Re: trouble installing deb 9.4

[Patrick Bartek]

On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 16:40:37 -0700
Charlie Gibbs  wrote:

> On 19/06/18 04:00 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> 
> > FWIW: I run old XP in a VM now.  Actually, it performs better than
> > running it natively.  
> 
> You too?  I also run XP in a VM, and file I/O is wonderfully fast.
> Even though XP thinks it's working with NTFS, on the metal it's
> actually a Linux file system (in my case ext4), and that gives it a
> performance edge.

Plus now XP runs better, snappier in the VM in Stretch than it did in
Wheezy. Same box. Not a lot, but enough to notice. Was somewhat
surprised with that. Wasn't a reinstall either. Just followed
VirtualBox's instructions to transfer virtual drive, etc. from Wheezy to
Stretch. No troubleshooting or tweaking needed.

B  

Re: trouble installing deb 9.4

[Charlie Gibbs]

On 19/06/18 04:00 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:


FWIW: I run old XP in a VM now.  Actually, it performs better than
running it natively.


You too?  I also run XP in a VM, and file I/O is wonderfully fast.  Even 
though XP thinks it's working with NTFS, on the metal it's actually a 
Linux file system (in my case ext4), and that gives it a performance edge.


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Re: trouble installing deb 9.4

[Patrick Bartek]

On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 19:52:32 +0200
Pascal Hambourg  wrote:

> > On Monday 18 June 2018 10:42:22 Patrick Bartek wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> >> You can't mix UEFI and MBR.  It's either one or the other.  
> 
> Actually you can. The Debian installer can boot either in legacy BIOS
> or native EFI mode. So does a Debian system when installed properly.

Good to know there's been progress.  Last time I researched this
option when installing Wheezy (5 years ago) on a multi-boot set up that
was all MBR, it was not recommended to mix-n-match. I had Windows XP as
one of the OSes, too.

That system is still alive and well though the hardware has been
upgraded numerous times, and only holds two OSes now -- Wheezy and
Stretch, it's still MBR  It was juat easier to install Stretch that
way even though I chainload it off Wheezy's grub. (I prefer to keep OS
grubs separate.) Plus, I had no real need of the features that UEFI
offers. KISS -- Keep It Simple, Stupid.

FWIW: I run old XP in a VM now.  Actually, it performs better than
running it natively.

B

Fwd: Re: trouble installing deb 9.4

[Dave]

On 6/18/18 1:52 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:

Le 18/06/2018 à 17:04, Gene Heskett a écrit :

On Monday 18 June 2018 10:42:22 Patrick Bartek wrote:


On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:56:02 -0400

Dave  wrote:

I have having trouble getting thru the first screen "UEFI
Installer". on this first menu i have full keyboard control.

Once i choose one of the Sections IE: Graphical Install, Install,
Advanced Options

once the screen switches i loose all keyboard and mouse control,


Switches to what ? Kernel boot ?


 Does your system support UEFI?


Of course it does. Otherwise the Debian installer would not boot in 
EFI mode.



You can't mix UEFI and MBR.  It's either one or the other.


Actually you can. The Debian installer can boot either in legacy BIOS 
or native EFI mode. So does a Debian system when installed properly.



I doubt it that has anything to do with it. More than likely its not
loaded enough stuff to service his usb keyboard or mouse. Might have to
plug in a real ps2 keyboard to drive it at that point.


External PS/2 devices are becoming rare these days.
I have seen this kind of behaviour on a laptop which with integrated 
PS/2 keyboard and touchpad. The PS/2 controller required an additional 
kernel parameter in order to operate properly. Sorry, I can't remember 
exactly which one, just it was i8042.something.





Is there another Fix for this other than PS/2,
Is there a particular system that will not have any problems installing
Deb 9.4 and work with USB or is there a mother board that will fix this
issue as well ?

Re: trouble installing deb 9.4

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 18/06/2018 à 17:04, Gene Heskett a écrit :

On Monday 18 June 2018 10:42:22 Patrick Bartek wrote:


On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:56:02 -0400

Dave  wrote:

I have having trouble getting thru the first screen "UEFI
Installer". on this first menu i have full keyboard control.

Once i choose one of the Sections IE: Graphical Install, Install,
Advanced Options

once the screen switches i loose all keyboard and mouse control,


Switches to what ? Kernel boot ?


 Does your system support UEFI?


Of course it does. Otherwise the Debian installer would not boot in EFI 
mode.



You can't mix UEFI and MBR.  It's either one or the other.


Actually you can. The Debian installer can boot either in legacy BIOS or 
native EFI mode. So does a Debian system when installed properly.



I doubt it that has anything to do with it. More than likely its not
loaded enough stuff to service his usb keyboard or mouse. Might have to
plug in a real ps2 keyboard to drive it at that point.


External PS/2 devices are becoming rare these days.
I have seen this kind of behaviour on a laptop which with integrated 
PS/2 keyboard and touchpad. The PS/2 controller required an additional 
kernel parameter in order to operate properly. Sorry, I can't remember 
exactly which one, just it was i8042.something.

Re: trouble installing deb 9.4

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 18 June 2018 10:42:22 Patrick Bartek wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:56:02 -0400
>
> Dave  wrote:
> > I have having trouble getting thru the first screen "UEFI
> > Installer". on this first menu i have full keyboard control.
> >
> > Once i choose one of the Sections IE: Graphical Install, Install,
> > Advanced Options
> >
> > once the screen switches i loose all keyboard and mouse control,
> > then i must reboot to get back to the UEFI screen.
> >
> >
> > please advise.
>
> Are there other OSes installed?  Are they UEFI or MBR types? Does
> your system support UEFI? You can't mix UEFI and MBR.  It's either one
> or the other.
>
I doubt it that has anything to do with it. More than likely its not 
loaded enough stuff to service his usb keyboard or mouse. Might have to 
plug in a real ps2 keyboard to drive it at that point.
> B



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Re: trouble installing deb 9.4

[Patrick Bartek]

On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:56:02 -0400
Dave  wrote:

> I have having trouble getting thru the first screen "UEFI Installer".
> on this first menu i have full keyboard control.
> 
> Once i choose one of the Sections IE: Graphical Install, Install, 
> Advanced Options
> 
> once the screen switches i loose all keyboard and mouse control, then
> i must reboot to get back to the UEFI screen.
> 
> 
> please advise.

Are there other OSes installed?  Are they UEFI or MBR types? Does
your system support UEFI? You can't mix UEFI and MBR.  It's either one
or the other.

B

Re: trouble installing deb 9.4

[HP Garcia]

On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:56:02 -0400
Dave  wrote:

> I have having trouble getting thru the first screen "UEFI Installer".
> on this first menu i have full keyboard control.
> 
> Once i choose one of the Sections IE: Graphical Install, Install, 
> Advanced Options
> 
> once the screen switches i loose all keyboard and mouse control, then
> i must reboot to get back to the UEFI screen.
> 
> 
> please advise.
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
What is your computer specs?

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