Re: user based package manager?
Wim De Smet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Most installed packages will mess $HOME more or less when compiled with > >--prefix=$HOME. Though, keep the log of `make install' may be used as an > >removing method if wanted latter. > >Is there some package manager that can be used for normal user under their > >home location? > >By which the software can be cleanly purged and so on. > >Or some extensions of checkinstall to make an simple one. > 0install(0install.net) but that's a binary system. Why don't you just > configure with --prefix=$HOME/myprograms/ or something like that? This is where the concept of "opt" comes in (for me, anyways). ./configure --prefix=$HOME/opt/anjuta ./configure --prefix=$HOME/opt/kismet etc... Then I have a "$HOME/bin" directory in my PATH, that I symlink the binaries I use frequently into. I've longed for a "userspace dpkg" type thing as well, which would install .deb's into my home directory, but unfortuantely in most cases this would be impossible without rebuilding the package from source each time... and even then, you'd need a "$HOME/var/lib/dpkg", etc etc etc... Really, there's two problems that somebody is usually trying to solve here: 1) Being able to install software as an unprivileged user... having to compile from source for absolutely everything kind of sucks, but it's about the best solution we have right now, and if you follow the "opt" convention, the "packages" are at least easy to "manage"... Of course, if you find yourself installing dependancies the same way then you end up with crazy configure lines like CPPFLAGS="-I$HOME/opt/foo/include -I$HOME/opt/bar/include" LDFLAGS="-L$HOME/opt/foo/lib -L$HOME/opt/bar/lib" ./configure --prefix=$HOME/opt/baz etc... of course, this can all be alleviated by setting up symlink directories for lib and include. And then there's the other problem, 2) Clean separation of multiple tasks on the same system. For this, I use cdebootstrap to create a chroot environment (usually something like "cdebootstrap -f standard etch /var/lib/chroot/task_name http://127.0.0.1/apt-cacher/ftp.yi.org/debian";), then chroot into there and set it up like a brand new debian system. Since almost any system I'm deploying stuff on, I'm root on, this method seems to work well. Cheers, Tyler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: user based package manager?
On 3/18/07, Jeff Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Most installed packages will mess $HOME more or less when compiled with --prefix=$HOME. Though, keep the log of `make install' may be used as an removing method if wanted latter. Is there some package manager that can be used for normal user under their home location? By which the software can be cleanly purged and so on. Or some extensions of checkinstall to make an simple one. 0install(0install.net) but that's a binary system. Why don't you just configure with --prefix=$HOME/myprograms/ or something like that? greets, Wim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: user based package manager?
Am 2007-03-19 07:51:28, schrieb Jeff Zhang:
> >dpkg/apt/aptitude are designed to install *system* packages.
> >
> >If you want to install user-specific packages, build from source.
>
>
> Yes, it is what I'm mean about things after building and installing.
You need to reverse engineer the "debhelper", e.g. "dh_manpages" which
normaly install in /usr/share/man which must be changed to /man and if
installed in the HOME it is ${HOME}/man and a standad location.
Also dpkg-buildpackage so it can extract the files into a temporary location
and then there
must be a script (in addition to "preinst" and "postinst") which move
the temporary target to $HOME.
It is possibel since I have one, but I must say: "It works for me!"
and it is not for public use. I call it tdinstall which simply create
renamed tgz archives => .tdd
Please look
Re: user based package manager?
On 3/19/07, Adam Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jeff Zhang wrote: > Most installed packages will mess $HOME more or less when compiled with > --prefix=$HOME. Though, keep the log of `make install' may be used as an > removing method if wanted latter. > Is there some package manager that can be used for normal user under their > home location? > By which the software can be cleanly purged and so on. > Or some extensions of checkinstall to make an simple one. A very good question. A fairly simple solution might be to use installwatch to monitor the installation and output a log file. Then a simple script could remove everything listed in the log file when you want to uninstall it. Sure, it is simple and could fulfill usage in some ways. :)
Re: user based package manager?
Jeff Zhang wrote: > Most installed packages will mess $HOME more or less when compiled with > --prefix=$HOME. Though, keep the log of `make install' may be used as an > removing method if wanted latter. > Is there some package manager that can be used for normal user under their > home location? > By which the software can be cleanly purged and so on. > Or some extensions of checkinstall to make an simple one. A very good question. A fairly simple solution might be to use installwatch to monitor the installation and output a log file. Then a simple script could remove everything listed in the log file when you want to uninstall it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: user based package manager?
On 3/19/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/18/07 10:48, Jeff Zhang wrote: > Most installed packages will mess $HOME more or less when compiled with > --prefix=$HOME. Though, keep the log of `make install' may be used as an > removing method if wanted latter. > Is there some package manager that can be used for normal user under their > home location? > By which the software can be cleanly purged and so on. > Or some extensions of checkinstall to make an simple one. dpkg/apt/aptitude are designed to install *system* packages. If you want to install user-specific packages, build from source. Yes, it is what I'm mean about things after building and installing.
Re: user based package manager?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/18/07 10:48, Jeff Zhang wrote: > Most installed packages will mess $HOME more or less when compiled with > --prefix=$HOME. Though, keep the log of `make install' may be used as an > removing method if wanted latter. > Is there some package manager that can be used for normal user under their > home location? > By which the software can be cleanly purged and so on. > Or some extensions of checkinstall to make an simple one. dpkg/apt/aptitude are designed to install *system* packages. If you want to install user-specific packages, build from source. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF/WUrS9HxQb37XmcRAgRjAJ4pb1d9iZZ/4xbt6kPLJmAHtK3s2wCggh73 +6E1kAeqo+1zJnH+8QMmevo= =fP3v -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
