Re: Bug dans l'installateur?

2008-11-09 Thread Philippe Batailler
 jerome moliere [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrivait :
 Bonjour   tous,
   l'occasion de mes tests en installant des etch/lenny j'ai pu constater ce 
 qui
 me semble  tre un bug dans l'installateur...
 Arrivl' tape du setup grub, si on choisit d'installer grub ailleurs que 
 sur
 le MBR du 1er disque,le menu.lst g n r  est incorrect avec une entr e root
 (hd1) qui est inutile et genante puisqu'elle emp che le boot...Donc en la
 supprimant temporairement puis en reeditant le fichier manuellement une fois 
 la
 machine d marr e on fixe le souci...
 Confirmez vous? Si oui, comment le signaler   l' quipe debian?Jamais fait cela
 avec Debian

Pour signaler un problème, voir le manuel de l'installateur Debian :
http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/fr.i386/ch05s03.html#problem-report

a+
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Re: Bug ou Erro

2008-10-13 Thread Renato S. Yamane
Tinti escreveu:
 Eu coloquei a biblioteca no /ur/lib32/ apesar dela ser 64 salvo me
 engano entao o erro pode ser por causa disso.

Você não tem que colocar nada, em lugar nenhum :-)
Remova o arquivo que você colocou manualmente e faça:
#aptitude install liblog4cpp5 liblog4cpp5-dev

Att,
Renato


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Re: Bug ou Erro

2008-10-12 Thread Eddie

Esta instalado esse pacote?
liblog4cpp5




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Re: bug raccourcis clavier gedit (ctrl+s et ctrl+a)

2008-09-17 Thread Kevin Hinault
HS
 (comment on dit override en français ?)

Surcharger ? :)

Pour le reste aucune idée.

/HS

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Re: bug en bind 9? aun sin solucion

2008-08-29 Thread Luis Rondon Paz
amigos sun me siguen rebotando los correos en mi servidor dns

esta fué la configuración que le puse ahora y nada .





$ttl 3600
@   IN  SOA dns1.dominio.cu. root.dominio.cu. (

2008060359  ; serial
300; refresh (15 minutes)
400; retry (10 minutes)
86400  ; expire (1 day)
3600   ; minimum (1 hour)
)



dominio.cu.   IN  NS  ns1.dominio.cu.cu.
IN  NS  ns2.dominio.cu.cu.
IN  NS  mx3.dominio.cu.cu.
IN  NS  mail1.dominio.cu.




*IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.cu.
@IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.cu.
@IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
@IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.


ns1.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.82
ns2.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.83
mx3.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.2.11


fsn.dominio.cu.IN  A   172.16.1.82


mail1.dominio.cu. IN  A   172.16.1.82

www.dominio.cu.   IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.

www.hft.dominio.cu.  IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.
ht.dominio.cu.IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.



-

una ayuda me servirá de mucho pues los subdominios no me estan recibiendo
correo ni de yahoo españa ni de otros dominios de internet

gracias de antemano.

 El Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:14:21 -0400 (CDT)
 Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

  El Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:29:13 -0400 (CDT)
  Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED] *   IN  MX  1
  ns1.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
  minaz.cu escribió:
 
  hola amigos
 
  me esta ocurriendo lo siguiente en un dns que tengo configurado por
 aqui
  pues tengo definido registros mx y registros IN A
 
 
  sucede que cuando pongo registros IN A
  los registros mx de un subdominio  desaparecen automaticamente
  aqui lespongo un ejemplo de configuracion
 
 
  dominio.cu.   IN  NS  ns1.dominio.cu.
  IN  NS  ns2.dominio.cu.
  IN  NS  ms3.dominio.cu.
 
 
  *   IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
 
 
 
  mx3.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.1
  ns2.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.2
  ns1.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.3
 
 
 
  pepe.dominio.cu.  IN CNAME ns1.dominio.cu.
 
 
  ---
 
  cuando trato de resolver a pepe.minaz.cu desde registro mx
  me dice que *** Can't find pepe.dominio.cu: No answer
 
 
  alguna idea de que puede estar mal en esta configuracion ?
  o acao eso puede ser un bug ?
  pues antes no me havía pasado esto.
 
  gracias de antemano
 
 
  La verdad es que no acabo de entender bien tu problema. Por un lado
  hablas de subdominios, pero aquí solo veo un dominio: dominio.cu
 (sí, ya
  sé, es un subdominio de cu pero tú solo gestionas -por lo que
 parece-
  dominio.cu).
 
  Por otro lado, si esta es tu configuración completa, le veo un
 fallo.
  Cuando alguien pregunte por loquesea.dominio.cu para tipo de registro
  mx le responderá con un ns1.dominio.cu, pero cuando sea preguntado
 por
  los registros de tipo mx que haya en dominio.cu (como suelen hacer los
  servidores de correo) no podrá responderle nada.
 
  Si cambias tus registros MX por
 
  *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
  aparecerán ns2 y mx3 como respuestas a la consulta de registros mx
 a
  dominio.cu y
  ns1 a las consultas mx sobre pon_algo_aquí.dominio.cu.
 
  Esta otra
  *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
  Debe responder ns1, ns2 y mx3 a las consultas mx sobre dominio.cu y
 ns1
  a las consultas mx sobre el_nombre_que_se_te_ocurra.dominio.cu
 
  No sé si te he ayudado o no tenía nada que ver con tu pregunta.
 
  Saludos.
  --
  Manolo Díaz
 

 sigo embarcado pues no me ve el subdominio desde yahoo.es

 mira

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Re: bug en bind 9 ?

2008-08-28 Thread Manolo Díaz
El Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:29:13 -0400 (CDT)
Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED] *   IN  MX  1
ns1.dominio.cu.
 IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
 IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 minaz.cu escribió:

 hola amigos
 
 me esta ocurriendo lo siguiente en un dns que tengo configurado por aqui
 pues tengo definido registros mx y registros IN A
 
 
 sucede que cuando pongo registros IN A
 los registros mx de un subdominio  desaparecen automaticamente
 aqui lespongo un ejemplo de configuracion
 
 
 dominio.cu.   IN  NS  ns1.dominio.cu.
 IN  NS  ns2.dominio.cu.
 IN  NS  ms3.dominio.cu.
 
 
 *   IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
 IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
 IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
 
 
 
 mx3.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.1
 ns2.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.2
 ns1.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.3
 
 
 
 pepe.dominio.cu.  IN CNAME ns1.dominio.cu.
 
 
 ---
 
 cuando trato de resolver a pepe.minaz.cu desde registro mx
 me dice que *** Can't find pepe.dominio.cu: No answer
 
 
 alguna idea de que puede estar mal en esta configuracion ?
 o acao eso puede ser un bug ?
 pues antes no me havía pasado esto.
 
 gracias de antemano
 

La verdad es que no acabo de entender bien tu problema. Por un lado
hablas de subdominios, pero aquí solo veo un dominio: dominio.cu (sí, ya
sé, es un subdominio de cu pero tú solo gestionas -por lo que parece-
dominio.cu).

Por otro lado, si esta es tu configuración completa, le veo un fallo.
Cuando alguien pregunte por loquesea.dominio.cu para tipo de registro
mx le responderá con un ns1.dominio.cu, pero cuando sea preguntado por
los registros de tipo mx que haya en dominio.cu (como suelen hacer los
servidores de correo) no podrá responderle nada.

Si cambias tus registros MX por 

*IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
@IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
@IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.

aparecerán ns2 y mx3 como respuestas a la consulta de registros mx a dominio.cu 
y
ns1 a las consultas mx sobre pon_algo_aquí.dominio.cu.

Esta otra
*IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
@IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
@IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
@IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
Debe responder ns1, ns2 y mx3 a las consultas mx sobre dominio.cu y ns1
a las consultas mx sobre el_nombre_que_se_te_ocurra.dominio.cu

No sé si te he ayudado o no tenía nada que ver con tu pregunta.

Saludos.
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Re: bug en bind 9 ?

2008-08-28 Thread Luis Rondon Paz
 El Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:29:13 -0400 (CDT)
 Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED] *   IN  MX  1
 ns1.dominio.cu.
 IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
 IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 minaz.cu escribió:

 hola amigos

 me esta ocurriendo lo siguiente en un dns que tengo configurado por aqui
 pues tengo definido registros mx y registros IN A


 sucede que cuando pongo registros IN A
 los registros mx de un subdominio  desaparecen automaticamente
 aqui lespongo un ejemplo de configuracion


 dominio.cu.   IN  NS  ns1.dominio.cu.
 IN  NS  ns2.dominio.cu.
 IN  NS  ms3.dominio.cu.


 *   IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
 IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
 IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.




 mx3.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.1
 ns2.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.2
 ns1.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.3



 pepe.dominio.cu.  IN CNAME ns1.dominio.cu.


 ---

 cuando trato de resolver a pepe.minaz.cu desde registro mx
 me dice que *** Can't find pepe.dominio.cu: No answer


 alguna idea de que puede estar mal en esta configuracion ?
 o acao eso puede ser un bug ?
 pues antes no me havía pasado esto.

 gracias de antemano


 La verdad es que no acabo de entender bien tu problema. Por un lado
 hablas de subdominios, pero aquí solo veo un dominio: dominio.cu (sí, ya
 sé, es un subdominio de cu pero tú solo gestionas -por lo que parece-
 dominio.cu).

 Por otro lado, si esta es tu configuración completa, le veo un fallo.
 Cuando alguien pregunte por loquesea.dominio.cu para tipo de registro
 mx le responderá con un ns1.dominio.cu, pero cuando sea preguntado por
 los registros de tipo mx que haya en dominio.cu (como suelen hacer los
 servidores de correo) no podrá responderle nada.

 Si cambias tus registros MX por

 *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
 @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
 @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.

 aparecerán ns2 y mx3 como respuestas a la consulta de registros mx a
 dominio.cu y
 ns1 a las consultas mx sobre pon_algo_aquí.dominio.cu.

 Esta otra
 *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
 @IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
 @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
 @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.

 Debe responder ns1, ns2 y mx3 a las consultas mx sobre dominio.cu y ns1
 a las consultas mx sobre el_nombre_que_se_te_ocurra.dominio.cu

 No sé si te he ayudado o no tenía nada que ver con tu pregunta.
 ç


si en gran parte me creo que me puede resolver el problema
pues

me estaba dando un conflicto cuando ponia por ejemplo ese subdominio que
lo tengo en una red privada publicado por www

en registro mx de ese subdominio desaparecía por completo

vere como se ve en estos momentos
ademas que no se porque el registro dns se esta demorando tanto en
actualizar con los servidores de internet
el numero de serie tiene que ver con eso?



 Saludos.
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Re: bug en bind 9 ?

2008-08-28 Thread Manolo Díaz
El Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:30:40 -0400 (CDT)
Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

  El Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:29:13 -0400 (CDT)
  Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED] *   IN  MX  1
  ns1.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
  minaz.cu escribió:
 
  hola amigos
 
  me esta ocurriendo lo siguiente en un dns que tengo configurado por aqui
  pues tengo definido registros mx y registros IN A
 
 
  sucede que cuando pongo registros IN A
  los registros mx de un subdominio  desaparecen automaticamente
  aqui lespongo un ejemplo de configuracion
 
 
  dominio.cu.   IN  NS  ns1.dominio.cu.
  IN  NS  ns2.dominio.cu.
  IN  NS  ms3.dominio.cu.
 
 
  *   IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
 
 
 
  mx3.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.1
  ns2.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.2
  ns1.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.3
 
 
 
  pepe.dominio.cu.  IN CNAME ns1.dominio.cu.
 
 
  ---
 
  cuando trato de resolver a pepe.minaz.cu desde registro mx
  me dice que *** Can't find pepe.dominio.cu: No answer
 
 
  alguna idea de que puede estar mal en esta configuracion ?
  o acao eso puede ser un bug ?
  pues antes no me havía pasado esto.
 
  gracias de antemano
 
 
  La verdad es que no acabo de entender bien tu problema. Por un lado
  hablas de subdominios, pero aquí solo veo un dominio: dominio.cu (sí, ya
  sé, es un subdominio de cu pero tú solo gestionas -por lo que parece-
  dominio.cu).
 
  Por otro lado, si esta es tu configuración completa, le veo un fallo.
  Cuando alguien pregunte por loquesea.dominio.cu para tipo de registro
  mx le responderá con un ns1.dominio.cu, pero cuando sea preguntado por
  los registros de tipo mx que haya en dominio.cu (como suelen hacer los
  servidores de correo) no podrá responderle nada.
 
  Si cambias tus registros MX por
 
  *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
  aparecerán ns2 y mx3 como respuestas a la consulta de registros mx a
  dominio.cu y
  ns1 a las consultas mx sobre pon_algo_aquí.dominio.cu.
 
  Esta otra
  *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
  Debe responder ns1, ns2 y mx3 a las consultas mx sobre dominio.cu y ns1
  a las consultas mx sobre el_nombre_que_se_te_ocurra.dominio.cu
 
  No sé si te he ayudado o no tenía nada que ver con tu pregunta.
  ç
 
 
 si en gran parte me creo que me puede resolver el problema
 pues
 
 me estaba dando un conflicto cuando ponia por ejemplo ese subdominio que
 lo tengo en una red privada publicado por www
 
 en registro mx de ese subdominio desaparecía por completo
 
 vere como se ve en estos momentos
 ademas que no se porque el registro dns se esta demorando tanto en
 actualizar con los servidores de internet
 el numero de serie tiene que ver con eso?

El número de serie ha de ser aumentado cada vez que se hace un cambio
en los registros DNS. Aún así, los cambios tardan en reflejarse en el
resto de servidores DNS del mundo un tiempo máximo igual al TTL, que
suele variar entre minutos y un par de días.

Para ver si el cambio se ha realizado pregúntale directamente a uno de
los servidores de nombre de dominio.cu. Con la herramienta dig sería
algo así:

dig dominio.cu mx ns1.dominio.cu


Saludos.
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Re: bug en bind 9 sin solucion?

2008-08-28 Thread Luis Rondon Paz
 El Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:29:13 -0400 (CDT)
 Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED] *   IN  MX  1
 ns1.dominio.cu.
 IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
 IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 minaz.cu escribió:

 hola amigos

 me esta ocurriendo lo siguiente en un dns que tengo configurado por aqui
 pues tengo definido registros mx y registros IN A


 sucede que cuando pongo registros IN A
 los registros mx de un subdominio  desaparecen automaticamente
 aqui lespongo un ejemplo de configuracion


 dominio.cu.   IN  NS  ns1.dominio.cu.
 IN  NS  ns2.dominio.cu.
 IN  NS  ms3.dominio.cu.


 *   IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
 IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
 IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.




 mx3.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.1
 ns2.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.2
 ns1.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.3



 pepe.dominio.cu.  IN CNAME ns1.dominio.cu.


 ---

 cuando trato de resolver a pepe.minaz.cu desde registro mx
 me dice que *** Can't find pepe.dominio.cu: No answer


 alguna idea de que puede estar mal en esta configuracion ?
 o acao eso puede ser un bug ?
 pues antes no me havía pasado esto.

 gracias de antemano


 La verdad es que no acabo de entender bien tu problema. Por un lado
 hablas de subdominios, pero aquí solo veo un dominio: dominio.cu (sí, ya
 sé, es un subdominio de cu pero tú solo gestionas -por lo que parece-
 dominio.cu).

 Por otro lado, si esta es tu configuración completa, le veo un fallo.
 Cuando alguien pregunte por loquesea.dominio.cu para tipo de registro
 mx le responderá con un ns1.dominio.cu, pero cuando sea preguntado por
 los registros de tipo mx que haya en dominio.cu (como suelen hacer los
 servidores de correo) no podrá responderle nada.

 Si cambias tus registros MX por

 *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
 @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
 @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.

 aparecerán ns2 y mx3 como respuestas a la consulta de registros mx a
 dominio.cu y
 ns1 a las consultas mx sobre pon_algo_aquí.dominio.cu.

