Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On 05 Nov 2009, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites If something doesn't fit in any of the categories, put it under misc utilities. Please don't add what you haven't really used. You can include more than one entrant per category. desktop environment OR window manager: Icewm e-mail client: Mutt file manager: mc ftp client: sitecopy games: crafty image creator/editor: imagemagic, gimp image viewer: feh, gqview misc utilities: aumix, shorewall, get_iplayer, xsane, tesseract-ocr, magicfilter package manager: wajig pdf/ps-reader: xpdf spreadsheet: gnumeric terminal emulator: xterm text editor: vim video player: mplayer, vlc web browser: iceweasel, dillo word-processor: abiword, open-office SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): vim any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): Debian any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): Bram Moolenaar -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk - sample my ebooks at http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/acampbell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
hi, thanks for ur votes; unfortunately I had already posted the results since the weren't votes for about 4 days On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:16, Anthony Campbella...@acampbell.org.uk wrote: On 05 Nov 2009, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites If something doesn't fit in any of the categories, put it under misc utilities. Please don't add what you haven't really used. You can include more than one entrant per category. desktop environment OR window manager: Icewm e-mail client: Mutt file manager: mc ftp client: sitecopy games: crafty image creator/editor: imagemagic, gimp image viewer: feh, gqview misc utilities: aumix, shorewall, get_iplayer, xsane, tesseract-ocr, magicfilter package manager: wajig pdf/ps-reader: xpdf spreadsheet: gnumeric terminal emulator: xterm text editor: vim video player: mplayer, vlc web browser: iceweasel, dillo word-processor: abiword, open-office SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): vim any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): Debian any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): Bram Moolenaar -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk - sample my ebooks at http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/acampbell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
desktop environment OR window manager: KDE, Gnome, LXDE, Window Maker, Enlightenment, FVWM, FVWM2, FVWM Crystal (Yes, I do in fact use every one of those, all the time. I like having options on how my desktop will behave at any given time, and sometimes I want one that looks different like FVWM or WindowMaker.) e-mail client: GUI Based; Kmail, Novell, Sylpheed, Balsa when it used to work with comcast was awesome. Text Based; Mutt file manager: Konqueror, hatever Gnome uses nowThe one from Enlightenment. ftp client: GFTP hands down. I use it all the time games: dungeoncrawl And basically every FPS from id (DooM, DooM2, Final DooM, DooM3, Quake, Quake 2, Quake 3, Quake 4) and The UT games. image creator/editor: Gimp image viewer: kuickshow misc utilities: XMMS, zsh, Perl, Python, rxvt, Bunzip2, 7zip... package manager: Yast2, APT, PKGTOOL, Swaret I guess pdf/ps-reader: No clue terminal emulator: Eterm, Wterm, Xterm, Aterm, Konsole text editor: Emacs and Vi video player: Xine web browser: Opera, Elinks, Links, Lynx, Netscape when it was around Seamonkey word-processor: ABIword SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): LMMS! Sure would be nice if Opera and Seamonkey could be installed from apt-get ;) -- http://www.myspace.com/farmacyofhorror Digital Horror Punk - Music I make! All done with LMMS All done with Linux and FreeBSD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:17, Allengedankezaube...@comcast.net wrote: desktop environment OR window manager: KDE, Gnome, LXDE, Window Maker, Enlightenment, FVWM, FVWM2, FVWM Crystal (Yes, I do in fact use every one of those, all the time. I like having options on how my desktop will behave at any given time, and sometimes I want one that looks different like FVWM or WindowMaker.) am sure am not the only one curious how you juggle all this diversity e-mail client: GUI Based; Kmail, Novell, Sylpheed, Balsa when it used to work with comcast was awesome. Text Based; Mutt file manager: Konqueror, hatever Gnome uses nowThe one from Enlightenment. ftp client: GFTP hands down. I use it all the time games: dungeoncrawl And basically every FPS from id (DooM, DooM2, Final DooM, DooM3, Quake, Quake 2, Quake 3, Quake 4) and The UT games. so u've played all these! image creator/editor: Gimp image viewer: kuickshow misc utilities: XMMS, zsh, Perl, Python, rxvt, Bunzip2, 7zip... package manager: Yast2, APT, PKGTOOL, Swaret I guess nice one that you mention Yast2. You still using SuSE (or derivative)? pdf/ps-reader: No clue EG Evince, xpdf... terminal emulator: Eterm, Wterm, Xterm, Aterm, Konsole text editor: Emacs and Vi video player: Xine web browser: Opera, Elinks, Links, Lynx, Netscape when it was around Seamonkey Opera and Netscape should have gone to non-free word-processor: ABIword SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): LMMS! Sure would be nice if Opera and Seamonkey could be installed from apt-get ;) Iceape is Debian's unbranded version, though it currently is available only from Etch and Sid: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=iceape -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Tuesday 17 November 2009 05:51:08 am Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:17, Allengedankezaube...@comcast.net wrote: desktop environment OR window manager: KDE, Gnome, LXDE, Window Maker, Enlightenment, FVWM, FVWM2, FVWM Crystal (Yes, I do in fact use every one of those, all the time. I like having options on how my desktop will behave at any given time, and sometimes I want one that looks different like FVWM or WindowMaker.) am sure am not the only one curious how you juggle all this diversity Easy, today I felt like KDE, so I am using KDE right now to type this. If I feel like another tomorrow, I'll log back in with that one. On my FreeBSD box I'm using KDE too, and on my slackware box I have window Maker loaded. Depends which one I want to use. I like how I don't have to use one single Windowing system like in early to later version of Windows before someone made an X thing for Windows. games: dungeoncrawl And basically every FPS from id (DooM, DooM2, Final DooM, DooM3, Quake, Quake 2, Quake 3, Quake 4) and The UT games. so u've played all these! Yea. I got Unreal Tournament Game of the Year edition when it was still kinda new and loved it. I was at Radio Shack and they had a computer set up with it, and while my Mom and Aunt were shopping, I played ti and loved it, and asked the guy what it was and if they sold it, but they didn't so I went to Best Buy and picked it up, and played it a lot. Eventually, got the rest of the series as they came out. A few years ago I got DooM Collector's Edition on CD as a gift for Christmas, and it has Ultimate DooM, DooM2, And Final DooM on it, and I played for like 17 hours straight, and loved it. Even though the game was already old since this was only a few years ago, I didn't care, I loved it. And then a few years ago for my Birthday I got Quake (Paid for download) and I loved it too. I also ended up getting Quake 2 and then Quake3, and then like 4 years ago I got DooM3 and Quake 4. They're the only games I play on a computer other than Dungeoncrawl. I recently started playing it this year and I like it. package manager: Yast2, APT, PKGTOOL, Swaret I guess nice one that you mention Yast2. You still using SuSE (or derivative)? Yea I really like SUSE. It's the only big corporate friendly one I actually like. I still think that SUSE Linux 8.1 and 8.2 Professional were two of the best OSs ever released. I loved them and basically learned what I know under them. The first time I got online finally with Linux since it was a problem for me for a long time, and the first time I got sound to work in Linux was all in SUSE. It's a great distro that has help for someone new, but it isn't a distro that holds you back either once you've learned your craft. And YAST2 is probably the best system tool ever done. pdf/ps-reader: No clue EG Evince, xpdf... I knew what that was, I just didn't use many enough to list one. web browser: Opera, Elinks, Links, Lynx, Netscape when it was around Seamonkey Opera and Netscape should have gone to non-free Opera isn't listed on the Debian.org package list, and I think I found a .deb package for it, but I don't even remember where. But it wasn't on the install CDs, and wasn't on their servers. I love Opera though, it's fast and nice. Can't stand Firefox. Sure would be nice if Opera and Seamonkey could be installed from apt-get ;) Iceape is Debian's unbranded version, though it currently is available only from Etch and Sid: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=iceape I know, Seamonkey isn't Firefox though. Seamonkey is it's own thing. Firefox is a slow VERY laggy bloated browser. Seamonkey is what they probably think of when they write the brochures for their firefox crap since Seamonkey isn't slow and actually looks nice and works well. Seamonkey works way better for me, but making it work on anything isn't exactly a walk in the park since the only distro I have that actually includes it is Slackware. -- http://www.myspace.com/farmacyofhorror Digital Horror Punk - Music I make! All done with LMMS All done with Linux and FreeBSD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
