Re: Recording TV with Debian

2008-07-03 Thread Bob Cox
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 00:48:10 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote: 

> I have been using GNU/Linux for about ten years and I have always been
> very happy with it.
> 
> Today however I wanted to record some old video recordings from my Sony
> M8 video recorder, and I got my hands on a Pinnacle video card.
> 
> Now installing tvtime and watching the tapes is very easy and it works
> perfectly, but recording from the device.. damn.. 
> 
> First I tried mythtv, and I am sorry, but that is one bloated piece of
> shit. I am not setting up my own freaking TV station.
> 
> All the other packages I tried, either didn't work, or crashed or
> something else.

[ This is copied and pasted from a reply I made to a similar thread
about a month ago ]

If it's any help, I create DVDs from recordings made using Kaffeine with
a DVB-T card.  These are .m2t files.  I run them through ProjectX to
demultiplex into separate video and audio files and then use mplex with
the -f 8 option re-multiplex and create a DVD compliant mpeg.   (In
reality I use a bash script to do both these steps automatically and the
whole de/remux process is probably only necessary because of the DVB-T
source and its apparently inherent audio/video sync problems).  If
editing is needed then Avidemux seems pretty good, saving the edited
file with the mpeg-ps option.

I use devede to create the fully DVD compliant .iso and save lots of
time by selecting the advanced option "This file is already a
DVD/xCD-suitable MPEG-PS file".   The resultant DVDs play on normal
domestic standalone players.

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Re: Recording TV with Debian

2008-07-03 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
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On 2008-07-02 00:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I have been using GNU/Linux for about ten years and I have always been
> very happy with it.
>
> Today however I wanted to record some old video recordings from my Sony
> M8 video recorder, and I got my hands on a Pinnacle video card.
> 
> Now installing tvtime and watching the tapes is very easy and it works
> perfectly, but recording from the device.. damn.. 
> 
> First I tried mythtv, and I am sorry, but that is one bloated piece of
> shit. I am not setting up my own freaking TV station.
> 
> All the other packages I tried, either didn't work, or crashed or
> something else.
> 
> This sucks big time!

A while ago this link appeared on this list:

On 2008-06-08 00:12, Tzafrir Cohen wrote on this list:
[]
>
> A certain grumpy editor might have some:
> http://lwn.net/Articles/263387/

There are a total of three reviews for capturing [1], editing and
authoring videos.

HTH,

Johannes

[1] http://lwn.net/Articles/261820/
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Re: Recording TV with Debian

2008-07-02 Thread cothrige
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:19:12 -0300
>
> With mencode I used the following command (using PAL in my country):
>
> mencoder tv:// -tv
> driver=v4l2:input=1:norm=pal:width=640:height=480:device=/dev/video0:
> freq=775.25:adevice=/dev/dsp1:forceaudio:audiorate=32000 buffersize=64
> -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=400:keyint=30 -oac mp3lame
> -lameopts br=32:cbr:mode=3 -ffourcc divx -o "test.avi"
>
> I tried to change the options, but no matter what I did, the result was
> poor.
>
> With transcode I used this command:
>
> transcode -x v4l2=resync_margin=1:resync_interval=250,v4l2 -g 640x480
> -i /dev/video0 -p /dev/dsp -e 32000,16,2 -N 0x1 -J
> resample,levels,smartyuv,pv -w 4000 -y ffmpeg -F mpeg4 -o test.avi
>
> Which results in some larger files, but with excelent quality.
>
> Any advice on how to improve would be greatly appreciated, especially
> about the file sizes that transcode produces.

I have not used transcode in a long time, but it seems to me at first
glance that the above command has a video bitrate of 4000 whereas the
mencoder is 400.  If the mencoder command is as you have typed it here
such a low bitrate could be at least part of the trouble.

Patrick


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Re: Recording TV with Debian

2008-07-02 Thread coolzone
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:19:12 -0300
Gabriel Parrondo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> El mié, 02-07-2008 a las 04:38 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
>
> Well, the quality pretty much depends on the parameters you're using
> with mencoder. I would ask for the command you were trying, but I see
> you already solved your problem using transcode, which renders my mail
> useless ;).

Maybe not useless :-)

For other users experimenting with the same in the future. 

With mencode I used the following command (using PAL in my country):

mencoder tv:// -tv
driver=v4l2:input=1:norm=pal:width=640:height=480:device=/dev/video0:
freq=775.25:adevice=/dev/dsp1:forceaudio:audiorate=32000 buffersize=64
-ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=400:keyint=30 -oac mp3lame
-lameopts br=32:cbr:mode=3 -ffourcc divx -o "test.avi"

I tried to change the options, but no matter what I did, the result was
poor.

With transcode I used this command:

transcode -x v4l2=resync_margin=1:resync_interval=250,v4l2 -g 640x480
-i /dev/video0 -p /dev/dsp -e 32000,16,2 -N 0x1 -J
resample,levels,smartyuv,pv -w 4000 -y ffmpeg -F mpeg4 -o test.avi

Which results in some larger files, but with excelent quality.

Any advice on how to improve would be greatly appreciated, especially
about the file sizes that transcode produces.

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Re: Recording TV with Debian

2008-07-02 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
El mié, 02-07-2008 a las 04:38 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 00:48:10 +0200
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Okay, so I figured out how to capture using mencoder, but the quality
> is really bad.
> 
> What are you using to capture video?

Well, the quality pretty much depends on the parameters you're using
with mencoder. I would ask for the command you were trying, but I see
you already solved your problem using transcode, which renders my mail
useless ;).

[...]
> 

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Re: Recording TV with Debian

2008-07-02 Thread Rico Secada
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 02:04:29 +0930
Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thank you Dale, and others.