 Esta otra
 *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
 @IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
 @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
 @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.

 Debe responder ns1, ns2 y mx3 a las consultas mx sobre dominio.cu y ns1
 a las consultas mx sobre el_nombre_que_se_te_ocurra.dominio.cu

 No sé si te he ayudado o no tenía nada que ver con tu pregunta.

 Saludos.
 --
 Manolo Díaz


sigo embarcado pues no me ve el subdominio desde yahoo.es

mira

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realmente no entiendo porque hace eso

aqui esta la config del dns a ver que puedo tener mal puesto








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$ttl 38400
@   IN  SOA dns1.dominio.cu. root.dominio.cu. (
2008060358
10800
3600
604800
38400 )



dominio.cu.   IN  NS  ns1.dominio.cu.cu.
IN  NS  ns2.dominio.cu.cu.
IN  NS  mx3.dominio.cu.cu.


*IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.cu.
@IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.cu.
@IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
@IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.



mx3.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.1
ns2.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.2
ns1.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.3


hercules.dominio.cu.IN  A   172.16.1.3


mail1.dominio.cu. IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.

www.dominio.cu.   IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.

www.padrito.dominio.cu.  IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.
andresito.dominio.cu.IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.



angel.pepe.dominio.cu.  IN CNAMEns1.dominio.cu.
webmail.subdominio.pepe.dominio.cu. IN CNAME ns1.dominio.cu.




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Re: bug en bind 9 sin solucion?

2008-08-28 Thread Manolo Díaz
El Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:14:21 -0400 (CDT)
Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

  El Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:29:13 -0400 (CDT)
  Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED] *   IN  MX  1
  ns1.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
  minaz.cu escribió:
 
  hola amigos
 
  me esta ocurriendo lo siguiente en un dns que tengo configurado por aqui
  pues tengo definido registros mx y registros IN A
 
 
  sucede que cuando pongo registros IN A
  los registros mx de un subdominio  desaparecen automaticamente
  aqui lespongo un ejemplo de configuracion
 
 
  dominio.cu.   IN  NS  ns1.dominio.cu.
  IN  NS  ns2.dominio.cu.
  IN  NS  ms3.dominio.cu.
 
 
  *   IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
 
 
 
  mx3.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.1
  ns2.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.2
  ns1.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.3
 
 
 
  pepe.dominio.cu.  IN CNAME ns1.dominio.cu.
 
 
  ---
 
  cuando trato de resolver a pepe.minaz.cu desde registro mx
  me dice que *** Can't find pepe.dominio.cu: No answer
 
 
  alguna idea de que puede estar mal en esta configuracion ?
  o acao eso puede ser un bug ?
  pues antes no me havía pasado esto.
 
  gracias de antemano
 
 
  La verdad es que no acabo de entender bien tu problema. Por un lado
  hablas de subdominios, pero aquí solo veo un dominio: dominio.cu (sí, ya
  sé, es un subdominio de cu pero tú solo gestionas -por lo que parece-
  dominio.cu).
 
  Por otro lado, si esta es tu configuración completa, le veo un fallo.
  Cuando alguien pregunte por loquesea.dominio.cu para tipo de registro
  mx le responderá con un ns1.dominio.cu, pero cuando sea preguntado por
  los registros de tipo mx que haya en dominio.cu (como suelen hacer los
  servidores de correo) no podrá responderle nada.
 
  Si cambias tus registros MX por
 
  *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
  aparecerán ns2 y mx3 como respuestas a la consulta de registros mx a
  dominio.cu y
  ns1 a las consultas mx sobre pon_algo_aquí.dominio.cu.
 
  Esta otra
  *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
  Debe responder ns1, ns2 y mx3 a las consultas mx sobre dominio.cu y ns1
  a las consultas mx sobre el_nombre_que_se_te_ocurra.dominio.cu
 
  No sé si te he ayudado o no tenía nada que ver con tu pregunta.
 
  Saludos.
  --
  Manolo Díaz
 
 
 sigo embarcado pues no me ve el subdominio desde yahoo.es
 
 mira
 
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 realmente no entiendo porque hace eso
 
 aqui esta la config del dns a ver que puedo tener mal puesto
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -
 
 $ttl 38400
 @   IN  SOA dns1.dominio.cu. root.dominio.cu. (
 2008060358
 10800
 3600
 604800
 38400 )
 
 
 
 dominio.cu.   IN  NS  ns1.dominio.cu.cu.
 IN  NS  ns2.dominio.cu.cu.
 IN  NS  mx3.dominio.cu.cu.
 
 
 *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.cu.
 @IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.cu.
 @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
 @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
 
 
 mx3.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.1
 ns2.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.2
 ns1.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.3
 
 
 hercules.dominio.cu.IN  A   172.16.1.3
 
 
 mail1.dominio.cu. IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.
 
 www.dominio.cu.   IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.
 
 www.padrito.dominio.cu.  IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.
 andresito.dominio.cu.IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.
 
 
 
 angel.pepe.dominio.cu.  IN CNAMEns1.dominio.cu.
 webmail.subdominio.pepe.dominio.cu. IN CNAME ns1.dominio.cu.
 
 
 
 

Tienes un tiempo de refresco de 3 horas (10800 s) y un tiempo 

Re: bug en bind 9 sin solucion?

2008-08-28 Thread Luis Rondon Paz
 El Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:14:21 -0400 (CDT)
 Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

  El Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:29:13 -0400 (CDT)
  Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED] *   IN  MX  1
  ns1.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
  minaz.cu escribió:
 
  hola amigos
 
  me esta ocurriendo lo siguiente en un dns que tengo configurado por
 aqui
  pues tengo definido registros mx y registros IN A
 
 
  sucede que cuando pongo registros IN A
  los registros mx de un subdominio  desaparecen automaticamente
  aqui lespongo un ejemplo de configuracion
 
 
  dominio.cu.   IN  NS  ns1.dominio.cu.
  IN  NS  ns2.dominio.cu.
  IN  NS  ms3.dominio.cu.
 
 
  *   IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
 
 
 
  mx3.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.1
  ns2.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.2
  ns1.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.3
 
 
 
  pepe.dominio.cu.  IN CNAME ns1.dominio.cu.
 
 
  ---
 
  cuando trato de resolver a pepe.minaz.cu desde registro mx
  me dice que *** Can't find pepe.dominio.cu: No answer
 
 
  alguna idea de que puede estar mal en esta configuracion ?
  o acao eso puede ser un bug ?
  pues antes no me havía pasado esto.
 
  gracias de antemano
 
 
  La verdad es que no acabo de entender bien tu problema. Por un lado
  hablas de subdominios, pero aquí solo veo un dominio: dominio.cu
 (sí, ya
  sé, es un subdominio de cu pero tú solo gestionas -por lo que
 parece-
  dominio.cu).
 
  Por otro lado, si esta es tu configuración completa, le veo un
 fallo.
  Cuando alguien pregunte por loquesea.dominio.cu para tipo de registro
  mx le responderá con un ns1.dominio.cu, pero cuando sea preguntado
 por
  los registros de tipo mx que haya en dominio.cu (como suelen hacer los
  servidores de correo) no podrá responderle nada.
 
  Si cambias tus registros MX por
 
  *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
  aparecerán ns2 y mx3 como respuestas a la consulta de registros mx
 a
  dominio.cu y
  ns1 a las consultas mx sobre pon_algo_aquí.dominio.cu.
 
  Esta otra
  *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
  Debe responder ns1, ns2 y mx3 a las consultas mx sobre dominio.cu y
 ns1
  a las consultas mx sobre el_nombre_que_se_te_ocurra.dominio.cu
 
  No sé si te he ayudado o no tenía nada que ver con tu pregunta.
 
  Saludos.
  --
  Manolo Díaz
 

 sigo embarcado pues no me ve el subdominio desde yahoo.es

 mira

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 realmente no entiendo porque hace eso

 aqui esta la config del dns a ver que puedo tener mal puesto








 -

 $ttl 38400
 @   IN  SOA dns1.dominio.cu. root.dominio.cu. (
 2008060358
 10800
 3600
 604800
 38400 )



 dominio.cu.   IN  NS  ns1.dominio.cu.cu.
 IN  NS  ns2.dominio.cu.cu.
 IN  NS  mx3.dominio.cu.cu.


 *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.cu.
 @IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.cu.
 @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
 @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.



 mx3.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.1
 ns2.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.2
 ns1.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.3


 hercules.dominio.cu.IN  A   172.16.1.3


 mail1.dominio.cu. IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.

 www.dominio.cu.   IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.

 www.padrito.dominio.cu.  IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.
 andresito.dominio.cu.IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.



 angel.pepe.dominio.cu.  IN CNAMEns1.dominio.cu.
 webmail.subdominio.pepe.dominio.cu. IN CNAME ns1.dominio.cu.





 Tienes un tiempo de refresco de 3 horas (10800 s) y un 

Re: bug en bind 9 sin solucion?

2008-08-28 Thread Luis Rondon Paz
socio ya resolví el lío de los mx

pero el problema de los registros IN A

O IN CNAME me tumba los registros mx del dominio
y subdominios




 El Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:14:21 -0400 (CDT)
 Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

  El Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:29:13 -0400 (CDT)
  Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED] *   IN  MX  1
  ns1.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
  minaz.cu escribió:
 
  hola amigos
 
  me esta ocurriendo lo siguiente en un dns que tengo configurado por
 aqui
  pues tengo definido registros mx y registros IN A
 
 
  sucede que cuando pongo registros IN A
  los registros mx de un subdominio  desaparecen automaticamente
  aqui lespongo un ejemplo de configuracion
 
 
  dominio.cu.   IN  NS  ns1.dominio.cu.
  IN  NS  ns2.dominio.cu.
  IN  NS  ms3.dominio.cu.
 
 
  *   IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
 
 
 
  mx3.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.1
  ns2.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.2
  ns1.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.3
 
 
 
  pepe.dominio.cu.  IN CNAME ns1.dominio.cu.
 
 
  ---
 
  cuando trato de resolver a pepe.minaz.cu desde registro mx
  me dice que *** Can't find pepe.dominio.cu: No answer
 
 
  alguna idea de que puede estar mal en esta configuracion ?
  o acao eso puede ser un bug ?
  pues antes no me havía pasado esto.
 
  gracias de antemano
 
 
  La verdad es que no acabo de entender bien tu problema. Por un lado
  hablas de subdominios, pero aquí solo veo un dominio: dominio.cu
 (sí, ya
  sé, es un subdominio de cu pero tú solo gestionas -por lo que
 parece-
  dominio.cu).
 
  Por otro lado, si esta es tu configuración completa, le veo un
 fallo.
  Cuando alguien pregunte por loquesea.dominio.cu para tipo de registro
  mx le responderá con un ns1.dominio.cu, pero cuando sea preguntado
 por
  los registros de tipo mx que haya en dominio.cu (como suelen hacer los
  servidores de correo) no podrá responderle nada.
 
  Si cambias tus registros MX por
 
  *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
  aparecerán ns2 y mx3 como respuestas a la consulta de registros mx
 a
  dominio.cu y
  ns1 a las consultas mx sobre pon_algo_aquí.dominio.cu.
 
  Esta otra
  *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
  @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.
 
  Debe responder ns1, ns2 y mx3 a las consultas mx sobre dominio.cu y
 ns1
  a las consultas mx sobre el_nombre_que_se_te_ocurra.dominio.cu
 
  No sé si te he ayudado o no tenía nada que ver con tu pregunta.
 
  Saludos.
  --
  Manolo Díaz
 

 sigo embarcado pues no me ve el subdominio desde yahoo.es

 mira

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 realmente no entiendo porque hace eso

 aqui esta la config del dns a ver que puedo tener mal puesto








 -

 $ttl 38400
 @   IN  SOA dns1.dominio.cu. root.dominio.cu. (
 2008060358
 10800
 3600
 604800
 38400 )



 dominio.cu.   IN  NS  ns1.dominio.cu.cu.
 IN  NS  ns2.dominio.cu.cu.
 IN  NS  mx3.dominio.cu.cu.


 *IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.cu.
 @IN  MX  1 ns1.dominio.cu.cu.
 @IN  MX  5 ns2.dominio.cu.
 @IN  MX  10 mx3.dominio.cu.



 mx3.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.1
 ns2.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.2
 ns1.dominio.cu.   A   172.16.1.3


 hercules.dominio.cu.IN  A   172.16.1.3


 mail1.dominio.cu. IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.

 www.dominio.cu.   IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.

 www.padrito.dominio.cu.  IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.
 andresito.dominio.cu.IN  CNAME   ns1.dominio.cu.



 angel.pepe.dominio.cu.  IN CNAME

Re: Bug in module-assistant with alsa-source?

2008-08-13 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:56:02 +0200, Bernd Kloss wrote:
 Lenny
 
 Hello,
  
 trying to build the sounddriver for a Crystal cs46xx with
 
 module-assistant -t a-i alsa-source
 
 the following error occurs at the end of the process:
 
   CC [M]  /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/acore/timer.o
 /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/acore/timer.c: In function ‘snd_timer_request’:
 
 /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/acore/timer.c:155: error: wrong type argument to 
 unary exclamation mark

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=467421

There does not seem to be an easy fix at the moment.

You could compile your own kernel with the necessary module, either from
the upstream sources or from the Debian sources after removing the patch
that disables the cs46xx module.

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  Florian   |


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Re: Bug or normal behaviour with dpkg -S ?

2008-07-21 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Le dimanche 20 juillet 2008, Osamu Aoki a écrit :
 Hi,

   ~$ dpkg -S usr/bin/ctags
   exuberant-ctags: /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant
   ~$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/ctags
   dpkg: /usr/bin/ctags not found.
   ~$ dpkg -S '/usr/bin/ctags*'
   exuberant-ctags: /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant

 ...

   The behavior change with leading / is different issue from
   alternative symlinks.   It was just sheer luck of matching string
   which picked /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant.
 
  Indeed. To convince myself I did the search with usr/bin/editor and
  effectively, it doesn't work here, according to manual.

 Why you say it doesn't work here?  It is alternative so following
 should be shown as expected.

 $ dpkg -S bin/editor
 dpkg: *bin/editor* not found.

 This is corect response per manual: dpkg-query(1).  This command
 will not list extra files created by maintainer scripts, nor will it
 list alternatives.

Yep I understand. That was what I tried to say with it doesn't work 
here. I should have wrote It doesn't work here as expected according 
to the manual of dpkg.

  The last point I don't understand is why it do work with ctags
  which is an alternative. Is the packaging of this alternative (and
  firefox) different from those of editor alternative ?

 They use the same method.  But each package comes with different
 combination of names.

 When you run
  ~$ dpkg -S usr/bin/ctags
 it does substring match with usr/bin/ctags as I said which happens
 to pick up one of the installed package /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant (and
 this happen to be alternative but any substring matched installed
 file name could be picked).

Ok, you mean dpkg -S usr/bin/ctags will match *usr/bin/ctags* or 
something like that. Effectively it's all logical. I don't think enough 
sometimes.


 What you are doing here has nothing to do with alternative.  No
 symlinks created by alternative system is printed out by dpkg -S.

Yeah I did understand, don't worry but I didn't think about how dpkg -S 
match the query with the result.


 ...

   If you think searching alternatives is important, I guess you
   need to write tool for it.  For installed packges,
  
   /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives$ grep ctags *
   ctags:/usr/bin/ctags

 ...

   is what I do to find such.

 Just to fill gap: I find that /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/ctags has
 /usr/bin/ctags alternative defined via this acton.

 For actual alternative setting, you nee to look into:
 /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/editor
 /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/ctags

 Each file define alternative setting.  That is how you find
 alternative.

 Please read dpkg-query(1) manpage and update-alternatives(8) manpage.

Ok, I'll know it for my next search into alternatives. Without this 
information I would have searched in /etc/alternatives or an 
update-alternatives command.


 Osamu

Thomas Preud'homme



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Re: Bug or normal behaviour with dpkg -S ?