Allen gedankezaube...@comcast.net wrote: And YAST2 is probably the best system tool ever done. Hmm, Yast made me want to hurt small things the last (and first) time I used it. I'm increasingly wondering that this might have been a fault at my end, since a lot of people seem to like it now. Has it improved drastically over the past six or so years? web browser: Opera, Elinks, Links, Lynx, Netscape when it was around Seamonkey Opera and Netscape should have gone to non-free Opera isn't listed on the Debian.org package list, and I think I found a .deb package for it, but I don't even remember where. But it wasn't on the install CDs, and wasn't on their servers. I love Opera though, it's fast and nice. Can't stand Firefox. Opera do have a repository of .deb packages for *buntu, and I'm pretty sure they do a Debian one. You can certainly download .debs of it from their site. Every few months I decide Opera's amazing and switch back to it, then remember how badly I get along with the search-from-the-address-bar thing. I know, Seamonkey isn't Firefox though. Seamonkey is it's own thing. Firefox is a slow VERY laggy bloated browser. Seamonkey is what they probably think of when they write the brochures for their firefox crap since Seamonkey isn't slow and actually looks nice and works well. Seamonkey works way better for me, but making it work on anything isn't exactly a walk in the park since the only distro I have that actually includes it is Slackware. There was an announcement to the effect of a new Seamonkey release a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, from what I gather (through very limited research) it looks to be Thunderbird + Firefox rather than a progression of the goodness that is Seamonkey. -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Tuesday 17 November 2009 06:31:33 am Avi Greenbury wrote: Allen gedankezaube...@comcast.net wrote: And YAST2 is probably the best system tool ever done. Hmm, Yast made me want to hurt small things the last (and first) time I used it. I'm increasingly wondering that this might have been a fault at my end, since a lot of people seem to like it now. Has it improved drastically over the past six or so years? Well, the first time I saw Yast2 was in SUSE Linux 8.1 Professional. It was good but it did have a few things that didn't seem to be what it should have been, and since I was buddies with Marcus Meissner, I told him. He's the head of SUSE Security, and when 8.2 Professional came out, I bought it right away, backed up everything, and did a fresh install. See the only machine I had at the time was the one that is now my server, a little Pentium 3 733 MHz processor with 384 MBs RAM, and I didn't have anything else. But it worked REALLY well on it. All the things in Yast2 seemed fixed in 8.2 Professional, and I really liked it. I had uptime of 205 days on that release, and this is consodering that I did EVERYTHING on that machine. Imagine that old hardware being used daily as a desktop, having SSH, FTP, and Web services running for friends, and like 4 email clients loaded all at once, and firefox and Netscape all being loaded with like literally 12 tabs in each open, and then on top of that XMMS and Gaim and, well, let's just say I had KDE with 5 Virtual Desktops, and all of them were LOADED with stuff because I did a lot with that machine. All the while a movie was playing, and no lag, and 205 days of uptime. I still remember when a Kernel update had broken my Nvidia driver and Marcus went back to the office to fix it and released a new one for me. Yast2 was REALLY nice. Even now, the new versions are nicely made, and the thing has that ability to show you what it's doing. Like Mandriva for example, if you set up a Firewall, it doesn't show you what commands it ran to do it, but Yast2 does. you can see exactly what IPTables it typed out for you. And of course Novell GPLd it. web browser: Opera, Elinks, Links, Lynx, Netscape when it was around Seamonkey Opera and Netscape should have gone to non-free Opera isn't listed on the Debian.org package list, and I think I found a .deb package for it, but I don't even remember where. But it wasn't on the install CDs, and wasn't on their servers. I love Opera though, it's fast and nice. Can't stand Firefox. Opera do have a repository of .deb packages for *buntu, and I'm pretty sure they do a Debian one. You can certainly download .debs of it from their site. Every few months I decide Opera's amazing and switch back to it, then remember how badly I get along with the search-from-the-address-bar thing. I know, Seamonkey isn't Firefox though. Seamonkey is it's own thing. Firefox is a slow VERY laggy bloated browser. Seamonkey is what they probably think of when they write the brochures for their firefox crap since Seamonkey isn't slow and actually looks nice and works well. Seamonkey works way better for me, but making it work on anything isn't exactly a walk in the park since the only distro I have that actually includes it is Slackware. There was an announcement to the effect of a new Seamonkey release a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, from what I gather (through very limited research) it looks to be Thunderbird + Firefox rather than a progression of the goodness that is Seamonkey. Yea, I haven't actually used the new version yet, I'm still using the one that shipped with Slackware 13.0, and I still love it. Firefox used to be an OK browser until they started goin on and on about how good it was and everyone started using it. Then they wanted all the features they could cram into it on there, and bloated it like a PMSing feminazi, and that's basically a description of what Firefox is now They really should concentrate more on Seamonkey. ;) -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- http://www.myspace.com/farmacyofhorror Digital Horror Punk - Music I make! All done with LMMS All done with Linux and FreeBSD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 13:59, Allengedankezaube...@comcast.net wrote: On Tuesday 17 November 2009 06:31:33 am Avi Greenbury wrote: Allen gedankezaube...@comcast.net wrote: And YAST2 is probably the best system tool ever done. Hmm, Yast made me want to hurt small things the last (and first) time I used it. I'm increasingly wondering that this might have been a fault at my end, since a lot of people seem to like it now. Has it improved drastically over the past six or so years? Well, the first time I saw Yast2 was in SUSE Linux 8.1 Professional. It was good but it did have a few things that didn't seem to be what it should have been, and since I was buddies with Marcus Meissner, I told him. He's the head of SUSE Security, and when 8.2 Professional came out, I bought it right away, backed up everything, and did a fresh install. See the only machine I had at the time was the one that is now my server, a little Pentium 3 733 MHz processor with 384 MBs RAM, and I didn't have anything else. But it worked REALLY well on it. All the things in Yast2 seemed fixed in 8.2 Professional, and I really liked it. I had uptime of 205 days on that release, and this is consodering that I did EVERYTHING on that machine. Imagine that old hardware being used daily as a desktop, having SSH, FTP, and Web services running for friends, and like 4 email clients loaded all at once, and firefox and Netscape all being loaded with like literally 12 tabs in each open, and then on top of that XMMS and Gaim and, well, let's just say I had KDE with 5 Virtual Desktops, and all of them were LOADED with stuff because I did a lot with that machine. All the while a movie was playing, and no lag, and 205 days of uptime. I still remember when a Kernel update had broken my Nvidia driver and Marcus went back to the office to fix it and released a new one for me. Yast2 was REALLY nice. Even now, the new versions are nicely made, and the thing has that ability to show you what it's doing. Like Mandriva for example, if you set up a Firewall, it doesn't show you what commands it ran to do it, but Yast2 does. you can see exactly what IPTables it typed out for you. And of course Novell GPLd it. That's some serious promotion, among the best I've ever seen. That's the definition of rock-solid! -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
desktop OR window manager: * GNOME development: * Geany, Python misc utilities: * grep, Sudo, debmirror, Lsof, less, Meld, Uptimed, wc, top, Tracker, Ex Falso, wajig, GNOME system monitor applet spreadsheet: * gnumeric terminal emulator: * GNOME Terminal text editor: * Geany non-free: * GMail * Blogger (@blogspot.com) any FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): * GNU toolchain (GCC, GLibC, Binutils), Linux, coreutils, Xorg, Apache, Mozilla (Firefox, etc.), GTK+ GLib, Qt, Latex, Perl, Python anything unreleased and highly anticipated: * HURD, APT2 anything dying/dead: * Coyotos + BitC + BitCC any organisation/community deserving great honours: * GNU, Debian, GNOME any FLOSS developer deserving great honours: * quite a few, but there's only one God, and that is Richard Stallman P.S. is this poll already dead?! -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote at 2009-11-13 08:29 -0600: anything unreleased and highly anticipated: * HURD, APT2 How could I forget?! +1 Hurd signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote at 2009-11-13 08:29 -0600: anything unreleased and highly anticipated: * HURD, APT2 How could I forget?! +1 Hurd Duke Nuke 'em Forever! I hear that the Hurd port is in the works. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Surprising to find that there's no FLOSS competitor. I thought Skype was big on popularity, not features. What's missing in what you've tried? What comes close? Interoperability with other Skype users. Nothing else provides that. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 18:42, Chrisrac...@makeworld.com wrote: web browser: Firefox (Not IceWeasel) am curious: what's wrong with Iceweasel? It fails to work in some cases where Firefox does work, due to it reporting a different User-Agent string. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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On Tuesday 10 November 2009 10:00:11 Brian Nelson wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 18:42, Chrisrac...@makeworld.com wrote: web browser: Firefox (Not IceWeasel) am curious: what's wrong with Iceweasel? It fails to work in some cases where Firefox does work, due to it reporting a different User-Agent string. I fail to see how that is the fault of Iceweasel. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. schreef: On Tuesday 10 November 2009 10:00:11 Brian Nelson wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 18:42, Chrisrac...@makeworld.com wrote: web browser: Firefox (Not IceWeasel) am curious: what's wrong with Iceweasel? It fails to work in some cases where Firefox does work, due to it reporting a different User-Agent string. I fail to see how that is the fault of Iceweasel. It isn't. Blame the sites. But for as long as the sites refuse to comply with recommendations, you can use the User Agent plugin https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 to have Iceweasel report a different User-Agent string. A long list of possible U-A strings can be found here: http://qainsight.net/content/binary/AgentStrings20070517.xml Sjoerd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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On Mon,09.Nov.09, 11:04:36, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Surprising to find that there's no FLOSS competitor. I thought Skype was big on popularity, not features. What's missing in what you've tried? What comes close? There are a number of FLOSS software phone applications. Could you please point me to one that: - works on Windows, OS X and, of course, GNU/Linux - supports webcam - can traverse NATs Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:26 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Tuesday 10 November 2009 10:00:11 Brian Nelson wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 18:42, Chrisrac...