Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-23 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
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Carl Fink wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 07:24:23PM +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
> 
>> Carl Fink wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 05:54:51PM +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
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> After reading this thread, I was irritated to find that audacious isn't in
> Lenny.
 And what is http://packages.debian.org/lenny/audacious then? :)
>>> As of yesterday, not installable.
>> What do you mean?
> 
> NitpickingHP2:/home/carlf# apt-get install audacious
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree   
> Reading state information... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
> 
> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
> that package should be filed.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
> 
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   audacious: Depends: gtk2-engines-pixbuf but it is not going to be
> installed
> E: Broken packages
> NitpickingHP2:/home/carlf# 
> 
> 
> In a word, that's what I mean.
So, try to do 'aptitude install audacious -V', and place the output here.
Also let us view output of 'apt-cache policy gtk2-engines-pixbuf'.

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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-22 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 07:24:23PM +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:

> Carl Fink wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 05:54:51PM +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
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> >> Carl Fink wrote:
> >>> After reading this thread, I was irritated to find that audacious isn't in
> >>> Lenny.
> >> And what is http://packages.debian.org/lenny/audacious then? :)
> > 
> > As of yesterday, not installable.
> 
> What do you mean?

NitpickingHP2:/home/carlf# apt-get install audacious
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  audacious: Depends: gtk2-engines-pixbuf but it is not going to be
installed
E: Broken packages
NitpickingHP2:/home/carlf# 


In a word, that's what I mean.
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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-22 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
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Carl Fink wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 05:54:51PM +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
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>> Carl Fink wrote:
>>> After reading this thread, I was irritated to find that audacious isn't in
>>> Lenny.
>> And what is http://packages.debian.org/lenny/audacious then? :)
> 
> As of yesterday, not installable.

What do you mean?

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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-22 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 05:54:51PM +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
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> Carl Fink wrote:
> > After reading this thread, I was irritated to find that audacious isn't in
> > Lenny.
> And what is http://packages.debian.org/lenny/audacious then? :)

As of yesterday, not installable.
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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-22 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
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Carl Fink wrote:
> After reading this thread, I was irritated to find that audacious isn't in
> Lenny.
And what is http://packages.debian.org/lenny/audacious then? :)


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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-22 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 10:35:43AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> After reading this thread, I was irritated to find that audacious isn't in
> Lenny.

audacious |1.5.0-2 |   testing | source, alpha, amd64, arm, armel, 
hppa, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc

Well 1.5.1 has some bugs fixed but 1.5.0 is available.

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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-22 Thread Carl Fink
After reading this thread, I was irritated to find that audacious isn't in
Lenny.

Linux Journal just mentioned minirok.  Haven't tried it yet.
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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 06:47:27AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> just to jump in... I recommend mpd with some kind of front end. I find
> it just the thing: small, and out of the way. It's just a music player
> daemon (hence the name). You can control it with a number of different
> cli and graphical front ends. I like mpc, a cli frontend. You issue
> commands like `mpc play` or `mpc next` etc. Makes it easy to script or
> bind to WM keys.

Also consider moc.

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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Nuno Magalhães wrote:

Yes I saw that, xmms2 and wmxmms2.


And having tried them, they are totally unlike xmms and wmxmms.
Completely command-line driven.



Well yes, the server is command-line driven; the clients are not. I've
used esperanza but it lacked ramdom playing so i'm using a plugin for
gKrellm. xmms2d actually does have many clients to choose from, many
GUI-clients that is:
http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Clients



I saw those. But the upshot of it is, in my opinion, that if xmms is 
gone, audacious is a simpler replacement.


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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-20 Thread Nuno Magalhães
>> Yes I saw that, xmms2 and wmxmms2.
>>
>
> And having tried them, they are totally unlike xmms and wmxmms.
> Completely command-line driven.
>

Well yes, the server is command-line driven; the clients are not. I've
used esperanza but it lacked ramdom playing so i'm using a plugin for
gKrellm. xmms2d actually does have many clients to choose from, many
GUI-clients that is:
http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Clients

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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Nuno Magalhães wrote:

Or,
You can use xmms2, which works as a daemon, and use some xmms2 client
(i'm currently using gKrellm plugins).
Both are on the mirrors.



Yes I saw that, xmms2 and wmxmms2.



And having tried them, they are totally unlike xmms and wmxmms.
Completely command-line driven.