2008-07-19 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Le samedi 19 juillet 2008, Osamu Aoki a écrit :
 On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 01:18:48AM +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
  Le vendredi 18 juillet 2008, Sven Joachim a écrit :
   On 2008-07-18 19:59 +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
A few minutes ago I was reading this list and discovered ctags.
I wanted to install it and I try a apt-file ctags | grep bin
which didn't show anything.
   
Then I told myself maybe I already had it and tried a tab
completion.
   
As I did have this tools I wanted to know which package
installed it with dpkg -S /usr/bin/ctags
   
Here is the output :
   
19:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~% LANG=en_US.UTF-8 dpkg -S
/usr/bin/ctags dpkg: /usr/bin/ctags not found.
zsh: exit 1 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 dpkg -S /usr/bin/ctags
  
   Yeah, because it's managed via the alternatives system.
  
*but* :
   
19:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~% LANG=en_US.UTF-8 dpkg -S usr/bin/ctags
exuberant-ctags: /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant
   
It's related to the fact /usr/bin/ctags is a double symbolic
link as it is an alternative. dpkg -S /usr/bin/firefox
correctly answer iceweasel.
   
Is it an expected behaviour because /usr/bin/ctags could be
installed by several packages (but *has* been installed by only
one package on a given system) ?
  
   It is expected because /usr/bin/ctags is not included in _any_
   package, so dpkg does not know about it.  It's handled via
   update-alternatives(8).
  
I prefer to ask you here before filling an useless bug report.
  
   This is known and the problem is: if any package contains a real
   file /usr/bin/ctags, dpkg will clobber the symlink created by
   update-alternatives.  See http://bugs.debian.org/25759 and
   friends.
  
   Sven
 
  Yes I perfectly understand the point, but if I remove the leading /
  in my request dpkg -S do find the package which has installed a
  symlink via alternatives, as you can see with my dpkg -S
  usr/bin/ctags request.
 
  That part is great, because dpkg behave smoothly but so why dpkg
  doesn't behave exactly the same with a leading / ? Is there a
  reason, technical or logical ?

 Yes:

 ~$ dpkg -S usr/bin/ctags
 exuberant-ctags: /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant
 ~$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/ctags
 dpkg: /usr/bin/ctags not found.
 ~$ dpkg -S '/usr/bin/ctags*'
 exuberant-ctags: /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant

 See man dpkg-query:
   Normal shell wildchars are allowed in package-name-pattern.  Please
 note  you will probably have to quote package-name-pattern to prevent
 the shell from performing filename expansion. For example this will
 list all package names starting with “libc6”
 ...
   -S, --search filename-search-pattern...
  Search  for a filename from installed packages. All standard
 shell wildchars can be used in the pattern. This command will not
 list extra files created by maintainer scripts, nor will it list
 alternatives.

 Tricky part is when started with / it uses full exact match while
 without leading / it uses partial text match while

Yes, thanks for you lights. It's perfectly clear for me now.


  I insist, I would perfectly understand that dpkg can't say me which
  package did imply a symlink to an alternative because as you said
  the symlink is not in the package but result of some postinst
  script, but as dpkg does, why doesn't he do also when the request
  include a leading / ?

 The behavior change with leading / is different issue from
 alternative symlinks.   It was just sheer luck of matching string
 which picked /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant.

Indeed. To convince myself I did the search with usr/bin/editor and 
effectively, it doesn't work here, according to manual.

The last point I don't understand is why it do work with ctags which is 
an alternative. Is the packaging of this alternative (and firefox) 
different from those of editor alternative ?


 If search needs to check alternatives system data, it is much slower
 and complicated.

 If you think searching alternatives is important, I guess you need to
 write tool for it.  For installed packges,

 /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives$ grep ctags *
 ctags:/usr/bin/ctags
 ctags:ctags.1.gz
 ctags:/usr/share/man/man1/ctags.1.gz
 ctags:/usr/bin/ctags-exuberant
 ctags:/usr/share/man/man1/ctags-exuberant.1.gz
 etags:/usr/bin/ctags-exuberant
 etags:/usr/share/man/man1/ctags-exuberant.1.gz

 is what I do to find such.

 Osamu

Thank you very much Osamu.

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Re: Bug or normal behaviour with dpkg -S ?

2008-07-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

  ~$ dpkg -S usr/bin/ctags
  exuberant-ctags: /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant
  ~$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/ctags
  dpkg: /usr/bin/ctags not found.
  ~$ dpkg -S '/usr/bin/ctags*'
  exuberant-ctags: /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant
...
  The behavior change with leading / is different issue from
  alternative symlinks.   It was just sheer luck of matching string
  which picked /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant.
 
 Indeed. To convince myself I did the search with usr/bin/editor and 
 effectively, it doesn't work here, according to manual.

Why you say it doesn't work here?  It is alternative so following
should be shown as expected. 

$ dpkg -S bin/editor
dpkg: *bin/editor* not found.

This is corect response per manual: dpkg-query(1).  This command will
not list extra files created by maintainer scripts, nor will it list
alternatives.

 The last point I don't understand is why it do work with ctags which is 
 an alternative. Is the packaging of this alternative (and firefox) 
 different from those of editor alternative ?

They use the same method.  But each package comes with different
combination of names.

When you run 
 ~$ dpkg -S usr/bin/ctags
it does substring match with usr/bin/ctags as I said which happens to
pick up one of the installed package /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant (and this
happen to be alternative but any substring matched installed file name
could be picked). 

What you are doing here has nothing to do with alternative.  No symlinks
created by alternative system is printed out by dpkg -S.

...
  If you think searching alternatives is important, I guess you need to
  write tool for it.  For installed packges,
 
  /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives$ grep ctags *
  ctags:/usr/bin/ctags
...
  is what I do to find such.

Just to fill gap: I find that /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/ctags has
/usr/bin/ctags alternative defined via this acton.

For actual alternative setting, you nee to look into:
/var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/editor
/var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/ctags

Each file define alternative setting.  That is how you find alternative.

Please read dpkg-query(1) manpage and update-alternatives(8) manpage.

Osamu


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Re: Bug or normal behaviour with dpkg -S ?

2008-07-18 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-07-18 19:59 +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:

 A few minutes ago I was reading this list and discovered ctags. I wanted to 
 install it and I try a apt-file ctags | grep bin which didn't show anything.

 Then I told myself maybe I already had it and tried a tab completion.

 As I did have this tools I wanted to know which package installed it with 
 dpkg -S /usr/bin/ctags

 Here is the output : 

 19:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~% LANG=en_US.UTF-8 dpkg -S /usr/bin/ctags
 dpkg: /usr/bin/ctags not found.
 zsh: exit 1 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 dpkg -S /usr/bin/ctags

Yeah, because it's managed via the alternatives system.

 *but* :

 19:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~% LANG=en_US.UTF-8 dpkg -S usr/bin/ctags
 exuberant-ctags: /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant

 It's related to the fact /usr/bin/ctags is a double symbolic link as it is an 
 alternative. dpkg -S /usr/bin/firefox correctly answer iceweasel.

 Is it an expected behaviour because /usr/bin/ctags could be installed by 
 several packages (but *has* been installed by only one package on a given 
 system) ?

It is expected because /usr/bin/ctags is not included in _any_ package,
so dpkg does not know about it.  It's handled via update-alternatives(8).

 I prefer to ask you here before filling an useless bug report.

This is known and the problem is: if any package contains a real file
/usr/bin/ctags, dpkg will clobber the symlink created by
update-alternatives.  See http://bugs.debian.org/25759 and friends.

Sven


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Re: Bug or normal behaviour with dpkg -S ?

2008-07-18 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Le vendredi 18 juillet 2008, Sven Joachim a écrit :
 On 2008-07-18 19:59 +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
  A few minutes ago I was reading this list and discovered ctags. I
  wanted to install it and I try a apt-file ctags | grep bin which
  didn't show anything.
 
  Then I told myself maybe I already had it and tried a tab
  completion.
 
  As I did have this tools I wanted to know which package installed
  it with dpkg -S /usr/bin/ctags
 
  Here is the output :
 
  19:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~% LANG=en_US.UTF-8 dpkg -S /usr/bin/ctags
  dpkg: /usr/bin/ctags not found.
  zsh: exit 1 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 dpkg -S /usr/bin/ctags

 Yeah, because it's managed via the alternatives system.

  *but* :
 
  19:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~% LANG=en_US.UTF-8 dpkg -S usr/bin/ctags
  exuberant-ctags: /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant
 
  It's related to the fact /usr/bin/ctags is a double symbolic link
  as it is an alternative. dpkg -S /usr/bin/firefox correctly answer
  iceweasel.
 
  Is it an expected behaviour because /usr/bin/ctags could be
  installed by several packages (but *has* been installed by only one
  package on a given system) ?

 It is expected because /usr/bin/ctags is not included in _any_
 package, so dpkg does not know about it.  It's handled via
 update-alternatives(8).

  I prefer to ask you here before filling an useless bug report.

 This is known and the problem is: if any package contains a real file
 /usr/bin/ctags, dpkg will clobber the symlink created by
 update-alternatives.  See http://bugs.debian.org/25759 and friends.

 Sven

Yes I perfectly understand the point, but if I remove the leading / in 
my request dpkg -S do find the package which has installed a symlink 
via alternatives, as you can see with my dpkg -S usr/bin/ctags request.

That part is great, because dpkg behave smoothly but so why dpkg doesn't 
behave exactly the same with a leading / ? Is there a reason, technical 
or logical ?

I insist, I would perfectly understand that dpkg can't say me which 
package did imply a symlink to an alternative because as you said the 
symlink is not in the package but result of some postinst script, but 
as dpkg does, why doesn't he do also when the request include a 
leading / ?

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Re: Bug or normal behaviour with dpkg -S ?

2008-07-18 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 01:18:48AM +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
 Le vendredi 18 juillet 2008, Sven Joachim a écrit :
  On 2008-07-18 19:59 +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
   A few minutes ago I was reading this list and discovered ctags. I
   wanted to install it and I try a apt-file ctags | grep bin which
   didn't show anything.
  
   Then I told myself maybe I already had it and tried a tab
   completion.
  
   As I did have this tools I wanted to know which package installed
   it with dpkg -S /usr/bin/ctags
  
   Here is the output :
  
   19:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~% LANG=en_US.UTF-8 dpkg -S /usr/bin/ctags
   dpkg: /usr/bin/ctags not found.
   zsh: exit 1 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 dpkg -S /usr/bin/ctags
 
  Yeah, because it's managed via the alternatives system.
 
   *but* :
  
   19:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~% LANG=en_US.UTF-8 dpkg -S usr/bin/ctags
   exuberant-ctags: /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant
  
   It's related to the fact /usr/bin/ctags is a double symbolic link
   as it is an alternative. dpkg -S /usr/bin/firefox correctly answer
   iceweasel.
  
   Is it an expected behaviour because /usr/bin/ctags could be
   installed by several packages (but *has* been installed by only one
   package on a given system) ?
 
  It is expected because /usr/bin/ctags is not included in _any_
  package, so dpkg does not know about it.  It's handled via
  update-alternatives(8).
 
   I prefer to ask you here before filling an useless bug report.
 
  This is known and the problem is: if any package contains a real file
  /usr/bin/ctags, dpkg will clobber the symlink created by
  update-alternatives.  See http://bugs.debian.org/25759 and friends.
 
  Sven
 
 Yes I perfectly understand the point, but if I remove the leading / in 
 my request dpkg -S do find the package which has installed a symlink 
 via alternatives, as you can see with my dpkg -S usr/bin/ctags request.
 
 That part is great, because dpkg behave smoothly but so why dpkg doesn't 
 behave exactly the same with a leading / ? Is there a reason, technical 
 or logical ?

Yes:

~$ dpkg -S usr/bin/ctags
exuberant-ctags: /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant
~$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/ctags
dpkg: /usr/bin/ctags not found.
~$ dpkg -S '/usr/bin/ctags*'
exuberant-ctags: /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant

See man dpkg-query:
  Normal shell wildchars are allowed in package-name-pattern.  Please note  you
  will probably have to quote package-name-pattern to prevent the shell from
  performing filename expansion. For example this will list all package names
  starting with “libc6”
...
  -S, --search filename-search-pattern...
 Search  for a filename from installed packages. All standard shell
 wildchars can be used in the pattern. This command will not list extra 
 files created by maintainer scripts, nor will it list alternatives.

Tricky part is when started with / it uses full exact match while without
leading / it uses partial text match while


 I insist, I would perfectly understand that dpkg can't say me which 
 package did imply a symlink to an alternative because as you said the 
 symlink is not in the package but result of some postinst script, but 
 as dpkg does, why doesn't he do also when the request include a 
 leading / ?

The behavior change with leading / is different issue from alternative
symlinks.   It was just sheer luck of matching string which picked
/usr/bin/ctags-exuberant.

If search needs to check alternatives system data, it is much slower and 
complicated.

If you think searching alternatives is important, I guess you need to write 
tool for it.  For installed packges, 

/var/lib/dpkg/alternatives$ grep ctags *
ctags:/usr/bin/ctags
ctags:ctags.1.gz
ctags:/usr/share/man/man1/ctags.1.gz
ctags:/usr/bin/ctags-exuberant
ctags:/usr/share/man/man1/ctags-exuberant.1.gz
etags:/usr/bin/ctags-exuberant
etags:/usr/share/man/man1/ctags-exuberant.1.gz

is what I do to find such.

Osamu


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RE: Bug in Nautilus

2008-06-17 Thread João Batista Amorim de oliveira Junior

I'm too. Every try acess to my laptop, when a folder start with big letter tha 
happeined.
 
 



Subject: Bug in NautilusFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tue, 17 Jun 
2008 13:56:00 +0200
Ciao a tutti, ho un problema nell'accesso ad una condivisione samba.Quanto 
tento di montarla in nautilus crasha tutto e nautilus si riavvia. Ho segnalato 
il bug tramite bug-buddy ma pare che sia un bug già stato risolto qui.. 
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=522534Ora il problema è che 
nonostante io aggiorni sempre la mia lenny, non capisco perchè continua a 
persistere il problema... Che non sia stato aggiornato il pacchetto in questi 
mesi???E' possibile applicare una sorta di patch??Grazie, Marco. 
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Re: Bug in Nautilus

2008-06-17 Thread Simon Jolle sjolle
On 06/17/2008 01:56 PM, Marco wrote:
 Ciao a tutti, ho un problema nell'accesso ad una condivisione samba.
 Quanto tento di montarla in nautilus crasha tutto e nautilus si riavvia.
 Ho segnalato il bug tramite bug-buddy ma pare che sia un bug già stato
 risolto qui.. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=522534
 
 Ora il problema è che nonostante io aggiorni sempre la mia lenny, non
 capisco perchè continua a persistere il problema... Che non sia stato
 aggiornato il pacchetto in questi mesi???
 E' possibile applicare una sorta di patch??
 
 Grazie, Marco.

Hi Marco

This is an English speaking mailing list.

For people without Italian skills, here Google[TM] Translation:

 Hello to all, I have a problem in access to a samba share.
 As I try to mount in nautilus crasha everything and nautilus restarts.
 I reported the bug by bug-buddy but it seems that it is a bug already been
 resolved here .. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=522534
 
 Now the problem is that although I always update my lenny not
 I understand why continues to this problem ... What has not been
 updated package in recent months?
 E 'can apply a sort of patch?
 
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Re: Bug in Nautilus

2008-06-17 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
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João Batista Amorim de oliveira Junior wrote:
 
 I'm too. Every try acess to my laptop, when a folder start with big
 letter tha happeined.
  
  
 
 
 Subject: Bug in Nautilus
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:56:00 +0200
 
 Ciao a tutti, ho un problema nell'accesso ad una condivisione samba.
 Quanto tento di montarla in nautilus crasha tutto e nautilus si riavvia.
 Ho segnalato il bug tramite bug-buddy ma pare che sia un bug già stato
 risolto qui.. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=522534
 
 Ora il problema è che nonostante io aggiorni sempre la mia lenny, non
 capisco perchè continua a persistere il problema... Che non sia stato
 aggiornato il pacchetto in questi mesi???
 E' possibile applicare una sorta di patch??
 