@makeworld.com wrote: web browser: Firefox (Not IceWeasel) am curious: what's wrong with Iceweasel? It fails to work in some cases where Firefox does work, due to it reporting a different User-Agent string. I fail to see how that is the fault of Iceweasel. That naturally is not Iceweasels fault. But it still means that Firefox has a significant advantage over Iceweasel because it actually works on a plethora of - admittedly crappy - websites. You might want want to have a look at the discussion on -devel about that. kind regards Wolodja signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 17:29 +0100, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: comply with recommendations, you can use the User Agent plugin https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 to have Iceweasel report a different User-Agent string. Which is a solution for some people, but a a lot of users don't care about User Agents or might not even know about Iceweasel plugins. I would welcome a new default UA that enables non tech savvy user to use Iceweasel on Debian in the same way they used Firefox on Windows. Let's not alienate these people by making it harder for them than it is already. kind regards Wolodja signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Tuesday 10 November 2009 10:46:50 Wolodja Wentland wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 17:29 +0100, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: comply with recommendations, you can use the User Agent plugin https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 to have Iceweasel report a different User-Agent string. Which is a solution for some people, but a a lot of users don't care about User Agents or might not even know about Iceweasel plugins. I would welcome a new default UA that enables non tech savvy user to use Iceweasel on Debian in the same way they used Firefox on Windows. Let's not alienate these people by making it harder for them than it is already. Debian has two choices: 1. Use the same user-agent as Firefox. 2. Use a different user-agent from Firefox. The first is a non-option. Iceweasel does not follow Mozilla's trademark usage guidelines. If it uses the Firefox trademark and Debian distributes it, Debian could be sued into non-existence. The second results is false negatives from websites that use the user-agent to determine your browser's features. (This has been recommended against for as long as there have been user-agent strings.) Iceweasel has all the features the website requires, but the website still degrades your experience or refuses to operate at all. There are a number of ways individual users can affect their user-agent string, if they so desire. On the rare occasions I use IceWeasel, (I prefer Konqueror) I proudly identify as Iceweasel and not Firefox. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. writes: Debian has two choices: 1. Use the same user-agent as Firefox. 2. Use a different user-agent from Firefox. 3. Use a Debian user-agent string that includes the string Firefox. See, for example, the user-agent strings used by every other browser on the planet. The first is a non-option. Iceweasel does not follow Mozilla's trademark usage guidelines. If it uses the Firefox trademark and Debian distributes it, Debian could be sued into non-existence. Nonsense. There is no conceivable way that embedding the string Firefox in a user-agent string could be construed as trademark infringement (and if there was most browsers would be infringing one or more trademarks). -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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John Hasler wrote: The first is a non-option. Iceweasel does not follow Mozilla's trademark usage guidelines. If it uses the Firefox trademark and Debian distributes it, Debian could be sued into non-existence. Nonsense. There is no conceivable way that embedding the string Firefox in a user-agent string could be construed as trademark infringement (and if there was most browsers would be infringing one or more trademarks). If this were a trademark, how about these files: $ dpkg -L iceweasel | grep firef /usr/share/iceweasel/defaults/preferences/firefox.js /usr/share/iceweasel/defaults/preferences/firefox-l10n.js /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox /usr/bin/firefox /usr/share/man/man1/firefox.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/mozilla-firefox.1.gz /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox.png /usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-firefox.png /usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin Also, iceweasel stores its settings in ~/.mozilla/firefox. And I guess there are many other places where firefox appears in the Iceweasel bundle, and this is not a copyright infringement, just like setting the User-Agent to the same that Firefox does it not a copyright infringement. -- Cats, no less liquid than their shadows, offer no angles to the wind. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Tuesday 10 November 2009 10:46:50 Wolodja Wentland wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 17:29 +0100, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: comply with recommendations, you can use the User Agent plugin https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 to have Iceweasel report a different User-Agent string. Which is a solution for some people, but a a lot of users don't care about User Agents or might not even know about Iceweasel plugins. I would welcome a new default UA that enables non tech savvy user to use Iceweasel on Debian in the same way they used Firefox on Windows. Let's not alienate these people by making it harder for them than it is already. Debian has two choices: 1. Use the same user-agent as Firefox. 2. Use a different user-agent from Firefox. The first is a non-option. Iceweasel does not follow Mozilla's trademark usage guidelines. If it uses the Firefox trademark and Debian distributes it, Debian could be sued into non-existence. I don't see how the UA string would be related to the Firefox trademark. Besides, there's a lng history of browsers declaring themselves to be other competing browsers via the UA string, with no lawsuits ever resulting. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Eduardo M KALINOWSKI writes: Also, iceweasel stores its settings in ~/.mozilla/firefox. And I guess there are many other places where firefox appears in the Iceweasel bundle, and this is not a copyright infringement, just like setting the User-Agent to the same that Firefox does it not a copyright infringement. You confound copyright and trademark. They are very different, at least in the USA. Words such as Firefox are not subject to copyright. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:20:50 +0200 Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon,09.Nov.09, 11:04:36, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Surprising to find that there's no FLOSS competitor. I thought Skype was big on popularity, not features. What's missing in what you've tried? What comes close? There are a number of FLOSS software phone applications. Could you please point me to one that: - works on Windows, OS X and, of course, GNU/Linux - supports webcam - can traverse NATs I've had much trouble with all Linux VoIP clients that I've tried. My test for usability is fairly simple: successfully make a call to the Ekiga echo test number (sip:5...@ekiga.net), and hear the recorded audio and get the echoed A/V. Currently, Ekiga (the client) works, but I could not get any other client to do so. [I'm behind NAT.] Many don't connect, giving more or less (generally less) cryptic explanations as to why, and one (Linphone, IIRC) claims that it has connected, but doesn't show any A/V. Googling shows that many clients have trouble with the Ekiga.net server's implementation of some protocol, but I've also tried registering with iptel.org; while some clients do better with it, at least allowing me to successfully register, which they wouldn't do with Ekiga.net, I still have yet to successfully make a call with anything but Ekiga. It addition to SIP, I also tried the A/V functionality of XMPP. The only client that I could find that claims to currently support A/V over XMPP is Pidgin; I tried it, but it reproducibly segfaults whenever I send or receive a call: http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/10697 VoIP on linux seems to currently be pretty badly broken / unimplemented. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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John Hasler wrote: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI writes: Also, iceweasel stores its settings in ~/.mozilla/firefox. And I guess there are many other places where firefox appears in the Iceweasel bundle, and this is not a copyright infringement, just like setting the User-Agent to the same that Firefox does it not a copyright infringement. You confound copyright and trademark. They are very different, at least in the USA. Words such as Firefox are not subject to copyright. s/copyright/trademark/g in my message then. I believe it remains valid even when mentioning trademark infringements. -- Men aren't attracted to me by my mind. They're attracted by what I don't mind... -- Gypsy Rose Lee Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 13:48, Dotan Cohendotanco...@gmail.com wrote: instant messenger: skype (not floss? so make something this good in floss!) Surprising to find that there's no FLOSS competitor. I thought Skype was big on popularity, not features. What's missing in what you've tried? What comes close? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 15:04, Aioanei Raresdebian.dev.l...@gmail.com wrote: non-free:flash :( Are you referring to the browser-plugin? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 18:42, Chrisrac...@makeworld.com wrote: web browser: Firefox (Not IceWeasel) am curious: what's wrong with Iceweasel? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 13:46, Frank Lin PIATfp...