Dale I also tried using mencoder, but the result was very poor quality. 

After some testing I managed to get a very clean and good quality
recording using transcode instead.

> 2008/7/2  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 00:48:10 +0200
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Okay, so I figured out how to capture using mencoder, but the
> > quality is really bad.
> >
> > What are you using to capture video?
> >
> >> Hi.
> >>
> >> I have been using GNU/Linux for about ten years and I have always
> >> been very happy with it.
> >>
> >> Today however I wanted to record some old video recordings from my
> >> Sony M8 video recorder, and I got my hands on a Pinnacle video
> >> card.
> >>
> >> Now installing tvtime and watching the tapes is very easy and it
> >> works perfectly, but recording from the device.. damn..
> >>
> >> First I tried mythtv, and I am sorry, but that is one bloated
> >> piece of shit. I am not setting up my own freaking TV station.
> >>
> >> All the other packages I tried, either didn't work, or crashed or
> >> something else.
> >>
> >> This sucks big time!
> >>
> >> Rico.
> >>
> >> PS.: Yeah I know, this is nothing but complaining, but air was
> >> needed!
> >>
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> Hi Rico,
> 
> attached is a bash script I wrote for capturing stuff from the svideo
> input. it is set for PAL format as it the format for where I live, I
> hope it some help for you.  There is no gui enviroment needed to run
> this script.
> 
> The script is very ruff and ready atm and still need lots more work on
> it to add extra function ability to it.
> 
> Hope it some help to you
> 
> Regards
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Re: Recording TV with Debian

2008-07-02 Thread Dale
2008/7/2  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 00:48:10 +0200
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Okay, so I figured out how to capture using mencoder, but the quality
> is really bad.
>
> What are you using to capture video?
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I have been using GNU/Linux for about ten years and I have always been
>> very happy with it.
>>
>> Today however I wanted to record some old video recordings from my
>> Sony M8 video recorder, and I got my hands on a Pinnacle video card.
>>
>> Now installing tvtime and watching the tapes is very easy and it works
>> perfectly, but recording from the device.. damn..
>>
>> First I tried mythtv, and I am sorry, but that is one bloated piece of
>> shit. I am not setting up my own freaking TV station.
>>
>> All the other packages I tried, either didn't work, or crashed or
>> something else.
>>
>> This sucks big time!
>>
>> Rico.
>>
>> PS.: Yeah I know, this is nothing but complaining, but air was needed!
>>
>>
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Hi Rico,

attached is a bash script I wrote for capturing stuff from the svideo
input. it is set for PAL format as it the format for where I live, I
hope it some help for you.  There is no gui enviroment needed to run
this script.

The script is very ruff and ready atm and still need lots more work on
it to add extra function ability to it.

Hope it some help to you

Regards
Dale
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Re: Recording TV with Debian

2008-07-02 Thread j t
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:38 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 00:48:10 +0200
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What are you using to capture video?

Disclaimer: I know nothing about Pinnacle video cards (I have an
Adaptec avc2010 pci card  which works perfectly under linux).

Surely if you want to capture the digital video stream produced by the
card, you just work out the name of the raw output device which the
card produces (/dev/avcap0 in my case, but it might be /dev/video or
something else for you) and then run:

cat /dev/yourDeviceHere > yourNewVideoFileHere

For me, the line I use to capture video (with my adaptec avc2010) is:

cat /dev/avcap0 > capture.mpg

(but that's because my card produces a compressed mpeg2 stream, so I
use the file extension .mpg). This way, I get _exactly_ what the card
is producing (I edit mpeg2 stream on linux using projectX, but that's
another story).

HTH, Jaime


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Re: Recording TV with Debian

2008-07-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 12:48:10AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Today however I wanted to record some old video recordings from my Sony
> M8 video recorder, and I got my hands on a Pinnacle video card.
> 
> Now installing tvtime and watching the tapes is very easy and it works
> perfectly, but recording from the device.. damn.. 
> 
> First I tried mythtv, and I am sorry, but that is one bloated piece of
> shit. I am not setting up my own freaking TV station.
> 
> All the other packages I tried, either didn't work, or crashed or
> something else.

Have you tried VLC?

Doug.


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Re: Recording TV with Debian

2008-07-01 Thread coolzone
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 00:48:10 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Okay, so I figured out how to capture using mencoder, but the quality
is really bad.

What are you using to capture video?

> Hi.
> 
> I have been using GNU/Linux for about ten years and I have always been
> very happy with it.
> 
> Today however I wanted to record some old video recordings from my
> Sony M8 video recorder, and I got my hands on a Pinnacle video card.
> 
> Now installing tvtime and watching the tapes is very easy and it works
> perfectly, but recording from the device.. damn.. 
> 
> First I tried mythtv, and I am sorry, but that is one bloated piece of
> shit. I am not setting up my own freaking TV station.
> 
> All the other packages I tried, either didn't work, or crashed or
> something else.
> 
> This sucks big time!
> 
> Rico.
> 
> PS.: Yeah I know, this is nothing but complaining, but air was needed!
> 
> 
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Recording TV with Debian

2008-07-01 Thread coolzone
Hi.

I have been using GNU/Linux for about ten years and I have always been
very happy with it.

Today however I wanted to record some old video recordings from my Sony
M8 video recorder, and I got my hands on a Pinnacle video card.

Now installing tvtime and watching the tapes is very easy and it works
perfectly, but recording from the device.. damn.. 

First I tried mythtv, and I am sorry, but that is one bloated piece of
shit. I am not setting up my own freaking TV station.

All the other packages I tried, either didn't work, or crashed or
something else.

This sucks big time!

Rico.

PS.: Yeah I know, this is nothing but complaining, but air was needed!


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