la suite :
procmail: Program failure (70) of spamassassin
procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded
Signifie que spamassassin a échoué, mais que les mails non filtrés
ont tout de même pu être sauvés. Le vrai problème se trouve là :
ca c'est bon signe plutot, je perds pas trop de mails ;-)
Insecure dependency in mkdir while running setuid at
/usr/share/perl/5.6.1/File/Path.pm line 137.
Quelle est cette dépendence non-sûre à propos de mkdir dans
/usr/share/perl/5.6.1/File/Path.pm à la ligne 137 ?
Pourquoi spamassassin est-il setuid (root je suppose) ?
fetchmail tourne sous l'user fetchmail
le seul programme de la chaine qui a des bits setuid c'est procmail :
serveur:~# ls -l /usr/bin/procmail
-rwsr-sr-x1 root mail65532 avr 16 19:26
/usr/bin/procmail
cependant fetchmail n'appartient pas au groupe mail, et fetchmail ne
tourne pas en root, donc je vois pas pourquoi il me parle de setuid ...
voila ce que contient /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/File/Path.pm aux environs de
la ligne 137 : (j'ai noté la ligne 137)
sub mkpath {
my($paths, $verbose, $mode) = @_;
# $paths -- either a path string or ref to list of paths
# $verbose -- optional print mkdir $path for each directory
created
# $mode-- optional permissions, defaults to 0777
local($)=$Is_MacOS ? : : /;
$mode = 0777 unless defined($mode);
$paths = [$paths] unless ref $paths;
my(@created,$path);
foreach $path (@$paths) {
$path .= '/' if $^O eq 'os2' and $path =~ /^\w:\z/s; # feature
of CRT
# Logic wants Unix paths, so go with the flow.
if ($Is_VMS) {
next if $path eq '/';
$path = VMS::Filespec::unixify($path);
if ($path =~ m:^(/[^/]+)/?\z:) {
$path = $1.'/00';
}
}
next if -d $path;
my $parent = File::Basename::dirname($path);
unless (-d $parent or $path eq $parent) {
push(@created,mkpath($parent, $verbose, $mode));
}
print mkdir $path\n if $verbose;
unless (mkdir($path,$mode)) { # --- LIGNE 137
my $e = $!;
# allow for another process to have created it meanwhile
croak mkdir $path: $e unless -d $path;
}
push(@created, $path);
}
@created;
}
ca peut aider ?
merci
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Le sam 15/06/2002 à 11:26, Jacques L'helgoualc'h a écrit : Grégoire Cachet a écrit, samedi 15 juin 2002, à 10:55 : [...] /etc/procmailrc contenant : :0 fw | spamassassin je fais comment pour corriger ca ? | spamassassin -P ca ne change rien merci grégoire -- Ceux qui ne connaissent pas Unix sont condamnés à en inventer une pâle copie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Le sam 15/06/2002 à 12:03, Stephane Leclerc a écrit : j'aimerais mettre en place une solution pour éliminer la majeure partie de ce spam Si cela peut t'aider, j'ai écrit cette doc d'intégration d'Exim et de SPAMASSASSIN il y quelques temps. interessant ;-) Applications needed: exim 3.3x, spamassassin 2.x and razor 1.19x. Create a MySQL database according to the README.sql manual in /usr/share/doc/spamassassin. j'ai créé une base spam, un utilisateur spam dans la base spam, j'ai créé la table userpref a l'aide /usr/share/doc/spamassassin/examples/spamassassin.sql Create a basic setup for GLOBAL user in the userpref table. que veux-tu dire par la ? 3) Start spamd: /etc/init.d/spamassassin start je suis en mode debug avec -D cependant il s'arrete quand je le lance : serveur:/# /etc/init.d/spamassassin restart Restarting SpamAssassin Mail Filter Daemon: debug: ignore: test message to precompile patterns and load modules debug: using /usr/share/spamassassin for default rules dir debug: using /etc/spamassassin for site rules dir debug: running header regexp tests; score so far=0 debug: running body-text per-line regexp tests; score so far=0.8 debug: running uri tests; score so far=0.8 debug: running raw-body-text per-line regexp