@klabs.be wrote: - Anonymous contributors can I liken this to one-time patch senders? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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On Monday 09 November 2009 05:05:52 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 13:48, Dotan Cohendotanco...@gmail.com wrote: instant messenger: skype (not floss? so make something this good in floss!) Surprising to find that there's no FLOSS competitor. I thought Skype was big on popularity, not features. What's missing in what you've tried? What comes close? There are a number of FLOSS software phone applications. None can make calls to Skype users that are using the Skype proprietary application over the Skype proprietary protocol. The information needed to implement such features is not available in a form that can be used to develop FLOSS. For those that want a FLOSS Skype, the choice is clear: Boycott Skype (hurting their popularity; which makes FLOSS software phones more attractive) until they open their protocols (which will allow FLOSS software phones to participate in the Skype network.) Those skilled in the art of reverse engineering could also use that skill against the software and protocol, but many do not have this option. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 14:10 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 13:46, Frank Lin PIATfp...@klabs.be wrote: - Anonymous contributors can I liken this to one-time patch senders? I was thinking of people who silently contribute to open-source softwares, and whose names don't appear in changelog, copyright or AUTHOR files... despite their valuable contribution. (think people who belong to teams of developers, etc) Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 01:05:52PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 13:48, Dotan Cohendotanco...@gmail.com wrote: instant messenger: skype (not floss? so make something this good in floss!) Surprising to find that there's no FLOSS competitor. I thought Skype was big on popularity, not features. What's missing in what you've tried? What comes close? I recently started using Ekiga and I like it. I used it primarily to call land lines when traveling. For that I needed to sign up with a provider -- I used Ekiga's recommended one: diamondcard.us. Their rates are lower than Skype's (for calling within the USA, anyway). -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 15:56 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites If something doesn't fit in any of the categories, put it under misc utilities. Please don't add what you haven't really used. You can include more than one entrant per category. I often have more than one entry, because I don't use when I am home, at work or on the go. audio editor: none audio player: ncmpc/gmpc / rythmbox cd-ripper: which ever is the default in Gnome. DBMS: mysql (and sqlite) desktop environment OR window manager: gnome development: vim disc burner: wodim e-mail client: evolution + squirrelmail file manager: mc + nautilus finance: ftp client: mc (midnight commander) / wget games: image creator/editor: gimp inkscape image viewer: gthumb eog instant messenger: irssi / xchat mathematics: misc utilities: p2p: package manager: aptitude, dpkg pdf/ps-reader: evince spreadsheet: openoffice terminal emulator: gnome-terminal ; screen text editor: vim video player: totem web browser: iceweasel word-processor: you mean the legacy tool invented in the 80s? openoffice non-free: aptitude search ?Section(non-free) ~i -F %p firmware-iwlwifi firmware-linux-nonfree intel-microcode make-doc tar-doc ttf-xfree86-nonfree unrar w3-recs SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: - Squeeze, what else? (especially Debian GNU/kFreeBSD) - Some docbook viewers (CLI and GUI) anything dying/dead: - info pages anything deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): gpg any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): Debian, Freedesktop, opensource.org... any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): - Maintainers of components that no one notices (libraries, simple and so call standard utilities...) - Anonymous contributors Regards, Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Frank Lin PIAT wrote at 2009-11-08 05:46 -0600: On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 15:56 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: anything unreleased and highly anticipated: - Squeeze, what else? (especially Debian GNU/kFreeBSD) Of course, how did I forget that? +1 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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audio editor: audicity audio player: amarok cd-ripper: DBMS: desktop environment OR window manager: KDE 4 development: Kate disc burner: K3B e-mail client: Thunderbird file manager: Dolphin finance: ftp client: Konqueror games: image creator/editor: gimp image viewer: digikam instant messenger: skype (not floss? so make something this good in floss!) mathematics: maxima misc utilities: Zim (desktop wiki), Anki (flashcards) p2p: ktorrent package manager: apt-get pdf/ps-reader: okular spreadsheet:calc terminal emulator:konsole text editor:kate video player:vlc web browser:firefox word-processor:writer non-free: Solidworks CAD SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: Anki, still at version 0.9.x anything dying/dead: KDE 3.5.10 anything deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): Zim desktop wiki and Anki. These two programs literally change the way I handle information. any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): KDE. KDE 4 is not yet up to the level of refinement of KDE 3, but it is getting there quickly. any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): Aaron Siego of KDE, Jaap of Zim, Damien of Anki. Although Anne Wilson is not a dev, she holds the KDE community together and deserves honours for that. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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On 2009-11-05 20:53 (+0200), Teemu Likonen wrote: word-processor: OpenOffice.org Writer Hmm, I wonder why did I write that. In practice I use Emacs + LaTeX. I use OOo Writer only for viewing documents made by others. -- Feel free to Cc me your replies if you want to make sure I'll notice them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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audio player: rhythmbox desktop environment OR window manager: Gnome disc burner: K3B e-mail client: Kmail, Balsa file manager: Krusader, Gnome-Commander ftp client: wget games: UrbanTerror the Wine and Zsnes emulators misc utilities: fdupes p2p: mldonkey (mlnet) package manager: Synaptics terminal emulator: gnome-terminal text editor: gjots video player: VLC word-processor: ooo Writer SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: a new version of mldonkey (mlnet) anything deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): Gnome Partition Editor, qemu/kvm any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): GNU, FSF, Debian any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless Richard M. Stallman -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Greetings, audio editor: Audicity audio player: Rythmbox, Amarok (up to 1.4 - 2.x just blows) cd-ripper: SoundJuicer DBMS: desktop environment OR window manager: Gnome development: disc burner: Brasero e-mail client: Claws-Mail file manager: Nautilus finance: ftp client: Gftp, Filezilla games: image creator/editor: Gimp image viewer: Picasa instant messenger: Pidgin mathematics: misc utilities: Rdiff-Backup p2p: Transmission package manager: apt-get, synaptic pdf/ps-reader: Adobe spreadsheet: OOO calc terminal emulator: Terminator text editor: Pico/Nano video player: VLC web browser: Firefox (Not IceWeasel) word-processor: OOO Writer non-free: SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: anything dying/dead: anything deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): Clonezilla any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): Debian, GNU, FSF any FLOSS developer deserving great honours: All the Debian developers and package maintainers. -- Best regards, Chris () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments There's no place like 127.0.0.1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Oh well, why not ;) audio editor: audacity audio player: mplayer desktop environment OR window manager: stumpwm disc burner: wodim e-mail client: emacs gnus file manager: emacs dired finance: emacs orgmode (will try ledger someday) ftp client: wget image viewer: gqview instant messenger: bitlbee + emacs erc p2p: rtorrent package manager: aptitude pdf/ps-reader: xpdf terminal emulator: rxvt text editor: emacs video player: mplayer web browser: conkeror word-processor: emacs + latex, oowriter any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): Debian of course ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 03:56:48PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites If something doesn't fit in any of the categories, put it under misc utilities. Please don't add what you haven't really used. You can include more than one entrant per category. audio editor: udacity audio player: mocp cd-ripper: abcde DBMS: sqlite desktop environment OR window manager: Windomaker development: git disc burner: from command line... (gui.. perhaps k3b) e-mail client: mutt file manager: thunar finance: a python script development by myself.. ftp client: lftp games: nethack image creator/editor: gimp, inkscape image viewer: gqview, imgseek instant messenger: i use irssi to IRC mathematics: emacs calc misc utilities: screen p2p: ktorrent package manager: apt-get.. 