Re: xfree86 4.3 installing on unstable
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 08:45:31AM +0100, Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is there any way to install xfree 4.3 on my Debian unstable box > without switching to experimental? 4.3.0 may go to sid, as far as I know. But don't hold your breath please. Anyway, you can't switch to experimental, as it's not a complete distribution, and also you don't have to install everything that there. Just install XFree86 packages. If you still do not want this, then just add deb-src lines for experimental and build them for unstable for yourself (you should not do it, as it takes too much time, and XFree86 from experimental is stable, at least I use it for months by now without problems). GCS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfree86 4.3 installing on unstable
* Nick Hastings ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031219 00:35]: > Hi, > > * Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031219 16:46]: > > Dear all, > > > > is there any way to install xfree 4.3 on my Debian unstable box > > without switching to experimental? > > I think you may have a misunderstanding about the experimental > archive. The experimental archive is _not_ a fully self contained > distribution. So you can't "switch" to it. You can however use > packages from unstable. > > I would recommend adding experimental to your sources.list, then > > apt-get update > apt-get install xserver-xfree86 This won't do it. > Then just comment out the experimental line in sources.list, and Bob's > your uncle and Fanny's your Aunt. The above method works for me. And that's not necessary. See my other post (in response to Paul) in this thread for more on how experimental is different from ((un)?stable|testing). good times, Vineet -- http://www.doorstop.net/ -- http://www.anti-dmca.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xfree86 4.3 installing on unstable
* Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031219 17:57]: > On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 08:45:31AM +0100, Lukas Ruf wrote: > > is there any way to install xfree 4.3 on my Debian unstable box > > without switching to experimental? > > Experimental is not a full distro, just a slice of packages, AFAIK, so > the answer is mu. > > If you had asked, "Is there a way to install xfree 4.3 on unstable > without pulling experimental," the answer would be "yes, go download > the source from xfree86.org and compile it yourself." depends what you mean by "pulling experimental". If you want to just install xserver-xfree86, xfree86-common, xlibs, xlibs-data, from experimental (without "upgrading" any other packages), this is very simple. Just add experimental to sources.list. Apt never chooses experimental packages by default unless explicitly told to do so. So using "-t experimental" (or better, IMO, explicitly choosing versions in aptitude), you can pick and choose packages as you please. No custom preferences or apt.conf settings needed, and no great danger of being automatically "upgraded to experimental". IMO, there's no reason to regard the experimental X packages as any worse than self-compiled ones -- I'm sure Branden et al can do a far better job at putting together a decent XFree86 system than I can, and I'll gladly profit from their hard work rather than trying to duplicate it. good times, Vineet -- http://www.doorstop.net/ -- http://www.doorstop.net/sprintpcs_sucks signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xfree86 4.3 installing on unstable
Bill Kalebaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Z Maze wrote: > >>You probably don't want a full XFree86 4.3 install, just the X server >>for hardware support. On my laptop, I downloaded the Xxserv.tgz and >>Xmod.tgz binary tarballs from xfree86.org, unpacked them in >>/usr/local, repointed /etc/X11/X at /usr/local/bin/XFree86, and edited >>the XF86Config file appropriately. It looks like I still have the >>Debian xserver-xfree86 package installed, but I don't really use it. >> > I tried following your instructions to the letter, now X will not come > up, had to re point to /user/X11R6/bin. > What did you change in the XF86Config-4 file It looks like the only substantive change was changing ModulePath from /usr/X11R6/lib/modules to /usr/local/lib/modules. [And having used this setup successfully from a couple of months, I switched to the packages in Debian experimental, and they seem to work fine. Installing xlibmesa-dri, also out of experimental, seems to have given me direct rendering support vs. the modules in the 2.4.23 kernel; with some hacking I was able to build xlibmesa-drm-src, but I'm not actually using it. This would seem to suggest that there's another tarball from xfree86.org you'd need for this functionality.] -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfree86 4.3 installing on unstable