Hugo


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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-20 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jun 20 08:48 -0500]:
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:04:52PM +0100, Michal R. Hoffmann wrote:
> > On 19/06/08 22:34, Mark Allums wrote:
> >> Ivan Glushkov wrote:
> >>  > Hi all,
> >>  > I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility
> >>  > to install xmms?
> >>  >
> >>
> >> If I understand correctly, xmms is no longer considered stable or  
> >> reliable; it has no maintainer, and has been abandoned by the upstream  
> >> maintainer.  So, people using it need to transition to something else.  
> >> I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.
> >
> > I would recommend Audacious. Previously I used winamp on Windows and  
> > xmms on Linux. Audacious is very similar in 'feel', very sleek and does  
> > the job. Plays mp3, mpc, ogg, flac, possibly many more :) Install  
> > plugins package as well.

Since I had gotten used to XMMS over the years and then BMP, Audacious
fills my needs very well.  My favorite skins are compatible and it just
seems to keep improving.  It's miles ahead of where XMMS was at the end
of its run.  For those of us who just want a graphical music player
without the overhead of a server or jukebox, etc., it's great to have an
excellent piece of software keep improving.

- Nate >>

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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:04:52PM +0100, Michal R. Hoffmann wrote:
> On 19/06/08 22:34, Mark Allums wrote:
>> Ivan Glushkov wrote:
>>  > Hi all,
>>  > I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility
>>  > to install xmms?
>>  >
>>
>> If I understand correctly, xmms is no longer considered stable or  
>> reliable; it has no maintainer, and has been abandoned by the upstream  
>> maintainer.  So, people using it need to transition to something else.  
>> I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.
>
> I would recommend Audacious. Previously I used winamp on Windows and  
> xmms on Linux. Audacious is very similar in 'feel', very sleek and does  
> the job. Plays mp3, mpc, ogg, flac, possibly many more :) Install  
> plugins package as well.


just to jump in... I recommend mpd with some kind of front end. I find
it just the thing: small, and out of the way. It's just a music player
daemon (hence the name). You can control it with a number of different
cli and graphical front ends. I like mpc, a cli frontend. You issue
commands like `mpc play` or `mpc next` etc. Makes it easy to script or
bind to WM keys.

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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Nuno Magalhães wrote:

Or,
You can use xmms2, which works as a daemon, and use some xmms2 client
(i'm currently using gKrellm plugins).
Both are on the mirrors.



Yes I saw that, xmms2 and wmxmms2.

Hugo


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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-20 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Or,
You can use xmms2, which works as a daemon, and use some xmms2 client
(i'm currently using gKrellm plugins).
Both are on the mirrors.

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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 06/19/08 21:20, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 06/19/08 21:02, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Ivan Glushkov wrote:

Hi all,
I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility
to install xmms?

lili2:/usr/src# apt-cache search xmms



I have sid i386 and xmms still shows up:

...
wmxmms2 - remote-control dockapp for XMMS2
...
xmms2 - Client/server based media player system
...
xmms - Versatile X audio player
...

Specifically wmxmms is handy with fvwm, which audacious doesn't have: it
shows up as a docked application and clicking it will start it.

It would be interesting to see what the results of this command are
on your computer:

$ apt-cache policy xmms
xmms:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy xmms
xmms:
  Installed: 1:1.2.10+20070601-1+b1
  Candidate: 1:1.2.10+20070601-1+b1
  Version table:
 *** 1:1.2.10+20070601-1+b1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


Which indicates that it's not in Sid anymore...  Copy those .deb
files to a safe place before doing an "apt-get clean"!!!



No need: I do dpkg-repack and reprepro so I have it in the mirror.
But I am switching to audacious, although that has no windowmaker app to 
control it like wmxmms.


Hugo


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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 05:00:46PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 19:24 -0400, Curt Howland wrote:
> > It has been replaced by Audacious, which looks and works exactly the 
> > same.
> > 
> > I liked XMMS, and am happy with Audacious.
> 
> Wow, that package changes names every few years, doesn't it?  It was
> X11Amp, then XMMS, now Audacious...

Audacious is a different piece of software forked from bmp and not XMMS.

It's just what most people in search for a small - just player - software
use as a replacement. There are other players around with more features and
different user interfaces like amarok or rythmbox.