'apt-put' xD pdf/ps-reader: xpdf terminal emulator: xterm text editor: emacs video player: mplayer web browser: arora word-processor: mmm, openoffice SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything dying/dead: bitchX anything deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): emacs any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): Debian -- Porqué loitar e matar, se podes amar e sonhar /\ \ / CAMPANHA DA FITA ASCII - CONTRA MAIL HTML X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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11/05/2009 04:56 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe:: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites If something doesn't fit in any of the categories, put it under misc utilities. Please don't add what you haven't really used. You can include more than one entrant per category. I am not going to list, but give my global criteria: When I use Gnome (My wife does) I try to install only gnomelib or GTK based softwares. When I use KDE, I try to use Qt and kdelibs based software. I really enjoy to be homogeneous. :-) And fortunately, there is an emacs-gtk package :-) -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche Developpement +261 33 11 207 36 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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On 2009-11-05 15:56 (+0200), Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: audio player: Amarok cd-ripper: abcde desktop environment OR window manager: KDE development: Emacs disc burner: k3b e-mail client: Emacs (Gnus) file manager: Konqueror ftp client: lftp mathematics: Emacs (Calc) misc utilities: Git (version control tool) package manager: aptitude pdf/ps-reader: Kpdf terminal emulator: GNU Screen inside XTerm text editor: Emacs video player: MPlayer web browser: Iceweasel word-processor: OpenOffice.org Writer any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): Debian The Linux kernel development community and companies -- Feel free to Cc me your replies if you want to make sure I'll notice them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe tshep...@gmail.com writes: audio player: amarok cd-ripper: abcde desktop environment OR window manager: KDE4 development: emacs disc burner: k3b e-mail client: Kontact finance: kmymoney image viewer: gwenview instant messenger: kopete misc utilities: grep p2p: ktorrent pdf/ps-reader: okular terminal emulator: yakuake text editor: emacs video player: kmplayer web browser: konqueror/firefox -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 03:56:48PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites If something doesn't fit in any of the categories, put it under misc utilities. Please don't add what you haven't really used. You can include more than one entrant per category. audio editor: audacity audio player: mpd/mpc cd-ripper: DBMS: postgres desktop environment OR window manager: xmonad development: emacs w/ flymake or eclipse for java when I have to do that. disc burner: e-mail client: mutt file manager: bash (heh) finance: gnucash ftp client: sftp games: Wesnoth image creator/editor: gimp image viewer: display (imagemajick) instant messenger: irssi w/ irssi-plugin-xmpp mathematics: octave misc utilities: too many to count p2p: package manager: aptitude pdf/ps-reader: xpdf spreadsheet: oocalc terminal emulator: rxvt-unicode text editor: emacs video player: mplayer web browser: iceweasel word-processor: emacs for latex, oowriter for occasional stuff non-free: SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: anything dying/dead: anything deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): the uncelebrated random user that sends in the one-line patch to fix their personally most annoying bug. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:56:48 +0200 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe tshep...@gmail.com shared this with us all: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites If something doesn't fit in any of the categories, put it under misc utilities. Please don't add what you haven't really used. You can include more than one entrant per category. audio player: Totem desktop environment OR window manager: FVWM disc burner: K3B e-mail client: Claws-mail file manager: Midnight Commander image creator/editor: The Gimp image viewer: GQView mathematics: LyX misc utilities: package manager: Aptitude - Apt - Synaptics pdf/ps-reader: Xpdf - Okular spreadsheet: OpenOffice.org terminal emulator: Xterm text editor: Gedit video player: Totem web browser: Iceweasel word-processor: LyX non-free: SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: anything dying/dead: anything deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): Debian - Gnu any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 . If thou are a master, be sometimes blind; if a servant, sometimes deaf. ...Thomas Fuller . Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Andrew Sackville-West wrote at 2009-11-05 15:33 -0600: On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 03:56:48PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): the uncelebrated random user that sends in the one-line patch to fix their personally most annoying bug. Indeed! :) +1 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:56:48 +0200 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe tshep...@gmail.com wrote: ... audio editor: audio player: [g]mplayer cd-ripper: DBMS: desktop environment OR window manager: xfce[4] development: perl disc burner: e-mail client: sylpheed file manager: mc finance: ftp client: ncftp games: wesnoth image creator/editor: image viewer: mirage instant messenger: xchat, gajim mathematics: misc utilities: recoll, rsnapshot, rdiff-backup p2p: package manager: aptitude pdf/ps-reader: evince spreadsheet: terminal emulator: xfce-terminal text editor: geany, bluefish, mousepad, vi video player: [g]mplayer web browser: iceweasel, links2 word-processor: oowriter non-free: Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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I see the poll has cooled and in that case I'll post my own favourites. It's still open if you there's any late entries, and I will post the results early next week. Here goes: desktop OR window manager: * GNOME development: * Geany, Python, GTK2 misc utilities: * grep, Sudo, debmirror, Lsof, less, Meld, Uptimed, sort, wc, top, svn, Tracker, File Roller, rc-alert (from devscripts), Ex Falso, GNOME system monitor applet package manager: * Wajig spreadsheet: * Gnumeric terminal emulator: * GNOME Terminal text editor: * Scribes, nano non-free: * GMail * Blogger (@blogspot.com) any FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): * GNU toolchain (GCC, GLibC, Binutils), Linux, coreutils, Xorg, GTK+GLib, Qt, Apache, Latex, Perl, Python anything unreleased and highly anticipated: * HURD, Coyotos + BitC + BitCC any organisation/community deserving great honours: * GNU, Debian, GNOME, Fedora any FLOSS developer deserving great honours: * quite a few, but there's only one God, and that is Richard Stallman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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audio editor: Audacity audio player: amarok cd-ripper: Konqueror desktop OR window manager: KDE DBMS: MySQL development: quanta disc burner: k3b e-mail client: icedove file manager: Konqueror, mc, Krusader finance: ftp client: Konqueror games: KTeaTime image editor:GIMP image viewer:Gwenview, Kuickshow instant messenger: mathematics: misc utilities: p2p:amule package manager:Synaptics pdf-reader:Kpdf spreadsheet:OpenOffice tag editor: easyTAG terminal emulator: Konsole text editor:Kate, nano video player:VLC web browser:Iceweasel word-processor:OpenOffice non-free:Skype -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:22:33 +1300 Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 02:45:39AM -0500, Celejar wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:20:02 +1300 Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:25:43AM -0500, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:18:26 +0200 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] video player: [G]mplayer You know gmplayer is broken, right? Compare 'top' with both for the same movie. Note the CPU usage. On a couple of movies I had lying around, I saw several percent higher CPU utilization for gmplayer. i.e. something like 9 - 11% for mplayer, and 12 - 14% for gmplayer. I suppose that that would be a reason to How long did you watch it for? On the box where I noticed the anomaly, it was sitting at 99% whereas mplayer samemovie sat at around 14%. A google search confirmed that gmplayer was the cause. There are other GUI frontends but I've never looked at them. I have not seen anything like this with the files I have tried (youtube .flv videos mostly). Chris. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 01:10:10AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon,17.Nov.08, 09:14:17, Anthony Campbell wrote: The only computer game I ever play. I just wish I could win against Crafty one day. Have a look a dreamchess -- a lot easier to beat. What are your settings? My father plays chess using eboard with the crafty engine (which is non-free BTW) and does win sometimes. Is he a grandmaster? What are his settings? -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat,22.Nov.08, 02:47:49, Chris Bannister wrote: What are your settings? My father plays chess using eboard with the crafty engine (which is non-free BTW) and does win sometimes. Is he a grandmaster? What are his settings? The smallest I could get (something like 1 s/move), but forgot to mention it's on an old system (PII-333). Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
2008/11/13 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: audio editor: ffmpeg/audacity audio player: rhythmbox cd-ripper: Gnome's default (sound juicer, I think) desktop OR window manager: Gnome with Compiz DBMS: None development: Emacs and GNU tools disc burner: Gnome's default (Nautilus, I think), k3b for advanced things. e-mail client: None (Gmail) file manager: Nautilus and bash. Gnome-do can almost replace both. finance: None. ftp client: Web browser (usually Iceweasel) games: Wesnoth, Nexuiz, Hexahop. image editor: Gimp image viewer: eog instant messenger: Kopete mathematics: Octave, Maxima, TeXmacs, LaTeX, AUCTeX, Emacs, GNU Scientific Library, gnuplot, Octaviz, Singular, surf misc utilities: Emacs p2p: Ktorrent package manager: aptitude pdf-reader: evince and okular spreadsheet: none tag editor: tagtool terminal emulator: gnome-terminal and konsole text editor: emacs video player: totem and vlc web browser: iceweasel word-processor: none (but will use OO.o when I have to open those email attachments) non-free: adobe flash player (but keep trying gnash and swfdec) iwlwifi-firmware GFDL, according to Debian. SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: gnash and swfdec are released, but I want them to get better! anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): Emacs and Firefox, and all of their infinite configurations and addons. Compiz for similar reasons. any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): DDs and Ubuntu devs. Sourceforge network ops. any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): John W. Eaton (Octave lead dev) William Stein (Sage lead dev) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gmplayer - no good (was Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?)