 Grazie, Marco.
 
 
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Re: Bug#484834: [Fwd: Bug#484834: console-data: please drop trf (Turkish F layout) in the udeb]

2008-06-07 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Recai Oktaş ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 There are actually plenty of trf users in Turkey, especially in the
 government offices.  So I strongly disagree with this proposal.


OK, that definitely closes the issue, then.

Hopefully, some day, the Turkish Standard Organization would
standardize one of those and push harder for adopting it. That would
be good as I think it's probably quite an awful nightmare to have two
different possible layouts in the same country for computers.

What is the most used of both ?




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Re: Bug#484834: [Fwd: Bug#484834: console-data: please drop trf (Turkish F layout) in the udeb]

2008-06-07 Thread Devrim Esenturk






Christian Perrier wrote:

  Quoting Recai Oktaş ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

  
  
There are actually plenty of trf users in Turkey, especially in the
government offices.  So I strongly disagree with this proposal.

  
  

OK, that definitely closes the issue, then.

Hopefully, some day, the Turkish Standard Organization would
standardize one of those and push harder for adopting it. That would
be good as I think it's probably quite an awful nightmare to have two
different possible layouts in the same country for computers.

What is the most used of both ?


  


Most used is trq. But many schools teach trf for fast type writing and
as Recai mentioned government uses that a lot.
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Re: BUG: Epiphany and Evolution start in offline mode when I am online wireless

2008-05-31 Thread Robin
2008/5/31 Peer Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Package: unknown
 Version: NN

 I am connected to the Internet via an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
 (iwl3945 module). Epiphany and Evolution work fine, but always start in
 offline mode. To connect to any site resp. receive/send e-mail, I have
 to uncheck the item Work offline in the Files menu of
 Epiphany/Evolution. Iceweasel/Firefox behaves different and starts in
 online mode. Lynx and ping also work fine from the start.

 Perhaphs its a bug in Gnome: When I am connected wireless the network
 manager always shows the not connected icon, even when I am online.
 Connecting wired via eth0 cures the problem. Perhaps Gnome notifies
 all Gnome-native apps that I am offline when I am using wlan0 (because
 eth0 is dead).

 I am using Debian GNU/Linux Lenny (testing), kernel 2.6.24-1-amd64 #1
 SMP, and Gnome 2.22.1.



Has the same problem a while ago. I solved it with sledgehammer approach and
got rid of Network Manager. If you need to use NM I'd suggest installing
gconf-editor and see if you can find any settings related to your issue.

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Re: BUG: Epiphany and Evolution start in offline mode when I am online wireless

2008-05-31 Thread Predrag Gavrilovic
As for epiphany, you should turn off (using gconf-editor)
apps/epiphany/general/managed_network. I'm not sure, but I beleive it
was allready mentioned on the list( I saw it somewhere). It was
annoying for me to.

I do not use Evolution much,  but I can see
apps/evolution/shell/start_offline in gconf-editor.

Looks that Network Manager thinks you are offline unless interfaces
are in roaming mode and connected. That means that even if
interfaces are properly configured trough /etc/network/interfaces and
connected, NM thinks you are offline. There is bug #415891 reported as
I can see, and things are going to improve in newer versions of NM.



On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Peer Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Package: unknown
 Version: NN

 I am connected to the Internet via an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
 (iwl3945 module). Epiphany and Evolution work fine, but always start in
 offline mode. To connect to any site resp. receive/send e-mail, I have
 to uncheck the item Work offline in the Files menu of
 Epiphany/Evolution. Iceweasel/Firefox behaves different and starts in
 online mode. Lynx and ping also work fine from the start.

 Perhaphs its a bug in Gnome: When I am connected wireless the network
 manager always shows the not connected icon, even when I am online.
 Connecting wired via eth0 cures the problem. Perhaps Gnome notifies
 all Gnome-native apps that I am offline when I am using wlan0 (because
 eth0 is dead).

 I am using Debian GNU/Linux Lenny (testing), kernel 2.6.24-1-amd64 #1
 SMP, and Gnome 2.22.1.



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Re: bug à la génération de thumbnails dans nautilus

2008-05-06 Thread Sylvain Sauvage
KRS, mardi 6 mai 2008, 09:09:03 CEST
 
 Bonjour,

’jour,

 Je suis sous Ubuntu 8.04 et Nautilus refuse de generer
 certaines miniatures de fichiers vidéos qui sont pourtant
 lisibles dans Totem-Gstreamer. Ce sont des .mkv et des .ogm,
 certains de ces fichiers sont miniaturisés d'autres pas(et
 ça ne semble pas en rapport avec le codec vidéo), tout
 mes .avi le sont par contre.
 
 Sauriez-vous comment lancer une génération de thumbnails
 depuis la ligne de commande afin de constater les éventuels
 messages d'erreur?

  Ce ne serait pas simplement dû à la taille des fichiers ?
(P.ex. KDE ne fait pas de miniature pour des fichiers plus gros
que 1 ou 2 Mio (c’est une option).)

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Re: Bug#477197: Dead ~

2008-04-23 Thread Christian Perrier
(CC'ed to -spanish mailing lists. Please DON'T CC the list in answers)

(I dislike the current momentum of me too about this bug. I suspect
something popped into a -user mailing list of Spanish users but, hey
ladies and gentlment, I think the maintainers of this package got the
point. Spanish users don't like the behaviour change for AltGr+4, no
need to make a metoo-contest)

Quoting Tako Schotanus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 I don't like the dead tilde either because it really is useless in spanish.
 But if we change it we should maybe think about the dead ^ as well?
 Because it's just as useless, it's never used in spanish but quite a bit in
 programming/regular expressions etc
 And if we're busy anyway, why not change the dead back quote? (`)
 Spanish does not use them either, only the forward quote.

Don't.

Please don't change keyboard mappings randomly. There are standards
for many keymaps and these should be respected as much as possible
*and keep the established practices*.

This is why I think the dead_tilde change should be reverted even if
it conforms to a standard (I didn't check but that's very possible
because of that being the behaviour in MS Windows). This is
*established practice*.

But this is also why I think that *no other* behaviour should be
changed! If the circumflex is a dead key on Spanish keymap, then leave
it as it is.

Also, please all think that Spanish keymaps are not only used for
Castellano, but also for Catalan, Galician, Basque (limiting /self to
languages for which an important l10n effort happens in FLOSS), so the
needs for these languages should be also considered. Catalan uses
grave accents, for instance.

And, well, being able to type correct French with a Spanish keyboard
is not that stupid, right? :-)

 
 Dunno, maybe it would be possible to have two diferent key maps?
 One where only the ´ is dead while all others aren't and one that conforms
 to what is the norm on other sytems?

I sincerely hope that xkb maintainers will *never* make the mistake
that has been done with console keymaps where dozens of various funky
keymaps are floating all around, adding a lot to confusion.



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Re: bug tracking, especially openoffice

2008-04-14 Thread Adam Hardy

NN_il_Confusionario on 13/04/08 17:11, wrote:

On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 01:16:37PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464402



From that page:


  Tags: moreinfo;

[snip]

  Works for me.

[snip]
 
  Of course, if we *do* find out which package is at fault we should fix

  OOos dependencies, but...

Which means that the reporter and the mantainer have no idea of where
the problem could really be. In particoular, the mantainer could not
reproduce the problem.

   Linkname: Debian -- Debian BTS -- developer info
URL: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#tags



I don't see how you know this person is the maintainer. Are you just assuming?

I was looking for one of open  forwarded  pending  fixed  done statuses.

Regards
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Re: bug tracking, especially openoffice

2008-04-14 Thread Adam Hardy

Paul Johnson on 13/04/08 18:43, wrote:

On Sunday 13 April 2008 05:16:37 am Adam Hardy wrote:


How do I do that - where do I look?


Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]



That gives me the following reply:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SMTP error from remote server after RCPT command:
host bugs.debian.org[140.211.166.43]:
550 unknown user

So I tried [EMAIL PROTECTED] but that hasn't responded at all.


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Re: bug tracking, especially openoffice

2008-04-14 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-04-14 11:19 +0200, Adam Hardy wrote:

 Paul Johnson on 13/04/08 18:43, wrote:
 On Sunday 13 April 2008 05:16:37 am Adam Hardy wrote:

 How do I do that - where do I look?

 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 That gives me the following reply:

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 SMTP error from remote server after RCPT command:
 host bugs.debian.org[140.211.166.43]:
 550 unknown user

Obviously you need to substitute the actual number of the bug, as you
have found out.

 So I tried [EMAIL PROTECTED] but that hasn't responded at all.

You should retrieve a notification mail after some time (it usually
takes ~10 minutes, but may also take hours sometimes).  You will
probably not receive a friendly response from the package maintainer if
you send empty messages (it just appeared on the web:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464402#27).

Sven


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Re: bug tracking, especially openoffice

2008-04-14 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:27:02AM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:
 NN_il_Confusionario on 13/04/08 17:11, wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 01:16:37PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464402
   Tags: moreinfo;
 I don't see how you know this person is the maintainer. Are you just 
 assuming?

I assumed that the tag moreinfo was set by a maintainer of the debian
package (I am not able to see any other reasonable possibility).

Also, check the link in that page: http://people.debian.org/~rene/

In any case,

 apt-cache show openoffice.org|grep ^Maintainer
Maintainer: Debian OpenOffice Team [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Then go to the first hit in the google search

   Linkname: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rene - Google Search
URL:
  http://www.google.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]btnG=Searchhl=enie=ISO-8859-1

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Re: bug tracking, especially openoffice

2008-04-14 Thread Adam Hardy

Sven Joachim on 14/04/08 10:51, wrote:

On 2008-04-14 11:19 +0200, Adam Hardy wrote:


Paul Johnson on 13/04/08 18:43, wrote:

On Sunday 13 April 2008 05:16:37 am Adam Hardy wrote:


How do I do that - where do I look?

Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]


That gives me the following reply:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SMTP error from remote server after RCPT command:
host bugs.debian.org[140.211.166.43]:
550 unknown user


Obviously you need to substitute the actual number of the bug, as you
have found out.


So I tried [EMAIL PROTECTED] but that hasn't responded at all.


You should retrieve a notification mail after some time (it usually
takes ~10 minutes, but may also take hours sometimes).  You will
probably not receive a friendly response from the package maintainer if
you send empty messages (it just appeared on the web:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464402#27).


Oh! I thought the previous poster suggested I should email that address to 
receive a status report a la majordomo mailing list commands. Sorry about that!



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Re: bug tracking, especially openoffice

2008-04-14 Thread Adam Hardy

NN_il_Confusionario on 14/04/08 11:55, wrote:

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:27:02AM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:

NN_il_Confusionario on 13/04/08 17:11, wrote:

On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 01:16:37PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464402

 Tags: moreinfo;
I don't see how you know this person is the maintainer. Are you just 
assuming?


I assumed that the tag moreinfo was set by a maintainer of the debian
package (I am not able to see any other reasonable possibility).

Also, check the link in that page: http://people.debian.org/~rene/

In any case,

 apt-cache show openoffice.org|grep ^Maintainer
Maintainer: Debian OpenOffice Team [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Then go to the first hit in the google search

   Linkname: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rene - Google Search
URL:
  http://www.google.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]btnG=Searchhl=enie=ISO-8859-1


Sorry I didn't mean to give the impression that I'm helpless. My main line of 
inquiry is actually to find out how to ascertain all this stuff myself with the 
ease that I'm used to from many other software that have web-based issue 
trackers. I guess in this case, putting that data into a field on the bug report 
is a nice-to-have for the future.



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Re: bug tracking, especially openoffice

2008-04-13 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 01:16:37PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464402

From that page:

  Tags: moreinfo;

[snip]

  Works for me.

[snip]
 
  Of course, if we *do* find out which package is at fault we should fix
  OOos dependencies, but...

Which means that the reporter and the mantainer have no idea of where
the problem could really be. In particoular, the mantainer could not
reproduce the problem.

   Linkname: Debian -- Debian BTS -- developer info
URL: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#tags

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Re: bug tracking, especially openoffice

2008-04-13 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Adam Hardy wrote:
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464402
 
 I can do bugreport emails, but I really would like to find out more about
 this bug in openoffice, mainly whether it's fixed.
 
 How do I do that - where do I look?

Look at the picture on the right hand side which tells you which versions of
the package have this bug (reddish ovals) and in which versions it has been
fixed (greenish rectangles). From the picture, it looks like the bug was
reported on openoffice.org/1:2.3-1.3 and presumed to be present in
openoffice.org/1:2.4.0-3

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Re: bug tracking, especially openoffice

2008-04-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 13 April 2008 05:16:37 am Adam Hardy wrote:

 How do I do that - where do I look?

Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Bug#468103: DISPLAY variable not set in ssh session

2008-03-18 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 19:40:56 -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:

 It looks like the xterm package needs to depend on the xauth package -- 
 or at least recommend it.

No, this has nothing to do with xterm.  openssh-server already suggests
xauth (or actually xbase-clients), and documents why in README.Debian.

Cheers,
Julien


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Re: Bug#468161: Please increase the severity of this bug...

2008-03-12 Thread Mattias Wadenstein

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Rick Thomas wrote:



In light of the reply to bug #469919 (quoted below) from Robert Lemmen, the 
maintainer of zsync, it seems that this bug report should be interpreted as 
Either fix the problem on the cdimage side, or stop using zsync to 
distribute Debian cdimages.  If Robert can't fix the bug on his side, and it 
can't be fixed on the cdimage side, there's little point in going to the 
effort of creating useless .zsync files.


Additional data that may be helpful from bug #444159 is also quoted below.

It may be appropriate to merge the three bug reports #468161, #444159, and 
#469919.  I'm not familiar enough with the Debian BTS to know...


For information on how cdimage.d.o works:

http://ftp.acc.umu.se/about/

The redirects are _temporary_ and changes over time (order of days to 
weeks), so there is no way of updating the .zsync to reflect the new 
location.


If zsync can't and won't follow http redirects, we might as well stop 
generating them since they are indeed useless.


/Mattias Wadenstein


==reply to bug # 469919 by Robert Lemmen

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Bug#469919: zsync fails
Date:   March 11, 2008 8:13:33 AM EDT
To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

this is the same as bug #444159, zsync does not support HTTP redirects
in the moment. It is questionable if it is actually a good idea to
support them, as this would mean going through the whole redirect chain
for every microscopic request (zsync send *many* of them). in the case
of the debian isos, the .zsync files should be updated to reflect the
new position of the isos...

regards  robert

On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 04:43:33PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:


Package: zsync

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ zsync http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-
builds/sid_d-i/20080307-1/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-testing-powerpc-
businesscard.iso.zsync
 100.0% 114.7 kBps DONE

No relevent local data found - I will be downloading the whole file.
If that's not what you want, CTRL-C out. You should specify the local
file is the old version of the file to download with -i (you might
have to decompress it with gzip -d first). Or perhaps you just have
no data that helps download the file
downloading from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/sid_d-
i/20080307-1/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-testing-powerpc-businesscard.iso:
 0.0%bad status code 302
 0.0% 0.0 kBps aborted

failed to retrieve from debian-testing-powerpc-businesscard.iso
Aborting, download available in debian-testing-powerpc-
businesscard.iso.part
verifying download...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$


This is on Debian Lenny on PowerPC Macintosh

What's a bad status code 302 mean?


Rick

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===relevant excerpt from bug #444159

HTTP error 302 is Found, aka The requested resource resides
temporarily under a different URI. This means that zsync-assisted
downloads are currently failing for Debian daily test images. Looking
into the zsync source code, I can see it's using its own local HTTP
code rather than using libcurl or any of the other readily-available
HTTP client libraries. That does seem like a bit of a design bug, to
say the least. I wouldn't be surprised at all if there were multiple
security bugs in there just waiting to be found.