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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-19 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 06/19/08 21:20, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>
>> On 06/19/08 21:02, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>>> Ivan Glushkov wrote:
 Hi all,
 I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility
 to install xmms?

 lili2:/usr/src# apt-cache search xmms
>>> 
>>>
>>> I have sid i386 and xmms still shows up:
>>>
>>> ...
>>> wmxmms2 - remote-control dockapp for XMMS2
>>> ...
>>> xmms2 - Client/server based media player system
>>> ...
>>> xmms - Versatile X audio player
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Specifically wmxmms is handy with fvwm, which audacious doesn't have: it
>>> shows up as a docked application and clicking it will start it.
>>
>> It would be interesting to see what the results of this command are
>> on your computer:
>>
>> $ apt-cache policy xmms
>> xmms:
>>   Installed: (none)
>>   Candidate: (none)
>>   Version table:
>>
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy xmms
> xmms:
>   Installed: 1:1.2.10+20070601-1+b1
>   Candidate: 1:1.2.10+20070601-1+b1
>   Version table:
>  *** 1:1.2.10+20070601-1+b1 0
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Which indicates that it's not in Sid anymore...  Copy those .deb
files to a safe place before doing an "apt-get clean"!!!

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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 06/19/08 21:02, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Ivan Glushkov wrote:

Hi all,
I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility
to install xmms?

lili2:/usr/src# apt-cache search xmms



I have sid i386 and xmms still shows up:

...
wmxmms2 - remote-control dockapp for XMMS2
...
xmms2 - Client/server based media player system
...
xmms - Versatile X audio player
...

Specifically wmxmms is handy with fvwm, which audacious doesn't have: it
shows up as a docked application and clicking it will start it.


It would be interesting to see what the results of this command are
on your computer:

$ apt-cache policy xmms
xmms:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy xmms
xmms:
  Installed: 1:1.2.10+20070601-1+b1
  Candidate: 1:1.2.10+20070601-1+b1
  Version table:
 *** 1:1.2.10+20070601-1+b1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Hugo


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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-19 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 06/19/08 21:02, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Ivan Glushkov wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility
>> to install xmms?
>>
>> lili2:/usr/src# apt-cache search xmms
> 
> 
> 
> I have sid i386 and xmms still shows up:
> 
> ...
> wmxmms2 - remote-control dockapp for XMMS2
> ...
> xmms2 - Client/server based media player system
> ...
> xmms - Versatile X audio player
> ...
> 
> Specifically wmxmms is handy with fvwm, which audacious doesn't have: it
> shows up as a docked application and clicking it will start it.

It would be interesting to see what the results of this command are
on your computer:

$ apt-cache policy xmms
xmms:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:

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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Ivan Glushkov wrote:

Hi all,
I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility 
to install xmms?


lili2:/usr/src# apt-cache search xmms




I have sid i386 and xmms still shows up:

...
wmxmms2 - remote-control dockapp for XMMS2
...
xmms2 - Client/server based media player system
...
xmms - Versatile X audio player
...

Specifically wmxmms is handy with fvwm, which audacious doesn't have: it 
shows up as a docked application and clicking it will start it.


Hugo


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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 19:24 -0400, Curt Howland wrote:
> It has been replaced by Audacious, which looks and works exactly the 
> same.
> 
> I liked XMMS, and am happy with Audacious.

Wow, that package changes names every few years, doesn't it?  It was
X11Amp, then XMMS, now Audacious...

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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-19 Thread Curt Howland
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It has been replaced by Audacious, which looks and works exactly the 
same.

I liked XMMS, and am happy with Audacious.

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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-19 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
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Ivan Glushkov wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility
> to install xmms?

Xmms has been removed from Debian archive.
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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-19 Thread Michael Shuler

On 06/19/2008 02:46 PM, Ivan Glushkov wrote:
I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility 
to install xmms?


Audacious is a fork of xmms and works quite well for me.
http://audacious-media-player.org/

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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-19 Thread Michal R. Hoffmann

On 19/06/08 22:34, Mark Allums wrote:

Ivan Glushkov wrote:
 > Hi all,
 > I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility
 > to install xmms?
 >

If I understand correctly, xmms is no longer considered stable or 
reliable; it has no maintainer, and has been abandoned by the upstream 
maintainer.  So, people using it need to transition to something else. 
I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.


I would recommend Audacious. Previously I used winamp on Windows and 
xmms on Linux. Audacious is very similar in 'feel', very sleek and does 
the job. Plays mp3, mpc, ogg, flac, possibly many more :) Install 
plugins package as well.


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Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-19 Thread Mark Allums

Ivan Glushkov wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility
> to install xmms?
>

If I understand correctly, xmms is no longer considered stable or 
reliable; it has no maintainer, and has been abandoned by the upstream 
maintainer.  So, people using it need to transition to something else. 
I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.



Mark Allums


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