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 02:45:39AM -0500, Celejar wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:20:02 +1300 Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:25:43AM -0500, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:18:26 +0200 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] video player: [G]mplayer You know gmplayer is broken, right? Compare 'top' with both for the same movie. Note the CPU usage. On a couple of movies I had lying around, I saw several percent higher CPU utilization for gmplayer. i.e. something like 9 - 11% for mplayer, and 12 - 14% for gmplayer. I suppose that that would be a reason to How long did you watch it for? On the box where I noticed the anomaly, it was sitting at 99% whereas mplayer samemovie sat at around 14%. A google search confirmed that gmplayer was the cause. There are other GUI frontends but I've never looked at them. use mplayer, assuming that all the controls are the same. You can map commands to keys in your mplayer rc file, but I tend to just use '.' or 'p' for pause, 'f' for full screen, and 'q' for quit. -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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audio editor: audio player: moc, mplayer, audacious cd-ripper: jack desktop OR window manager: Xfce4 DBMS: development: disc burner: k3b e-mail client: mutt file manager: mc finance: ftp client: games: image editor: image viewer: gpicview instant messenger: pidgin mathematics: misc utilities: screen, ssh, git p2p: ktorrent, rtorrent package manager: aptitude pdf-reader: epdfview spreadsheet: gnumeric tag editor: terminal emulator: urxvt text editor: vim video player: mplayer web browser: iceweasel, links2, midori word-processor: latex, abiword non-free: nvidia SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: Lenny anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): wine any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): Debian any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): Too many to list Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 14:18 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: audio editor: audio player: Amarok cd-ripper: desktop OR window manager: Gnome for life DBMS: development: disc burner: cdrecord e-mail client: evolution file manager: nautilus finance: ftp client: ftp,pftp,ftp-ssl games: Mahjongg eats my soul. UrbanTerror (ioTerror) image editor: image viewer: eog (just works) instant messenger: pidgin mathematics: misc utilities: p2p: Still gotta be azureus. I have to have tracker control. package manager: aptitude pdf-reader: evince spreadsheet: tag editor: terminal emulator: text editor: vim ftw video player: vlc web browser: FF3 word-processor: non-free: SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 14:18 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: audio editor: Audacity Xcfa Debian-multimedia.org, http://xcfa.tuxfamily.org/presentation.html audio player: Amarok cd-ripper: K3B desktop OR window manager: KDE3 DBMS: development: disc burner: K3B e-mail client: Icedove Mutt file manager: Konqueror (what's that Dolphin anyway ?) finance: ftp client: Filezilla games: Grhino Armagetronad Neverball image editor: Gimp Hugin Rawstudio image viewer: Digikam XSane (scanning utility) instant messenger: Kopete Ekiga mathematics: misc utilities: Guvcview : GTK viewer for uvcvideo compatible devices (webcam). Not packaged yet for Debian http://guvcview.berlios.de/ Find Swat mt-daapd (Firefly) p2p: Ktorrent2 Azureus package manager: Aptitude pdf-reader: Kpdf Xpdf spreadsheet: tag editor: terminal emulator: Yakuake Konsole text editor: nano kate video player: VLC SMplayer video editor: Cinelerra (Debian-multimedia.org) OpenMovieEditor Avidemux dvd ripping: K9copy web browser: Iceweasel 3 word-processor: Ooo3 Writer Education: Tuxpaint Gcompris Stellarium non-free: Flash-plugin Skype SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: Lumiera : a non linear video editor based on cinelerra cv code http://lumiera.org/index.html Hum, Debian Lenny ? anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): I like the education and information http://linuxfr.org/news/ is doing in my country. (that's in French) any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): A big thank you to Christian Marillat @ Debian-multimedia.org, it would have been very difficult for me to stick with Debian without his work. An enormous thank you to all Debian devs, especially those currently sweating over the nasty Lenny RC bugs ! Kill'em all ! -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 11/13/08 06:18, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: audio editor: audacity, sweep audio player: moc, audacious, ascd audio internet streams: Streamtuner cd-ripper: mp3c desktop OR window manager: fluxbox DBMS: none development: Perl disc burner: gnome baker, mp3burn e-mail client: mutt, procmail, msmtp, getmail file manager: mc (midnight commander) finance: none ftp client: none games: none graphics general: Inkscape, Tgif, Xfig image editor: gimp image viewer: gqview instant messenger: none mathematics: none misc utilities: too many to list p2p: none package manager: aptitude pdf-reader: xpdf, evince ps reader: gv spreadsheet: none tag editor: none terminal emulator: Rxvt-unicode text editor: emacs, aee video player: mplayer, vlc web browser: Epiphany, Iceweasel, links2 word-processor: AbiWord, OpenOffice Writer document processor: Lyx non-free: flash player. -- Alexander J.M. Linux 2.6.26-1-686 i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gmplayer - no good (was Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?)
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:20:02 +1300 Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:25:43AM -0500, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:18:26 +0200 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] video player: [G]mplayer You know gmplayer is broken, right? Compare 'top' with both for the same movie. Note the CPU usage. On a couple of movies I had lying around, I saw several percent higher CPU utilization for gmplayer. i.e. something like 9 - 11% for mplayer, and 12 - 14% for gmplayer. I suppose that that would be a reason to use mplayer, assuming that all the controls are the same. Chris. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 17 Nov 2008, Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 06:10:14PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 13 Nov 2008, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: desktop OR window manager: icewm ftp client: sitecopy games: crafty Chess ... a game? ... :( -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. The only computer game I ever play. I just wish I could win against Crafty one day. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:18 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: audio editor: Audacity audio player: xmms2, Amarok (for making playlists, services) cd-ripper: sound juicer desktop OR window manager: Awesome 3.0 DBMS: development: vim disc burner: k3b e-mail client: gmail file manager: bash, sometimes konqueror finance: ftp client: games: frozen bubble image editor: gimp image viewer: gthumb instant messenger: irssi-xmpp, irssi mathematics: wcalc misc utilities: git, screen, ssh, p2p: rtorrent package manager: aptitude pdf-reader: evince-gtk spreadsheet:OO.o Calc/KSpread tag editor: terminal emulator: urxvt text editor: vim (considering emacs with viper, though) video player: mplayer web browser: Mozilla 1.9.1 aka SeaMonkey 2.0 word-processor: vim/OO.o Writer/KWord non-free: Quake 3, Starcraft web framework: ikiwiki SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: Xorg with Kernel Mode Setting, Gallium3d and DRI2 anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): Linux kernel, Xorg, git any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): FSF any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): Linus Torvals, Richard Stallman, Joey Hess, Aaron Siego, Keith Packard Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 11/13/08 06:18, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to
add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used
(like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and
there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories:
audio editor: none
audio player: aqualung
cd-ripper: abcde
desktop OR window manager: GNOME
DBMS:
development: Python
disc burner: DVD: DeVeDe, makedvd. CD: Brasero
e-mail client: Icedove
file manager: bash
finance: none
ftp client: What's ftp?
games: PySol, nethack-x
image editor: gimp
image viewer: gqview
instant messenger: *none*
mathematics: none
misc utilities:
p2p: none
package manager: apt-{get, cache}
pdf-reader: none
spreadsheet: sc, gnumeric, Calc
tag editor: none
terminal emulator: rxvt
text editor: vim
video player: mplayer, vlc
web browser: Iceweasel, links2
word-processor: AbiWord, Writer
non-free: acroread, flash player.
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On Mon,17.Nov.08, 09:14:17, Anthony Campbell wrote: The only computer game I ever play. I just wish I could win against Crafty one day. What are your settings? My father plays chess using eboard with the crafty engine (which is non-free BTW) and does win sometimes. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 06:10:14PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 13 Nov 2008, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: desktop OR window manager: icewm ftp client: sitecopy games: crafty Chess ... a game? ... :( -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gmplayer - no good (was Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?)
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:25:43AM -0500, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:18:26 +0200 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] video player: [G]mplayer You know gmplayer is broken, right? Compare 'top' with both for the same movie. Note the CPU usage. -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: audio editor: audacity audio player: xmms cd-ripper: kaudiocreator desktop OR window manager: kde DBMS: mysql development: lazarus, quanta+ disc burner: k3b e-mail client: icedove/thunderbird, mutt file manager: zsh, star commander in some rare cases finance: ftp client: whatever makes the job done (ftp, browser, mc, etc.) games: nethack, frozen bubble, freedroid image editor: gimp image viewer: display/image magick instant messenger: kopete mathematics: misc utilities: 7zip p2p: bittornado package manager: aptitude pdf-reader: kpdf spreadsheet: gnumeric tag editor: terminal emulator: konsole text editor: nano video player: xine web browser: iceweasel/firefox word-processor: open office writer anything unreleased and highly anticipated: Debian Lenny (as stable) anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): cc65 any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): gnu, debian, apache, mysql, postgresql, vice any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): Joe Forster/STA, the author of Star Commander, Igor Pavlov, the author of 7-Zip -- Juha Tuuna -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:18:26 +0200 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: audio player: cd-ripper: grip desktop OR window manager: ion3 DBMS: mysql development: emacs disc burner: cdrecord, k3b e-mail client: claws-mail file manager: ls, thunar finance: ftp client: ftp, gftp-text games: ksirtet when I used yet kde image editor: gimp image viewer: display instant messenger: psi/skype