tests; score so far=0.8 debug: running full-text regexp tests; score so far=0.8 debug: Razor is available debug: Razor Agents 1.20, protocol version 2. debug: Discovering closest server in the razor.vipul.net zone debug: Sorted (closest first) list of available servers RTTs: debug: 194.109.217.74 (0.0861) 64.90.187.2 (0.1809) 209.204.62.150 (0.2905) debug: Closest server is 194.109.217.74 debug: Connecting to 194.109.217.74... debug: Connection established debug: Signature: 6fcf9dfbd479ed82697fee719b9f8c610a11ff2a debug: Server version: 1.11, protocol version 2 debug: Server response: Positive 6fcf9dfbd479ed82697fee719b9f8c610a11ff2a debug: - Message 1 is KNOWN SPAM - debug: Agent terminated debug: is Net::DNS::Resolver unavailable? 0 debug: looking up MX for 'microsoft.com.' debug: MX for 'microsoft.com.' exists? 1 debug: is DNS available? 1 debug: checking RBL orbs.dorkslayers.com., set relay debug: checking RBL relays.osirusoft.com., set relay debug: checking RBL relays.ordb.org., set relay debug: checking RBL ipwhois.rfc-ignorant.org., set rfci debug: checking RBL relays.visi.com., set relay debug: checking RBL results in set relay for 127.0.0.6 debug: checking RBL results in set relay for 127.0.0.4 debug: AWL active, pre-score: 7.1, mean: undef debug: Post AWL score: 7.1 debug: is spam? score=7.1 required=5 spamd. serveur:/# d'apres le README.sql, je devrais voir apparaitre une ligne (ou bien un message d'erreur ) si la base SQL marche (ou ne marche pas). comme il s'arrete, je ne vois rien ... il y a une connection a la base dans /var/log/mysql.log : 020615 13:32:034559 Connect [EMAIL PROTECTED] on spam 4559 Query select preference, value from userpref where username = 'root' OR username = 'GLOBAL' 4559 Quit cela fonctionne avec un cat sample-spam.txt | spamc il ajoute bien les headers dans la sortie, mais il n'ajoute rien dans la base de données j'ai ensuite configuré exim. Cependant aucun des mails qui passent par exim ne contiennent de X-Spam-status donc visiblement, il invoque pas spamc comme prévu ... j'ai fouillé les logs dans /var/log/exim/ et /var/log/mail/ et il n'y a pas de traces de messages d'erreur je suis un peu pommé ... merci de votre aide grégoire -- L'administration est un lieu ou les gens qui arrivent en retard croisent dans l'escalier ceux qui partent en avance. Georges Courteline -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Create a basic setup for GLOBAL user in the userpref table.
que veux-tu dire par la ?
Pour que le système marche, il faut au moins un enregistrement dans la base
de données. L'enregistrement GLOBAL.
INSERT INTO userpref VALUES ('GLOBAL', 'rewrite_subject', '0', 303);
INSERT INTO userpref VALUES ('GLOBAL', 'report_header', '0', 304);
INSERT INTO userpref VALUES ('GLOBAL', 'defang_mime', '1', 305);
INSERT INTO userpref VALUES ('GLOBAL', 'use_terse_report', '0', 306);
INSERT INTO userpref VALUES ('GLOBAL', 'required_hits', '7', 307);
INSERT INTO userpref VALUES ('GLOBAL', 'whitelist_from',
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]', 6);
INSERT INTO userpref VALUES ('GLOBAL', 'blacklist_from',
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]', 11);
required_hits = 7 est la meilleure valeur.
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Le 15.06.02, Grégoire Cachet a tapoté :
| Le sam 15/06/2002 à 11:34, Thomas Nemeth a écrit :
| Le 15.06.02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté :
|
| | mda /usr/bin/procmail -Y -d %T
| | j'ai ajouté ca dans mon /etc/fetchmailrc
|
| Ce n'est pas forcément nécessaire : si la config de fetchmail
| ne spécifie pas de MDA, il envoie les messages au MTA local (si
| tu en as un) et celui-ci les transmet au MDA s'il y a lieu.
|
| si j'ai compris le principe MTA = exim chez moi ?
