Re: the dreaded Word attachment
Chris Halls, 2002-Jun-03 21:30 +0200: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 08:37:45AM -0700, Jeff wrote: I use OpenOffice as well, but now and then I get a Word doc that crashes OpenOffice when opening. I then fire up VMWare and start Jeff, I don't have enough time to test every type of Word doc with OOo. If you are able to reliably make OOo crash, it would help us you could report how to reproduce the problem to the issuezilla at openoffice.org, if it has not already been looked at. That should help improve the quality of the next release. If a fix is reasonably small, we can apply patches to the next version of the .debs, too. Thanks, Chris Sure thing. The next time it happens I'll spend some time to do this. It only happens with certain documents. jc -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the dreaded Word attachment
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 08:37:45AM -0700, Jeff wrote: I use OpenOffice as well, but now and then I get a Word doc that crashes OpenOffice when opening. I then fire up VMWare and start Jeff, I don't have enough time to test every type of Word doc with OOo. If you are able to reliably make OOo crash, it would help us you could report how to reproduce the problem to the issuezilla at openoffice.org, if it has not already been looked at. That should help improve the quality of the next release. If a fix is reasonably small, we can apply patches to the next version of the .debs, too. Thanks, Chris pgpkLBL4hGUHm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: the dreaded Word attachment
John Griffiths, 2002-May-30 10:29 +1000: openoffice is the answer also for pdf files you want a recent veriosn of xpdf to handle the new 1.4 pdf format At 05:27 PM 5/29/02 -0700, Jim McCloskey wrote: Hello. Like others here, I suspect, I've developed over the years a little toolbox of stratagems for dealing with the Word documents that people insist on sending me. It seems to me, though, that it's proving steadily more difficult to deal with this problem. Abiword (in my experience) used to deal well with most kinds of Word documents; but in the past year or so (I assume because people are using some new version or other of Word), it fails on more and more of the ones I am sent: I use OpenOffice as well, but now and then I get a Word doc that crashes OpenOffice when opening. I then fire up VMWare and start WIN2000, go get a cup of coffee, and then open the same doc in Word without trouble. I haven't figure out what's happening yet, and this hasn't happened with Powerpoint or Excel, yet. jc -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the dreaded Word attachment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 May 2002 08:37 am, Jeff wrote: John Griffiths, 2002-May-30 10:29 +1000: openoffice is the answer also for pdf files you want a recent veriosn of xpdf to handle the new 1.4 pdf format At 05:27 PM 5/29/02 -0700, Jim McCloskey wrote: Hello. Like others here, I suspect, I've developed over the years a little toolbox of stratagems for dealing with the Word documents that people insist on sending me. It seems to me, though, that it's proving steadily more difficult to deal with this problem. Abiword (in my experience) used to deal well with most kinds of Word documents; but in the past year or so (I assume because people are using some new version or other of Word), it fails on more and more of the ones I am sent: I use OpenOffice as well, but now and then I get a Word doc that crashes OpenOffice when opening. I then fire up VMWare and start WIN2000, go get a cup of coffee, and then open the same doc in Word without trouble. I haven't figure out what's happening yet, and this hasn't happened with Powerpoint or Excel, yet. jc Quick-tip-o-the-day: Don't close your VMware session, use the pause feature, then close the window. This reduced the time from icon click to running app to a few seconds for me! tatah - -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE89695ZHBxKsta6kMRAqfnAKCG+5QYmEXlqB9V4OaV4WgqTjHM6wCg4TPs TuvrWLh1hoboECB6mhBNaPE= =oMIo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the dreaded Word attachment
In addition, the PDF and RTF outputs from Word used (it seems to me) to be fairly easy to deal with. But more and more in recent times, the PDF files that I have been sent yield errors of this sort: Error (0): PDF file is damaged - attempting to reconstruct xref table... Error (3428): Bad FCHECK in flate stream For what it's worth, Word can't create PDF files (that I know of). They're created by printing to Adobe PDFwriter *from* Word or any other app for that matter. Any problems are the fault of Adobe or in some cases, the printer driver one is using. Hall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the dreaded Word attachment