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Re: Bug ?! (System bootup in progress - please wait)

2008-02-25 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 11:44:34PM -0800, Hadi Nejati wrote:
 Newly I understand Our Sarge servers doesn't allow user connect via
 ssh except root.  After inspecting the problem I found something
 strange. In /etc/nologin (I didn't create this file) there is
 something like that System bootup in progress - please wait.I think
 there is the bug in my servers (I use these kernels: 2.4.27-2-386 and
 2.6.8-2-686 ).If you know what is the problem exactly let me know.

During boot, the initscripts create the nologin file.  The contents are
printed to the screen if someone attempts to login between the time that
the getty's are started and the script which removes nologin runs to
remove it.

Once the system is running, you should be able to log in as root
(despite the nologin file) and then remove the file.  This should allow
logins.  Reboot asap (I understand that it is a server) and see what
happens.

Ensure that you have backups just in case.

Doug.


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Re: Bug#465608: education has made my debian mentally challenged

2008-02-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 09:44:47AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
 On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Tyler MacDonald wrote:

 No such luck :-(

 A (hopefully final) fix for the problem was tested yesterday by
 Fabrice Lorrain [EMAIL PROTECTED] successfully.  The
 packages versioned 0.826 just hit incoming and should be propagated
 to unstable soon.

 Sorry for the inconvience and thanks for testing and patience

   Andreas.

 PS: I don't think that debian-user is an apropriate list to discuss
 problems of packages in unstable but once you are CCing this list

That would certainly cut the traffic down. :-) 
[Wondering which list is apropriate to discuss problems of packages in
unstable.]

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Re: Bug#465608: education has made my debian mentally challenged

2008-02-20 Thread Andreas Tille

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Tyler MacDonald wrote:


No such luck :-(


A (hopefully final) fix for the problem was tested yesterday by
Fabrice Lorrain [EMAIL PROTECTED] successfully.  The
packages versioned 0.826 just hit incoming and should be propagated
to unstable soon.

Sorry for the inconvience and thanks for testing and patience

  Andreas.

PS: I don't think that debian-user is an apropriate list to discuss
problems of packages in unstable but once you are CCing this list
I'm answering there as well.  Please try to avoid flooding more
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Re: Bug#456796: getopt and parameters with spaces

2008-01-08 Thread Friedhelm Usenet Waitzmann
T o n g:
Package: util-linux
Version: 2.13-8
Severity: normal


Hi, 

I seem to have found a bug of getopt from the util-linux
package. Please correct me if I'm wrong. 

I believe that the suggested way to call getopt is 

 eval set -- `getopt -o options -- $@`

But I found that it can't handle parameters with spaces well:

 $ set -- -t 'test p  1' 2

 $ getopt -o t: -- $@
  -t 'test p  1' -- '2'

Ok, so far so good, but:

 $ eval set -- `getopt -o t: -- $@`

There is nothing wrong with getopt.  As you use command
substitution (`...`) without double quotes, the output of getopt
is scanned for word splitting, thus passing the following
argument list to the eval command (I use «...» here to denote the
distinct arguments):

«set» «--» «-t» «'test» «p» «1'» «--» «'2'»

eval concatenates its arguments into a single string yielding

set -- -t 'test p 1' -- '2'

This string is then read and executed by the shell.

 $ echo '$2'
 'test p 1'

I.e., the parameter passed is test p  1, but after the
parameter parsing, it becomes test p 1 -- one space missing
before '1'.

This is what you requested by word splitting and reconcatenation
as shown above.

$ eval set -- `getopt -o t: -- $@`

or

$ eval set -- `getopt -o t: -- $@`

or

$ eval 'set -- '`getopt -o t: -- $@`

and so on are the right thing.

Comment?

Write 100 times

   I won't any more use parameter invocation (${name}) and
   command substitution (`...` or $(...)) without double quotes
   (...), unless I really want word splitting or pathname
   expansion.

(But don't use cut and paste! (:-))

I wish eval would only accept exactly one argument string; then
your mistake would have shown up as something like:

eval: superfluous arguments specified

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Re: bug no nagios 3.0b7?

2007-12-06 Thread Rafael Ganascim
Execute o Nagios de modo que ele confira os arquivos de configuração,
com a opção '-v'.

nagios -v -c /usr/local/nagios/etc/nagios.cfg

E veja no resultado do comando o que está causando o erro.

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  Estou instalando o Nagios versão 3.0b7, mas ao habilitar no nagios.cfg a
 opção cfg_file=/usr/local/nagios/etc/objects/windows.cfg
 que já vem pré configurada no arquivo (apenas comentada), ao descomentar
 esta opção e dar um restart no nagios o mesmo apresenta mensagem de erro:

 Running configuration check... CONFIG ERROR!  Restart aborted.  Check your
 Nagios configuration

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Re: [Bug wget ?] wget : Fichier « 274.swf » est déjà là; pas de récupération.

2007-10-10 Thread Bulot Grégory
Le mercredi 10 octobre 2007 14:47, Bulot Grégory a écrit :

bon je crois avoir le fin mot de l'histoire (réponse demain surement)

en fait il manquait des informations (j'ai voulu être trop 'épuré)

Pendant son execution mon script se trouve (pwd) 
là :  /home/user/LeRepertoireDeTravail

le script lance un wget :

wget -nc http://monserver.com/274.swf; -O /home/user/FichierTempRecu/274.swf

suite à un plantage le mois dernier, j'avais récupérer 'a la main 
dans /home/user/LeRepertoireDeTravail :
wget -nc http://monserver.com/274.swf; 
 puis j'avais copié ce fichier dans FichierTempRecu/.


Visiblement ne veut pas charger un fichier MonFichier si dans son répertoire 
courant ce même fichier existe et ce si la destination (-O) est ailleurs !!

est-ce reproductible chez vous, dans ce cas ptet un bug a remonter, non ?

# wget -V | head -1 ; dpkg -l wget |  grep ii
GNU Wget 1.10.2
ii  wget   1.10.2-2   retrieves files from the web



Re: [Bug wget ?] wget : Fichier « 274.swf » est déjà là; pas de récupérat ion.

2007-10-10 Thread David Prévot
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Bulot Grégory a écrit :
 Le mercredi 10 octobre 2007 14:47, Bulot Grégory a écrit :

[...]

 Visiblement ne veut pas charger un fichier MonFichier si dans son répertoire 
 courant ce même fichier existe et ce si la destination (-O) est ailleurs !!
 
 est-ce reproductible chez vous, dans ce cas ptet un bug a remonter, non ?

On dirait (je suis sous Sid) :

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ mkdir wget
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ wget -nc www.debian.org
- --09:44:25--  http://www.debian.org/
   = `index.html'
Résolution de www.debian.org... 194.109.137.218
Connexion vers www.debian.org|194.109.137.218|:80...connecté.
requête HTTP transmise, en attente de la réponse...200 OK
Longueur: 14 248 (14K) [text/html]

100%[] 14 24826.56K/s

09:44:26 (26.51 KB/s) - « index.html » sauvegardé [14248/14248]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ wget -nc www.debian.org -O wget/index.html
Fichier « index.html » est déjà là; pas de récupération.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ rm index.html
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ wget -nc www.debian.org -O wget/index.html
- --09:46:31--  http://www.debian.org/
   = `wget/index.html'
Résolution de www.debian.org... 194.109.137.218
Connexion vers www.debian.org|194.109.137.218|:80...connecté.
requête HTTP transmise, en attente de la réponse...200 OK
Longueur: 14 248 (14K) [text/html]

100%[] 14 24830.47K/s

09:46:33 (30.38 KB/s) - « wget/index.html » sauvegardé [14248/14248]



Amicalement

David
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Re: Bug#444234: xserver-xorg-video-ati: Brightness buttons not working on notebook with Radeon Mobility M6 LY

2007-09-27 Thread Brice Goglin
Version: 1:6.7.194-1


Nick Hastings wrote:
 I installed this too and it also returns the function of the
 brightness hot keys. So it seems whatever problems were introduced
 with the 6.7.193 driver have now been fixed.
   

Good to know, marking as fixed in 6.7.194 then.

Brice


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Re: Bug-Reporting

2007-09-24 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
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[redirect to debian-user-german. Request for asking smart questions.]

Ralph Rupprich wrote:
 Hallo liebe Leute,

Hallo Ralph,

wir haben auf der englischsprachigen Debian-user-Mailingliste deinen
Eintrag gefunden, der sich dort nicht zuordnen lässt, weil er dort nicht
hingehört. Bitte wende dich an [1] oder schreibe auf Englisch.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/

Bevor du das tust, solltest du dir überlegen, wie du deine Frage
kleverer formulieren kannst. Der Betreff deiner Nachricht hat nichts mit
deren Inhalt zu tun. Suche auch nach relevanten Fehlermeldungen. Falls
du englisch verstehst hilft dir hier vermutlich [2] weiter.

[2] http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Hoffe, dies hilft,

Johannes

 
 ich hab an meinem Notebook einen Fehler und kann den nicht zuordnen.
 
 Nach willkürlicher Laufzeit schaltet sich der USB-Controller oder der
 interne USB-Hub einfach ab, aber nicht komplett.
 
 Geräte, die zum Abschaltzeitpunkt noch angesteckt sind, haben zwar
 noch Strom, bekommen aber keine Daten mehr und werden vom BS auch
 nicht mehr erkannt.
 
 Geräte, die neu angesteckt werden, bekommen auch keinen Strom mehr
 (klar, der wird ja beim Anstecken durch die erkennung erst
 initiiert).
 
 Notebook: Toshiba Satellite A100-512 (PSAA2E), aktuelles BIOS (2.20 -
 trat aber unter der BIOS-Version 1.40 auch auf).
 
 Ideen ??
 
 Oder doch 'n Bug ??
 
 Gürsse,
 
 Ralph Rupprich
 

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Re: Bug Debian sur TR en UTF8

2007-09-11 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2007-09-05 17:55:02 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 Curieusement, perl a le même problème :
 
 echo eee | perl -pe 'tr /e/é/'

Pas en utilisant les bonnes options:

vin:~ locale charmap
UTF-8
vin:~ echo eee | perl -C -pe 'use utf8; tr/e/é/'
ééé

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Re: bug en aptitude ?

2007-09-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Iñigo Tejedor Arrondo escribió:
 ¿Ven bien las opciones en la página man de aptitude de debian _estable_?

 man aptitude
 ...
  \fBinstall\fR
 ...
  \fB+\fR
 ...
  \fBremove\fR, \fBpurge\fR, \fBhold\fR, \fBunhold\fR, \fBkeep\fR,
\fBreinstall\fR
 ...

 LANG=C man aptitude

 lo mismo

 LANG=en man aptitude

 lo mismo

 ¿a alguien más, o soy el único? me mosquea porque me pasa en varias
 máquinas.

 Saludos



   
Debian 4.0 stable

man aptitude


Identica respuesta:
The following actions are available:

   \fBinstall\fR
   Install one or more packages. The packages should be listed after




Re: Bug Debian sur TR en UTF8

2007-09-05 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 10:39:01AM +0200, Tony GALMICHE a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 Je viens de tomber sur un bug de la commande tr sous Debian en UTF8 :
 - http://lists.asyd.net/pipermail/shell/2007-February/001104.html
 
 Par exemple, cette commande ne fonctionne pas si les locales sont en 
 UFT8, mais elle fonctionne si je suis en ISO :
 - echo eee | tr e é

Curieusement, perl a le même problème :

echo eee | perl -pe 'tr /e/é/'

 J'aimerais savoir s'il y a un moyen de contourner ce bug car cela me 
 bloque pour convertir des fichiers.

echo eee | perl -pe 's/e/é/g'

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Re: Bug Debian sur TR en UTF8

2007-09-05 Thread Tony GALMICHE

Charles Plessy a écrit :

Le Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 10:39:01AM +0200, Tony GALMICHE a écrit :
  

Bonjour,

Je viens de tomber sur un bug de la commande tr sous Debian en UTF8 :
- http://lists.asyd.net/pipermail/shell/2007-February/001104.html

Par exemple, cette commande ne fonctionne pas si les locales sont en 
UFT8, mais elle fonctionne si je suis en ISO :

- echo eee | tr e é



Curieusement, perl a le même problème :

echo eee | perl -pe 'tr /e/é/'

  
J'aimerais savoir s'il y a un moyen de contourner ce bug car cela me 
bloque pour convertir des fichiers.


echo eee | perl -pe 's/e/é/g'
  
Je viens de résoudre mon problème en utilisant la sed qui est capable de 
faire la même chose sans les bugs :-) :

- echo ae |   sed -e 'y/ae/àé/'

Merci pour la réponse.

Tony


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RE: bug en aptitude ?

2007-09-05 Thread Gabriel Bueno


 -Mensaje original-
 De: Iñigo Tejedor Arrondo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Enviado el: Martes, 4 de Septiembre de 2007 21:02
 Para: Lista Debian
 Asunto: bug en aptitude ?
 
 
 ¿Ven bien las opciones en la página man de aptitude de debian _estable_?
 
 man aptitude
 ...
  \fBinstall\fR
 ...
  \fB+\fR
 ...
  \fBremove\fR, \fBpurge\fR, \fBhold\fR, \fBunhold\fR, \fBkeep\fR,
\fBreinstall\fR
 ...
 
 LANG=C man aptitude
 
 lo mismo
 
 LANG=en man aptitude
 
 lo mismo
 
 ¿a alguien más, o soy el único? me mosquea porque me pasa en varias
 máquinas.
 
 Saludos
 
 
 
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A mi me pasa lo mismo.

Por ej:
package\fB+\fR
   Install package.

\fBforbid-version\fR

ding \fB=version\fR t


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Re: bug en aptitude ?

2007-09-05 Thread Iñigo Tejedor Arrondo
El mar, 04-09-2007 a las 19:36 -0500, Marcos Delgado escribió:

 No eres el único, recuerdo que ese problema estaba también en la
 versión inestable, pero ya lo solucionaron. Lo acabo de verificar en
 la versión de pruebas (la que estoy usando en este momento) y también
 esta solucionado.
 Saludos.
 Marcos Delgado.

Gracias



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Re: bug en aptitude ?

2007-09-04 Thread Marcos Delgado
El 4/09/07, Iñigo Tejedor Arrondo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 ¿Ven bien las opciones en la página man de aptitude de debian _estable_?

 man aptitude
 ...
  \fBinstall\fR
 ...
  \fB+\fR
 ...
  \fBremove\fR, \fBpurge\fR, \fBhold\fR, \fBunhold\fR, \fBkeep\fR,
\fBreinstall\fR
 ...

 LANG=C man aptitude

 lo mismo

 LANG=en man aptitude

 lo mismo

 ¿a alguien más, o soy el único? me mosquea porque me pasa en varias
 máquinas.

 Saludos


No eres el único, recuerdo que ese problema estaba también en la
versión inestable, pero ya lo solucionaron. Lo acabo de verificar en
la versión de pruebas (la que estoy usando en este momento) y también
esta solucionado.
Saludos.
Marcos Delgado.



Re: ¿bug? Email que mata el servidor X

2007-08-30 Thread Carlos Zuniga
On 8/29/07, bayrouni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote:
  El MiÃ(c)rcoles, 29 de Agosto de 2007, Carlos Zuniga escribió:
  He tratado de abrirlo desde Firefox, Galeon,
 
  Utilizan Firefox como motor, prueba con otro navegador como Konqueror,
  Opera...
 
 Utilizo firefox tambien y to he tenido ningun problema.



Bien he probado también con konqueror y sucede lo mismo. Sin embargo
he probado en un ubuntu y no pasa nada. También lo reenvié a unos
amigos que utilizan suse, gentoo y debian unstable y a ellos no les
sucede nada raro.

Supongo que es un caso aislado.