mathematics: misc utilities: p2p: deluge package manager: apt, aptitude, dpkg pdf-reader: epdfview spreadsheet: gnumeric tag editor: terminal emulator: urxvt text editor: emacs video player: mplayer web browser: firefox word-processor: abiword or openoffice.org non-free: SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): Postfix any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): Debian any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): Wietse Venema -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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audio player: xmms2, amarok cd-ripper: desktop OR window manager: openbox, xfce4 DBMS: mysql development: g++, python disc burner: k3b e-mail client: mutt file manager: thunar finance: (there is not floss named bailout unfortunately AFAIK) ftp client: lftp games: xmoto image editor: gimp image viewer: qiv instant messenger: finch mathematics: R, python, maxima misc utilities: screen, dvtm, remind, wyrd p2p: amule, deluge package manager: apt pdf-reader: xpdf, kpdf spreadsheet: oocalc tag editor: terminal emulator: urxvt text editor: vim video player: mplayer web browser: iceweasel word-processor: latex non-free: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 14:18:26 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: audio editor: audacity audio player: kaffeine cd-ripper: desktop OR window manager: kde DBMS: development: disc burner: k3b e-mail client: mutt file manager: ls, konqueror finance: ftp client: lftp games: image editor: showfoto, gimp image viewer: showfoto, gpicview instant messenger: mathematics: misc utilities: p2p: package manager: aptitude pdf-reader: kpdf spreadsheet: OpenOffice tag editor: terminal emulator: konsole text editor: vim, kwrite video player: kaffeine video editor: avidemux video (other) : devede, projectx, mplex web browser: iceweasel, opera word-processor: OpenOffice non-free: SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): Martin Michlmayr, Rod Whitby, Joey Hess and all involved with NSLU2/ARM/ARMEL. -- Bob Cox. Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK. Debian on the NSLU2: http://bobcox.com/slug/ Registered user #445000 with the Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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audio editor: audio player: sonata+mpd cd-ripper: sound-juicer desktop OR window manager: GNOME DBMS: development: disc burner: Brasero e-mail client: Thunderbird/Icedove file manager: Nautilus/bash finance: ftp client: wget/Nautilus games: image editor: Gimp image viewer: Eye of GNOME instant messenger: Empathy/irssi for IRC mathematics: misc utilities: p2p: package manager: aptitude pdf-reader: Document viewer spreadsheet: OpenOffice Calc tag editor: terminal emulator: rxvt-unicode text editor: emacs video player: vlc/mplayer web browser: firefox/iceweasel word-processor: OpenOffice.org non-free: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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John Hasler wrote: machiner writes: what's your favourite FLOSS? I've been using some Johnson Johnson Reach brand that the dentist gave me recently, but I think that the Equate stuff from Walmart is just as good. I guess I don't have a favorite. I was afraid to ask if it means something else. Favorite Loss Of Signal Software? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 14:18:26 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice additions to last year's categories: audio editor: audacity, rezound audio player: cd-ripper: grip desktop OR window manager: gnome, xfce4 DBMS: development: eclipse, scite, gcc disc burner: cdrecord e-mail client: icedove file manager: finance: kmymoney2, gnucash ftp client: ftp, sftp games: freecell image editor: gimp image viewer: eog, gwenview instant messenger: mathematics: misc utilities: nmap, nagios, amanda, openssh, mdadm, tripwire p2p: package manager: the *apt* collection pdf-reader: evince spreadsheet: gnumeric tag editor: terminal emulator: gterm text editor: vim, scite video player: web browser: iceweasel, lynx word-processor: OpenOffice non-free: lame SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: lenny anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): perl any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): Debian, openBSD, Sun, apache, and the grand-daddy: GNU any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): Bram Molinar, Richard Stallman, Theo de Raadt, Larry Wall particularly hated; massive nuisance causing data loss and grief: UDEV!!! (not the idea; the implementation) - -- Glenn English [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkdaJYACgkQ04yQfZbbTLbbMACeJDxjFZvyelS63CESxu9PnokO Y+gAoJLPYKbggwozfS74u6MPXvAgccyZ =BuPu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 02:18:26PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: audio editor: audio player: moc cd-ripper: jack desktop OR window manager: fvwm DBMS: postgresql development: gcc, python disc burner: wodim e-mail client: mutt file manager: finance: sql-ledger ftp client: lftp games: wesnoth, bzflag image editor: gimp image viewer: geeqie instant messenger: gajim mathematics: misc utilities: p2p: rtorrent package manager: aptitude pdf-reader: xpdf spreadsheet: gnumeric tag editor: terminal emulator: urxvt text editor: vim video player: mplayer web browser: iceweasel word-processor: latex non-free: skype SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): -- Tom Low-Shang * JID [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Friday 14 November 2008, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?': John Hasler wrote: machiner writes: what's your favourite FLOSS? I've been using some Johnson Johnson Reach brand that the dentist gave me recently, but I think that the Equate stuff from Walmart is just as good. I was afraid to ask if it means something else. Favorite Loss Of Signal Software? Free (Libre) / Open-Source Software. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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On Thursday 13 November 2008, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'what's your favourite FLOSS?': audio player: Amarok cd-ripper: KAudioCreator desktop OR window manager: KDE 3 DBMS: PostgreSQL development: disc burner: K3B e-mail client: KMail file manager: Konqueror ftp client: Konqueror games: Singularity instant messenger: Pidgin misc utilities: GNU Screen Keychain Git p2p: KTorrent package manager: Aptitutde pdf-reader: KPDF spreadsheet: OpenOffice.Org Calc terminal emulator: Konsole text editor: Vim video player: Kaffeine web browser: Konqueror word-processor: OpenOffice.Org Writer non-free: If it's not free, it isn't F(L)OSS. anything unreleased and highly anticipated: KDE 4 for Debian Stable. anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): All the java software committed to running on F(L)OSS [e.g. gcj]. They are the reason we have OpenJDK now. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: audio editor: audio player:amarok cd-ripper: desktop OR window manager:gnome DBMS: development: disc burner:k3b e-mail client:thunderbird file manager:nautilus finance: ftp client:filezilla games:sauerbraten image editor: image viewer: instant messenger: mathematics: misc utilities: p2p:transmission/bittorrent package manager:apt/synaptic pdf-reader: spreadsheet:Ooo tag editor: terminal emulator:terminal text editor:gedit video player:mplayer web browser:firefox word-processor:Ooo non-free: SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com Any people anywhere, being inclined, and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. Abraham Lincoln 1848 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello, audio editor: audio player: vlc cd-ripper: sound-juicer desktop OR window manager: Xfce4 DBMS: development: disc burner: Brasero e-mail client: claws-mail file manager: finance: ftp client: gftp games: Nexuiz image editor: image viewer: instant messenger: Pidgin mathematics: misc utilities: too many to list p2p: package manager: aptitude pdf-reader: xpdf spreadsheet: tag editor: terminal emulator: roxterm text editor: nano, mousepad video player: mplayer web browser: word-processor: non-free: Opera Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: audio editor: audio player: cd-ripper: desktop OR window manager: DBMS: development: disc burner: e-mail client: file manager: finance: ftp client: games: image editor: image viewer: instant messenger: mathematics: misc utilities: p2p: package manager: pdf-reader: spreadsheet: tag editor: terminal emulator: text editor: video player: web browser: word-processor: non-free: SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:18:26 +0200 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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Le Jeu 13 novembre 2008 13:18, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe a écrit : audio editor: audio player: rhythmbox cd-ripper: desktop OR window manager: LXDE DBMS: mysql development: gcc/g++/php/perl/bash disc burner: mkisofs/wodim e-mail client: mutt/icedove file manager: PCMan / Thunar finance: grisbi ftp client: scp/ssh games: image editor: TheGIMP/ImageMagick image viewer: eog(Eye of Gnome), gthumb, gimageview instant messenger: pidguin/irssi mathematics: misc utilities: jpilot p2p: package manager: aptitude pdf-reader: acroread (C.Marillat's Debian Multimedia repo) spreadsheet: OOo tag editor: terminal emulator: xfterm / screen text editor: vim video player: xfmedia web browser: iceweasel word-processor: OOo non-free: acroread/sun-java6-plugin/flashplugin-nonfree/mplayer/mencoder video editor: cinelerra/manDVD/dvd-slideshow monitoring: gkrellm volume manager: LVM2 disaster recovery: mondo backup: rsync boot loader: grub2 / splashy SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): linux/gcc any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): debian any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): every OSS developper for their work You should use the debian popcon site : http://popcon.debian.org/ Fanfan -- http://www.cerbelle.net - http://www.afdm-idf.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Le Thursday 13 November 2008 13:18:26 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe, vous avez écrit : Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): http://www.april.org/ It is an association that try to promote Floss to the europeen political people. Sorry it's in french right now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:18 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: It's that time of year again? Time is just flying. I think I will have to wait until Sunday to fill this all out, though. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| Category | | |---+-| | audio player | Amarok | | desktop OR window manager | KDE | | development | Emacs | | disc burner | K3B | | e-mail client | Emacs (M-x gnus)| | file manager | Konqueror | | ftp client| Konqueror | | mathematics | Emacs (M-x calc)| | misc utilities| Git (version control) | | package manager | DPKG/APT| | pdf-reader| Kpdf| | spreadsheet | Emacs (M-x orgtbl-mode) | | terminal emulator | XTerm | | text editor | Emacs | | video player | MPlayer | | web browser | Iceweasel (Firefox) | | word-processor| OpenOffice.org | |---+-| | any organisation/community | deserving great honours | Debian | |---+-| | FLOSS developer deserving honours | Richard M. Stallman | | | Linus Torvals | |---+-| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Fixed version: | Category | | |---+-| | audio player | Amarok | | desktop OR window manager | KDE | | development | Emacs | | disc burner | K3B | | e-mail client | Emacs (M-x gnus)| | file manager | Konqueror | | ftp client| Konqueror | | mathematics | Emacs (M-x calc)| | misc utilities| Git (version control) | | package manager | DPKG/APT| | pdf-reader| Kpdf| | spreadsheet | Emacs (M-x orgtbl-mode) | | terminal emulator | XTerm | | text editor | Emacs | | video player | MPlayer | | web browser | Iceweasel (Firefox) | | word-processor| OpenOffice.org | |---+-| | any organisation/community| Debian | | deserving great honours | | |---+-| | any FLOSS developer deserving | Richard M. Stallman | | great honours | Linus Torvals | |---+-| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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machiner writes: what's your favourite FLOSS? I've been using some Johnson Johnson Reach brand that the dentist gave me recently, but I think that the Equate stuff from Walmart is just as good. I guess I don't have a favorite. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 13 Nov 2008, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: desktop OR window manager: icewm ftp client: sitecopy games: crafty spreadsheet: gnumeric text editor: vim document-processor: LyX any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): Bram Moolenaar -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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2008/11/13 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: audio editor: audio player: Amarok cd-ripper: desktop OR window manager: KDE DBMS: development: VIM disc burner: K3B e-mail client: Kmail / Thunderbird file manager: Konqueror finance: ftp client: Konqueror games: image editor: Gimp image viewer: Eye of Gnome instant messenger: Kopete mathematics: Maxima misc utilities: Zim! Zim! p2p: package manager: apt pdf-reader: Okular spreadsheet: OOo tag editor: terminal emulator: Konsole text editor: Kate video player: VLC web browser: Firefox word-processor: OOo non-free: SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): Zim! This personal wiki is making my life more organized than it has ever been. any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): KDE, Ubuntu any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): Aaron Siego, Jaap Karssenberg, Linus Torvalds. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
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2008/11/13 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: audio editor: audacity audio player: mesk cd-ripper: sound-juicer desktop OR window manager: gnome, compiz DBMS: - development: moodevelop is the only IDE i've used disc burner: gnomebaker e-mail client: evolution file manager: nautilus finance: - ftp client: gftp games: freeciv image editor: gimp image viewer: gthumb instant messenger: emesene mathematics: gnome calculator misc utilities: jinzora p2p: deluge package manager: synaptic/aptitude pdf-reader: document viewer spreadsheet: open office tag editor: tagtool terminal emulator: gnome terminal text editor: gedit video player: totem/totem-xine web browser: epiphany word-processor: open office non-free: opera SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: not anything right now anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): i love tag tool, mesk, and most of the default gnome apps. any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:18:26 +0200 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: audio player: mplayer desktop OR window manager: Xfce / Xfwm development: Bluefish / Gvim / Vim e-mail client: Sylpheed file manager: mc ftp client: ncftp games: Wesnoth / Nethack image editor: Gimp / Imagemagick image viewer: feh package manager: aptitude pdf-reader: evince terminal emulator: [Xfce] Terminal text editor: vim video player: [G]mplayer web browser: Iceweasel word-processor: Abiword / oowriter SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): Debian, OpenWrt, Linux, ssh, Sylpheed, b43, ath5k, perl Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Before releasing the results, here's out my own favourites: desktop OR window manager: * GNOME development: * Python, GTK2 finance: * Gnumeric misc utilities: * grep, Sudo, debmirror, Lsof, less, Meld, Uptimed, sort, du, wc, top, svn, mencoder, Tracker, apt-show-source, APTonCD, File-roller package manager: * Wajig spreadsheet: * Gnumeric tag editor: * Ex Falso terminal emulator: * GNOME Terminal text editor: * Scribes web composer: * Iceape anything deservinggreat honours: * toolchain (GCC, GLibC, Binutils), Linux, Bash, coreutils, Xorg, GTK2, GLib, Qt, Apache, Perl, Python anything unreleased and anticipated: * HURD, Coyotos + BitC + BitCC -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Am 2007-11-14 15:23:09, schrieb Tshepang Lekhonkhobe: On Nov 13, 2007 1:52 PM, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: image editor: gaim mistake? Grmpf! gimp! Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
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Am 2007-11-14 15:28:32, schrieb Tshepang Lekhonkhobe: On Nov 13, 2007 1:52 PM, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anything unreleased and anticipated: DFSG debian free software guidelines? I like it! Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Tamay Dogan Network Open Hardware Developer Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
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On Nov 16, 2007 11:41 PM, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 2007-11-14 15:28:32, schrieb Tshepang Lekhonkhobe: On Nov 13, 2007 1:52 PM, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anything unreleased and anticipated: DFSG debian free software guidelines? I like it! Me not understand. DFSG exists already... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Nov 14, 2007 10:09 PM, Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant I saw it listed under mathematics. I already saw someone who listed Python under mathematics, and maybe it's because she uses it as a calculator. What about you? Numerical analysis of various kinds - less so now since I have started using R, but its still a good way to understand the fundamental details of the calcs. involved in various techniques (at least to a pretty elementary level) and how to use some of the BOOST libs and TMP etc which can be useful in some cases. Thanks much... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Nov 15, 2007 2:20 AM, M. Baldinelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Interesting. Does this run on Debian, and if so, how? I tried it with gxmame frontend (I think now it's discontinued, because it's in Obsolete and Locally Created Packages, or perhaps it was from some unofficial .deb package, I don't remember). I didn't try it with recent and heavy games, as my favorite ones are some 80's games, but it worked quite well. Now I didn't run it for a long time and cannot load games for now because I moved some directory here and there :-), but the frontend starts up and apparently keeps working well. Here's the packages I installed on my lenny machine (gxmame obsoleted and quite old versions for the xmame-* ones, too): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l | grep ^ii .*mame ii gxmame0.35beta2-1 GTK XMame frontend ii xmame-common 0.106-2 Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator ii xmame-extras 20050404-1Optional files used by xmame (cheat.dat etc) ii xmame-sdl 0.106-2 SDL binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine ii xmame-tools 0.106-2 Tools for xmame and xmess ii xmame-x 0.106-2 X binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine E [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ As I imagined, they are all in non-free, except for gxmame which is in contrib. That was helpful, I was not aware that such goodness was available in Debian repos. Thanks... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories: audio editor: Audacity audio player: Rythmbox, Juk cd-ripper: * desktop OR window manager: XFCE4, KDE DBMS: MySQL development: * disc burner: K3b e-mail client: Thunderbird 2 file manager: Thunar, Konqueror, ls finance: * ftp client: FileZilla image editor: Gimp image viewer: gQviewer, Kuickshow, Fspot instant messenger: Pidgin mathematics: galculator, Kcalc misc utilities: Xarchiver, Ark, AVI Demux, Wifi-radar, wireshark news: * p2p: BitTornardo CLient package manager: apt-get, Synaptic, Aptitude pdf-reader: xpdfeader, kpdfviewer spreadsheet: gnumeric,kspread tag editor: * terminal emulator: xfce4-terminal, konsole text editor: nano, mousepad, kwrite video player: mplayer, vlc web browser: Iceweasel 2 word-processor: Abiword anything unreleased and anticipated: * anything deserving great honours (EG. GCC): The FOSS community. games: * non-free: Skype, Innotek Virtualbox, Mihira. -- Random Quotes From Megas XLR Coop: You see? The mysteries of the Universe are revealed when you break stuff. Jamie: When in doubt, blow up a planet. Kiva: It's an 80 foot robot, if we can't see it, absolutely it's not here. Glorft Technician: Unnecessary use of force in capturing the Earthers has been approved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Am 2007-11-06 13:15:18, schrieb Tshepang Lekhonkhobe:
Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to
add missing categories:
audio editor:
audacity
audio player:
xmms
cd-ripper:
*
desktop OR window manager:
fvwm
DBMS:
postgresql
development:
gcc
gtk+2
disc burner:
cdrecord
e-mail client:
mutt
file manager:
mc
finance:
gnucash
ftp client:
mc
image editor:
gaim
image viewer:
xzgv
instant messenger:
gaim
mathematics:
bc
misc utilities:
${RANDOM}
news:
i_hate_news
p2p:
ssh/scp
package manager:
apt-get
pdf-reader:
xpdf
spreadsheet:
php5/postgresql
tag editor:
*
terminal emulator:
xterm
text editor:
xedit
video player:
vlc
web browser:
iceape
word-processor:
xedit
anything unreleased and anticipated:
DFSG
anything deserving great honours (EG. GCC):
gcc
pth
gtk+2
games:
xmahjongg
non-free:
what_is_this_crap
Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant
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On Nov 13, 2007 1:52 PM, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anything unreleased and anticipated: DFSG debian free software guidelines? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Nov 13, 2007 10:37 PM, Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Nov 11, 2007 12:22 AM, Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mathematics: R, g++, Octave g++? yes, g++ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ g++ -v Using built-in specs. Target: i486-linux-gnu Configured with: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c ++,treelang --prefix=/usr --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/l ib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --enable-nls --program-suff ix=-4.1 --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --en able-mpfr --with-tune=i686 --enable-checking=release i486-linux-gnu Thread model: posix gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I meant I saw it listed under mathematics. I already saw someone who listed Python under mathematics, and maybe it's because she uses it as a calculator. What about you? Numerical analysis of various kinds - less so now since I have started using R, but its still a good way to understand the fundamental details of the calcs. involved in various techniques (at least to a pretty elementary level) and how to use some of the BOOST libs and TMP etc which can be useful in some cases. Kind regards, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