Hall Stevenson came to use his tongue on Thu, May 30, 2002 at 08:40:16AM -0400 For what it's worth, Word can't create PDF files (that I know of). They're created by printing to Adobe PDFwriter *from* Word or any other app for that matter. Any problems are the fault of Adobe or in some cases, the printer driver one is using. I guess it's a matter of the printer driver. A friend of mine often sends me pdf's he made by printing to the Adobe PDFwriter. All of them work pretty fine. Either viewed with xdpf or acroread. Frank -- $ Hello World! $ I am [Ff]rank ;) 1024D/EC4CE5CC 2002-05-14 Frank Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] fingerprint = 193D 62EC 03A5 1066 A951 4DA3 947A D578 EC4C E5CC pgpRWm7NjOc4k.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: the dreaded Word attachment
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 05:27:32PM -0700, Jim McCloskey wrote: Is this a solitary delusion of mine, or have others experienced something like this? Has anyone found a better way of dealing with this plague? Lately I've been bouncing emails with Word docs I want to read to my Yahoo Mail account, then using their view attachment feature. Works with Excel spreadsheets, too! Walt pgpZ4xVE0Y9K5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: the dreaded Word attachment
openoffice is the answer also for pdf files you want a recent veriosn of xpdf to handle the new 1.4 pdf format At 05:27 PM 5/29/02 -0700, Jim McCloskey wrote: Hello. Like others here, I suspect, I've developed over the years a little toolbox of stratagems for dealing with the Word documents that people insist on sending me. It seems to me, though, that it's proving steadily more difficult to deal with this problem. Abiword (in my experience) used to deal well with most kinds of Word documents; but in the past year or so (I assume because people are using some new version or other of Word), it fails on more and more of the ones I am sent: /usr/bin/abiword: line 73: 2207 Aborted $ABISUITE_LIBEXEC/$ABIWORD_BINARY $@ In addition, the PDF and RTF outputs from Word used (it seems to me) to be fairly easy to deal with. But more and more in recent times, the PDF files that I have been sent yield errors of this sort: Error (0): PDF file is damaged - attempting to reconstruct xref table... Error (3428): Bad FCHECK in flate stream and/or they display and print as sequences of blank pages. In addition, Ted and Abiword both seem to choke more often than they used to on the RTF files that I am sent. Is this a solitary delusion of mine, or have others experienced something like this? Has anyone found a better way of dealing with this plague? Thanks, Jim McCloskey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the dreaded Word attachment
On 29/05/02 Jim McCloskey did speaketh: Is this a solitary delusion of mine, or have others experienced something like this? Has anyone found a better way of dealing with this plague? I personally use OpenOffice to read Word docs, or I just send them back and explain that MS Word is not a standard. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED], GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 ...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort. -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix pgpSfBfhSCG1W.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: the dreaded Word attachment
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 05:27:32PM -0700, Jim McCloskey wrote: | | Hello. Like others here, I suspect, I've developed over the years a | little toolbox of stratagems for dealing with the Word documents that | people insist on sending me. | | It seems to me, though, that it's proving steadily more difficult to | deal with this problem. | Is this a solitary delusion of mine, or have others experienced | something like this? Has anyone found a better way of dealing with | this plague? This is not a delusion of yours. Here's my finding : Word : antiword is mostly decent but text-only (no fancy formatting) tables and other fancy formatting can come out royally hosed (and sometimes incomprehensible, but other times not) abiword , kword one of these three usually works enough to get by PDF : gnome-gv looks nicest, but chokes on lots of PDF constructs xpdf seems to work most (all?) of the time acroread usually can handle stuff, but I found a certain document that caused acroread to segfault (acroread on windows worked, though) | In addition, Ted and Abiword both seem to choke more often than they | used to on the RTF files that I am sent. I've heard that RTF is an open standard created by MS, but in the time since the open standard was published, MS secretively changed the format and now it really sucks. Actually, I've always had problems with RTF in Abiword (eg try creating a nice-looking resume because the co-op deparment says it must be in RTF format). Although that was about 2 years ago, and I've avoided RTF since then. HTH, -D -- A violent man entices his neighbor and leads him down a path that is not good. Proverbs 16:29 GnuPG key : http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/public_key.gpg pgpt5fiTI2zKZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