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Re: ¿bug? Email que mata el servidor X

2007-08-29 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Miércoles, 29 de Agosto de 2007, Carlos Zuniga escribió:
 He tratado de abrirlo desde Firefox, Galeon,

Utilizan Firefox como motor, prueba con otro navegador como Konqueror, 
Opera...

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Re: ¿bug? Email que mata el servido r X

2007-08-29 Thread bayrouni

Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote:

El Miércoles, 29 de Agosto de 2007, Carlos Zuniga escribió:

He tratado de abrirlo desde Firefox, Galeon,


Utilizan Firefox como motor, prueba con otro navegador como Konqueror, 
Opera...



Utilizo firefox tambien y to he tenido ningun problema.


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Re: Bug sur Xfce?

2007-08-24 Thread Zuthos
David Kremer a écrit :
 Zuthos a écrit :
 Il faut utiliser l'application reportbug (aptitude install reportbug) en
 mode console, qui va utiliser le mta (mail transport agent) installe sur
 le systeme.
Merci


 Dans le rapport de bug, il faut donner le maximum d'information (dans la
 mesure du possible) , et le bug doit etre reproductible je crois.
Mince, je n'arrive pas a le reproduire.
Je vais chercher la cause exact.

J'en profite pour répondre à bernard.schoena:
bonjour,

est il possible de donner la liste des paquets installés par rapport à
xfce4 ?

ensuite, quel est le shell employé avec le terminal x11
Directement en mode texte ( CTRLALTF1 )

# dpkg --get-selections|grep xfce4
libxfce4mcs-client3 install
libxfce4mcs-manager3install
libxfce4util4   install
xfce4   install
xfce4-icon-themeinstall
xfce4-mailwatch-plugin  install
xfce4-mcs-manager   install
xfce4-mcs-plugins   install
xfce4-mixer install
xfce4-mixer-alsainstall
xfce4-mount-plugin  install
xfce4-panel install
xfce4-session   install
xfce4-terminal  install
xfce4-utils instal

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Re: Bug sur Xfce?

2007-08-23 Thread David Kremer

Zuthos a écrit :

J'ai un comportement bizare de xfce.
SI j'ouvre une session avec xfce, que je passe en mode console puis, que
je lance muut. Xfce plante et gdm redemare.
Je précise que j'ai essayé avec E17 et la pas de soucis.
Voila, je ne sais pas d'ou cela peut provenir, n'y comment ont fait pour
ouvrir un rapport de Bug sur un bug de cette nature.
Merci d'avance de m'indiquer la démarche a suivre.


Il faut utiliser l'application reportbug (aptitude install reportbug) en
mode console, qui va utiliser le mta (mail transport agent) installe sur
le systeme.

Dans le rapport de bug, il faut donner le maximum d'information (dans la
mesure du possible) , et le bug doit etre reproductible je crois.

Voila un lien qui indique comment avoir une trace gdb avec le paquet que
tu crois reponsable, car le mainteneur peut te demander de donner une
trace GDB :

http://wiki.debian.org/HowToGetABacktrace

En tous les cas : reportbug


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Re: Bug apt / preferences (problèmes de priorité)

2007-08-09 Thread mpg
Bonjour,

Le (on) jeudi 09 août 2007 10:00, David BERCOT a écrit (wrote) :

 Et mon fichier preferences :
 # Priorité de 100 pour les paquets de 'experimental'
 Package: *
 Pin: release a=experimental
 Pin-Priority: 100

Euh, tu es sûr qu'on commente avec # dans son /etc/apt/ptrferences ? Chez
moi, je fais (par exemple) :

Explanation: testing avec les paquets de marillat 
Explanation: ---
Package: *
Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing,l=Debian-Security
Pin-Priority: 980

Package: *
Pin: release o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,a=testing,l=Unofficial
Multimedia Packages  
Pin-Priority: 970

Package: *
Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing,l=Debian
Pin-Priority: 960

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 910

et ça marche©®...

 Et maintenant, si je fais par exemple : apt-cache policy apache2, il me

Note que pour ce que tu veux faire, tu peux te contenter de taper
apt-cache policy
et tu vois les priorités de chaque dépôt.

 Auriez-vous un comportement similaire ? Une piste de résolution ?
 
Cf ci-dessus.

Manuel.


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Re: Bug apt / preferences (problèmes de priorité)

2007-08-09 Thread David BERCOT
Le Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:42:29 +0200,
mpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 Euh, tu es sûr qu'on commente avec # dans son /etc/apt/ptrferences ?
 Chez moi, je fais (par exemple) :
 
 Explanation: testing avec les paquets de marillat 
 Explanation: ---
 Package: *
 Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing,l=Debian-Security
 Pin-Priority: 980
 
 et ça marche©®...

En tous cas, j'ai toujours fait comme ça jusqu'à hier et ça marchait
très bien...
Maintenant, je viens de modifier mon fichier et le voici :
Explanation: Priorité de 100 pour les paquets de 'experimental'
Explanation: --
Package: *
Pin: release a=experimental
Pin-Priority: 100
Explanation: Priorité de 500 pour les paquets de 'unstable'
Explanation: --
Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 500
Explanation: Priorité de 900 pour les paquets de 'testing'
Explanation: -
Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 900
Explanation: Priorité de 950 pour les paquets de 'pok3D' (pour le jeu)
Explanation: -
Package: *
Pin: origin pok3d.net
Pin-Priority: 950
Explanation: Priorité de 400 pour les paquets de
'kernel-archive.buildserver.net' (noyaux) Explanation:
-
Package: * Pin: origin kernel-archive.buildserver.net
Pin-Priority: 400

Mais si je fais un apt-cache policy, j'obtiens toujours :
Fichiers du paquet :
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 release a=now
 400 http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net trunk/main Packages
 release o=Debian-Kernel
archive,a=kernel-dists-trunk,l=Debian-Kernel archive,c=main origin
kernel-archive.buildserver.net 500 http://pok3d.net ./ Packages
 origin pok3d.net
 500 http://pok3d.net ./ Packages
 origin pok3d.net
 500 http://oss.oracle.com unstable/non-free Packages
 release o=Oracle,a=unstable,l=Oracle,c=non-free
 origin oss.oracle.com
 500 http://oss.oracle.com unstable/main Packages
 release o=Oracle,a=unstable,l=Oracle,c=main
 origin oss.oracle.com
 500 http://dl.google.com stable/non-free Packages
 release v=1.0,o=Google, Inc.,a=stable,l=Google,c=non-free
 origin dl.google.com
 500 http://snapshots.ekiga.net sid/main Packages
 release
o=Buildserver,a=voip-snapshots-debian-sid,l=Buildserver,c=main origin
snapshots.ekiga.net 500 http://www.joomart.de etch/main Packages
 release v=4.0 joo,o=Joo Unofficial Packages,a=stable,l=Joo
Unofficial Packages,c=main origin www.joomart.de
 500 http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/main Packages
 release o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,a=testing,l=Unofficial
Multimedia Packages,c=main origin www.debian-multimedia.org
 500 http://rarewares.org ./ Packages
 release o=xmixahlx,l=xmixahlx_rarewares-unstable,c=
 origin rarewares.org
 500 http://packages.kirya.net unstable/non-free Packages
 release v=4.0,o=Kirya,a=unstable,l=Kirya unofficial
packages,c=non-free origin packages.kirya.net
 500 http://packages.kirya.net unstable/contrib Packages
 release v=4.0,o=Kirya,a=unstable,l=Kirya unofficial
packages,c=contrib origin packages.kirya.net
 500 http://packages.kirya.net unstable/main Packages
 release v=4.0,o=Kirya,a=unstable,l=Kirya unofficial packages,c=main
 origin packages.kirya.net
   1 http://ftp.fr.debian.org experimental/non-free Packages
 release o=Debian,a=experimental,l=Debian,c=non-free
 origin ftp.fr.debian.org
   1 http://ftp.fr.debian.org experimental/contrib Packages
 release o=Debian,a=experimental,l=Debian,c=contrib
 origin ftp.fr.debian.org
   1 http://ftp.fr.debian.org experimental/main Packages
 release o=Debian,a=experimental,l=Debian,c=main
 origin ftp.fr.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,l=Debian,c=non-free
 origin ftp.fr.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org unstable/contrib Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,l=Debian,c=contrib
 origin ftp.fr.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org unstable/main Translation-fr
 500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org unstable/main Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,l=Debian,c=main
 origin ftp.fr.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org testing/non-free Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,l=Debian,c=non-free
 origin ftp.fr.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org testing/contrib Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,l=Debian,c=contrib
 origin ftp.fr.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org testing/main Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,l=Debian,c=main
 origin ftp.fr.debian.org

Donc, je pense qu'il y a autre chose...

David.


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[Résolu] Re: Bug apt / preferences (pr oblèmes de priorité)

2007-08-09 Thread David BERCOT
Finalement, pour tester, je n'ai laissé que les 2 lignes testing et
unstable dans 'preferences'. Et là, ça marche : j'ai les bonnes
priorités pour les paquets. Donc, j'ai un conflit avec d'autres
lignes...
Je vais creuser, mais le problème vient de là...

Merci pour votre aide.

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Re: Bug apt / preferences (problèmes de priorité)

2007-08-09 Thread Stéphane L.
Le 09/08/07, mpg[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 Bonjour,

 Le (on) jeudi 09 août 2007 10:00, David BERCOT a écrit (wrote) :

  Et mon fichier preferences :
  # Priorité de 100 pour les paquets de 'experimental'
  Package: *
  Pin: release a=experimental
  Pin-Priority: 100

 Euh, tu es sûr qu'on commente avec #dans son /etc/apt/ptrferences ? Chez
 moi, je fais (par exemple):

 Explanation: testing avec les paquets de marillat
 Explanation: ---

Et voilà, la réponse est aussi donnée dans man apt_preferences.

Cdlt.



Re: Bug apt / preferences (problèmes de priorité)

2007-08-09 Thread mpg
Le (on) jeudi 09 août 2007 15:00, David BERCOT a écrit (wrote) :

 Explanation: Priorité de 400 pour les paquets de
 'kernel-archive.buildserver.net' (noyaux) Explanation:
 -
 Package: * Pin: origin kernel-archive.buildserver.net
 Pin-Priority: 400
 [...]
 Mais si je fais un apt-cache policy, j'obtiens toujours :
 Fichiers du paquet :
  100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  release a=now
  400 http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net trunk/main Packages

Donc seul le dernière entrée a compté. Je voudrais pas dire de bêtises, mais
je crois qu'il faut séparer les entrées par des lignes vides sinon apt
mélange tout.

D'ailleurs ça serait pas mal qu'il y ait un outil pour vérifier si notre
apt/preferences est bien écrit. De façon générale, les fichiers de conf en
texte brut c'est le Bien, mais avec en plus des outils pour les vérifier ça
serait le Bien Absolu.

Manuel. 


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Re: Bug#436057: less, exit but left content on screen

2007-08-05 Thread Miles Bader
Tong Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 So having a keyboard command 'x' or something can allows me, 
...
 I don't know if this is possible.

Less normally allows you to change command-line options from within a
less session (just type - followed by the option...).

However, they seem to have intentionally disabled this feature with the
-X option.

I think the reason probably is that once you're inside the less session,
it's too late to change -- the terminal init command has already been
sent (or not sent), and if a program has sent the terminal init
command, technically it _has_ to send the terminal deinit command when
it exits, otherwise the terminal will be left in a potentially screwed
up state.

[E.g., at least one 'terminal init I've seen (in the past -- I don't
know if xterm works this way) moved the display window to the beginning
of the scrollback buffer; terminal deinit would then move the display
window back to the end of the scrollback buffer.  If deinit isn't sent,
things would be weird once the terminal starts scrolling again -- not
only would new output overwrite the scrollback buffer from the
beginning, but new lines that appeared at the bottom when the terminal
scrolled would not be blank!]

For this reason, probably a x command _is_ impossible (or at least,
would often yield screwy results when you used it).

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Re: Bug ktechlab en Etch

2007-07-21 Thread Jose Luis Rivas Contreras
Miguel Montiel Martinez wrote:
 Pues bien no creo que se deba al tipo de pc pues tambien lo instalé
 en mi laptop una celeron M a 1.3Ghz con 512 ram y dd de 40Gb y pues
 generó el mismo error, ahora, tampoco creo que se deba a el entorno
 pues lo mismo me hace en gnome, kde u otro tipo de gestor de ventanas,
 anteriormente lo tenia en ubuntu freeze badger (algo así creo :p ) y
 trabajao bien hasta que le hice dist upgrade en otra pc que taba por
 ahi mal puesta jejeje, espero no haberlo cansado con tanto rollo, y
 espero que me puedan ayudar, muchas gracias, pues ya busque en el
 GOOGLE y solo me arroja un fallo que no es el que busco.
 
 Gracias

Umm, pues esto me huele a un bug no específico a tus máquinas, deberías
reportarlo con un email a [EMAIL PROTECTED] y en el texto colocar
package: ktechlab y luego el contenido, por favor, escríbelo en inglés.

Saludos,
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Re: Bug ou não?

2007-07-02 Thread Julio Gimenes
Davi, agradeço sua resposta. 

Instalei vi apt-get e o serviço foi adicionado ao runlevel padrão no momento da 
instalação, vide abaixo:

mail:~# ls /etc/rc2.d/
S19slapd

mail:~# ls /etc/rc3.d/
S19slapd

mail:~# ls /etc/rc4.d/
S19slapd 

mail:~# ls /etc/rc5.d/
S19slapd

Quando o serviços estão sendo carregados é exbida a mensagem Starting 
OpenLDAP: slapd., porem assim que me logo executo o comando pgrep slapd e 
não retorna o pid. Ai executo o comando slapd e em sequida  pgrep slapd o 
resultado é 3294.

Obrigado pela sugestão de leitura, mas só quero fique claro que não estou 
afirmando que encontrei um bug, muito pelo contrário estou apenas perguntando e 
pedindo opniões de outros colegas, de fato exisite uma falha que pode ser até 
mesmo alguma incompatibilidade com outro aplicativo instalado.

Atenciosamente, 

Julio. 
- Mensagem original 
De: Davi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Enviadas: Domingo, 1 de Julho de 2007 21:06:36
Assunto: Re: Bug ou não?


Em Domingo 01 Julho 2007 20:39, Julio Gimenes escreveu:
 fiz a instalação em uma VM do Debian 4.0 e JeguePanel para testes, porem
 toda vez que reinicio o servidor ldap não faz o start automatico. Tento
 iniciar o serviço pelo comando /etc/init.d/slapd start e nenhum erro é
 apresentado, porem o mesmo não inicia, para que ele funcione tenho que
 iniciar manualmente executando o comando slapd. Viu fazer um script para
 solucionar esta falha, mas tenho dúvidas se devo reportar isso como bug ou
 não?

 O que vcs acham é BUG?


Eu _acho_ que você não adicionou o serviço ao nível de execução (runlevel) 
padrão...

http://www.istf.com.br/?page=perguntas#notabug

Não diga que você encontrou um bug

Quanto você estiver com problemas em um determinado trecho do software, não 
diga que você encontrou um bug a não ser que esteja completamente certo 
disso. Dica: a menos que você possa fornecer um patch que resolva o problema, 
ou um teste de regressão contra uma versão anterior que demonstre o 
comportamento estranho, você provavelmente não tem certeza o suficiente. Isto 
se aplica também a páginas web e a documentação; se você encontrou um “bug” 
na documentação, você deve fornecer um texto para substituição e em quais 
páginas a correção deve ser feita.

Lembre-se, existem muitos outros usuários que não estão passando pelo mesmo 
problema que você. Do contrário você teria notado isso lendo a documentação 
ou pesquisando na Web (você já fez isso, não fez?). Isso significa que é 
muito provável que é você quem está fazendo algo de errado, não o software.

O pessoal que escreveu o software se dedicou muito para fazer o melhor 
possível. Se você diz que encontrou um bug, isto significa que eles fizeram 
algo de errado, e você quase sempre irá ofendê-los – mesmo que você esteja 
certo. Não é nada diplomático gritar “bug” no assunto da mensagem.