Oui.
| en gros fetchmail récupere les messages par pop
| il les envoye au MTA local par smtp (j'ai remarqué ca en debug-run)
| le MTA local se charge de les mettre dans ma boite
Oui, via le MDA :)
POP -- fetchmail -- MTA -- MDA
|___^ (si on spécifie l'option mda
dans la config de fetchmail)
| je les récupere sur la machine perso par pop avec evolution
Par mbox si c'est en local (mbox est le format standard
de /var/mail/xxx)
| il y a un autre circuit
|
| les mails arrivent directement par smtp dans exim
Dans ce cas il faut que ton serveur SMTP soit ouvert à
l'extérieur. Perso, je ne le fais pas...
| exim s'en charge, je les récupere par pop avec evolution
Oui (hormis pop :)
| pour filtrer tous les mails, le mieux est de le faire au niveau d'exim,
| comme ca, on filtre tout
Tout à fait.
| comment invoquer spamassassin depuis exim ? via procmail ?
Soit via procmail, soit directement dans exim. Je n'ai pas
installé spamassassin, mais il me semble avoir vu un truc
de ce genre sur leur site web.
| avec la config de procmail et celle d'exim (voir les mails précédents)
| c'est censé marcher, cependant spamassassin ne fais rien visiblement.
Ouais. Il doit y avoir un pb d'install.
| le probleme vient peut etre de la suite :
|
| procmail: Program failure (70) of spamassassin
| procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded
|
| Signifie que spamassassin a échoué, mais que les mails non filtrés
| ont tout de même pu être sauvés. Le vrai problème se trouve là :
|
| ca c'est bon signe plutot, je perds pas trop de mails ;-)
:)) Si tu savais le nombre de mails que j'ai pu perdre à la suite
de diverses conneries (genre je détruit un utilisateur temporaire
avec mon nom sous OpenBSD sans avoir démonté /var/mail qui est en
NFS, du coup tous mes mails sont partis dans /dev/null ce jour-là
car OpenBSD supprime aussi les mails des utilisateurs).
| Insecure dependency in mkdir while running setuid at
| /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/File/Path.pm line 137.
|
| Quelle est cette dépendence non-sûre à propos de mkdir dans
| /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/File/Path.pm à la ligne 137 ?
| Pourquoi spamassassin est-il setuid (root je suppose) ?
|
| fetchmail tourne sous l'user fetchmail
Oui (encore que moi, je le fais tourner sous mon uid), mais
ce n'est pas fetchmail qui pose pb, c'est spamassassin.
| le seul programme de la chaine qui a des bits setuid c'est procmail :
|
| serveur:~# ls -l /usr/bin/procmail
| -rwsr-sr-x1 root mail65532 avr 16 19:26
| /usr/bin/procmail
C'est normal : procmail doit être capable de délivrer les messages
dans /var/mail
| cependant fetchmail n'appartient pas au groupe mail, et fetchmail ne
| tourne pas en root, donc je vois pas pourquoi il me parle de setuid ...
ls -l `which spamassassin`
| voila ce que contient /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/File/Path.pm aux environs de
| la ligne 137 : (j'ai noté la ligne 137)
...
| unless (mkdir($path,$mode)) { # --- LIGNE 137
...
| ca peut aider ?
Bof. ÀMHA, le pb vient surtout du bit suid de spamassassin.
Qu'est-ce que ça donne sans ça ?
| merci
Avec plaisir.
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Le sam 15/06/2002 à 23:35, Thomas Nemeth a écrit :
Dans ce cas il faut que ton serveur SMTP soit ouvert à
l'extérieur. Perso, je ne le fais pas...
je le fais, et ca marche tres bien jusqu'a présent (surtout quand
wanadoo marche plus, c'est hyper pratique !)
Soit via procmail, soit directement dans exim. Je n'ai pas
installé spamassassin, mais il me semble avoir vu un truc
de ce genre sur leur site web.
j'essaye justement de mettre en place la config de stephane, mais ca
veut pas marcher ... c'est au niveau de exim que ca coince, c'est sur.
je comprends pas, le couple spamd et spamc fonctionne, j'ai testé avec
le fichier de test ...
je met mon fichier de config d'exim en piece jointe, si quelqu'un peut
m'aider ...
ls -l `which spamassassin`
serveur:~# ls -l `which spamassassin`
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root16487 avr 20 20:31
/usr/bin/spamassassin
c'est bien ce que je disait ... spamassassin n'as pas de bit setuid, il
n'y a que procmail dans la chaine qui en a ...
Bof. ÀMHA, le pb vient surtout du bit suid de spamassassin.