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 04:59:54PM -0600, Bill Kalebaugh said > David Z Maze wrote: > > >Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > >>is there any way to install xfree 4.3 on my Debian unstable box > >>without switching to experimental? > >> > >>Thanks for any explanation on how I could achieve that! > >> > >> > > > >You probably don't want a full XFree86 4.3 install, just the X server > >for hardware support. On my laptop, I downloaded the Xxserv.tgz and > >Xmod.tgz binary tarballs from xfree86.org, unpacked them in > >/usr/local, repointed /etc/X11/X at /usr/local/bin/XFree86, and edited > >the XF86Config file appropriately. It looks like I still have the > >Debian xserver-xfree86 package installed, but I don't really use it. > > > > > > > I tried following your instructions to the letter, now X will not come > up, had to re point to /user/X11R6/bin. > What did you change in the XF86Config-4 file > I need to get 4.3 working to use my video card (NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440) > as was told I could not use this card > on anything older than 4.2.0. But my woody has 4.0.1. You can get .debs for XFree86 4.2 on woody from http://www.apt-get.org/, just punch xserver-xfree86 into the search box. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: spies Pakistan BATF Rand Corporation InfoSec signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xfree86 4.3 installing on unstable
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 08:45:31AM +0100, Lukas Ruf wrote: > is there any way to install xfree 4.3 on my Debian unstable box > without switching to experimental? Experimental is not a full distro, just a slice of packages, AFAIK, so the answer is mu. If you had asked, "Is there a way to install xfree 4.3 on unstable without pulling experimental," the answer would be "yes, go download the source from xfree86.org and compile it yourself." - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/46xnUzgNqloQMwcRAlz4AJwIuJNAHUgZQ8xCKZUGp+f63us+9gCgzEu6 OMruXusoDunDJKqCTvB3CBc= =zSPk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfree86 4.3 installing on unstable
David Z Maze wrote: Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: is there any way to install xfree 4.3 on my Debian unstable box without switching to experimental? Thanks for any explanation on how I could achieve that! You probably don't want a full XFree86 4.3 install, just the X server for hardware support. On my laptop, I downloaded the Xxserv.tgz and Xmod.tgz binary tarballs from xfree86.org, unpacked them in /usr/local, repointed /etc/X11/X at /usr/local/bin/XFree86, and edited the XF86Config file appropriately. It looks like I still have the Debian xserver-xfree86 package installed, but I don't really use it. I tried following your instructions to the letter, now X will not come up, had to re point to /user/X11R6/bin. What did you change in the XF86Config-4 file I need to get 4.3 working to use my video card (NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440) as was told I could not use this card on anything older than 4.2.0. But my woody has 4.0.1. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfree86 4.3 installing on unstable
Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > is there any way to install xfree 4.3 on my Debian unstable box > without switching to experimental? > > Thanks for any explanation on how I could achieve that! You probably don't want a full XFree86 4.3 install, just the X server for hardware support. On my laptop, I downloaded the Xxserv.tgz and Xmod.tgz binary tarballs from xfree86.org, unpacked them in /usr/local, repointed /etc/X11/X at /usr/local/bin/XFree86, and edited the XF86Config file appropriately. It looks like I still have the Debian xserver-xfree86 package installed, but I don't really use it. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfree86 4.3 installing on unstable
Hi, * Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031219 16:46]: > Dear all, > > is there any way to install xfree 4.3 on my Debian unstable box > without switching to experimental? I think you may have a misunderstanding about the experimental archive. The experimental archive is _not_ a fully self contained distribution. So you can't "switch" to it. You can however use packages from unstable. I would recommend adding experimental to your sources.list, then apt-get update apt-get install xserver-xfree86 Then just comment out the experimental line in sources.list, and Bob's your uncle and Fanny's your Aunt. The above method works for me. Other options include compiling it yourself or perhaps looking for packages at http://www.apt-get.org. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xfree86 4.3 installing on unstable
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 08:45:31AM +0100, Lukas Ruf wrote: > is there any way to install xfree 4.3 on my Debian unstable box > without switching to experimental? Nobody switches to experimental, as it isn't a complete distribution. While it's probably not universal, packages in experimental are generally built to be installed individually on unstable systems. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