Ao escrever sua mensagem, é melhor escrever imaginando que você fez algo de 
errado, mesmo que intimamente você saiba que encontrou um bug. Se for mesmo 
um bug, você vai ouvir isso na resposta. Faça dessa maneira e os 
desenvolvedores irão se desculpar com você no caso de um bug, ao invés de 
você ter que se desculpar com eles caso você tenha bagunçado as coisas.


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Re: Bug ou não?

2007-07-02 Thread Davi
Em Segunda 02 Julho 2007 08:34, Julio Gimenes escreveu:
 Davi, agradeço sua resposta.

[...]
De nada.

 Quando o serviços estão sendo carregados é exbida a mensagem Starting
 OpenLDAP: slapd., porem assim que me logo executo o comando pgrep slapd
 e não retorna o pid. Ai executo o comando slapd e em sequida  pgrep
 slapd o resultado é 3294.

Legal... :-)
E o ps aux?
Não fede nem cheira?

 Obrigado pela sugestão de leitura, mas só quero fique claro que não estou
 afirmando que encontrei um bug, muito pelo contrário estou apenas
 perguntando e pedindo opniões de outros colegas, de fato exisite uma falha
 que pode ser até mesmo alguma incompatibilidade com outro aplicativo
 instalado.

De nada. :-)
Mas se você leu o e-mail que eu mandei, você entendeu que _não_ deve 
fazer 
isso... :-)
Se é alguma incompatibilidade com outro aplicativo, não é um bug. É uma 
incompatibilidade... Ou seja: é um problema teu.

Isolar o problema é sempre uma boa antes de sair correndo da banheira 
gritando pela praça Bug! Bug!... :-)  (Desculpem a paródia... :-P )

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Re: Bug ou não?

2007-07-02 Thread Julio Gimenes
Davi, 

Mais uma vez obrigado.
 
Eu tenho como corrigir este problema editando o script de inicialização ou 
fazendo um script própio, minha intenção era apenas saber se alguem mais passou 
por esse problema, mas pelo jeito acredito que ninguem ou seja não é um poblema 
isolado de minhas instalações.  

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Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 2 de Julho de 2007 9:59:53
Assunto: Re: Bug ou não?


Em Segunda 02 Julho 2007 08:34, Julio Gimenes escreveu:
 Davi, agradeço sua resposta.

[...]
De nada.

 Quando o serviços estão sendo carregados é exbida a mensagem Starting
 OpenLDAP: slapd., porem assim que me logo executo o comando pgrep slapd
 e não retorna o pid. Ai executo o comando slapd e em sequida  pgrep
 slapd o resultado é 3294.

Legal... :-)
E o ps aux?
Não fede nem cheira?
  
 Nem  fede nem cheira se eu não executar o comando o slapd manualmente.
 

 Obrigado pela sugestão de leitura, mas só quero fique claro que não estou
 afirmando que encontrei um bug, muito pelo contrário estou apenas
 perguntando e pedindo opniões de outros colegas, de fato exisite uma falha
 que pode ser até mesmo alguma incompatibilidade com outro aplicativo
 instalado.

De nada. :-)
Mas se você leu o e-mail que eu mandei, você entendeu que _não_ deve fazer 
isso... :-)
Se é alguma incompatibilidade com outro aplicativo, não é um bug. É uma 
incompatibilidade... Ou seja: é um problema teu.

Isolar o problema é sempre uma boa antes de sair correndo da banheira 
gritando pela praça Bug! Bug!... :-)  (Desculpem a paródia... :-P )

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Re: Bug ou não?

2007-07-01 Thread Davi
Em Domingo 01 Julho 2007 20:39, Julio Gimenes escreveu:
 fiz a instalação em uma VM do Debian 4.0 e JeguePanel para testes, porem
 toda vez que reinicio o servidor ldap não faz o start automatico. Tento
 iniciar o serviço pelo comando /etc/init.d/slapd start e nenhum erro é
 apresentado, porem o mesmo não inicia, para que ele funcione tenho que
 iniciar manualmente executando o comando slapd. Viu fazer um script para
 solucionar esta falha, mas tenho dúvidas se devo reportar isso como bug ou
 não?

 O que vcs acham é BUG?


Eu _acho_ que você não adicionou o serviço ao nível de execução 
(runlevel) 
padrão...

http://www.istf.com.br/?page=perguntas#notabug

Não diga que você encontrou um bug

Quanto você estiver com problemas em um determinado trecho do software, não 
diga que você encontrou um bug a não ser que esteja completamente certo 
disso. Dica: a menos que você possa fornecer um patch que resolva o problema, 
ou um teste de regressão contra uma versão anterior que demonstre o 
comportamento estranho, você provavelmente não tem certeza o suficiente. Isto 
se aplica também a páginas web e a documentação; se você encontrou um “bug” 
na documentação, você deve fornecer um texto para substituição e em quais 
páginas a correção deve ser feita.

Lembre-se, existem muitos outros usuários que não estão passando pelo mesmo 
problema que você. Do contrário você teria notado isso lendo a documentação 
ou pesquisando na Web (você já fez isso, não fez?). Isso significa que é 
muito provável que é você quem está fazendo algo de errado, não o software.

O pessoal que escreveu o software se dedicou muito para fazer o melhor 
possível. Se você diz que encontrou um bug, isto significa que eles fizeram 
algo de errado, e você quase sempre irá ofendê-los – mesmo que você esteja 
certo. Não é nada diplomático gritar “bug” no assunto da mensagem.

Ao escrever sua mensagem, é melhor escrever imaginando que você fez algo de 
errado, mesmo que intimamente você saiba que encontrou um bug. Se for mesmo 
um bug, você vai ouvir isso na resposta. Faça dessa maneira e os 
desenvolvedores irão se desculpar com você no caso de um bug, ao invés de 
você ter que se desculpar com eles caso você tenha bagunçado as coisas.


HTH,

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Re: bug no pacote python-gdata?

2007-06-19 Thread Bruno Schneider

On 6/15/07, Bruno Schneider wrote:


Se o gdata precisa desse elementtree, acho que deveria existir uma
dependência nos pacotes, não? Como é que eu descubro qual pacote tem
esse módulo?


Bom, eu descobri que o elementtree fica no pacote python-elementtree
(dãh!). Também descobri uma versão melhorada do script em:

http://code.google.com/p/upload2picasa/

Esse script parece ter sido feito para Ubuntu e o pacote gdata parece
ser um diferentes no Debian. Melhor dizendo, parece que a versão do
original do Google foi alterada no pacote Debian. Mandei um e-mail
para o mantenedor do pacote para entender melhor mas ainda espero uma
resposta. Também fiz um bug report a respeito da dependência.

Algum programador Python faria a caridade de experimentar esse
upload2picasa e produzir uma versão que funcione no Debian?

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Re: bug - don't know which prog

2007-06-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 10:50:16AM -0400, Thane Poore wrote:
  Have just upgraded from Ubuntu 6.06 to Ubuntu 7.04 as instructed
 on their pages via installing Ubuntu 6.10 first.  All seems well except
 for a shutdown problem.  I had Sylpheed Claws GTK2 running with ClamAV

[snip description of a problem with Ubuntu]


Welcome to Linux, Thane.

Since this is a Ubuntu problem, you may get help on the Ubuntu
list/forum.  This is the Debian-user list.  While *buntus are based on
Debian, they make significant changes so unless we were to run Ubuntu we
probably can't help.  If we did run Ubuntu and interested in helping
others who do, we'd probably lurk on their lists/fora.

Good luck,

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Re: Bug in Console

2007-05-18 Thread Joey Hess
Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
 I've hit a bug in the code that handles character mode traffic and I'd be 
 grateful if someone could confirm the correct element under which to file 
 said bug. 'Console' is not recognised in the bug reporting system

 kernels prior to 2.6.18-x-686. i.e. 2.6.17-2-686 still works fine

Your email just answered its own question. File a bug on the kernel
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Re: Bug in Console

2007-05-18 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook

Joey Hess wrote:

Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
I've hit a bug in the code that handles character mode traffic and I'd be 
grateful if someone could confirm the correct element under which to file 
said bug. 'Console' is not recognised in the bug reporting system



kernels prior to 2.6.18-x-686. i.e. 2.6.17-2-686 still works fine


Your email just answered its own question. File a bug on the kernel
package.


Yes, thanks. I assumed that the granularity in the kernel would allow for a 
smaller unit of code.


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Re: Bug???

2007-05-17 Thread Paul Johnson
piter_p_92 wrote in Article [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
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 I've had some problem with testing ver. of debian: he don't founding hdd.
 I heard that some people have this problem too. I don't know is anybody
 who reported about this bug so i'm writing. Thx

Is it a bug, or is that particular controller or hard drive not supported or
requires some special method?

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s01.html.en

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#id270918
What evidence do you have for your claim of bug?  Hint: unless you can
provide a source-code patch that fixes the problem, or a regression test
against a previous version that demonstrates incorrect behavior, you are
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Re: Bug???

2007-05-17 Thread Jose Luis Rivas Contreras
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 Hello!
 I've had some problem with testing ver. of debian: he don't founding hdd. I 
 heard that some people have this problem too. I don't know is anybody who 
 reported about this bug so i'm writing.
 Thx

Hey, whick is your kernel? What kind of HDD are you using? Model?
Maker?? MoBo?

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Re: Bug???

2007-05-16 Thread Michael Pobega
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 07:14:34AM +0200, piter_p_92 wrote:
 Hello!  

 I've had some problem with testing ver. of debian: he don't
 founding hdd. I heard that some people have this problem too. I don't
 know is anybody who reported about this bug so i'm writing.  Thx
 
 PS sorry for my english:P

What type of hard drive do you have? Is it internal or external? And on
what date did you download the .iso?

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Re: Re: Bug???

2007-05-16 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 14:00 +0200, piter_p_92 wrote:
  Wiadomość Oryginalna 
 Od: Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Do: DebianUser List debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Kopia do: piter_p_92 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Data: 16 maja 2007 7:47
 Temat: Re: Bug???
 
  On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 07:14 +0200, piter_p_92 wrote:
   Hello!
   I've had some problem with testing ver. of debian: he don't founding
   hdd. I heard that some people have this problem too. I don't know is
   anybody who reported about this bug so i'm writing.
   Thx
   
   PS sorry for my english:P
  
  English is fine.
  
  When was this testing version of Debian downloaded? do you have a
  specific date? Is this Etch? Or Lenny?
  
  We need to know more info than testing as it is a very fast moving
  target.
 
 It's Lenny, and i think it was downloaded 11 may...

Okay, now. We need to know information about the machine he was putting
it on.

Make and Model (like a Dell, HP or Lenovo. Something like that).

Or if it is a hand built machine, we need to know the make and models
of: Motherboard, Processor, Video card, DVD/CD drive, NIC, etc...


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Re: Bug???

2007-05-15 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 07:14 +0200, piter_p_92 wrote:
 Hello!
 I've had some problem with testing ver. of debian: he don't founding
 hdd. I heard that some people have this problem too. I don't know is
 anybody who reported about this bug so i'm writing.
 Thx
 
 PS sorry for my english:P

English is fine.

When was this testing version of Debian downloaded? do you have a
specific date? Is this Etch? Or Lenny?

We need to know more info than testing as it is a very fast moving
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Re: Bug#420464: Delete key acts like backspace key in trq and tralt keymaps

2007-04-22 Thread Christian Perrier
severity 420464 normal
tags 420464 patch confirmed pending
thanks

Quoting situert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Package: console-data
 Version: 2:1.01-7
 Severity: Important
 
 Hello,
 
 In the trq.kmap.gz and tralt.kmap.gz keymaps, the
 Delete key acts like a backspace key. This occurs
 because the files
/usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/trq.kmap.gz
/usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/tralt.kmap.gz
 
 contain the following lines (near the beginning):
 
plain keycode 111 = Delete
alt   keycode 111 = Meta_Delete
 
 To fix this problem, the mentioned lines should
 be removed from the mentioned files or one should
 use Remove instead of Delete for the keycode 111.
 
 I am using Debian GNU/Linux 4.0r0 on an i686 machine.


I confirm this. Patch attached and committed to the SVN.

Before we upload a fixed version, are there any reason for which this
was intentional. Having Delete act as Backspace is really unusual in
Linux environments but there are maybe some historical reasons that
should prevent us from fixing this.

Asking to the Debian Turkish users mailing list. Please respect
Reply-To.



--- console-data-1.01/keymaps/i386/qwerty/trq.kmap.old  2007-04-22 
18:49:17.608439154 +0200
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18:51:09.405325831 +0200
@@ -1,8 +1,6 @@
 charset iso-8859-9
 keymaps 0-6,8-9,12
 include linux-with-alt-and-altgr
-   plain keycode 111 = Delete
-   alt   keycode 111 = Meta_Delete
 strings as usual
 
 keycode   1 = Escape
--- console-data-1.01/keymaps/i386/qwerty/tralt.kmap.old2007-04-22 
18:49:29.216531225 +0200
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Re: Bug#389881: RC-ness of this bug

2007-03-15 Thread Rick Thomas


On Mar 15, 2007, at 1:12 PM, Frans Pop wrote:


On Thursday 15 March 2007 17:44, Colin Watson wrote:

Personally I also feel that all possible solutions effectively make
/etc/fstab unreadable and unmaintainable.


The approach we took in Ubuntu was to put comments above each UUID
entry in /etc/fstab documenting which traditional device name they
corresponded to at the point of installation. Of course this can get
out of date, but I don't think there's really any sensible way around
that.


My main point is not that the UUID itself is not readable, but  
rather that

the lines get way too long and, depending on your editor (settings),
either get wrapped or disappear off screen. You loose the easy  
overview

of what's in fstab.
/etc/fstab used to be fairly maintainable because the info could be  
kept
in columns fairly easily for most cases and because the info would  
mostly

fit on one line [1].

IMO with a switch to UUIDs we are going to need an fstab editor  
(console

based) that:
- does the translation to the normal device names on the fly (and  
thus

  does always reflect the actual situation)
- provides different 'views' of what's in fstab
- allows to select what representation for the file system should be
  used in the fstab (traditional, path, uuid, id, ...)
- allows to set mount point, type, mount options, etc.
- sorts partitions into a logical order
- maybe knows about removable devices
- has a simple interface to add new entries for e.g. USB sticks
- ...

[1] Yeah, I know this is not true for NFS volumes and if a lot of  
options

are used, but in general it was true.



If you're going to all the trouble of a smart fstab editor, why not  
simply define a more modern format (e.g. like that of dhcpd.conf) for  
the information that can accommodate line breaks and nesting.  Change  
the name to something else, don't call it fstab; if the new file  
doesn't exist the mount command (and the rest of them that currently  
read fstab) will default to /etc/fstab if present.


The biggest problem will be identifying all the places where fstab is  
currently *assumed* to be present and making them all use the new  
file.  A library is probably needed that does the deciding of which  
format to use.


Are there POSIX/LSB/etc ramifications?

just a thought,

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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Mike McCarty wrote:

Joe Hart wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I doubt that this is specific to debian, but has anyone noticed
this bug in acroread?  I've noticed that if I print pages in reverse, I
can't print in the forward direction until I quit the program and
restart it.



What happens when you use ghostview to print the same pdf?  Or KPDF if
you use KDE?  Those are _supported_ pdf viewers, while acroread is
proprietary.

Perhaps you should take this up with Adobe, since they are the only ones
that can fix it.


Amazing. OT threads covering abortion, religion, politics etc. ad
nauseum persist for weeks with hardly a complaint, and this guy asks a
question which is actually more or less on topic, and he gets chastized.



I agree. There is a tendency on the list to chastise topical questions 
with google for it while OT threads go on for ever. BTW the list's 
track record in actually answering and solving *topical* questions, in 
my opinion, is 'C'.


Hugo




In answer, I have not noticed that. Normally, if I select reverse
order print, then I want it to stay that way, and have not as a
consequence had that problem. I'm doing some stuff which precludes
trying a test right now, but when I've got some time I'll give it
a try.