Qu'est-ce que ça donne sans ça ?
bah il y en a pas ... je fais comment ? je lui en met un ?
toute facon, spamassassin ne m'est plus tres utile vu que j'utilise
spamd et spamc. donc j'ai pas trop envie de m'étendre sur le probleme,
je veux juste quelque chose de fonctionnel, surtout que j'ai pas le
temps en ce moment ... meme si la philo est passée ;-)
merci a tous
grégoire
--
Si cela fonctionne, c'est obsolète.
Marshall McLuhan
# This is the main exim configuration file.
# It was originally generated by `eximconfig', part of the exim package
# distributed with Debian, but it may edited by the mail system administrator.
# This file originally generated by eximconfig at ven jan 25 23:11:15 CET 2002
# See exim info section for details of the things that can be configured here.
# Please see the manual for a complete list
# of all the runtime configuration options that can be included in a
# configuration file.
# This file is divided into several parts, all but the last of which are
# terminated by a line containing the word end. The parts must appear
# in the correct order, and all must be present (even if some of them are
# in fact empty). Blank lines, and lines starting with # are ignored.
##
#MAIN CONFIGURATION SETTINGS #
##
# General config for Spam Assassin
message_filter = /etc/exim/spam-filter
message_filter_reply_transport = spam_reply_transport
# End of General config
## Top section of config file - macro definitions
## Tailor these to fit your installation
## pretty much everything else should just fit...
##
# home dir for mailman
MAILMAN_HOME=/var/lib/mailman
# wrapper script for mailman
MAILMAN_WRAP=MAILMAN_HOME/mail/wrapper
# user and group for mailman
MAILMAN_UID=mail
MAILMAN_GID=mail
# Specify the domain you want to be added to all unqualified addresses
# here. Unqualified addresses are accepted only from local callers by
# default. See the receiver_unqualified_{hosts,nets} options if you want
# to permit unqualified addresses from remote sources. If this option is
# not set, the primary_hostname value is used for qualification.
qualify_domain = zwiffer.dyndns.org
# If you want unqualified recipient addresses to be qualified with a different
# domain to unqualified sender addresses, specify the recipient domain here.
# If this option is not set, the qualify_domain value is used.
# qualify_recipient =
# Specify your local domains as a colon-separated list here. If this option
# is not set (i.e. not mentioned in the configuration file), the
# qualify_recipient value is used as the only local domain. If you do not want
# to do any local deliveries, uncomment the following line, but do not supply
# any data for it. This sets local_domains to an empty string, which is not
# the same as not mentioning it at all. An empty string specifies that there
# are no local domains; not setting it at all causes the default value (the
# setting of qualify_recipient) to be used.
local_domains = localhost:zwiffer.dyndns.org
# Allow mail addressed to our hostname, or to our IP address.
local_domains_include_host = true
local_domains_include_host_literals = true
# Domains we relay for; that is domains that aren't considered local but we
# accept mail for them.
#relay_domains =
# If this is uncommented, we accept and relay mail for all domains we are
# in the DNS as an MX for.
#relay_domains_include_local_mx = true
# No local deliveries will ever be run under the uids of these users (a colon-
# separated list). An attempt to do so gets changed so that it runs under the
# uid of nobody instead. This is a paranoic safety catch. Note the default
# setting means you cannot deliver mail addressed to root as if it were a
#
Re: spamassassin, exim et fetchmail
Le ven 14/06/2002 à 17:12, Lam a écrit : en fait j'ai juste rajouter une ligne dans .procmailrc et deja il me met dans le rep spam presque tous les spams que je recevais : :0 fw | spamassassin -P :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes caughtspam j'ai ajouté ca dans /etc/procmailrc que va-t-il faire ? juste ajouter X-Spam-Status: yes dans les header ? a quoi correspond caughtspam ? que veux-tu dire par le rep spam ? merci grégoire -- Il est intéressant de voir que les gens qui se moquent de la science fiction se fient à la météo et aux économistes Kevin Throop III -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spamassassin, exim et fetchmail
Lam a écrit, vendredi 14 juin 2002, à 17:12 : [...] en fait j'ai juste rajouter une ligne dans .procmailrc et deja il me met dans le rep spam presque tous les spams que je recevais : :0 fw | spamassassin -P le couple client/démon spam[cd] est bien plus rapide quand on récupère son courrier par paquets. # utilise le daemon spamd :0 fw | spamc Il suffit d'ajouter le script de lancement de spamd dans /etc/init.d/ et les liens qui-vont-bien avec update-rc.d. -- Jacques L'helgoualc'h -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