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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread Joe Hart
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Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 Mike McCarty wrote:
 Joe Hart wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I doubt that this is specific to debian, but has anyone noticed
 this bug in acroread?  I've noticed that if I print pages in reverse, I
 can't print in the forward direction until I quit the program and
 restart it.


 What happens when you use ghostview to print the same pdf?  Or KPDF if
 you use KDE?  Those are _supported_ pdf viewers, while acroread is
 proprietary.

 Perhaps you should take this up with Adobe, since they are the only ones
 that can fix it.

 Amazing. OT threads covering abortion, religion, politics etc. ad
 nauseum persist for weeks with hardly a complaint, and this guy asks a
 question which is actually more or less on topic, and he gets chastized.
 
 
 I agree. There is a tendency on the list to chastise topical questions
 with google for it while OT threads go on for ever. BTW the list's
 track record in actually answering and solving *topical* questions, in
 my opinion, is 'C'.
 
 Hugo

I've already clarified my position earlier in this thread, but I will do
it again for you.

How is it chastising to ask a user what happens with other tools?  Or to
point them to the proper support channel for the question they are asking?

I never said to use google, nor did I condemn him for using the software
that he choses to use.  From what I know about Debian, and the Linux
world in general, the freedom to choose which programs or distributions
we use is our right, and nobody should be condemning anyone else for
them choosing something other than what they chose.

So many flame wars are started because This is better better than that
type of messages.  My intention was not to start a flame war, nor was it
to insult the original poster.

Please read the whole thread before making comments like that.

As for your comment about the list itself, if you don't like the list,
then don't subscribe to it.

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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread Juergen Fiedler
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 04:30:52PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:12:39 -0400
 Juergen Fiedler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
  For documents on the web I have this inelegant and heinous trick: I
  google for them. If a doc is in PDF format, Google will give you the
  option to view it as HTML. The converted version is not always pretty,
  but more often than not sufficient to get the information I need.
  Obviously doesn't work all the time, but it has helped me out
  occasionally.
 
 Why not just use a software pdf to text / html / whatever converter,
 such as pdftotext (in xpdf-utils)?
 
 Celejar

I typically only use Google on computers that don't belong to me and
that don't have a PDF reader installed - and most of those don't have
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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:58:49 +0100
Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Celejar wrote:
  On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:23:27 +0100
  Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  [snip]
  
  As for acroread goes, it has turned into a huge package.  The version in
  my apt-cache shows 7.0.9, which is not the newest version, and it's a
  whopping 22911748 bytes.  I imagine that 8.0 is even bigger.
 
  While KPDF may not be as feature rich, it does the job, and weighs in at
  742592 bytes, and can embed nicely into konqueror.
  
  Don't forget that kpdf is based on xpdf (which is what I use).
 
 Ah the hidden dependencies.  xpdf is a dummy package, that pulls in
 xpdf-reader and xpdf-utils and xpdf-common.  Adding those up comes quite
 close to what acroread uses, so I guess my comparison is pretty useless.

Um, no.

Compressed Size:Uncompressed Size

xpdf-common 60.9258
xpdf-reader 769 1937
xpdf-utils  13933543

total   .9  5738

acroread22.9M   56M

So acroread uses about 10 times as much space as xpdf (and I haven't
even looked closely at acroread's dependencies vs. those of xpdf).

 I guess it is almost like comparing different types of apples.  The one
 thing to remember though is that all of the above mentioned files are
 open source except for acroread.  For people that are dfsg purists, they
 would balk at the idea of installing it.

I'm not a hard-line purist, but enough of one to strongly prefer the
dfsg option barring a compelling reason otherwise.

 Personally, I have no problem with proprietary software, if there is no
 viable alternative.  For example, I use the nvidia (9755) drivers
 because the open source version is pitifully slow on this system, and it
 can't support beryl.

Madwifi is one of the only non-free bits I use, and it is really in the
spirit of freedom.

Celejar


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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:11:36 -0400
Juergen Fiedler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 04:30:52PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
  On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:12:39 -0400
  Juergen Fiedler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  [snip]
  
   For documents on the web I have this inelegant and heinous trick: I
   google for them. If a doc is in PDF format, Google will give you the
   option to view it as HTML. The converted version is not always pretty,
   but more often than not sufficient to get the information I need.
   Obviously doesn't work all the time, but it has helped me out
   occasionally.
  
  Why not just use a software pdf to text / html / whatever converter,
  such as pdftotext (in xpdf-utils)?
  
  Celejar
 
 I typically only use Google on computers that don't belong to me and
 that don't have a PDF reader installed - and most of those don't have
 xpdf-utils installed, either.

Of course. I also use google's view as HTML in such situations;
waiting for Acrobat (plus its boatload of default plugins) to load can
be agonizing, especially on an older machine.

Celejar


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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:35:07 -0600
Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]

 I agree. There is a tendency on the list to chastise topical questions 
 with google for it while OT threads go on for ever. BTW the list's 
 track record in actually answering and solving *topical* questions, in 
 my opinion, is 'C'.

How should we grade? On a curve against other lists / fora? Some
objective measure?

Celejar


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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread John Hasler
Celejar wrote:
 So acroread uses about 10 times as much space as xpdf (and I haven't even
 looked closely at acroread's dependencies vs. those of xpdf).

Isn't Acroread statically linked?
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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread Joe Hart
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Celejar wrote:

 Ah the hidden dependencies.  xpdf is a dummy package, that pulls in
 xpdf-reader and xpdf-utils and xpdf-common.  Adding those up comes quite
 close to what acroread uses, so I guess my comparison is pretty useless.
 
 Um, no.
 
   Compressed Size:Uncompressed Size
 
 xpdf-common   60.9258
 xpdf-reader   769 1937
 xpdf-utils13933543
 
 total .9  5738
 
 acroread  22.9M   56M
 
 So acroread uses about 10 times as much space as xpdf (and I haven't
 even looked closely at acroread's dependencies vs. those of xpdf).


gtk2 perhaps?  That's a big one.  Of course a lot of apps need that one.
 Not my KDE ones though.


 I'm not a hard-line purist, but enough of one to strongly prefer the
 dfsg option barring a compelling reason otherwise.

I agree, yet I get berated when I point out that Debian does not support
acroread because it is proprietary to Adobe.  Go figure.

Joe

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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 04:35 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
[snip]
 I agree. There is a tendency on the list to chastise topical questions 
 with google for it while OT threads go on for ever. BTW the list's 
 track record in actually answering and solving *topical* questions, in 
 my opinion, is 'C'.

However, your grading of a C falls squarely on your ability to ask
full qualified and briefed questions that we understand. Your history
of questions isn't all that and a bag of chips you realize.

Now, I am not starting a fight here, just that smartly asked questions
and properly briefed ones at that (meaning all info needed to make an
assessment and proper determination of the actual problem) seem to be
your issue with the things you are doing.

You do have to admit, you are not doing typical Debian User stuff with
your setups. I know I am not.

I grade your topical question asking a D in some instances and at best
for initial questions a B. Though you do ask A graded question on a
regular basis.

And no, Hugo, this is not really aimed at you, just that a swathing
grade like you just gave D-U needs a swathing back. It shows that many
need to ask smarter and more informative questions before we can answer
them.
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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 10:16 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
 Celejar wrote:
  So acroread uses about 10 times as much space as xpdf (and I haven't even
  looked closely at acroread's dependencies vs. those of xpdf).
 
 Isn't Acroread statically linked?

Yes, and as a rule, Debian frowns heavily on those kinds of things.
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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread Joe Hart
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Greg Folkert wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 04:35 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 [snip]
 I agree. There is a tendency on the list to chastise topical questions 
 with google for it while OT threads go on for ever. BTW the list's 
 track record in actually answering and solving *topical* questions, in 
 my opinion, is 'C'.
 
 However, your grading of a C falls squarely on your ability to ask
 full qualified and briefed questions that we understand. Your history
 of questions isn't all that and a bag of chips you realize.
 
 Now, I am not starting a fight here, just that smartly asked questions
 and properly briefed ones at that (meaning all info needed to make an
 assessment and proper determination of the actual problem) seem to be
 your issue with the things you are doing.
 
 You do have to admit, you are not doing typical Debian User stuff with
 your setups. I know I am not.
 
 I grade your topical question asking a D in some instances and at best
 for initial questions a B. Though you do ask A graded question on a
 regular basis.
 
 And no, Hugo, this is not really aimed at you, just that a swathing
 grade like you just gave D-U needs a swathing back. It shows that many
 need to ask smarter and more informative questions before we can answer
 them.

Greg, you're spot on.

I think this calls for the infamous:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Maybe then we can get good questions instead of the:

It doesn't work when I do this, how can I make it work? type of questions.

- From what I've seen from this mailing list, it's not the type of place
where people shout RTFM and STFW, but gosh darn people should.

The man and info pages are there for a reason.

And thanks go out to the people who defend my position on dfsg.

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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 03/14/07 10:34, Joe Hart wrote:
 Celejar wrote:
 
[snip]
 
 I agree, yet I get berated when I point out that Debian does not
 support acroread because it is proprietary to Adobe.  Go figure.

Can you post a link (from the archives) to the post in which you
think you were chastised?  I've been following this link and never
got the impression that you were chastised.

 
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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread Joe Hart
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Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 03/14/07 10:34, Joe Hart wrote:
 Celejar wrote:
 
 [snip]
 I agree, yet I get  when I point out that Debian does not
 support acroread because it is proprietary to Adobe.  Go figure.
 
 Can you post a link (from the archives) to the post in which you
 think you were chastised?  I've been following this link and never
 got the impression that you were chastised.
 
 Joe
 

It's in this thread.  Link I found contains messages from 2 people who
found fault with my original reply to the OP.  I didn't say I was being
chastised, I said berated, which I define as scolded.

Mike McCarty claims that I am doing the chastising. We already know he
doesn't like Unix or Debian, we don't know which, and Hugo Vanwoerkom
who thinks this list is mediocre at helping people.

It appears that both of them think I was not being helpful and stated it
in not so polite terms.

Here's the link:

http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20070314.103507.be5da96a.en.html

I am just trying to be helpful, and when someone complains about a bug
in software that doesn't comply with the dfsg, I suggested that they try
supported software or take their problem upstream.  I don't see a
problem with my answer.

Since the original post, we have discussed the bloat of acroread and the
alternative pdf viewers, and never once did I think this was off topic
to this mailing list.  I still don't.

Joe

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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 16:34:36 +0100, Joe Hart wrote:

[...]

 I agree, yet I get berated when I point out that Debian does not support
 acroread because it is proprietary to Adobe.  Go figure.

It is probably not worth to harp on this much longer, but as far as I
remember it you received some slight criticism because the OP of this
thread asked something like I am using Adobe reader and I have this
problem, does anybody else see this? and you reacted with It is
proprietary, so how can we support it? Go talk to Adobe!.  I also found
this a bit inappropriate, considering that the OP had not asked you (or
anybody else) for support, but he just wanted to check if it is a known
general problem or if it would make sense for him to look in more detail
at his specific configuration.

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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread W Paul Mills
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Greg Folkert wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 10:16 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
 Celejar wrote:
 So acroread uses about 10 times as much space as xpdf (and I haven't even
 looked closely at acroread's dependencies vs. those of xpdf).
 Isn't Acroread statically linked?
 
 Yes, and as a rule, Debian frowns heavily on those kinds of things.

Oh!

 
 $ ldd /usr/lib/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread
 linux-gate.so.1 =  (0xe000)
 libBIB.so = not found
 libACE.so = not found
 libAGM.so = not found
 libCoolType.so = not found
 libAXE16SharedExpat.so = not found
 libJP2K.so = not found
 libResAccess.so = not found
 libdl.so.2 = /lib/tls/libdl.so.2 (0xb7f08000)
 libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xb7efa000)
 libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb7e0d000)
 libm.so.6 = /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0xb7de8000)
 libgdk_pixbuf_xlib-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf_xlib-2.0.so.0 
 (0xb7dd9000)
 libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0xb7aef000)
 libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0xb7a6e000)
 libatk-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0 (0xb7a54000)
 libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0xb7a3d000)
 libpangox-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpangox-1.0.so.0 (0xb7a32000)
 libpango-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0 (0xb79f8000)
 libgobject-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0xb79be000)
 libgmodule-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0xb79bb000)
 libglib-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0xb7929000)
 libc.so.6 = /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0xb77f6000)
 libpthread.so.0 = /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 (0xb77e4000)
 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f2e000)
 libXau.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0xb77e1000)
 libXdmcp.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xb77dc000)
 libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 (0xb77d4000)
 libcairo.so.2 = /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2 (0xb7771000)
 libfontconfig.so.1 = /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0xb7746000)
 libXrender.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0xb773e000)
 libXinerama.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0xb773b000)
 libXi.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXi.so.6 (0xb7733000)
 libXrandr.so.2 = /usr/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0xb773)
 libXcursor.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0xb7726000)
 libXfixes.so.3 = /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0xb7721000)
 librt.so.1 = /lib/tls/librt.so.1 (0xb7719000)
 libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 (0xb76ee000)
 libfreetype.so.6 = /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0xb7684000)
 libz.so.1 = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb766f000)
 libpng12.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0xb764c000)
 libexpat.so.1 = /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0xb762c000)
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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread Joe Hart
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Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 16:34:36 +0100, Joe Hart wrote:
 
 [...]
 
 I agree, yet I get berated when I point out that Debian does not support
 acroread because it is proprietary to Adobe.  Go figure.
 
 It is probably not worth to harp on this much longer, but as far as I
 remember it you received some slight criticism because the OP of this
 thread asked something like I am using Adobe reader and I have this
 problem, does anybody else see this? and you reacted with It is
 proprietary, so how can we support it? Go talk to Adobe!.  I also found
 this a bit inappropriate, considering that the OP had not asked you (or
 anybody else) for support, but he just wanted to check if it is a known
 general problem or if it would make sense for him to look in more detail
 at his specific configuration.
 

I was all prepared to forget it until Hugo spoke up.  I used much kinder
wording that that, but yes, that's basically what I said.  I already
pointed out my reasoning and my dislike for the company in question.

Incidently, only one person confirmed the behavior, it seems the
majority of people that replied in the thread use xpdf based tools so I
am not alone.

Matter dropped.  Thread closed for me.

Joe

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Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-14 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 03/14/07 14:03, Joe Hart wrote:
 Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 03/14/07 10:34, Joe Hart wrote:
 Celejar wrote:
 [snip]
 I agree, yet I get  when I point out that Debian does not
 support acroread because it is proprietary to Adobe.  Go figure.
 Can you post a link (from the archives) to the post in which you
 think you were chastised?  I've been following this link and never
 got the impression that you were chastised.
 
 Joe
 
 It's in this thread.  Link I found contains messages from 2 people who
 found fault with my original reply to the OP.  I didn't say I was being
 chastised, I said berated, which I define as scolded.
 
 Mike McCarty claims that I am doing the chastising. We already know he
 doesn't like Unix or Debian, we don't know which, and Hugo Vanwoerkom
 who thinks this list is mediocre at helping people.
 
 It appears that both of them think I was not being helpful and stated it
 in not so polite terms.
 
 Here's the link:
 
 http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20070314.103507.be5da96a.en.html
 
 I am just trying to be helpful, and when someone complains about a bug
 in software that doesn't comply with the dfsg, I suggested that they try
 supported software or take their problem upstream.  I don't see a
 problem with my answer.

That's what I thought.

However, I didn't read take this up with Adobe, since they are the
only ones that can fix it. as chastisement, since Adobe really is
the only place that can fix a bug in acroread.

OTOH, I can see where it would be interpreted as a curt or
dismissive response, even if it wasn't meant to be.

 
 Since the original post, we have discussed the bloat of acroread and the
 alternative pdf viewers, and never once did I think this was off topic
 to this mailing list.  I still don't.
 
 Joe
 
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